hh

"habbi"

26/09/2005 8:12 PM

planer problem

I have a new dewalt 13" planer and I am having hard time getting it to feed
reliably. The wood is pine which has been air dried for 2 years. The rubber
feed rollers are getting covered with sawdust/chips and will not feed the
board properly. Every 2 or 3 boards I have to wipe the rollers down with
paint thinner to remove the dust which must have some pitch in it. Is this
normal? How do sawmills feed green wood into their planers? Also the boards
are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
causing this? Thanks for any help.


This topic has 25 replies

DD

David

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 2:33 PM

habbi wrote:

Also the boards
> are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
> causing this? Thanks for any help.

a lack of effective dust collection. Try hooking up a decent DC to the
planer.

Dave

hh

"habbi"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 10:21 PM

That is the idea of the mesh cover that fits over the barrel, it is
supposed to let the air pass through it and keep the dust in the barrel, but
it must not be letting enough air through. Yes it is the most expensive
dewalt, up here in Canada it was on sale for $635.00.

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> habbi wrote:
>
> > The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from
it.
> > The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back
through
> > 10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the
barrel
> > is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
> > drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
> > restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
> > totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
> > chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC
system
> > how can I control the chips going into a can without them going
everywhere.
> >
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>habbi wrote:
> >>
> >> Also the boards
> >>
> >>>are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
> >>>causing this? Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >>a lack of effective dust collection. Try hooking up a decent DC to the
> >>planer.
> >>
> >>Dave
> >
> >
> >
> if there's no outlet for the air, the blower won't be effective because
> the air needs somewhere to exhaust to.
>
> Dave

DB

Duane Bozarth

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 5:01 PM

habbi wrote:
>
> The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from it.
> The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back through
> 10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the barrel
> is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
> drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
> restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
> totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
> chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC system
> how can I control the chips going into a can without them going everywhere.
...

You can't...the 4" exhaust is for hooking up to a DC...w/o that you're
only option is to let 'em blow because it isn't going to blow them into
anything--ain't a gonna' work.

PC

Patrick Conroy

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

27/09/2005 3:49 PM

"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
>
> How many cfm's should you look for in a DC system, I assume it should
> be more than the planer puts out of it's own fan.
>

It *sounds* like you have the DeWalt DW735 planer? Is that correct?

If so, I've had mine (my DW735) hooked up to a 1HP DC (about 500CFM) and a
1 1/2HP DC (about 900CFM). Both DCs were able to clear the chips.

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 8:16 PM

You don't have a dust collector connected to it, do you? Connect one and
both problems will go away.

"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have a new dewalt 13" planer and I am having hard time getting it to
feed
> reliably. The wood is pine which has been air dried for 2 years. The
rubber
> feed rollers are getting covered with sawdust/chips and will not feed the
> board properly. Every 2 or 3 boards I have to wipe the rollers down with
> paint thinner to remove the dust which must have some pitch in it. Is this
> normal? How do sawmills feed green wood into their planers? Also the
boards
> are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
> causing this? Thanks for any help.
>
>

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 8:19 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a new dewalt 13" planer

Which one, specifically?

>and I am having hard time getting it to feed
>reliably. The wood is pine which has been air dried for 2 years. The rubber
>feed rollers are getting covered with sawdust/chips and will not feed the
>board properly. Every 2 or 3 boards I have to wipe the rollers down with
>paint thinner to remove the dust which must have some pitch in it. Is this
>normal?

Normal when planing air-dried pine, yes. Kiln-drying hardens the resins in
pine, and greatly reduces this problem.

>How do sawmills feed green wood into their planers?

Sawmills don't plane green wood. They wait til it's dry.

>Also the boards
>are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
>causing this?

It's caused by chips not being extracted from the housing fast enough. Do you
have a dust collector attached to this planer?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

hh

"habbi"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 10:01 PM

The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from it.
The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back through
10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the barrel
is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC system
how can I control the chips going into a can without them going everywhere.

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> habbi wrote:
>
> Also the boards
> > are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
> > causing this? Thanks for any help.
>
> a lack of effective dust collection. Try hooking up a decent DC to the
> planer.
>
> Dave

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

27/09/2005 6:39 PM

Rust is any tools enemy,
Here in AZ we don't get rust.
When i lived in MD we could get rust overight on the table saw etc always
had to keep them coated with something,
I have tool steel all over the place and the only timeI have to deal with
rust is when water hits the steel directly.
As when it rains and the roof leaks. @#$%^*&^ Landord

"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Good to see you getting it working, George. Do the knives stay sharp after
> you fix the problem? I had a lot of problems with feeding when it was new
> but I know its those knives. I've made the mistake of storing my DeWalt
> planer on the garage floor and it collected a *lot* of rust within a short
> time. It was so bad that I couldn't move the cutting head, had to take it
> apart and restore it - what a rust magnet! That was my first and last
> DeWalt, I've gone to Harbor Freight (hey, it works for me), Bosch,
> Hitachi, Panasonic (drill), Skill (mag 77), Porter-Cable, Milwaukee and a
> few others since then. The 13" DeWalt planer looks like a pretty good one,
> much more solid than my 12.5".
>
>
>
> "George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Fred ,
>> I had that gear break also, Dewalt gave me another, after a little use it
>> broke also, after waithing to get the gear, I forgot how the chain was
>> supposed to go, so left the cover off to see if the chain was tracking
>> properly,
>> As it was running I noticed that it wobbled, called the Dewalt service
>> center, explained what was going on as i have now had it over a year.
>> they told me it was probably a bent drive roller, took it in an dropped
>> it off and the repaired at no cost,
>> They told me that they had a problem with the feed rollers in more that
>> one model, the feed rollers are all the same
>> Take the little plastc cover off on the side it covers the gear & chain
>> system and turn the unit on if there is a wobble you will have to problem
>> seeing it.
>>
>> By the way this sucker does blow chips into the next city,
>> I hooked up a hose and put in a board clamped down to a barrel
>> I don't have any problems not using a DC
>>
>> Good luck,
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>I have a new dewalt 13" planer and I am having hard time getting it to
>>>>feed
>>>> reliably. The wood is pine which has been air dried for 2 years. The
>>>> rubber
>>>> feed rollers are getting covered with sawdust/chips and will not feed
>>>> the
>>>> board properly. Every 2 or 3 boards I have to wipe the rollers down
>>>> with
>>>> paint thinner to remove the dust which must have some pitch in it. Is
>>>> this
>>>> normal? How do sawmills feed green wood into their planers? Also the
>>>> boards
>>>> are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
>>>> causing this? Thanks for any help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have the same problem with my Dealt 12.5" too. Everyone mention you
>>> needed dust collection (and that maybe so) but did you noticed the first
>>> few boards cuts perfectly out of the box without dust collection? The
>>> reason is DeWalt's knives doesn't stay sharp, even for soft wood for too
>>> long, and when you're produce more dust than chips which results in more
>>> stress on the planer, one of the gears will fail - know problem reported
>>> on the 13" planer. Cheap knives and you need to keep it sharp, otherwise
>>> its a pretty good planer from what I understand.
>>>
>>> Two things I could think of for the gouges: If the gouges are
>>> continuous, check the knives for nicks. If the gouges appear at the
>>> beginning or at the end of the board, you have snipe. You need to lock
>>> the head down and perhaps lift the board a little at the end to prevent
>>> snipe. You could plan boards way less than <1/4", just use a dummy board
>>> below it.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

28/09/2005 8:44 PM

Not A house this is a commercial warehouse,
As well as the love of woodworking, I make sawdust for a living


"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> As when it rains and the roof leaks. @#$%^*&^ Landord
>>
>
> I've found that a large, bright blue plastic tarp, nailed to the roof and
> secured with ropes, is effective at embarrassing the neighbors into
> motivating the reluctant landlord. Especially if someone in the
> neighborhood is trying to sell their home. ;-)
>
> Patriarch

DD

David

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 3:10 PM

habbi wrote:

> The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from it.
> The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back through
> 10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the barrel
> is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
> drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
> restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
> totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
> chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC system
> how can I control the chips going into a can without them going everywhere.
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>habbi wrote:
>>
>> Also the boards
>>
>>>are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
>>>causing this? Thanks for any help.
>>
>>a lack of effective dust collection. Try hooking up a decent DC to the
>>planer.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
>
if there's no outlet for the air, the blower won't be effective because
the air needs somewhere to exhaust to.

Dave

DD

David

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 3:08 PM

habbi wrote:

> The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from it.
> The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back through
> 10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the barrel
> is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
> drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
> restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
> totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
> chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC system
> how can I control the chips going into a can without them going everywhere.
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>habbi wrote:
>>
>> Also the boards
>>
>>>are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
>>>causing this? Thanks for any help.
>>
>>a lack of effective dust collection. Try hooking up a decent DC to the
>>planer.
>>
>>Dave
>
>
>
rather than relying on the blower inside the planer, you'd do better to
hook up a true DC. Something that SUCKS---hard. :) I presume you have
the $500 DeWALT planer?

Dave

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 6:58 PM

Fred ,
I had that gear break also, Dewalt gave me another, after a little use it
broke also, after waithing to get the gear, I forgot how the chain was
supposed to go, so left the cover off to see if the chain was tracking
properly,
As it was running I noticed that it wobbled, called the Dewalt service
center, explained what was going on as i have now had it over a year.
they told me it was probably a bent drive roller, took it in an dropped it
off and the repaired at no cost,
They told me that they had a problem with the feed rollers in more that one
model, the feed rollers are all the same
Take the little plastc cover off on the side it covers the gear & chain
system and turn the unit on if there is a wobble you will have to problem
seeing it.

By the way this sucker does blow chips into the next city,
I hooked up a hose and put in a board clamped down to a barrel
I don't have any problems not using a DC

Good luck,
George




"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have a new dewalt 13" planer and I am having hard time getting it to
>>feed
>> reliably. The wood is pine which has been air dried for 2 years. The
>> rubber
>> feed rollers are getting covered with sawdust/chips and will not feed the
>> board properly. Every 2 or 3 boards I have to wipe the rollers down with
>> paint thinner to remove the dust which must have some pitch in it. Is
>> this
>> normal? How do sawmills feed green wood into their planers? Also the
>> boards
>> are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
>> causing this? Thanks for any help.
>>
>>
>
> I have the same problem with my Dealt 12.5" too. Everyone mention you
> needed dust collection (and that maybe so) but did you noticed the first
> few boards cuts perfectly out of the box without dust collection? The
> reason is DeWalt's knives doesn't stay sharp, even for soft wood for too
> long, and when you're produce more dust than chips which results in more
> stress on the planer, one of the gears will fail - know problem reported
> on the 13" planer. Cheap knives and you need to keep it sharp, otherwise
> its a pretty good planer from what I understand.
>
> Two things I could think of for the gouges: If the gouges are continuous,
> check the knives for nicks. If the gouges appear at the beginning or at
> the end of the board, you have snipe. You need to lock the head down and
> perhaps lift the board a little at the end to prevent snipe. You could
> plan boards way less than <1/4", just use a dummy board below it.
>

FF

"Fred"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

27/09/2005 8:23 AM

Good to see you getting it working, George. Do the knives stay sharp after
you fix the problem? I had a lot of problems with feeding when it was new
but I know its those knives. I've made the mistake of storing my DeWalt
planer on the garage floor and it collected a *lot* of rust within a short
time. It was so bad that I couldn't move the cutting head, had to take it
apart and restore it - what a rust magnet! That was my first and last
DeWalt, I've gone to Harbor Freight (hey, it works for me), Bosch, Hitachi,
Panasonic (drill), Skill (mag 77), Porter-Cable, Milwaukee and a few others
since then. The 13" DeWalt planer looks like a pretty good one, much more
solid than my 12.5".



"George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fred ,
> I had that gear break also, Dewalt gave me another, after a little use it
> broke also, after waithing to get the gear, I forgot how the chain was
> supposed to go, so left the cover off to see if the chain was tracking
> properly,
> As it was running I noticed that it wobbled, called the Dewalt service
> center, explained what was going on as i have now had it over a year.
> they told me it was probably a bent drive roller, took it in an dropped it
> off and the repaired at no cost,
> They told me that they had a problem with the feed rollers in more that
> one model, the feed rollers are all the same
> Take the little plastc cover off on the side it covers the gear & chain
> system and turn the unit on if there is a wobble you will have to problem
> seeing it.
>
> By the way this sucker does blow chips into the next city,
> I hooked up a hose and put in a board clamped down to a barrel
> I don't have any problems not using a DC
>
> Good luck,
> George
>
>
>
>
> "Fred" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>I have a new dewalt 13" planer and I am having hard time getting it to
>>>feed
>>> reliably. The wood is pine which has been air dried for 2 years. The
>>> rubber
>>> feed rollers are getting covered with sawdust/chips and will not feed
>>> the
>>> board properly. Every 2 or 3 boards I have to wipe the rollers down with
>>> paint thinner to remove the dust which must have some pitch in it. Is
>>> this
>>> normal? How do sawmills feed green wood into their planers? Also the
>>> boards
>>> are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
>>> causing this? Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I have the same problem with my Dealt 12.5" too. Everyone mention you
>> needed dust collection (and that maybe so) but did you noticed the first
>> few boards cuts perfectly out of the box without dust collection? The
>> reason is DeWalt's knives doesn't stay sharp, even for soft wood for too
>> long, and when you're produce more dust than chips which results in more
>> stress on the planer, one of the gears will fail - know problem reported
>> on the 13" planer. Cheap knives and you need to keep it sharp, otherwise
>> its a pretty good planer from what I understand.
>>
>> Two things I could think of for the gouges: If the gouges are continuous,
>> check the knives for nicks. If the gouges appear at the beginning or at
>> the end of the board, you have snipe. You need to lock the head down and
>> perhaps lift the board a little at the end to prevent snipe. You could
>> plan boards way less than <1/4", just use a dummy board below it.
>>
>
>

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 6:26 PM

"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> That is the idea of the mesh cover that fits over the barrel, it is
> supposed to let the air pass through it and keep the dust in the
> barrel, but it must not be letting enough air through. Yes it is the
> most expensive dewalt, up here in Canada it was on sale for $635.00.
>

A DC adequate for your needs will cost you maybe another US$250-$300 at
most. And be useful for most, if not all, of your tools.

One thing leads to another, doesn't it? ;-)

Patriarch

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

28/09/2005 10:58 AM

"George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> As when it rains and the roof leaks. @#$%^*&^ Landord
>

I've found that a large, bright blue plastic tarp, nailed to the roof and
secured with ropes, is effective at embarrassing the neighbors into
motivating the reluctant landlord. Especially if someone in the
neighborhood is trying to sell their home. ;-)

Patriarch

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

27/09/2005 12:45 AM


"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> How many cfm's should you look for in a DC system, I assume it should be
> more than the planer puts out of it's own fan.
>

I'd go with the 1.5 hp models usually rated at about 1000 to 1200 cfm. I ran
my planer once with no Dc. Bought one the next week.

hh

"habbi"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 10:31 PM

How many cfm's should you look for in a DC system, I assume it should be
more than the planer puts out of it's own fan.

"CW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If yours is anything like mine, unless you use a dust collector, you will
> have problems. Lots of chips get thrown out but not enough.
>
> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from
> it.
> > The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back
> through
> > 10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the
> barrel
> > is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
> > drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
> > restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
> > totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
> > chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC
system
> > how can I control the chips going into a can without them going
> everywhere.
> >
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > habbi wrote:
> > >
> > > Also the boards
> > > > are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What
is
> > > > causing this? Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > a lack of effective dust collection. Try hooking up a decent DC to
the
> > > planer.
> > >
> > > Dave
> >
> >
>
>

CS

"Charles Spitzer"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

28/09/2005 11:19 AM


"Unquestionably Confused" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George M. Kazaka wrote:
>> Rust is any tools enemy,
>> Here in AZ we don't get rust.
>
> How difficult is it to shake scorpions out of a Dewalt 735? If you
> neglect to, do they stain the wood when the 735 does its thing?<g>

they move surprisingly fast, if given the urge to do so. just make sure you
shake your shoes before putting them on.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az
http://glassartists.org/chaniarts

Cc

"CW"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 10:20 PM

If yours is anything like mine, unless you use a dust collector, you will
have problems. Lots of chips get thrown out but not enough.

"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from
it.
> The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back
through
> 10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the
barrel
> is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
> drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
> restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
> totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
> chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC system
> how can I control the chips going into a can without them going
everywhere.
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > habbi wrote:
> >
> > Also the boards
> > > are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
> > > causing this? Thanks for any help.
> >
> > a lack of effective dust collection. Try hooking up a decent DC to the
> > planer.
> >
> > Dave
>
>

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

28/09/2005 2:28 AM

George M. Kazaka wrote:
> Rust is any tools enemy,
> Here in AZ we don't get rust.

How difficult is it to shake scorpions out of a Dewalt 735? If you
neglect to, do they stain the wood when the 735 does its thing?<g>


hh

"habbi"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

27/09/2005 9:41 PM

Yes it is the 735. Today I tried using about 2.5' of rigid 4" duct work with
a 90 on either end into a 55 gallon barrel with a mesh bag over the top.
Same problem, after 5 or 6 boards the rollers get coated with dust/chips and
the board will not feed, it gets so bad that i have to grab the unit and
push very hard with my waist on the board to get it through. Then I raise
the cutter head, wipe the rollers clean with kerosene on a rag and
everything works perfect for a few more boards. I plan on doing my cabinets
in kiln dried maple, I hope it works better on that. It must be the pine
pitch, the odd board actually has a bit of sticky sap on the ends.

"Patrick Conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> >
> >
> > How many cfm's should you look for in a DC system, I assume it should
> > be more than the planer puts out of it's own fan.
> >
>
> It *sounds* like you have the DeWalt DW735 planer? Is that correct?
>
> If so, I've had mine (my DW735) hooked up to a 1HP DC (about 500CFM) and a
> 1 1/2HP DC (about 900CFM). Both DCs were able to clear the chips.

nn

"no(SPAM)vasys" <"no(SPAM)vasys"@adelphia.net>

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 6:19 PM

habbi wrote:

> The planer has a 4" exit chute and blows a very large amount of air from it.
> The factory DC adapter reduces it to 3" and the I have it going back through
> 10' of 4" flexible hose into a barrel for collection. The top of the barrel
> is covered with a fine mesh bag. Actually the hose and mesh bag with
> drawstring is from my leaf blower/vacuum mulcher. I guess I must be
> restricting the air flow to the point that all dust chips are not being
> totally exhausted. The planer came with a chip chute adapter to aim the
> chips into a garbage can but they end up everywhere. Short of a DC system
> how can I control the chips going into a can without them going everywhere.

The planer is designed to be used with some form of dust collection. It
has a 4" port for attachment to a dust collector. The adapter actually
reduces the 4" to 2.25" for use with a shop vac. By attaching a 4" hose
and simply running it into a barrel you are restricting any fir flow
produced by the planer itself. If you don't have any means of duct
collection you would be better off removing the 4" hose and let the
planer try blow the chip without restriction. This is best done
outdoors unless your neighbors are armed.


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Jack Novak
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FF

"Fred"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

26/09/2005 5:45 PM


"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have a new dewalt 13" planer and I am having hard time getting it to feed
> reliably. The wood is pine which has been air dried for 2 years. The
> rubber
> feed rollers are getting covered with sawdust/chips and will not feed the
> board properly. Every 2 or 3 boards I have to wipe the rollers down with
> paint thinner to remove the dust which must have some pitch in it. Is this
> normal? How do sawmills feed green wood into their planers? Also the
> boards
> are getting small (<1/4" diameter) scooped out gouges in them. What is
> causing this? Thanks for any help.
>
>

I have the same problem with my Dealt 12.5" too. Everyone mention you needed
dust collection (and that maybe so) but did you noticed the first few boards
cuts perfectly out of the box without dust collection? The reason is
DeWalt's knives doesn't stay sharp, even for soft wood for too long, and
when you're produce more dust than chips which results in more stress on the
planer, one of the gears will fail - know problem reported on the 13"
planer. Cheap knives and you need to keep it sharp, otherwise its a pretty
good planer from what I understand.

Two things I could think of for the gouges: If the gouges are continuous,
check the knives for nicks. If the gouges appear at the beginning or at the
end of the board, you have snipe. You need to lock the head down and perhaps
lift the board a little at the end to prevent snipe. You could plan boards
way less than <1/4", just use a dummy board below it.

FF

"Fred"

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

27/09/2005 8:14 PM


"habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Yes it is the 735. Today I tried using about 2.5' of rigid 4" duct work
> with
> a 90 on either end into a 55 gallon barrel with a mesh bag over the top.
> Same problem, after 5 or 6 boards the rollers get coated with dust/chips
> and
> the board will not feed, it gets so bad that i have to grab the unit and
> push very hard with my waist on the board to get it through. Then I raise
> the cutter head, wipe the rollers clean with kerosene on a rag and
> everything works perfect for a few more boards. I plan on doing my
> cabinets
> in kiln dried maple, I hope it works better on that. It must be the pine
> pitch, the odd board actually has a bit of sticky sap on the ends.
>

Try a new set of knives.




> "Patrick Conroy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > How many cfm's should you look for in a DC system, I assume it should
>> > be more than the planer puts out of it's own fan.
>> >
>>
>> It *sounds* like you have the DeWalt DW735 planer? Is that correct?
>>
>> If so, I've had mine (my DW735) hooked up to a 1HP DC (about 500CFM) and
>> a
>> 1 1/2HP DC (about 900CFM). Both DCs were able to clear the chips.
>
>

UC

Unquestionably Confused

in reply to "habbi" on 26/09/2005 8:12 PM

27/09/2005 2:12 AM

Patriarch wrote:
> "habbi" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:

[snip]

>
> A DC adequate for your needs will cost you maybe another US$250-$300 at
> most. And be useful for most, if not all, of your tools.
>
> One thing leads to another, doesn't it? ;-)


And that's a good thing so long as SWMBO buys into your argument<g>


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