I'm re-posting this under a different header with the hopes that someone
will have a definitive answer...> >>I am trying to remove a 1/4 bit from my
router; I removed the collet nut
> >>but the insert with the bit won't come out from the sleeve, it seems to
be
> >>stuck. Any suggestions ?
I read this with interest... What type of collet nut / system does this
router use? The systems I sell ahve ER8,11,16,20 and 25 style collets and
nuts. All except for teh "low profile" ER8 have collet nuts that pull the
collet out when loostened via a "lip" inside the collet nut and a "ring"
around teh top of teh collet itself. Are these useable on routers to avoid
the problem going forward?
Check out the following URL for a picture of a collet nut like I describe:
http://www.centaurtools.com/collets101/
These are NOT the brand I use but their page shows the procedure for
inserting the collet about 3/4 of the way down. If you look closely, you
can see that the collet gets pulled out of teh spindle when teh nut is
loostened.
We use them on multi spindle drill heads rather than routers, but I know
they are used elsewhere too... Maybe you can get a nut to fit your spindle
and not have to deal with this any longer?
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> My old Bosch 1611 does this all the time.
> I learned to loosen the collet nut enough that it is loose. Then I take
the
> wrench and lightly tap "the nut" until the insert pops loose. Be careful
> not to hit the bit. The vibrations will set the bit free.
That's what a bunch of people are suggesting. I'm just curious if a $25
collet nut and special colets that lock together and "pull" off would be
possible on your and other's threads if justifiable cost wise...
Techniks sells 'em, if the thread puitch was the same, it should work.
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> The toolless collets? I have heard that they take up a lot of room
> decreasing your depth travel and often vibrate too much.
Not sure if these (toolless collets) are the same items we use as I'm not
familiar with anything other than ER style... I doubt it though. Ours have
a .001 runout at 4000 rpm in most cases... Plus, you need tools for ours.
<grin> See them here and let me know if they are the same as what you are
thinking:
http://www.multispindle-drill-heads.com/ms4.jpg shows the normal ER style
nuts.
http://www.multispindle-drill-heads.com/ has low profile ones on adjustable
heads for closer C-C distances... But not really close enough to see IMHO.
If the thread on these nuts is the same (and the angle is the same as
someone else mentioned) then you could simply buy the nuts and collets to
work together and never have a stuck tool or collet again. the only problem
I see is the fact that you need to hold the spindle when removing any nut -
but I think you probably have to do that with the current nuts, right?
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"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm re-posting this under a different header with the hopes that someone
> will have a definitive answer...> >>I am trying to remove a 1/4 bit from my
> router; I removed the collet nut
> > >>but the insert with the bit won't come out from the sleeve, it seems to
> be
> > >>stuck. Any suggestions ?
>
> I read this with interest... What type of collet nut / system does this
> router use? The systems I sell ahve ER8,11,16,20 and 25 style collets and
> nuts. All except for teh "low profile" ER8 have collet nuts that pull the
> collet out when loostened via a "lip" inside the collet nut and a "ring"
> around teh top of teh collet itself. Are these useable on routers to avoid
> the problem going forward?
>
> Check out the following URL for a picture of a collet nut like I describe:
>
> http://www.centaurtools.com/collets101/
>
> These are NOT the brand I use but their page shows the procedure for
> inserting the collet about 3/4 of the way down. If you look closely, you
> can see that the collet gets pulled out of teh spindle when teh nut is
> loostened.
>
> We use them on multi spindle drill heads rather than routers, but I know
> they are used elsewhere too... Maybe you can get a nut to fit your spindle
> and not have to deal with this any longer?
>
> Joe - V#8013 - '86 VN750 - joe @ yunx .com
> Northern, NJ
> Ride a Motorcycle? Ask me about "The Ride"
> http://www.youthelate.com/the_ride.htm
>
> Born once - Die twice. Born twice - Die only once. Your choice...
>
> Have unwanted music CDs or DVDs of any type? I can use them for our
> charity. eMail me privately for details. Donation receipts available.
Take a piece of wood and tap the bit straight down, this loosens the
shaft of the bit. You can pull the bit out now with your fingers,
don't cut yourself.This is a commom problem on PC laminate trimmers
and some routers.
mike
Leon, he's talking about ER collets. They are great, I use them on milling
machines all the time. The router has to be made for them, however, and I
doubt that any model would fit.
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >> My old Bosch 1611 does this all the time.
> >> I learned to loosen the collet nut enough that it is loose. Then I
take
> > the
> >> wrench and lightly tap "the nut" until the insert pops loose. Be
careful
> >> not to hit the bit. The vibrations will set the bit free.
> >
> > That's what a bunch of people are suggesting. I'm just curious if a $25
> > collet nut and special colets that lock together and "pull" off would be
> > possible on your and other's threads if justifiable cost wise...
> >
> > Techniks sells 'em, if the thread puitch was the same, it should work.
>
> The toolless collets? I have heard that they take up a lot of room
> decreasing your depth travel and often vibrate too much.
>
>
My old Bosch 1611 does this all the time.
I learned to loosen the collet nut enough that it is loose. Then I take the
wrench and lightly tap "the nut" until the insert pops loose. Be careful
not to hit the bit. The vibrations will set the bit free.
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm re-posting this under a different header with the hopes that someone
> will have a definitive answer...> >>I am trying to remove a 1/4 bit from
> my
> router; I removed the collet nut
>> >>but the insert with the bit won't come out from the sleeve, it seems to
> be
>> >>stuck. Any suggestions ?
>
> I read this with interest... What type of collet nut / system does this
> router use? The systems I sell ahve ER8,11,16,20 and 25 style collets and
> nuts. All except for teh "low profile" ER8 have collet nuts that pull the
> collet out when loostened via a "lip" inside the collet nut and a "ring"
> around teh top of teh collet itself. Are these useable on routers to
> avoid
> the problem going forward?
>
> Check out the following URL for a picture of a collet nut like I describe:
>
> http://www.centaurtools.com/collets101/
>
> These are NOT the brand I use but their page shows the procedure for
> inserting the collet about 3/4 of the way down. If you look closely, you
> can see that the collet gets pulled out of teh spindle when teh nut is
> loostened.
>
> We use them on multi spindle drill heads rather than routers, but I know
> they are used elsewhere too... Maybe you can get a nut to fit your
> spindle
> and not have to deal with this any longer?
>
> Joe - V#8013 - '86 VN750 - joe @ yunx .com
> Northern, NJ
> Ride a Motorcycle? Ask me about "The Ride"
> http://www.youthelate.com/the_ride.htm
>
> Born once - Die twice. Born twice - Die only once. Your choice...
>
> Have unwanted music CDs or DVDs of any type? I can use them for our
> charity. eMail me privately for details. Donation receipts available.
>
>
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> My old Bosch 1611 does this all the time.
>> I learned to loosen the collet nut enough that it is loose. Then I take
> the
>> wrench and lightly tap "the nut" until the insert pops loose. Be careful
>> not to hit the bit. The vibrations will set the bit free.
>
> That's what a bunch of people are suggesting. I'm just curious if a $25
> collet nut and special colets that lock together and "pull" off would be
> possible on your and other's threads if justifiable cost wise...
>
> Techniks sells 'em, if the thread puitch was the same, it should work.
The toolless collets? I have heard that they take up a lot of room
decreasing your depth travel and often vibrate too much.
There"s a lot more involved than just a nut that fits. ft has to have the
right taper to fit the collet. Probably not.
"Joe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > My old Bosch 1611 does this all the time.
> > I learned to loosen the collet nut enough that it is loose. Then I take
> the
> > wrench and lightly tap "the nut" until the insert pops loose. Be
careful
> > not to hit the bit. The vibrations will set the bit free.
>
> That's what a bunch of people are suggesting. I'm just curious if a $25
> collet nut and special colets that lock together and "pull" off would be
> possible on your and other's threads if justifiable cost wise...
>
> Techniks sells 'em, if the thread puitch was the same, it should work.
> --
>
>
> Joe - V#8013 - '86 VN750 - joe @ yunx .com
> Northern, NJ
> Ride a Motorcycle? Ask me about "The Ride"
> http://www.youthelate.com/the_ride.htm
>
> Born once - Die twice. Born twice - Die only once. Your choice...
>
> Have unwanted music CDs or DVDs of any type? I can use them for our
> charity. eMail me privately for details. Donation receipts available.
>
>
>