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Gramp's shop

30/01/2012 2:17 PM

Sprayers

Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me, but
I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some mold
from a leaky toilet.

My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.

HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this little
project?

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer

TIA

Larry


This topic has 18 replies

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Angela Sekeris

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 2:21 PM

On Jan 30, 3:17=A0pm, Gramp's shop <[email protected]> wrote:
> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me, but
> I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some mold
> from a leaky toilet.
>
> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> drawers from the old one. =A0So I've got some painting to do.
>
> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. =A0Understanding that one always gets
> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this little
> project?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=3Dhvlp+sprayer
>
> TIA
>
> Larry

The job just doesn't sound big enough, to me, to bring out spray
equipment.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 6:40 PM

Gramp's shop wrote:
> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me,
> but I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some
> mold from a leaky toilet.
>
> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
>
> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this
> little project?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer
>
> TIA
>

47016 does work just fine, as long as you are not shooting heavy primer
coats. It gets pretty weak with fill primer coats. What kind of paint are
you thinking of shooting?

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Swingman

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 6:31 PM

On 1/30/2012 5:40 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:

> What kind of paint are
> you thinking of shooting?

LOL ... bought time someone asked the most pertinent question. :)


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"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 3:20 PM

Gramp's shop writes:

> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me,
> but
> I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some mold
> from a leaky toilet.
>
> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
---------------------------------
Couple of rattle cans and your done.

Lew


MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 10:03 PM

Gramp's shop wrote:
> On 1/30/2012 6:31 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/30/2012 5:40 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> What kind of paint are
>>> you thinking of shooting?
>>
>> LOL ... bought time someone asked the most pertinent question. :)
>>
>>
>
> Primer coat plus latex finish coat. Thought about spraying as I don't
> want any brush marks. Maybe a roller is a better approach.

You are looking at all of the wrong guns for latex. In my opinion, latex
should be applied with aged hair from a dead horse. Hell - nothing is going
to make that stuff look good anyway. It won't though, shoot through the
kinds of guns you're looking at. Some here have used other types of HVLP
(turbines) with success, but I'm not the guy to speak to that. Cue
Robert...

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-Mike-
[email protected]

nn

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

01/02/2012 12:21 AM

On Jan 30, 9:03 pm, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > Primer coat plus latex finish coat. Thought about spraying as I don't
> > want any brush marks. Maybe a roller is a better approach.

Then you can get that fine orange peel finish in no time if you get
the wrong roller cover. I use the foam weenie rollers to roll out
latex on beat up doors and the end product is OK, but still has the
orange peel. It will look more uniform as you go, but the more coats
you put on the wood the more plastic and textured it will look.

> You are looking at all of the wrong guns for latex. In my opinion, latex
> should be applied with aged hair from a dead horse. Hell - nothing is going
> to make that stuff look good anyway.

Agree, and agree. I must say though that with some of Sherwin
Williams upper end of enamels they are so forgiving and tighten up so
much that a GOOD brush job will come close to a spray look. Sounds
impossible, but I have done it myself when applying the latex over
primer, on new wood while using a good brush.

> It won't though, shoot through the
> kinds of guns you're looking at. Some here have used other types of HVLP
> (turbines) with success, but I'm not the guy to speak to that.

The guns he is looking at are good for oil based enamels and primers.
I actually have all three sets of those HF guns (hey.. gotta invest to
learn, right !?!) , and have used the crap out of them. However, they
don't offer any other tip than the one on the gun. BYW, those guns
are actually CAS HVLP, not true HVLP.

I have used that $16 gun to spray primers, and it shoots BIN just
fine.
I have used the middle one ($34) and it has a smaller aircap (1.4mm)
It lays down a nice coat of enamels, poly, and lacquer. On a warm
South Texas day, it shoots BIN fine as well.

That $16 gun will shoot latex, but why? Buy the gun with the smaller
aircap and shoot oil based enamel, or one of the high performance
quick dry enamels. To get those guns to shoot *latex* well, you will
need to thin the paint quite a bit. So much so that it will begin to
have the solids desegregate from solution, and will provide and
unstable end product. Overly thinned, it might dry too fast and the
end product would be brittle. Similarly, you can thin enough to ruin
the color saturation as well.

Since you are replicating the cabinet, I assume that you are building
it in your shop and not in place. If that is the case, spray away
with some solvent based enamel. A quart should get you all the
coverage you need and more.

If you were using true HVLP, you could shoot a nice coat of latex with
the proper aircap (1.7 - 2.0 mm) if you had a three or four stage
model. Again, the guns you referenced are fine for their tasks, but
shooting latex might be more fun that you want when using them.

> Cue Robert...

Hey, Mike!

Robert

SB

Steve Barker

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 4:32 PM

On 1/30/2012 4:19 PM, Angela Sekeris wrote:
> On Jan 30, 4:55 pm, Steve Barker<[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 1/30/2012 2:34 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Gramp's shop wrote:
>>>> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me,
>>>> but I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some
>>>> mold from a leaky toilet.
>>
>>>> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
>>>> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
>>
>>>> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
>>>> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
>>>> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this
>>>> little project?
>>
>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer
>>
>>> Can't say for sure but I don't see why not assuming you already have
>>> something to power them. So could rattle cans.
>>
>> or a nice 2" purdy. $17 . done
>>
>> --
>> Steve Barker
>> remove the "not" from my address to email
>
> And you get to keep the Purdy if you clean it like a Purdy should be
> cleaned.

yes, some of mine are over 10yrs old.

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Ll

Leon

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

31/01/2012 7:17 AM

On 1/30/2012 4:21 PM, Angela Sekeris wrote:
> On Jan 30, 3:17 pm, Gramp's shop<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me, but
>> I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some mold
>> from a leaky toilet.
>>
>> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
>> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
>>
>> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
>> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
>> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this little
>> project?
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Larry
>
> The job just doesn't sound big enough, to me, to bring out spray
> equipment.

Totally agree especially if this is the only reason to paint.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

31/01/2012 7:15 AM

On 1/30/2012 2:17 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me, but
> I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some mold
> from a leaky toilet.
>
> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
>
> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this little
> project?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer
>
> TIA
>
> Larry

Since you avoid painting except for this project do you really need a
sprayer for a one time use?


You can get very smooth results using a 1"diameter foam roller with oil
based paints and you get a very smooth finish using a flat pad
applicator with latex paints. Either of which would have to be much
simpler and easier to use that spraying.

Gs

Gramp's shop

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 8:30 PM

On 1/30/2012 6:31 PM, Swingman wrote:
> On 1/30/2012 5:40 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> What kind of paint are
>> you thinking of shooting?
>
> LOL ... bought time someone asked the most pertinent question. :)
>
>

Primer coat plus latex finish coat. Thought about spraying as I don't
want any brush marks. Maybe a roller is a better approach.

SB

Steve Barker

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 3:55 PM

On 1/30/2012 2:34 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Gramp's shop wrote:
>> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me,
>> but I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some
>> mold from a leaky toilet.
>>
>> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
>> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
>>
>> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
>> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
>> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this
>> little project?
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer
>>
>
> Can't say for sure but I don't see why not assuming you already have
> something to power them. So could rattle cans.
>
>

or a nice 2" purdy. $17 . done

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Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 4:57 PM

On Jan 30, 12:17=A0pm, Gramp's shop <[email protected]> wrote:
> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me, but
> I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some mold
> from a leaky toilet.
>
> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> drawers from the old one. =A0So I've got some painting to do.
>
> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. =A0Understanding that one always gets
> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this little
> project?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=3Dhvlp+sprayer
>
> TIA
>
> Larry

Others can cooment but I never had success shooting house paint
(latex) from an HVLP even with the right tip. I know the pros do it
but they have very big CFM machines. Maybe others can comment. I tried
like hell but ended up paying a pro to come paint my builtins.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

31/01/2012 7:23 AM

On 1/30/2012 8:30 PM, Gramp's shop wrote:
> On 1/30/2012 6:31 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/30/2012 5:40 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> What kind of paint are
>>> you thinking of shooting?
>>
>> LOL ... bought time someone asked the most pertinent question. :)
>>
>>
>
> Primer coat plus latex finish coat. Thought about spraying as I don't
> want any brush marks. Maybe a roller is a better approach.

I have done this countless times. If you are using a latex paint use a
flat pad brush. The fibers are about 3/16" long and you might be
shocked as to how well this applies and haw fast it is.

AS

Angela Sekeris

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 2:19 PM

On Jan 30, 4:55=A0pm, Steve Barker <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/30/2012 2:34 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Gramp's shop wrote:
> >> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me,
> >> but I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some
> >> mold from a leaky toilet.
>
> >> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> >> drawers from the old one. =A0So I've got some painting to do.
>
> >> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
> >> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. =A0Understanding that one always ge=
ts
> >> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this
> >> little project?
>
> >>http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=3Dhvlp+sprayer
>
> > Can't say for sure but I don't see why not assuming you already have
> > something to power them. =A0So could rattle cans.
>
> or a nice 2" purdy. =A0$17 . =A0done
>
> --
> Steve Barker
> remove the "not" from my address to email

And you get to keep the Purdy if you clean it like a Purdy should be
cleaned.

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 6:04 PM

Gramp's shop wrote:
> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me, but
> I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some mold
> from a leaky toilet.
>
> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
>
> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this little
> project?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer
>
> TIA
>
> Larry

I have one of those, but my favorite is the one with its own blower
and a 1 !/4" hose. Sounds like a vacuum cleaner but it works for me.

--
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Don't be irreplaceable. If you can't
be replaced you can't be promoted.





dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 3:34 PM

Gramp's shop wrote:
> Putting paint on anything that comes out of my shop is heresy to me,
> but I need to replace a bathroom vanity which managed to catch some
> mold from a leaky toilet.
>
> My plan is to replicate the existing vanity and use the doors and
> drawers from the old one. So I've got some painting to do.
>
> HF's latest sale flyer is on my desk and they have a couple of HVLP
> sprayers on the cheap side of $40. Understanding that one always gets
> what one pays for, can one of these cheapies get me through this
> little project?
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=hvlp+sprayer
>

Can't say for sure but I don't see why not assuming you already have
something to power them. So could rattle cans.


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"Artemus"

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

30/01/2012 6:57 PM


"Gramp's shop" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 1/30/2012 6:31 PM, Swingman wrote:
>> On 1/30/2012 5:40 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> What kind of paint are
>>> you thinking of shooting?
>>
>> LOL ... bought time someone asked the most pertinent question. :)
>>
>>
>
> Primer coat plus latex finish coat. Thought about spraying as I don't want any
> brush marks. Maybe a roller is a better approach.

A cheap HVLP isn't going to spray latex. A fine knap roller worked
well for me on a cabinet for the wife. I have also used a paint pad with
good success with latex. Neither way will give you a mirror finish.
Art

cc

chaniarts

in reply to Gramp's shop on 30/01/2012 2:17 PM

31/01/2012 7:24 AM

On 1/30/2012 7:57 PM, Artemus wrote:
> "Gramp's shop"<[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 1/30/2012 6:31 PM, Swingman wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2012 5:40 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>
>>>> What kind of paint are
>>>> you thinking of shooting?
>>>
>>> LOL ... bought time someone asked the most pertinent question. :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Primer coat plus latex finish coat. Thought about spraying as I don't want any
>> brush marks. Maybe a roller is a better approach.
>
> A cheap HVLP isn't going to spray latex. A fine knap roller worked
> well for me on a cabinet for the wife. I have also used a paint pad with
> good success with latex. Neither way will give you a mirror finish.
> Art
>
>

i have the ones on the left of the page. the instructions state they
won't shoot latex. about the thickest they will shoot is varnish.


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