We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
(probably one of the kids.) :{
What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
(kinda impolite)?
On 28-May-2005, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's really a
> stretch to consider someone inconsiderate for using an object such as a
> table for exactly the purpose it was intended, and in fact in exactly the
> way that most tables are used.
this is a good point. I had envisioned for the original post that this
table was sort of set aside on display and that the guests were told "this
is my newest piece etc." If the table was simply incorporated into the
overall house furniture then true you can't really blame guests for putting
their drinks on it.
Ah children, there's a reason they're so cute...........It helps with
their survival. :-)
The glasses that the poster was thinking of earlier in the thread may
be Tervis Tumblers. (based out of Flordia I think) Really nice heavy
duty plastic glasses that don't sweat and look good. (no I don't work
for them) They come in a bunch of sizes and styles and are garaunteed
for life. (they back up that too, I've returned a few that the seal
went out of)
I think you're best option is the glass top, it's not too expensive
considering the time you put into the piece and it's pretty much fool
proof.........Though the quickest way to make a fool think is make it
proof against their last attack. :-)
Good luck!!!
In article <[email protected]>,
CrackedHands <[email protected]> wrote:
>We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
>to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
>shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
>(probably one of the kids.) :{
>
>What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
>of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
>and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
>(kinda impolite)?
>
Glass top. or 'table pad'. Prevents recurrances.
In article <[email protected]>,
mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:52:11 -0700, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 May 2005 13:47:19 -0700, the inscrutable [email protected]
>>spake:
>>
>>>On 27 May 2005 11:54:51 -0700, "CrackedHands" <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks, it was shallac. But my real point is, what would be a socially
>>>>acceptable way to prevent people from being careless on your "proud
>>>>pieice of art"?
>>>>
>>>>(Sorry if this is not directly related to the WW topic. But I guess
>>>>it's a problem that many of WWreckers might be facing.)
>>>
>>>
>>>100 years ago shellac was the predominant furniture finish. everyone
>>>knew how to treat it, even people who couldn't afford any. today
>>>laquer and poly have largely squeezed shellac out. if you want your
>>>shellac surfaces to be treated properly you'll have to educate your
>>>guests.
>>
>>Right. Print out copies of the rules & gather everyone around. Now
>>hand 'em to everyone, making sure they read 'em BEFORE they get their
>>drinks. Keep a wooden yardstick handy for those who choose to forget.
>>"KAWHAP!" is a sound (and feel) the guests won't soon forget. ;)
>
>but they'll have nightmares of nuns in Catholic school.. lol
One very effective way to maintain discipline -- "force of _habit_"
How 'bout having a piece of glass made to fit the top? At least for
use during those party occassions.
Renata
On Sat, 28 May 2005 11:35:25 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>CrackedHands wrote:
>
>> Thanks, it was shallac. But my real point is, what would be a socially
>> acceptable way to prevent people from being careless on your "proud
>> pieice of art"?
>>
>> (Sorry if this is not directly related to the WW topic. But I guess
>> it's a problem that many of WWreckers might be facing.)
>
>People who know you well you should be able to teach that the finish is
>delicate and needs a certain amount of babying. Kids and relative
>strangers may be a different story.
>
>If this is something that is going to be used regularly instead of just
>looked at you might want to consider redoing the top in polyurethane or
>lacquer or varnish or something else that doesn't make white rings when it
>gets wet. There are those who cringe at the thought of this, but to me
>there are two kinds of furniture--museum pieces and pieces that are to be
>used. And for those that are used (at least by us ordinary folk who don't
>have dozens of spare rooms to fill with art) certain concessions of
>artistic purity should be made in the interest of utility.
>
"CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
> of cancelling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
> and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
> (kinda impolite)?
Depends on what they're drinking. If it's beer, then you can serve them in
those foam cooler wraps. I think there might be some higher end plastic
glasses around that don't sweat the way ordinary glass does, but I don't
remember where I've seen them. Only other solution is to place a waterproof
cover on the table. There's some really good looking ones available if you
go that route, but then it won't be as easy to show off your new project.
In article <[email protected]>,
CrackedHands <[email protected]> wrote:
>We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
>to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
>shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
>(probably one of the kids.) :{
>
>What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
>of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
>and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
>(kinda impolite)?
>
Use a table cloth?
--
Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland
[email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:RTLle.406$rp.110@fed1read02...
> for those of us that try to be considerate the inconsiderate are just
> maddening.
>
> I think the best thing to do is just sigh and be glad that you are not the
> type of person that would put an unprotected drink on someone's new piece
of
> painstakingly handcrafted furniture and call it good. Then again perhaps
a
> tablecloth or something to protect your better pieces when kids are
visiting
> isn't such a bad idea.
Some may be inconsiderate, but I believe most just don't know any better. I
think the responsiblity lies with the host. Provide plenty of coasters,
placed where people are most likely to put their drinks. It's really a
stretch to consider someone inconsiderate for using an object such as a
table for exactly the purpose it was intended, and in fact in exactly the
way that most tables are used. The problem is with the finish selected and
its inablity to stand up to normal uses. Can't really fault the
unsuspecting guest for not being as well informed about these things as the
hobbiest woodworker.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
You could try putting it behind a velvet rope so that it can be admired at a
safe distance.
SteveP.
"CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
> to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
> shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
> (probably one of the kids.) :{
>
> What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
> of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
> and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
> (kinda impolite)?
>
> Several years ago, I had just finished a coffee table for the living
> room -
> butternut oval with two leaves and a shellac finish.
I love butternut, but it is largely ornamental; you can't actually put
anything on it!
In fact, I just made someone a butternut buffet; and warned her I wasn't
responsible if she put anything heavier than a picture frame on it.
Has anyone tried putting epoxy wood hardener on butternut?
for those of us that try to be considerate the inconsiderate are just
maddening.
I think the best thing to do is just sigh and be glad that you are not the
type of person that would put an unprotected drink on someone's new piece of
painstakingly handcrafted furniture and call it good. Then again perhaps a
tablecloth or something to protect your better pieces when kids are visiting
isn't such a bad idea.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Another alternative is the Nissan Thermos JCE350, which has the advantage
> that (a) it keeps cold drinks cold, (b) it keeps hot drinks hot,
Like hell it does. I put my hot coffee in there one morning, then some
cold soda on top for a break later in the day. When I opened it an hour
later, they were both about room temperature. And the layers got mixed too.
Cover it with an olive drap tarp.
"CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks, it was shallac. But my real point is, what would be a socially
> acceptable way to prevent people from being careless on your "proud
> pieice of art"?
>
> (Sorry if this is not directly related to the WW topic. But I guess
> it's a problem that many of WWreckers might be facing.)
>
On 28-May-2005, "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > fine. i imagine that there is some piece of technology available that
> > will
> > protect this gentleman's table's shellac finish from sweating glasses.
> > Perhaphs he could avail himself of that.
>
> ... and you are replying to... exactly who?
to the poster that remarked that a tablecloth wouldn't protect the shellac
finish.
On Tue, 31 May 2005 18:49:07 -0000, the inscrutable
[email protected] (Robert Bonomi) spake:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>mac davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:52:11 -0700, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
>>wrote:
>
>>>Right. Print out copies of the rules & gather everyone around. Now
>>>hand 'em to everyone, making sure they read 'em BEFORE they get their
>>>drinks. Keep a wooden yardstick handy for those who choose to forget.
>>>"KAWHAP!" is a sound (and feel) the guests won't soon forget. ;)
>>
>>but they'll have nightmares of nuns in Catholic school.. lol
>
>One very effective way to maintain discipline -- "force of _habit_"
And if that one fails, too, resort to the 100kv stun gun.
"Say, isn't that your glass?"
"Why, yes, it is. Sorry."
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZap! "Yieeeeeeeeeeee!" <thud>
"Yeah, I'll bet you are...when you wake up."
I'll give odds that's -the- last white ring on THAT guy's table.
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:24:38 GMT, the inscrutable Patrick Conroy
<[email protected]> spake:
>"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>>
>> (a) it keeps cold drinks cold, (b) it keeps hot drinks hot
>
>Wasn't that a Steven Wright joke:
>
>"How does it know?"
<g>
I love that guy. Here is a page of his best stuff:
http://meer.net/~mtoy/steven_wright.html
--
"Not always right, but never uncertain." --Heinlein
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:UYVle.504$rp.332@fed1read02...
> fine. i imagine that there is some piece of technology available that will
> protect this gentleman's table's shellac finish from sweating glasses.
> Perhaphs he could avail himself of that.
... and you are replying to... exactly who?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
"CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
> to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
> shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
> (probably one of the kids.) :{
>
> What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
> of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
> and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
> (kinda impolite)?
Put the table behind a velvet rope like they have in museums. If you have no
velvet ropes consider not serving drinks.
-j
CrackedHands wrote:
> Thanks, it was shallac. But my real point is, what would be a socially
> acceptable way to prevent people from being careless on your "proud
> pieice of art"?
>
> (Sorry if this is not directly related to the WW topic. But I guess
> it's a problem that many of WWreckers might be facing.)
People who know you well you should be able to teach that the finish is
delicate and needs a certain amount of babying. Kids and relative
strangers may be a different story.
If this is something that is going to be used regularly instead of just
looked at you might want to consider redoing the top in polyurethane or
lacquer or varnish or something else that doesn't make white rings when it
gets wet. There are those who cringe at the thought of this, but to me
there are two kinds of furniture--museum pieces and pieces that are to be
used. And for those that are used (at least by us ordinary folk who don't
have dozens of spare rooms to fill with art) certain concessions of
artistic purity should be made in the interest of utility.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
[email protected] wrote:
> fine. i imagine that there is some piece of technology available that will
> protect this gentleman's table's shellac finish from sweating glasses.
> Perhaphs he could avail himself of that.
There is--it's called a "coaster" and he's already ruled that out.
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
bremen68 wrote:
> Ah children, there's a reason they're so cute...........It helps with
> their survival. :-)
>
> The glasses that the poster was thinking of earlier in the thread may
> be Tervis Tumblers. (based out of Flordia I think) Really nice heavy
> duty plastic glasses that don't sweat and look good. (no I don't work
> for them) They come in a bunch of sizes and styles and are garaunteed
> for life. (they back up that too, I've returned a few that the seal
> went out of)
>
Another alternative is the Nissan Thermos JCE350, which has the advantage
that (a) it keeps cold drinks cold, (b) it keeps hot drinks hot, (c) drips
get caught before the get to the table, and (d) if you pull the glass liner
out the stainless steel insulator is an exact fit on a standard 12-ounce
soda or beer can.
There's also a JCA350 that has a commuter-mug top instead of the glass
liner--otherwise they are the same. Note one is JC_E_, the other is JC_A_.
Very, very nice, and really works--a can of soda will stay cold for hours.
> I think you're best option is the glass top, it's not too expensive
> considering the time you put into the piece and it's pretty much fool
> proof.........Though the quickest way to make a fool think is make it
> proof against their last attack. :-)
> Good luck!!!
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Easy fix.
Glue coasters to the bottom of ALL your glasses. Takes getting use to, but
it works.
"CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
> to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
> shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
> (probably one of the kids.) :{
>
> What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
> of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
> and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
> (kinda impolite)?
>
On 27 May 2005 11:44:38 -0700, "CrackedHands" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
>to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
>shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
>(probably one of the kids.) :{
>
>What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
>of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
>and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
>(kinda impolite)?
I saw some "table runners" at the store yesterday that had some sort
of plastic-type coating on the underside. The visible side was nicely
woven, and came in several colors/prints. They didn't cover the whole
table, just a good portion of the center- but they looked nice, and
something like that would reduce the chances of the finish getting
damaged while still allowing people to see at least some of the
project. You can't protect it from everything that way, but it skews
the odds in your favor a little.
You could also get a sheet of plate glass to lay over the top. Easy
to clean, and completely waterproof. Last one I saw was about $60,
but that'll vary depending on how thick the glass is, what the
dimentions of the top are, and whether or not the glass is beveled. I
believe standard practice when doing this is to place some small
spacers between the table and the glass (felt is what I've seen most
often, but suction cups get used a lot for this as well.)
On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:52:11 -0700, Larry Jaques <novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com>
wrote:
>On Fri, 27 May 2005 13:47:19 -0700, the inscrutable [email protected]
>spake:
>
>>On 27 May 2005 11:54:51 -0700, "CrackedHands" <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks, it was shallac. But my real point is, what would be a socially
>>>acceptable way to prevent people from being careless on your "proud
>>>pieice of art"?
>>>
>>>(Sorry if this is not directly related to the WW topic. But I guess
>>>it's a problem that many of WWreckers might be facing.)
>>
>>
>>100 years ago shellac was the predominant furniture finish. everyone
>>knew how to treat it, even people who couldn't afford any. today
>>laquer and poly have largely squeezed shellac out. if you want your
>>shellac surfaces to be treated properly you'll have to educate your
>>guests.
>
>Right. Print out copies of the rules & gather everyone around. Now
>hand 'em to everyone, making sure they read 'em BEFORE they get their
>drinks. Keep a wooden yardstick handy for those who choose to forget.
>"KAWHAP!" is a sound (and feel) the guests won't soon forget. ;)
but they'll have nightmares of nuns in Catholic school.. lol
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
Oops. NOw if I had read just ONE more article in the thread, I'd a
seen that my suggestion was a rerun.
Terribly apologetic an' all.
R
On Fri, 27 May 2005 18:57:51 -0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>CrackedHands <[email protected]> wrote:
>>We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
>>to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
>>shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
>>(probably one of the kids.) :{
>>
>>What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
>>of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
>>and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
>>(kinda impolite)?
>>
>
>Glass top. or 'table pad'. Prevents recurrances.
"CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
> to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
> shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
> (probably one of the kids.) :{
>
> What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
> of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
> and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
> (kinda impolite)?
You can own your furniture, or it can own you.
Forget about trying to educate everyone. You might get through to some,
but you definitely won't get through to others. After you're dead you won't
get through to anyone. Your work of art will be forever vulnerable.
The first pepper mill I ever made took me forever. (Okay, two weeks.)
I did a pretty good job and put a nice finish on it. I have a wife and two
children, and fifteen years later I still can't get them to wash and dry
their hands before using it. I've scraped all sorts of dried food bits off
it over the years, but I'm not going to hide it away. I made it because I
wanted fresh ground pepper. I decided that if it gets too ruined that I
can't stand it any more, I'll make another one, and it'll be even better. I
thought about making one for each person, but I just know that won't work
out.
It's a shame there's a mark on your project so soon after you made it.
Entropy is unstoppable. The best you can hope to do is exert some
influence. I look at the underside of my crappy tables (where all the
scribbling is) and know that these things are going to happen no matter what
I do.
Sorry, I don't have any good advice for you. All I can do is
sympathize.
- Owen -
On Sat, 28 May 2005 12:13:05 -0700, nospambob <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Have read several reports of plastic reacting with topcoats. Believe
>Jeff Jewitt calls it "plasticizing". Search
>www.homesteadfinishing.com for that word or plastic.
Could've been vinyl, or even some kind of rayon. I imagine the OP
would have to check the materials for possible reactions based on what
the particular product in his area is made from.
>>I saw some "table runners" at the store yesterday that had some sort
>>of plastic-type coating on the underside.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> (a) it keeps cold drinks cold, (b) it keeps hot drinks hot
Wasn't that a Steven Wright joke:
"How does it know?"
Have read several reports of plastic reacting with topcoats. Believe
Jeff Jewitt calls it "plasticizing". Search
www.homesteadfinishing.com for that word or plastic.
On Sat, 28 May 2005 06:34:57 -0500, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I saw some "table runners" at the store yesterday that had some sort
>of plastic-type coating on the underside.
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 18:21:04 -0700, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>I love that guy. Here is a page of his best stuff:
>http://meer.net/~mtoy/steven_wright.html
When I lived in Manhattan during the Eighties, I spent some time going
out with his old girl friend.
One night he showed up while we were having dinner.
He wasn't funny.
I was tempted to say to him:
"You can't have everything, where would you keep it?"
I restrained myself.
Tom Watson - WoodDorker
tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1/ (website)
Several years ago, I had just finished a coffee table for the living room -
butternut oval with two leaves and a shellac finish. About two weeks later,
we had people in after a charity auction to add up the proceeds. One of
them, a gentleman who certainly knew better, put a clunky old adding machine
on the table. I swept in and placed a towel under the machine but the
damage had already been done by a foot that had lost its pad. He instantly
appologized profusely. I am not sure I did the right thing but I just
could not bear to see the table ruined. Of course by now it has scratches
from the cat, mother in law's ankle cast and who knows what else. Maybe the
lesson is that furnature is to be used, even if we try for the perfect
finish.....
Dave
Owen Lawrence wrote:
> Sorry, I don't have any good advice for you. All I can do is
> sympathize.
As do I. This is why I love workjing with oak and finishing with polyurethane.
The yellowing doesn't matter and after a few coats of poly, the wet glasses
don't either. The furniture becomes bulletproof against drink rings. I never
sweat somebody putting a glass down; pardon the pun.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
[email protected]
On Fri, 27 May 2005 11:44:38 -0700, CrackedHands wrote:
> We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week to
> "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was shocked
> to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!! (probably one of
> the kids.) :{
>
> What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short of
> canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around and
> put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink (kinda
> impolite)?
Put 7' legs on it.
A tablecloth will not protect the shellac from a sweating glass.
Dave
[email protected] wrote:
Then again perhaps a
> tablecloth or something to protect your better pieces when kids are visiting
> isn't such a bad idea.
Poly goes over shellac if it's dewaxed. It's impossible to keep people
at a party from placing drinks on a table, at some point.
Try removing the ring with a tiny bit of alcohol on a rag wiped around
and around the ring. Don't saturate the cloth and don't let the cloth
sit in one spot. The idea is to create a fast dissipating "vapor trail"
of alcohol, barely more than fumes.
Dave
SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> Education might be in order but, kids and fine furniture are never a
> great mix.
>
> I'll bet you never thought you'd be one of those uptight people running
> around putting coasters under everyones drink.
>
On 27 May 2005 11:44:38 -0700, "CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote:
>We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
>to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
>shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
>(probably one of the kids.) :{
>
>What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
>of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
>and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
>(kinda impolite)?
razor wire and claymores???
Assuming that the un-named project wan't your bar or something, I don't see a
problem with roping it off and asking folks not to touch the "piece"..
IMHO, if they can't appreciate WHY you don't want it touched, they shouldn't be
invited to a party to celebrate it.. it's wasted on them..
mac
Please remove splinters before emailing
On 27 May 2005 11:54:51 -0700, "CrackedHands" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Thanks, it was shallac. But my real point is, what would be a socially
>acceptable way to prevent people from being careless on your "proud
>pieice of art"?
>
>(Sorry if this is not directly related to the WW topic. But I guess
>it's a problem that many of WWreckers might be facing.)
100 years ago shellac was the predominant furniture finish. everyone
knew how to treat it, even people who couldn't afford any. today
laquer and poly have largely squeezed shellac out. if you want your
shellac surfaces to be treated properly you'll have to educate your
guests.
You've got it. Polyurethane was invented for a reason.
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If this is something that is going to be used regularly instead of just
> looked at you might want to consider redoing the top in polyurethane or
> lacquer or varnish or something else that doesn't make white rings when it
> gets wet. There are those who cringe at the thought of this, but to me
> there are two kinds of furniture--museum pieces and pieces that are to be
> used. And for those that are used (at least by us ordinary folk who don't
> have dozens of spare rooms to fill with art) certain concessions of
> artistic purity should be made in the interest of utility.
>
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> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
On Fri, 27 May 2005 15:31:35 -0700, the inscrutable "J"
<[email protected]> spake:
>"CrackedHands" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> We had a bunch of friends & families coming over for a party last week
>> to "celebrate" my latest ww project. When the party was over, I was
>> shocked to find a white ring from a drink someone left on it!!!
>> (probably one of the kids.) :{
>>
>> What would you do to make sure this is not going to happen again, short
>> of canceling all future parties (impossible) or follow everyone around
>> and put the coaster on the table before he/she puts down the drink
>> (kinda impolite)?
>
>Put the table behind a velvet rope like they have in museums. If you have no
>velvet ropes consider not serving drinks.
Velvet ropes and no drinks? What kind of S&M joint IS this?
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If you turn the United States on its side,
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--Frank Lloyd Wright
On Fri, 27 May 2005 13:47:19 -0700, the inscrutable [email protected]
spake:
>On 27 May 2005 11:54:51 -0700, "CrackedHands" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Thanks, it was shallac. But my real point is, what would be a socially
>>acceptable way to prevent people from being careless on your "proud
>>pieice of art"?
>>
>>(Sorry if this is not directly related to the WW topic. But I guess
>>it's a problem that many of WWreckers might be facing.)
>
>
>100 years ago shellac was the predominant furniture finish. everyone
>knew how to treat it, even people who couldn't afford any. today
>laquer and poly have largely squeezed shellac out. if you want your
>shellac surfaces to be treated properly you'll have to educate your
>guests.
Right. Print out copies of the rules & gather everyone around. Now
hand 'em to everyone, making sure they read 'em BEFORE they get their
drinks. Keep a wooden yardstick handy for those who choose to forget.
"KAWHAP!" is a sound (and feel) the guests won't soon forget. ;)
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