"Han" wrote:
> I have no idea what force the oil coming up through 12000 ft of rock
> is
> exerting. I wouldn't like risking have that force lift the whole
> assembly off whatever keeps it attached to the pipe inside that
> "shaft".
-----------------------------
Need to go back and review the presentation again.
The issue is specifically addressed.
Lew
"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>
>> This will work.
>>
>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>
>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>
>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>> control.
>>
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>
>>
>
> Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
I have no idea what force the oil coming up through 12000 ft of rock is
exerting. I wouldn't like risking have that force lift the whole
assembly off whatever keeps it attached to the pipe inside that "shaft".
--
Best regards
Han
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>
>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>
>> Screws loose?
>
>
>At depths exceeding a mile.
Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
worked at at least 2 miles.
On Jun 14, 2:31=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>
> >>>>>>> This will work.
>
> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>
> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>
> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
> >>>>>>> control.
>
> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>
> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>
> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>
> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>
> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>
> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>
> >>> Screws loose?
>
> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>
> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>
> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
> depth.
All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
>>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>
>>> Screws loose?
>>
>>
>>At depths exceeding a mile.
>
>Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
>worked at at least 2 miles.
Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
depth.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Best idea I've seen yet.
>
> This will work.
>
> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>
> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>
> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under control.
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lew Hodgett, PE
>
>
Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:56:37 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>>> >>>>>>> control.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show
>>>> >>>>> them
>>>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>>
>>>> >>> Screws loose?
>>>>
>>>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>>>
>>>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
>>>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>>>> depth.
>>>
>>>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
>>
>> Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
>>
>> Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
>> rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
>> going on.
>>
>
>You think they are somehow faking the live video of the well?
You are not seeing everything.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:56:37 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation
>>>>> >>>>>>> under
>>>>> >>>>>>> control.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show
>>>>> >>>>> them
>>>>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Screws loose?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>>>>
>>>>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron
>>>>> >has
>>>>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>>>>> depth.
>>>>
>>>>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
>>>
>>> Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
>>> rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
>>> going on.
>>>
>>
>>You think they are somehow faking the live video of the well?
>
> You are not seeing everything.
>
And you are?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>
>>> This will work.
>>>
>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>
>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>
>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>> control.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>
> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>
Tightening nuts and bolts?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>>>> control.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>
>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>
>>
>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>
> Screws loose?
At depths exceeding a mile.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
>>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>
>>> Screws loose?
>>
>>
>>At depths exceeding a mile.
>
> Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
> worked at at least 2 miles.
>
Tightening nuts and bolts?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
>>>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>>
>>>> Screws loose?
>>>
>>>
>>>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>
>>Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
>>worked at at least 2 miles.
>
> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
> depth.
>
And?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
>
>> Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
> ------------------------
> The same way they did the first time.
>
> The under sea robots.
>
> Lew
>
>
So, remotely operated. What about visibility?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>> >>>>>>> control.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>
>>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>
>>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show
>>> >>>>> them
>>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>
>>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>
>>> >>> Screws loose?
>>>
>>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>>
>>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
>>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>>
>>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>>> depth.
>>
>>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
>
> Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
>
> Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
> rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
> going on.
>
You think they are somehow faking the live video of the well?
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Lobby Dosser" wrote:
>
>> So, remotely operated. What about visibility?
> -----------------------------------
> What about it?
>
> Lew
>
>
If it's not good - and it doesn't seem to be - then it would seem to be much
more difficult to get ROVs to manipulate nuts and bolts.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:38:05 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Lobby Dosser" wrote:
>>
>>> So, remotely operated. What about visibility?
>>-----------------------------------
>>What about it?
>>
>>Lew
>>
>
> Lobby has limited vision...
And you have what?
"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation
>>>> >>>>>>> under
>>>> >>>>>>> control.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show
>>>> >>>>> them
>>>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>
>>>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>>
>>>> >>> Screws loose?
>>>>
>>>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>>>
>>>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
>>>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>>>> depth.
>>>
>>>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
>>
>> Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
>>
>> Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
>> rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
>> going on.
BTW, what's stopping Cameron from just doing what he thinks he can do? Last
I heard he was going to "forward a number of reports to appropriate
government agencies". Has he done that part yet?
>>
>
> You think they are somehow faking the live video of the well?
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>
>>>> This will work.
>>>>
>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>
>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>
>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>>>> control.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>
>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>
>
>Tightening nuts and bolts?
Screws loose?
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:14:03 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:46:35 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>>>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> under
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show
>>>>>>> >>>>> them
>>>>>>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Screws loose?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron
>>>>>>> >has
>>>>>>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>>>>>>> depth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
>>>>>
>>>>> Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
>>>>> rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
>>>>> going on.
>>>
>>>BTW, what's stopping Cameron from just doing what he thinks he can do?
>>
>> He lacks the authority to take over the operation. BP has legal
>> paperwork giving THEM complete control. The president of the US
>> apparently doesn't think even he has the authority to place observers
>> or advisors on site without BP's permission.
>>
>
>I can see where BP maintains control, but can't see how they can stop an
>observer. The lease documents would have to specify complete control over a
>large area of the sea surrounding the well. Even then wouldn't the
>government maintain 'inspection' rights?
Get serious. The government is essentially powerless to order BP to do
anything. They can only negotiate and try to use pressure to get them
to do ANYTHING. And, no, outside observers are not allowed anywhere
near the site without permission from BP.
They are in complete control of the site.
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>
>> This will work.
>>
>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>
>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>
>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under control.
>>
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>
>>
>
>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:46:35 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation
>>>>>> >>>>>>> under
>>>>>> >>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show
>>>>>> >>>>> them
>>>>>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> Screws loose?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron
>>>>>> >has
>>>>>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>>>>>> depth.
>>>>>
>>>>>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
>>>>
>>>> Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
>>>> rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
>>>> going on.
>>
>>BTW, what's stopping Cameron from just doing what he thinks he can do?
>
> He lacks the authority to take over the operation. BP has legal
> paperwork giving THEM complete control. The president of the US
> apparently doesn't think even he has the authority to place observers
> or advisors on site without BP's permission.
>
I can see where BP maintains control, but can't see how they can stop an
observer. The lease documents would have to specify complete control over a
large area of the sea surrounding the well. Even then wouldn't the
government maintain 'inspection' rights?
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:46:35 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> >>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation
>>>>> >>>>>>> under
>>>>> >>>>>>> control.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show
>>>>> >>>>> them
>>>>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Screws loose?
>>>>>
>>>>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>>>>
>>>>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
>>>>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>>>>> depth.
>>>>
>>>>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
>>>
>>> Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
>>> rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
>>> going on.
>
>BTW, what's stopping Cameron from just doing what he thinks he can do?
He lacks the authority to take over the operation. BP has legal
paperwork giving THEM complete control. The president of the US
apparently doesn't think even he has the authority to place observers
or advisors on site without BP's permission.
"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I've been waiting for someone to do things right and snip previous posts but
I guess I have to do it myself.
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:19:54 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jun 14, 2:31 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:23:45 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>> >On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:21:36 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> ><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>news:[email protected]...
>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:15:52 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:[email protected]...
>> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:27:09 -0700, "Lobby Dosser"
>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>news:[email protected]...
>> >>>>>>> Best idea I've seen yet.
>>
>> >>>>>>> This will work.
>>
>> >>>>>>> Needs some help getting an audience with the right people.
>>
>> >>>>>>> Your help appreciated to help spread the word.
>>
>> >>>>>>> I have no vested interest other than to get this situation under
>> >>>>>>> control.
>>
>> >>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/28jaw6n
>>
>> >>>>>>> Thank you.
>>
>> >>>>>>> Lew Hodgett, PE
>>
>> >>>>>>Any idea how they tighten all the nuts and bolts?
>>
>> >>>>> I'm quite sure that James Cameron or Robert Ballard could show them
>> >>>>> how THEY did this sort of thing at more than twice the depth.
>>
>> >>>>Tightening nuts and bolts?
>>
>> >>> Screws loose?
>>
>> >>At depths exceeding a mile.
>>
>> >Ballard has done extensive work at three times that depth. Cameron has
>> >worked at at least 2 miles.
>>
>> Oh, and there are MANNED submersibles that can work at almost 4 miles
>> depth.
>
>All you need now is a skilled, volunteer crew.
Volunteer? Do you think BP is made up of volunteers?
Meanwhile, Cameron already offered HIS services to help, and was
rebuffed by BP, who doesn't want any outsiders to see what is really
going on.
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:38:05 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Lobby Dosser" wrote:
>
>> So, remotely operated. What about visibility?
>-----------------------------------
>What about it?
>
>Lew
>
Lobby has limited vision...