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"SwampBug"

26/09/2004 11:54 AM

To minimize rust

on tools such as the table saw etc, has anyone tried this magnetic sheet =
material? Any outstanding advantages over just throwing an old bedsheet =
etc. over them?

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"SwampBug"

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

26/09/2004 3:06 PM

Flexible Magnetic sheet stuff can be purchased for around $4 sqft. At =
around 20 0r 30 mils it would lay down nicely on the saw top and =
virtually cut off air/moisture from the surface. Even and old sheet will =
help in extremely humid conditions. . .with dust as well as rust.
http://www.magnetvalley.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/8922


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"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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SwampBug asks:

>on tools such as the table saw etc, has anyone tried this magnetic =
sheet =3D
>material? Any outstanding advantages over just throwing an old bedsheet =
=3D
>etc. over them?

WHAT magnetic sheet material? The stuff that holds things on my =
refrigerator or
what?

Why would you throw an old sheet over a saw table? It doesn't protect =
against
anything but dust.

Charlie Self
"Half of the American people have never read a newspaper. Half never =
voted for
President. One hopes it is the same half." Gore Vidal

Sw

"SwampBug"

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

26/09/2004 3:18 PM

I prefer pastewax. . .and am still interested if anyone tried the =
magnetics sheet.

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"WoodMangler" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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I think I'll stick with T9.

SwampBug did say:

> Flexible Magnetic sheet stuff can be purchased for around $4 sqft. At =
around 20 0r 30 mils it would lay down nicely on the saw top and =
virtually cut off air/moisture from the surface. Even and old sheet will =
help in extremely humid conditions. . .with dust as well as rust.
> =
http://www.magnetvalley.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/8922

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"SwampBug"

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

27/09/2004 7:39 PM

LOL! I never thought of aluminum. . .prolly cause it don't rust.

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"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:54:09 -0500, "SwampBug" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>on tools such as the table saw etc, has anyone tried this magnetic =
sheet material? Any outstanding advantages over just throwing an old =
bedsheet etc. over them?
I'll stick to my old paste wax... especially on the 2 with aluminum
tables...
damn magnets just keep sliding off of 'em for some reason...=20


Mac

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"SwampBug"

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

28/09/2004 12:12 PM

"The formation of reddish-brown ferric oxides on iron by low-temperature =
oxidation in the presence of water"
Hence aluminum does not rust. Maybe someone should invent an 'aluminum =
magnet'. <s>
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"TWS" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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SwampBug wrote:

>LOL! I never thought of aluminum. . .prolly cause it don't rust.
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> =20
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Depends on your definition of rust. Aluminum Oxide can leave a pretty=20
nasty stain on your wood...

TWS

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"SwampBug"

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

28/09/2004 12:14 PM

I have a 12" disc sander from HF with an aluminum table. . .I'll have to =
consider that.

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"mac davis" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:39:07 -0500, "SwampBug" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>LOL! I never thought of aluminum. . .prolly cause it don't rust.

they don't rust, but as TWS mentioned, it comes with it's own set of
problems... especially that black that appears only on expensive
pieces of wood if you don't keep a good coat of wax on the table..


Mac

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

26/09/2004 6:25 PM

SwampBug asks:

>on tools such as the table saw etc, has anyone tried this magnetic sheet =
>material? Any outstanding advantages over just throwing an old bedsheet =
>etc. over them?

WHAT magnetic sheet material? The stuff that holds things on my refrigerator or
what?

Why would you throw an old sheet over a saw table? It doesn't protect against
anything but dust.

Charlie Self
"Half of the American people have never read a newspaper. Half never voted for
President. One hopes it is the same half." Gore Vidal

md

mac davis

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

27/09/2004 2:54 PM

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:54:09 -0500, "SwampBug" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>on tools such as the table saw etc, has anyone tried this magnetic sheet material? Any outstanding advantages over just throwing an old bedsheet etc. over them?
I'll stick to my old paste wax... especially on the 2 with aluminum
tables...
damn magnets just keep sliding off of 'em for some reason...


Mac

b

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

28/09/2004 9:17 AM

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 13:52:45 GMT, TWS <[email protected]> wrote:

>SwampBug wrote:
>
>>LOL! I never thought of aluminum. . .prolly cause it don't rust.
>>
>>
>>
>Depends on your definition of rust. Aluminum Oxide can leave a pretty
>nasty stain on your wood...
>
>TWS

rust is iron oxide, opinions notwithstanding.

TT

TWS

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

28/09/2004 1:52 PM

SwampBug wrote:

>LOL! I never thought of aluminum. . .prolly cause it don't rust.
>
>
>
Depends on your definition of rust. Aluminum Oxide can leave a pretty
nasty stain on your wood...

TWS

An

"AL"

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

26/09/2004 10:40 PM

I like Johnson's paste wax, but pretty much anything (cargo blanket, regular
blanket, bed sheet, etc.) that _touches_ the iron surfaces will prevent
condensation and rust. If it is floating over the table saw surface (for
example, because the blade guard is in the way), then you'll still get
condensation and rust. I would avoid using a plastic sheet because it will
trap moisture and make the problem worse.

"SwampBug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
on tools such as the table saw etc, has anyone tried this magnetic sheet
material? Any outstanding advantages over just throwing an old bedsheet etc.
over them?

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mac davis

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

29/09/2004 2:20 PM

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:12:09 -0500, "SwampBug" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"The formation of reddish-brown ferric oxides on iron by low-temperature oxidation in the presence of water"
>Hence aluminum does not rust. Maybe someone should invent an 'aluminum magnet'. <s>

we have one in the neighborhood...
old dude that lives on the block and recycles for extra income...
about the time you're half way through a beer, he somehow knows and is
standing nearby like a friggin vulture.. lol


Mac

tT

[email protected] (ToolMiser)

in reply to mac davis on 29/09/2004 2:20 PM

29/09/2004 5:32 PM

Aluminum doesn't rust, but it does oxidize, and that is comparable to "rust".

b

in reply to mac davis on 29/09/2004 2:20 PM

29/09/2004 5:23 PM

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:14:58 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:12:33 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>you can't just unilaterally go redefining aluminum oxide as rust.
>
>You can in a woodworking group. Get over it...
>
>
>Anyway - don't tomato (?) plants get rust too.


no.... they get aluminum oxide.

<GD&R>

b

in reply to mac davis on 29/09/2004 2:20 PM

29/09/2004 11:12 AM

On 29 Sep 2004 17:32:05 GMT, [email protected] (ToolMiser) wrote:

>Aluminum doesn't rust, but it does oxidize, and that is comparable to "rust".



my car doesn't run on diesel, but it does use gasoline, and that is
comparable to "diesel".....

you can't just unilaterally go redefining aluminum oxide as rust.

md

mac davis

in reply to mac davis on 29/09/2004 2:20 PM

30/09/2004 2:28 PM

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 21:14:58 +0100, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:12:33 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>you can't just unilaterally go redefining aluminum oxide as rust.
>
>You can in a woodworking group. Get over it...
>
>
>Anyway - don't tomato (?) plants get rust too.

I think so.. is that the same as the "ring rust" that boxers get?



Mac

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Andy Dingley

in reply to mac davis on 29/09/2004 2:20 PM

29/09/2004 9:14 PM

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:12:33 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>you can't just unilaterally go redefining aluminum oxide as rust.

You can in a woodworking group. Get over it...


Anyway - don't tomato (?) plants get rust too.

AD

Andy Dingley

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

26/09/2004 9:34 PM

On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 11:54:09 -0500, "SwampBug" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>on tools such as the table saw etc, has anyone tried this magnetic sheet material?

No.

I use thick polythene sheet. Stuck to the top surface are a number of
cheap disk magnets, held down by squares of gaffer tape. Large
lettering and corner marks show me which way round they fit, and
whether I'm trying to cover the saw with the jointer's cover. Total
cost about $0.25, because it's all recycled scrap.

I need polythene covers because of internal condensation from my cold
roof in a damp workshop. In January it rains indoors, despite the
dehumidifier.

Ww

WoodMangler

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

26/09/2004 4:11 PM

I think I'll stick with T9.

SwampBug did say:

> Flexible Magnetic sheet stuff can be purchased for around $4 sqft. At around 20 0r 30 mils it would lay down nicely on the saw top and virtually cut off air/moisture from the surface. Even and old sheet will help in extremely humid conditions. . .with dust as well as rust.
> http://www.magnetvalley.com/index.cfm/fa/categories.main/parentcat/8922

md

mac davis

in reply to "SwampBug" on 26/09/2004 11:54 AM

28/09/2004 2:46 PM

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:39:07 -0500, "SwampBug" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>LOL! I never thought of aluminum. . .prolly cause it don't rust.

they don't rust, but as TWS mentioned, it comes with it's own set of
problems... especially that black that appears only on expensive
pieces of wood if you don't keep a good coat of wax on the table..


Mac


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