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[email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson)

06/05/2004 1:24 AM

Epoxy over shellac?

Hiya,
I'm building a box made of lacewood to house my Grandfather's urn as
he passed away yesterday. This will ultimately be buried and quite
frankly, it probably doesn't matter to a soul but me, I would like the
box to remain intact for as long as possible. I'm considering the
following for finishing: BLO, then Shellac (prolly garnett or orange
although I do have some blonde here somewhere) and was thinking epoxy
would give me the best protection. Can epoxy be put over Shellac and
remain there? I've heard of epoxy peeling from oil but with shellac
in the middle, I was curious.

I know asphalt or tar would probably be the ticket but that kind of
ruins it doesn't it? Anyway, thanks very much for your inputs.
Cheers,
cc


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[email protected] (Andy Dingley)

in reply to [email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson) on 06/05/2004 1:24 AM

06/05/2004 7:57 AM

[email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm building a box made of lacewood to house my Grandfather's urn as
> he passed away yesterday.

My sympathies on your loss.

> This will ultimately be buried and quite
> frankly, it probably doesn't matter to a soul but me, I would like the
> box to remain intact for as long as possible.

How about a lacewood veneer over a teak box ? Inherent rot resistance
in the timber beats any finish you can apply. OTOH, oily teak is a
little tricky to veneer - degrease the surface with dichloromethane
(Nitromors paint stripper) first

How about copper or lead sheet sheathing over a wooden box with a
decorative inner ?

Or (to be brutally blunt), how about scattering the ashes and
_planting_ some timber there as a memorial ? I'd rather remember my
loved ones through a memorial like that, than some hidden sepulchre.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to [email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson) on 06/05/2004 1:24 AM

06/05/2004 4:42 PM


"James Cubby Culbertson" writes:

> I'm building a box made of lacewood to house my Grandfather's urn as
> he passed away yesterday. This will ultimately be buried and quite
> frankly, it probably doesn't matter to a soul but me, I would like the
> box to remain intact for as long as possible.
<snip>

First, my condolences.

As far as a finish is concerned, use NOTHING but laminating epoxy.

Totally encapsulate the wood in 3-4 coats of epoxy and you are good to go.

Yes, that means both inside and outside of box.

If the box were to be left out in direct sunlight, UV damage would be a
consideration, but that does not appear to be a problem in this situation.

BTW, the bulkheads on my boat (fiberglass over plywood) were built using
similar techniques.

HTH


--
Lew

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JC

"James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"

in reply to [email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson) on 06/05/2004 1:24 AM

06/05/2004 9:36 AM


> Or (to be brutally blunt), how about scattering the ashes and
> _planting_ some timber there as a memorial ? I'd rather remember my
> loved ones through a memorial like that, than some hidden sepulchre.

Thanks Andy for the inputs. Ashes won't be scattered per his wishes
however
I will be planting a few trees in his honor at my home.

MG

"Mike G"

in reply to [email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson) on 06/05/2004 1:24 AM

06/05/2004 10:29 AM

My sympathies for your loss and no offense, but aren't you kind of over
engineering this finish thing?.

Just how much use, moving, handling, and, abuse do you think the box, given
it intent, is going to get.

However, use dewaxed shellac and you should be fine.

--
Mike G.
[email protected]
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
"James Cubby Culbertson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hiya,
> I'm building a box made of lacewood to house my Grandfather's urn as
> he passed away yesterday. This will ultimately be buried and quite
> frankly, it probably doesn't matter to a soul but me, I would like the
> box to remain intact for as long as possible. I'm considering the
> following for finishing: BLO, then Shellac (prolly garnett or orange
> although I do have some blonde here somewhere) and was thinking epoxy
> would give me the best protection. Can epoxy be put over Shellac and
> remain there? I've heard of epoxy peeling from oil but with shellac
> in the middle, I was curious.
>
> I know asphalt or tar would probably be the ticket but that kind of
> ruins it doesn't it? Anyway, thanks very much for your inputs.
> Cheers,
> cc

RS

Rick Samuel

in reply to [email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson) on 06/05/2004 1:24 AM

06/05/2004 7:25 PM

Along w/ the epoxy, use fiberglass tape. Wrap the tape first, two,
three layers, then paint on the epoxy. Let it cure, repeat as you feel
a need to.

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "James Cubby Culbertson" writes:
>
>
>>I'm building a box made of lacewood to house my Grandfather's urn as
>>he passed away yesterday. This will ultimately be buried and quite
>>frankly, it probably doesn't matter to a soul but me, I would like the
>>box to remain intact for as long as possible.
>
> <snip>
>
> First, my condolences.
>
> As far as a finish is concerned, use NOTHING but laminating epoxy.
>
> Totally encapsulate the wood in 3-4 coats of epoxy and you are good to go.
>
> Yes, that means both inside and outside of box.
>
> If the box were to be left out in direct sunlight, UV damage would be a
> consideration, but that does not appear to be a problem in this situation.
>
> BTW, the bulkheads on my boat (fiberglass over plywood) were built using
> similar techniques.
>
> HTH
>
>

JC

"James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"

in reply to [email protected] (James Cubby Culbertson) on 06/05/2004 1:24 AM

06/05/2004 9:38 AM


"Mike G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> My sympathies for your loss and no offense, but aren't you kind of over
> engineering this finish thing?.
>
Yup. And as I said, it probably doesn't mean a thing to anyone but me.
I was looking at epoxy to just preserve
the box and ultimately, the urn for a bit longer.
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