Turning tool question

Fri, Dec 3, 2004, 8:37pm (EST-1) [email protected] (Prometheus)
waves and says:
Hello all,
The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe <snip>

I got HF turning tools too, several years ago. Except I got the
$10 set. Figured I could learn how to sharpen, and move up to a better
set after I wore them out. And, if I screwed one up learning
sharpening, no biggie. Well, I did learn sharpening of lathe tools,
found out I prefer using a small belt sander for that, no particular
grit. But, haven't worn the damn tools out yet, so still using them. I
will admit I don't use them an immense amount, got other things going,
but they're holding up nicely, and work for what I want.

I'm of the opinion that lathe tool sharpening doesn't need a jig.
And, that angles and all aren't so critical, as a plane blade would need
to be. Reason, you aren't working at fixed angles. You're hand holding
the tool, so your angles aren't going to be consitent. Close maybe, but
not consistent. So, sharpening on a belt sander is faster, easier, and
does the job. Sure, you can use a jig, and put the same angle back on
time after time. Then, when you use it, you're going to constantly be
changing the angle it cuts at. I figure that close, is all you need, as
far as sharpening angles for lathe tools. If it looks right, it's good
enough. If I was making a living at turning, maybe I'd change my mind;
but, I'm not, and I'm happy with results I get.

Huh. I just checked HF for their $10 lathe chisel set. And, it's
now just 3 chisels.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47100
I got 5 in mine. But, I'd still got with it; then, like I said, if you
screw up one, not out much. You can always upgrade later.



JOAT
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
matter, and those who matter dont mind.
- Dr Seuss

Prometheus wrote:

> The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
> week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
> whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
> offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group

I'm not sure what Delta's tools look like. Low end lathe tools come in two
flavors. One flavor looks like this

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=3793

They come in all kind of different boxes. I have three sets of them that
people gave me when they found out I had a lathe. They gave them to me
because they are CRAP. They're just complete junk. They have little 1"
tangs barely stuffed into too loose handles, they're extremely easy to burn
at the grinder, and they don't hold an edge for crap.

The other flavor looks like this:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47066

These are pretty good. I haven't experienced anything better, so I don't
know how they compare to Crown or Sorby or Horky Floofychunk's $50 a pop
tools. They are absolutely exquisite compared to the cheapo set. I think
they're Crown knockoffs. Add a couple of bowl gouges, and you have a
pretty reasonable set of tools.

Anyway, the bed extension is probably worth more, so if the bed extension is
"free" I would go that route and then buy the (good) HF tools. Buy them in
person if you can, so you don't have to wait until the middle of January to
get them.

I wish I could use a bed extension. I have a JET mini, which is very
similar to your Delta. I frequently wish I had even a few more inches
between centers. I don't have room for one though, no way, no how, so it's
moot.

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J T wrote:

> grit. But, haven't worn the damn tools out yet, so still using them. I
> will admit I don't use them an immense amount, got other things going,
> but they're holding up nicely, and work for what I want.

Funny how mileage varies. Mine didn't last a month before they were falling
apart.

You want a set of these damn things somebody gave me? I still owe you
something for something or something I think. I threw the box in my trunk
a year ago, and if it's still in there, you can have'em.

> not consistent. So, sharpening on a belt sander is faster, easier, and
> does the job. Sure, you can use a jig, and put the same angle back on

I pretty much agree. I still haven't gotten the hang of sharpening gouges
though, even after trying some jiggery. My techique isn't quite right.
They're good for awhile, but then one day I wake up and realize that I've
boogered up the profile so they only cut right in the middle, and the edges
are useless. All my skews are screwed too, come to think of it. The faces
don't meet in the middle, so if you look at the blade edge on, it looks
like

-----------------------------------------------
|---------- |
| ------------------- |
| ---------- |
| -----|
|---------------------------------------------|

kind of. Not that exaggerated (or stairsteppy).

Lathe tools suck. Having to sharpen the blasted things perpetually is
definitely the worst part of turning.

The other worst part is seeing half your stuff warp or split. If you turn
it wet, you have to baby it forever to get it to come out right (ie dry
evenly, without deforming or splitting), with a low success rate, and if
you turn it dry, you relieve some stress and the whole damn thing goes
kaflunk, and that's all she wrote. Either way, I find the ratio of success
to firewood is dismal.

Turning is fun. It's everything surrounding it that's IMHO a real PITA.
Best just to turn for the fun of making interesting shapes out of wood, and
keep a fire going so you can save time by taking the work straight off the
lathe and pitching it into the flames.

Except change dishes. I have a buttload of change dishes. All my spindle
work though, every last bliffin' piece, has been a failure for one reason
or another.

Or, put another way, I really suck at turning. Sure enough that's
absolutely true.

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Andy Dingley wrote:

> Is this a long bed or a bed extension ? If it prevents you getting it
> in the future, then definitely get it at the start. AFAIR, this is the
> difference between a foot and two foot ?

Just FYI, the Delta Midi he's looking at is very similar to the JET mini I
have. On that one, the out of the box distance between centers is 14".
That's an extremely optimistic figure, and it's all but impossible to use
all of it. The bed extension doesn't give you any swing, and it doesn't
turn the baby into a full-sized lathe, but it extends the distance between
centers all the way to a whopping 40".

It's a pretty significant improvement, I'd say. (I don't have room for one
though, so I'm stuck with somewhere around 11" being the longest thing I
can turn comfortably.)

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For now, and the foreseeable future, they're better than you, so get the
tools. Reviews may have been on differently outsourced stuff, anyway. I've
been using my "free with" set of carbon steel tools for nearly twenty years.
They're still the ones I reach for for certain jobs, and I count 16 other
tools (exclusive of one-trick wonders) on the holder, purchased since, from
which to choose.


"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello all,
>
> The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
> week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
> whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
> offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
> first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
> checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
> tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
> Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
> anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
> hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
> to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
> job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
> right away!
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 09:20:59 -0500, "George" <george@least> wrote:

>For now, and the foreseeable future, they're better than you, so get the
>tools. Reviews may have been on differently outsourced stuff, anyway. I've
>been using my "free with" set of carbon steel tools for nearly twenty years.
>They're still the ones I reach for for certain jobs, and I count 16 other
>tools (exclusive of one-trick wonders) on the holder, purchased since, from
>which to choose.

Yeah, since I posted this, I've been thinking about the tools a
little, and realizing that there's no particular reason why I would
"need" HSS. Folks have been using carbon steel for a good long time,
and it's not like the quality of lathe work has increased a
thousandfold because of HSS or anything. I figure I'm going to go for
the tools- If I change my mind about them, I'll be out $50 for the bed
extension- but if I get the extension and decide to get the tools
later, it's going to cost me twice as much.

>"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
>> week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
>> whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
>> offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
>> first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
>> checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
>> tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
>> Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
>> anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
>> hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
>> to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
>> job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
>> right away!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
>

Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:37:01 -0600, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
>week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
>whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
>offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
>first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
>checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
>tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
>Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
>anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
>hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
>to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
>job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
>right away!
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

When I researched turning tools, I bought the best I could find. I
have a set of Sorby turning tools. These run anywhere from 30 to 120
dollars each, but the smaller ones are much less. Woodcraft carries
quality turning tools and supplies.

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:37:01 -0600, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
>week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
>whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
>offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
>first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
>checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
>tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
>Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
>anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
>hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
>to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
>job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
>right away!
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Aut inveniam viam aut faciam


I bought the $30 set of HSS tools from Habor Freight as the set to
start out with. These I can play around with a learn how to sharpen
and not worry how my grinding is messing up the steel. I then have
purchased roughing and bowl gouges and a scraper with more quality.
It's like any set, you get a bunch and use some.

Seems to work for me so far

Allyn

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:37:01 -0600, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
>week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
>whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
>offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
>first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
>checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
>tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
>Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
>anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
>hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
>to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
>job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
>right away!
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Aut inveniam viam aut faciam


these seem to be about the best of the low-end sets:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47066

I definitely agree. The Harbor Freight set has been said to be very
good and is probably better than the Delta. The bed extension gives
more versatility and (from years of experience) when you're doing
faceplate work (bowls & hollowing) being able to move the tailstock
far out of your way without having to remove it is very nice.

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:37:01 -0600, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm debating whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
>offering,

Is this a long bed or a bed extension ? If it prevents you getting it
in the future, then definitely get it at the start. AFAIR, this is the
difference between a foot and two foot ?

What are you going to turn ? Spindles or bowls too ? If it's just
spindle work for the moment, you don't need many chisels so you can
afford to spend on good ones. On a larger lathe you might also want a
few sizes of skew etc. - on this lathe you can probably manage with
just one for some time.

There are two factors to tool quality; shape and metallurgy. Apart
from the bottom end, pretty much all "HSS" chisels are pretty good -
even Crown. Unlike plane irons, there just isn't a big quality
separation between middling and top-end (although there's always
rubbish to be had).

Shape is a matter of grinding. I don't know any maker that offers a
spindle gouge that's the right shape. So whatever you buy, then you're
facing some grinding work first.

And that brings us to the most important lathe accessory - your
grinder. This is something you really do need. HSS will survive a
metalworking grinder for peanuts (and this is a great way to put a
decent fingernal on your spindle gouge), but it's not the best way to
get a good edge.

Sets also tend to offer some useless tools - scrapers, badly shaped
bowl gouges. Look at sets, but judge them on what you're going to use,
not what they put in the box.

Most sets include a flat skew rather than an oval. Now this is useful,
and for straight spindle work it's the best sort - round those edges
off on the grinder so it doesn't catch, but preserve flat face for
stability. If you're learning though, or you want to turn lots of
beads, then get a small oval skew where "oval" really does mean some
near-round curvature.

By the looks of it though, if that HF set isn't made of cheese, then
it looks like a bargain. They're remarkably like Axminster's $100 set.
--
Smert' spamionam

I bought the Harbor Freight 8 pc. HSS set when i bought my lathe. So far,
they have held up well for the $39.99 price tag. Although, I have slowly
replaced the ones i use the most with Sorby tools. Don't forget, you'll also
need some method to sharpen the tools. A cheap bench grinder could work for
starters. In any case, I'd recommend getting the $39.99 HF set and getting
the bed extension. Can't go wrong. --dave
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello all,
>
> The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
> week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
> whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
> offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
> first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
> checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
> tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
> Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
> anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
> hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
> to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
> job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
> right away!
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

An important criteria is to get tools made from high speed steel (should
have HSS stamped on each one). Penn State has a set for $69 that
includes a bowl gouge. Most other sets have only spindle turning
tools. If you're going to make ornaments with hollow globes, you could
use the bowl gouge.
You won't need the bed extension for the ornaments, but it may come in
handy. This woodturning thing is a bit adictive and, like boats, you'll
soon decide you need a bigger lathe. I've done woodworking for years,
but after trying woodturning on a Delta a few years ago, probably 2/3
of my shop time is turning now.
Besides the Delta Midi, Jet also makes a mini. Harbor Freight has a low
end starter lathe that many find very servicable as a starter. I think
what you'd get with the HF is a larger capacity lathe for about the same
price (or less) as the Delta. The HF comes from Taiwan or china, but I
believe the Delta comes from overseas also. If you get the Delta, my
advice is that you not sell it when (not if) you upgrade to a bigger
lathe. It still will be great for it's ability to be easily transported
in case you want to take it with you or just out into the back yard to
turn on a nice day.
You might also monitor rec.crafts.woodturning. Lots of good info there
and exposure to people who can get you invited in to the WOW (world of
woodturning) group which posts lots of pictures everyday. Lots on
ornaments right now.

Have fun turning
Art

Prometheus wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
>week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
>whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
>offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
>first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
>checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
>tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
>Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
>anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
>hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
>to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
>job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
>right away!
>
>Thanks
>
>
>Aut inveniam viam aut faciam
>
>

Prometheus <[email protected]> writes:

> Hello all,
>
> The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
> week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
> whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
> offering, or the bed extension.

Woodcraft has a set of 5 HSS chisels for $30 this month...
You need chisels, that's for sure. And something to sharpen them.
Woodcraft also has a special sale on their low speed grinder for $75.

You can't cut wood with a bed extension, nor sharpen chisels.
I'd hold off on the extension for a while.

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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:26:44 -0600, Prometheus
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Yeah, since I posted this, I've been thinking about the tools a
>little, and realizing that there's no particular reason why I would
>"need" HSS.

HSS is still a good choice for turning chisels, same as it is for
pocketknives. The alloys that survive turning metal at red heats (the
original purpose of HSS) also have very good wear resistance.

For some sorts of turning, maybe even most sorts, you don't need it.
But do something bulky in a high-toolwear timber and you'll be glad of
it.

--
Smert' spamionam

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:29:50 +0000, Andy Dingley
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 20:37:01 -0600, Prometheus
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I'm debating whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
>>offering,
>
>Is this a long bed or a bed extension ? If it prevents you getting it
>in the future, then definitely get it at the start. AFAIR, this is the
>difference between a foot and two foot ?

A bed extension- it'll be available whenever I need it later if I go
for the tools. It's the difference between (IIRC) about 14" and 33".

>What are you going to turn ? Spindles or bowls too ? If it's just
>spindle work for the moment, you don't need many chisels so you can
>afford to spend on good ones. On a larger lathe you might also want a
>few sizes of skew etc. - on this lathe you can probably manage with
>just one for some time.

Chessmen. Obviously, I'll try some other stuff for fun, but it's
primary reason to exist is to turn chess sets. Small spindles and
various parts for shop-made jigs and fixtures are probably going to
get thrown on there as well.

>There are two factors to tool quality; shape and metallurgy. Apart
>from the bottom end, pretty much all "HSS" chisels are pretty good -
>even Crown. Unlike plane irons, there just isn't a big quality
>separation between middling and top-end (although there's always
>rubbish to be had).

Here we come to the crux of the matter. The Delta set has eight
full-size chisels (No choice as to what is included) They are not,
however, HSS- they are a "special steel alloy" which could be
anything. I'm guessing they fall somewhere between carbon steel and
HSS.

>Shape is a matter of grinding. I don't know any maker that offers a
>spindle gouge that's the right shape. So whatever you buy, then you're
>facing some grinding work first.
>
>And that brings us to the most important lathe accessory - your
>grinder. This is something you really do need. HSS will survive a
>metalworking grinder for peanuts (and this is a great way to put a
>decent fingernal on your spindle gouge), but it's not the best way to
>get a good edge.

I've got a Delta 8" slimline bench grinder and a 4" belt / 6" disc
sander, one of which is sure to do the job. Any advice either way?
(FWIW, I can get a hollow ground on the end of the belt sander- I'm
not looking at making a flat bevel)

>Sets also tend to offer some useless tools - scrapers, badly shaped
>bowl gouges. Look at sets, but judge them on what you're going to use,
>not what they put in the box.

That's going to take some experience, so for right now, I'm just going
to take what they're giving, and upgrade to Sorby (or whatever looks
the best) as I figure out what I need.

>Most sets include a flat skew rather than an oval. Now this is useful,
>and for straight spindle work it's the best sort - round those edges
>off on the grinder so it doesn't catch, but preserve flat face for
>stability. If you're learning though, or you want to turn lots of
>beads, then get a small oval skew where "oval" really does mean some
>near-round curvature.
>
>By the looks of it though, if that HF set isn't made of cheese, then
>it looks like a bargain. They're remarkably like Axminster's $100 set.

Boy, I sure do hear a lot about HF... I've never seen one, though!
Must be somewhere I'm not. There is a set of 5 "mini" turning tools
offered by Wilton (seems like those guys appeared out of nowhere for
this holiday season...) for about $50. I'm planning on nabbing those
at the same time as the lathe so I'm not sitting around waiting for
the mail.


Aut inveniam viam aut faciam

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 13:26:20 -0500, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:
<snip>
> I'm of the opinion that lathe tool sharpening doesn't need a jig.
>And, that angles and all aren't so critical, as a plane blade would need
>to be. Reason, you aren't working at fixed angles. You're hand holding
>the tool, so your angles aren't going to be consitent. Close maybe, but
>not consistent. So, sharpening on a belt sander is faster, easier, and
>does the job. Sure, you can use a jig, and put the same angle back on
>time after time. Then, when you use it, you're going to constantly be
>changing the angle it cuts at. I figure that close, is all you need, as
>far as sharpening angles for lathe tools. If it looks right, it's good
>enough. If I was making a living at turning, maybe I'd change my mind;
>but, I'm not, and I'm happy with results I get.
>
> Huh. I just checked HF for their $10 lathe chisel set. And, it's
>now just 3 chisels.
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=47100
>I got 5 in mine. But, I'd still got with it; then, like I said, if you
>screw up one, not out much. You can always upgrade later.
>
>
>
>JOAT
>Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind dont
>matter, and those who matter dont mind.
>- Dr Seuss
My wife sharpens all my tools on her 1" belt grinder... she has
thousands of dollars in sharpening tools and uses her grinder for
everything but saw blades..
I can' sharpen a damn pocket knife, so I sure am glad that she's a
"Foley" grad.. *g*

P -

Back in my lizard brain, I seem to recall reading here, I think, or about
it, for sure, that surprizingly, HF's turning set was pretty good... Not
pretty good for the price, but regular old pretty good... There are a *few*
gems there, and who knows who's making them this week, but....

I like the advice about getting the HF set and the bed extension, if you
want to turn longer objects - You might try to get a couple of really good
chisels too, Sorby, etc... because you're saving the wife on money spent on
gifts and additional ornamentation for the tree and home for *years* to
come! Salad bowls, trivets, vases... C'mon, work it, boy! It really
doesn't matter if you deliver (other than the RIGHT NOW stuff) She already
knows anything she gets out of you will be a blessing, but WHILE she's
buying the lathe, you wouldn't want her to get SHORTCHANGED here... Tell her
your only thinking of her interests. She might spring for a whole Sorby set!

Chokes me up just thinking about it.

John Moorhead
Lakeport, CA


"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
>
> The wife is getting me a a Delta Midi Lathe as my Xmas present next
> week (A little early so I can turn some ornaments) and I'm debating
> whether I should go for the set of eight turning tools Delta is
> offering, or the bed extension. I asked on the woodturning group
> first, but it seems like that group is fairly dead right now- so I'm
> checking here. I googled around for reviews on the Delta turning
> tools, and all I could find were reprints of the two reviews on
> Amazon- one said they were awesome, and one said they suck. Has
> anyone used these chisels, and if so, are they any good or should I
> hold off and get a better set later? In any case, they're just going
> to be used to hold me over until I decide what I want and need for the
> job, but I'm going to need *something* to use to play with my new toy
> right away!
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Aut inveniam viam aut faciam