when to use OSB

"LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> snip
>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
>> the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real
>> doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>
>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>
> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
> isn't?
Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat. Apparently
there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be a
structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.

"LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> snip
>>>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
>>>> the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real
>>>> doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>>>
>>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>>
>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
>>> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
>>> isn't?
>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not
>> be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>>
>
> OK, then How do they orient it?
Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction. Each of
those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I guess that means
they are straight) ;)

The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are big
presses at work.

LDosser wrote:
> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> snip
>
>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
>> the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real
>> doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>
>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>
>
> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
> isn't?

The interior ply are oriented with each ply at a right angle to the
next. It's only the outer two surfaces that are random.

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[email protected] wrote in news:0ejlb5tc91vkkh098c1ne8bg8mru4v9vju@
4ax.com:

> I'd agree.
> My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER.
>
> I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything.

I've got one project with any OSB at all. I used it because the drawer I
was using required a sheeting-based bottom, and all the school shop had
was 1x12's. It is possible to sand OSB to a nice smooth feel, but you're
better off with ply for anything that is touched.

There's actually some left over OSB from an addition in the shed. It's
free (well, already paid for), but still hasn't found its way in to my
material selection process.

Puckdropper
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:12:56 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:

>coloradotrout wrote:
>> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
>> sheathing.
>>
>> When do you use it around the shop?
>>
>> I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
>> plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB
>> would server the purpose.
>
>
>I'm not sure it's worth the savings.
>I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it
>takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased.
>I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again.
>
>Keep in mind that, in general, one side grips and one side slips, by
>design.
>It's not something I'd want to be sliding hands or edges of plywood
>across, on the grip side.
>
>It also splinters and chips very easily, so depending on manufacture and
>cutting blade, can be downright nasty to handle on a cut edge.
>
>For your purpose, I think melamine would be better. It's smooth and
>clean and sheets would slide across very easily, and not mark or scratch
>against it.
I'd agree.
My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER.

I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything.

"Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...

Does *anyone* ever understand what you blather about?

On Sep 23, 9:39=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:12:56 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >coloradotrout wrote:
> >> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
> >> sheathing.
>
> >> When do you use it around the shop?
>
> >> I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
> >> plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. =A0At $6 a sheet, seems OS=
B
> >> would server the purpose.
>
> >I'm not sure it's worth the savings.
> >I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it
> >takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased.
> >I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again=
.
>
> >Keep in mind that, in general, one side grips and one side slips, by
> >design.
> >It's not something I'd want to be sliding hands or edges of plywood
> >across, on the grip side.
>
> >It also splinters and chips very easily, so depending on manufacture and
> >cutting blade, can be downright nasty to handle on a cut edge.
>
> >For your purpose, I think melamine would be better. It's smooth and
> >clean and sheets would slide across very easily, and not mark or scratch
> >against it.
>
> =A0I'd agree.
> My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER.
>
> I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything.

We build shipping crates from it all the time. And we also use it for
vacuum pressing cauls. And we've even used a little bit as door
panels after we ran it through the widebelt. Funky looking stuff once
it's sanded smooth and finished with some amber shellac. That was
just for kicks though.

JP

On Sep 30, 10:39=A0am, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> =A0Of course, there is waterproof, and then there is
> waterproof...
>


No there isn't. It is either waterproof or it isn't.

On Oct 1, 9:39=A0am, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafenin=
g
> > silence...
>
> > Sorry to confuse you!
>
> Perhaps in this case, random orientation is a reference to the method of
> applying the wood chips, not to them pointing in any particular direction
> when they're applied. Or perhaps, it was just an obscure name the designi=
ng
> engineer pulled out of thin air to give to his new process.
>
> No oxymoron there.

Again, it looks as though the strands ARE oriented, along a specific
axis, to maximize strength (along that axis).

It also looks -- at least from the results of ONE study -- as though
there is more benefit to be gained from orienting MORE strands along
that same axis, and to a greater degree:

http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/181115603.html

I've used it for shop/garage shelving.

On Oct 1, 12:58=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 12:31 pm, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Upscale wrote:
> >>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>> Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...
> >>> Does *anyone* ever understand what you blather about?
> >> Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafeni=
ng
> >> silence...
>
> >> Sorry to confuse you!
>
> > Random orientation is NOT an oxymoron, moron.
>
> /that/ was mature.
>
> :-p
>

I wasn't sure if I got you with that one... guess I did =3D0)

On 9/23/2009 10:02 PM Puckdropper spake thus:

> [email protected] wrote in news:0ejlb5tc91vkkh098c1ne8bg8mru4v9vju@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> I'd agree.
>> My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER.
>>
>> I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything.
>
> I've got one project with any OSB at all. I used it because the drawer I
> was using required a sheeting-based bottom, and all the school shop had
> was 1x12's. It is possible to sand OSB to a nice smooth feel, but you're
> better off with ply for anything that is touched.

You mention sanding OSB: have you ever seen it used for flooring? I mean
finished flooring; a friend owns a building hereabouts, commercial
downstairs, residential upstairs, that has finished OSB floors. They're
actually quite attractive and serviceable, even after many years of use.

Other than that, I agree with that poster a couple of replies back: I
never use the crap.


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On 9/30/2009 6:22 PM -MIKE- spake thus:

> There are home builders who will use rigid polystyrene sheets for
> sheathing, and just use a half sheet of ply/OSB on the corners. please.
>
> If you're a thief, why waste your time with a door, when all you need is
> a cordless reciprocating saw to cut a man sized hole in the freakin wall?

Or, more amusingly, a cartoon-character-sized hole in the wall. (Like
Wiley Coyote getting snookered by the roadrunner for the 159,000th time.)


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On Oct 2, 10:59=A0am, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:


>
> Doesn't matter. =A0Random denotes no particular direction, and oriented
> denotes direction, and using them together in this context is an
> oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening silence...
>

So.. if one had several thousand woods chips, and tossed them in the
air, after landing on the ground, some would point this way, some
would point in another direction...like..point randomly in all
directions..some N, some NE, some South...randomly...
Their orientation would be random, no? You know... random orientation?
.
.
.
Or are you one of the Rovian Bushites who can not and will not admit
they're wrong?

On Oct 1, 12:31=A0pm, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> Upscale wrote:
> > "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...
> > Does *anyone* ever understand what you blather about?
>
> Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening
> silence...
>
> Sorry to confuse you!
>


Random orientation is NOT an oxymoron, moron.

On Oct 1, 12:58=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 12:31 pm, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Upscale wrote:
> >>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>>> Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...
> >>> Does *anyone* ever understand what you blather about?
> >> Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafeni=
ng
> >> silence...
>
> >> Sorry to confuse you!
>
> > Random orientation is NOT an oxymoron, moron.
>
> /that/ was mature.
>
> :-p
>

What I was trying to say.... was that Stein can take care of
himself...no...wait.... never mind.

Jack I think you get indoor use strand with deck board and roof and siding
mixed up.

There is outdoor water proof glue. It makes for a heavier board and is
more expensive. Some builders cheap out.

A big builder in San Jose area was caught a few years after he completed
a housing tract. I think insurance paid and he continues to pay high insurance.

The other one on rood decking - use stainless staples. If you use normal steel
they will rust out and shingles will blow or fall off.

Martin

Jack Stein wrote:
> LDosser wrote:
>> "Jack Stein" wrote in message
>
>>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff
>>> for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building
>>> real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>
>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>
>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
>> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
>> isn't?
>
> I dunno, I always called it flake board or wafer board, and had the same
> question you do. I assume it's supposed to all go in one direction, but
> sure doesn't seem to do that, does it? Anyway, the stuff is pretty good
> for it's intended purposes. Of interest to me, someone who normally
> hates this stuff, I found it OK for doors on my TS bench... surprises
> the heck out of me. Even more surprising is in this very thread,
> someone else said/did the same thing... Also, I learned long long ago
> the stuff is more durable in weather than most people think, just keep
> it off the ground.
>
> I think lots of people think of particle board, designed for indoor use
> like counter tops as so on, that stuff gets wet, it immediately swells
> and falls apart. If glue is not waterproof, it can't get wet. Wood is
> waterproof, so if you have a wood product, with waterproof glue, you
> should be OK. Of course, there is waterproof, and then there is
> waterproof...
>

"coloradotrout" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
> sheathing.
>
> When do you use it around the shop?

Never have, never will.

Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> coloradotrout wrote:
>> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
>> sheathing.
>>
>> When do you use it around the shop?
>
> I inherited a pile of OSB cut-offs when I moved into my current shop. I
> use it for decks on light-duty pallets, and I've used strips to sticker
> rough-sawn wood.
>
> It hasn't been a suitable material for anything else I've done.
>
>> I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
>> plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB
>> would server the purpose.
>
> It's cheap, but not very durable.
>

At work, OSB stands for Obscenely Swelling Board. It's OK for some
interior uses, but not as good as ply for holding fasteners. Any
application that might even think about getting wet is out of the question.

Unless you're talking about Advantec - now THAT's good stuff.

Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?

"adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;"

The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on
another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting
panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would
cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would
take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined
up).

http://www.google.com/search?q=define+Oriented&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

I wasn't going to tell anybody but I think I have to get it off my
chest. I needed a real workbench and I had to use what I had laying
around, and that was some rough cut white oak two by fours and three
OSB former shelf-boards boards. I laminated the three shelf boards
together with yellow glue, then used the oak for the frame and to band
the edges. I figured "This will last me a couple years and then I'll
build a real one." Got it mostly sanded down, finished it will
Waterlox and put a coat of Johnson's wax on the top. A friend gave me
a couple of old quick release vises. Put some drop-down wheels on it
so I could shove it around the shop when I had to. (That's pretty much
required in that little shop.)

Almost five years later the top is still so flat that I can barely get
a dollar bill underneath the middle of a straightedge across it the
long way, the dog holes haven't crumbled, and it still serves as a
clamping machine and assembly table. It's not especially long or wide
but it's got a lot of mass.

I've decided to hold off on the new bench till I find something about
this one that I don't like. I put a couple drawers in the center
frame. I've grown very attached to it.

On Sep 23, 11:38=A0am, coloradotrout <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
> sheathing.
>
> When do you use it around the shop?
>
> I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
> plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. =A0At $6 a sheet, seems OSB
> would server the purpose.

On Sep 29, 9:31=A0pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
> >>>>>>http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
> >>>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question
> >>>>> that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's
> >>>>> obvious it isn't?
> >>>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. =A0Thus making it flat.
> >>>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. =A0But it woul=
d
> >>>> not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>
> >>> OK, then How do they orient it?
> >> Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction.
> >> Each of those chunks all lay flat. =A0That is their orintation. =A0(I
> >> guess that means they are straight) =A0;)
>
> >> The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are
> >> big presses at work.
>
> > It's more than just "oriented flat". =A0It's designed so that it's stro=
nger in
> > one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on=
the
> > panels.
>
> I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's rears or
> not. =A0:-)
>
> The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the
> grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want to
> call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same direction on
> each layer they glue down, or "ply."
>
> And it's not stronger in any direction.

Dunno' about that....

http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=3DEN

"Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern yellow
pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the outer
faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the panel
thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis as
compared to the narrow axis."

... or any number of other sources.

"Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening
> silence...
>
> Sorry to confuse you!

Perhaps in this case, random orientation is a reference to the method of
applying the wood chips, not to them pointing in any particular direction
when they're applied. Or perhaps, it was just an obscure name the designing
engineer pulled out of thin air to give to his new process.

No oxymoron there.

I've mainly used it for sheathing and covered it with 30# felt and
siding. Have used it in the shop instead of Sheet Rock as it is better
to fasten stuff to.

Just finished a small chicken coop made of the stuff (primed and
painted inside and out!) and a re-enforcing beam some 18' long to tie
the two walls of my shop and support the (metal - 5V Crimp) roof.
There i ran a 2x10 bottom cord from wall to wall and cut and nailed
and glued triangular sections to the rafters above it and itself, then
ran another 2x10 nailed and glued and bolted to it like a sandwich and
"sandwiched" the rafters above as well. I hope it will tie the tow
walls together nicely and will try removing (it was a pole barn I
expanded) one of the poles that I, now, feel is "in the way."

I think it's best not exposed to the weather as wet, it swells.
Notwithstanding some of the comments I read replying to this post. At
Lowes here in NC, its $5.65 a board and a bit cheaper at the local
materials outlet.

coloradotrout wrote:
> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
> sheathing.
>
> When do you use it around the shop?
>
> I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
> plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB
> would server the purpose.


I'm not sure it's worth the savings.
I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it
takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased.
I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again.

Keep in mind that, in general, one side grips and one side slips, by
design.
It's not something I'd want to be sliding hands or edges of plywood
across, on the grip side.

It also splinters and chips very easily, so depending on manufacture and
cutting blade, can be downright nasty to handle on a cut edge.

For your purpose, I think melamine would be better. It's smooth and
clean and sheets would slide across very easily, and not mark or scratch
against it.


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coloradotrout wrote:
> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
> sheathing.
>
> When do you use it around the shop?

I inherited a pile of OSB cut-offs when I moved into my current shop. I
use it for decks on light-duty pallets, and I've used strips to sticker
rough-sawn wood.

It hasn't been a suitable material for anything else I've done.

> I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
> plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB
> would server the purpose.

It's cheap, but not very durable.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

coloradotrout | 2009-09-23 | 11:38:43 AM wrote:

>It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
>sheathing.
>
>When do you use it around the shop?
>
>I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
>plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB
>would server the purpose.

There's a cedar-only lumber yard in Dallas that panelled their office
in OSB. It's ... unique.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX USA

Jay Pique wrote:

>>> coloradotrout wrote:
>>>> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
>>>> sheathing.

>> My answer to the question is basically one word - NEVER.
>>
>> I won't use the stuff, at any price, for anything.

> We build shipping crates from it all the time. And we also use it for
> vacuum pressing cauls. And we've even used a little bit as door
> panels after we ran it through the widebelt. Funky looking stuff once
> it's sanded smooth and finished with some amber shellac. That was
> just for kicks though.

When my son was in high school and working at Macy Dept Store, he called
me one day and said they were tossing out 5 perfectly nice packing boxes
about 3'x3'x12", and thought I should come get them. He said there has
got to be some use, perhaps build a cat house for a feral cat community
living under my shed. They were made of flake board, the stuff used for
roofing today... I built a two story condo, insulated for the cats, and
with no finish at all, they have survived 7 years outside though harsh
Pittsburgh weather. I thought it would last because I knew a guy that
built a cottage on an island in the the river, sided with untreated
flake board. It lasted 20 years before a flood swept the damn thing
away. The stuff is far more durable than people make out. You can't
leave it contact the ground, or it will swell and rot. It can handle a
ton of weather as long as it can dry out, but thats true of any wood,
other than pressure treated stuff.

Go to my web page, (http://jbstein.com) and in the photo gallery, under
cats, the 4th picture has the cat house I made just by screwing two
packing boxes together. Thing is still in perfect shape, still outside,
12 months a year for 7 or so years....

Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real
doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.

http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg

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"Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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snip
> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the
> panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors.
> Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>
> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg

Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?

"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> snip
>>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
>>> the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real
>>> doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>>
>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>
>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
>> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
>> isn't?
> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not be
> a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>

OK, then How do they orient it?

"FrozenNorth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> LDosser wrote:
>> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> snip
>>>>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
>>>>> the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real
>>>>> doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
>>>> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
>>>> isn't?
>>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
>>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would not
>>> be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>>>
>>
>> OK, then How do they orient it?
>
> Make it in China?

Ah, so!

Lee Michaels wrote:
> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> snip
>>>>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this
>>>>> stuff for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to
>>>>> building real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't
>>>>> bother.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question
>>>> that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's
>>>> obvious it isn't?
>>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
>>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would
>>> not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>>>
>>
>> OK, then How do they orient it?
> Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction.
> Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I
> guess that means they are straight) ;)
>
> The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are
> big presses at work.

It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's stronger in
one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the
panels.

J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question
>>>>> that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's
>>>>> obvious it isn't?
>>>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
>>>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would
>>>> not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>>>>
>>> OK, then How do they orient it?
>> Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction.
>> Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I
>> guess that means they are straight) ;)
>>
>> The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are
>> big presses at work.
>
> It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's stronger in
> one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the
> panels.
>

I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's rears or
not. :-)

The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the
grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want to
call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same direction on
each layer they glue down, or "ply."

And it's not stronger in any direction.


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Neil Brooks wrote:
> On Sep 29, 9:31 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>>>>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question
>>>>>>> that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's
>>>>>>> obvious it isn't?
>>>>>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
>>>>>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would
>>>>>> not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>>>>> OK, then How do they orient it?
>>>> Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction.
>>>> Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I
>>>> guess that means they are straight) ;)
>>>> The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there are
>>>> big presses at work.
>>> It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's stronger in
>>> one direction than in another--that direction will usually be marked on the
>>> panels.
>> I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's rears or
>> not. :-)
>>
>> The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the
>> grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want to
>> call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same direction on
>> each layer they glue down, or "ply."
>>
>> And it's not stronger in any direction.
>
> Dunno' about that....
>
> http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN
>
> "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern yellow
> pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the outer
> faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the panel
> thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis as
> compared to the narrow axis."
>
> ... or any number of other sources.

I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made, the
strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer.

Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything dealing
with evolving technology.


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-MIKE- wrote:
> Neil Brooks wrote:
>> On Sep 29, 9:31 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>>>>>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question
>>>>>>>> that's bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when
>>>>>>>> it's obvious it isn't?
>>>>>>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
>>>>>>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it
>>>>>>> would not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that
>>>>>>> strong.
>>>>>> OK, then How do they orient it?
>>>>> Horizontal plane, as in flat, as opposed to every which direction.
>>>>> Each of those chunks all lay flat. That is their orintation. (I
>>>>> guess that means they are straight) ;)
>>>>> The manufacturing process, I don't know. I am certain that there
>>>>> are big presses at work.
>>>> It's more than just "oriented flat". It's designed so that it's
>>>> stronger in one direction than in another--that direction will
>>>> usually be marked on the panels.
>>> I can't tell if you guys are all blowing smoke up each other's
>>> rears or not. :-)
>>>
>>> The "oriented" means, (as with plywood, where they cross hatch the
>>> grain pattern of each ply) the chips or shreds or whatever you want
>>> to call them in OSB, all have their grain oriented in the same
>>> direction on each layer they glue down, or "ply."
>>>
>>> And it's not stronger in any direction.
>>
>> Dunno' about that....
>>
>> http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN
>>
>> "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern
>> yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the
>> outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the
>> panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis
>> as compared to the narrow axis."
>>
>> ... or any number of other sources.
>
> I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made, the
> strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer.
>
> Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything
> dealing with evolving technology.

It's an engineered product--the strands have whatever orientation give it
the properties that the engineer wants it to have. If they went
north/south, east/west every other layer, whichever orientation was on the
faces that's the orientation of the stronger axis.

LDosser wrote:
> "Jack Stein" wrote in message

>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
>> the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real
>> doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.

>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>
> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
> isn't?

I dunno, I always called it flake board or wafer board, and had the same
question you do. I assume it's supposed to all go in one direction, but
sure doesn't seem to do that, does it? Anyway, the stuff is pretty good
for it's intended purposes. Of interest to me, someone who normally
hates this stuff, I found it OK for doors on my TS bench... surprises
the heck out of me. Even more surprising is in this very thread,
someone else said/did the same thing... Also, I learned long long ago
the stuff is more durable in weather than most people think, just keep
it off the ground.

I think lots of people think of particle board, designed for indoor use
like counter tops as so on, that stuff gets wet, it immediately swells
and falls apart. If glue is not waterproof, it can't get wet. Wood is
waterproof, so if you have a wood product, with waterproof glue, you
should be OK. Of course, there is waterproof, and then there is
waterproof...

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J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> And it's not stronger in any direction.
>>> Dunno' about that....
>>>
>>> http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN
>>>
>>> "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern
>>> yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the
>>> outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the
>>> panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis
>>> as compared to the narrow axis."
>>>
>>> ... or any number of other sources.
>> I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made, the
>> strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer.
>>
>> Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything
>> dealing with evolving technology.
>
> It's an engineered product--the strands have whatever orientation give it
> the properties that the engineer wants it to have. If they went
> north/south, east/west every other layer, whichever orientation was on the
> faces that's the orientation of the stronger axis.
>

I was thinking that it would make sense to have it stronger in the
lengthwise direction, since in its intended application, the width is
supported by trusses and studs.


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Hoosierpopi wrote:
> Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?
>
> "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;"
>
> The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on
> another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting
> panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would
> cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would
> take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined
> up).
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=define+Oriented&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes?
They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all
kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips.
I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam
of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction.


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-MIKE- wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> And it's not stronger in any direction.
>>>> Dunno' about that....
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cwc.ca/Products/OSB/?Language=EN
>>>>
>>>> "Like waferboard, OSB is made of aspen-poplar strands, southern
>>>> yellow pine or mixed hardwood species. However, the strands in the
>>>> outer faces of OSB are normally oriented along the long axis of the
>>>> panel thereby, like plywood, making it stronger along the long axis
>>>> as compared to the narrow axis."
>>>>
>>>> ... or any number of other sources.
>>> I'm not going to argue your source, but when I saw it being made,
>>> the strands went north/south, east/west, every other layer.
>>>
>>> Things may have changed since then, as they often do in anything
>>> dealing with evolving technology.
>>
>> It's an engineered product--the strands have whatever orientation
>> give it the properties that the engineer wants it to have. If they
>> went north/south, east/west every other layer, whichever orientation
>> was on the faces that's the orientation of the stronger axis.
>>
>
> I was thinking that it would make sense to have it stronger in the
> lengthwise direction, since in its intended application, the width is
> supported by trusses and studs.

If it's OSB intended for roof sheathing then that is in fact how it's made.
If it's for wall sheathing then the strength might go the other way. There
will be a marking on the faces that shows the direction of the strength
axis.

"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hoosierpopi wrote:
>> Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?
>>
>> "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;"
>>
>> The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on
>> another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting
>> panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would
>> cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would
>> take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined
>> up).
>>
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=define+Oriented&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
>
>
> Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes?
> They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all
> kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips.
> I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam
> of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction.
>


Magnets. :)

"LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Hoosierpopi wrote:
>>> Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?
>>>
>>> "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;"
>>>
>>> The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on
>>> another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting
>>> panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would
>>> cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would
>>> take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined
>>> up).
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=define+Oriented&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
>>
>>
>> Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes?
>> They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all
>> kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips.
>> I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam
>> of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction.
>>
>
>
> Magnets. :)

wood magnets? try
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriented_strand_board#Manufacturing

"charlie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Hoosierpopi wrote:
>>>> Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?
>>>>
>>>> "adjusted or located in relation to surroundings or circumstances;"
>>>>
>>>> The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on
>>>> another. If they were all "oriented" in one direction, the resulting
>>>> panels would not be as strong in any direction (and the panels would
>>>> cost more thn solid hardwood owing to the time and effort it would
>>>> take to so "orient" each little scrap one so all the grain was lined
>>>> up).
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=define+Oriented&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you seen many industrial manufacturing machines and processes?
>>> They come up with incredibly fast ways to move, locate and place all
>>> kinds of things smaller and lighter than wood chips.
>>> I can't remember how they did it, but when I saw it, the chips all cam
>>> of a conveyor or belt or something, all pointing the same direction.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Magnets. :)
>
> wood magnets? try
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriented_strand_board#Manufacturing
>
>

Nothing in that about magnets. :(

J. Clarke wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>> I was thinking that it would make sense to have it stronger in the
>> lengthwise direction, since in its intended application, the width is
>> supported by trusses and studs.
>
> If it's OSB intended for roof sheathing then that is in fact how it's made.
> If it's for wall sheathing then the strength might go the other way. There
> will be a marking on the faces that shows the direction of the strength
> axis.
>

I was thinking roof or floor.
There isn't really much strength need for wall sheathing, other than
what it takes to help square the wall, and that's in a different
direction altogether. :-)

There are home builders who will use rigid polystyrene sheets for
sheathing, and just use a half sheet of ply/OSB on the corners. please.

If you're a thief, why waste your time with a door, when all you need is
a cordless reciprocating saw to cut a man sized hole in the freakin wall?


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Hoosierpopi wrote:
> Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?

> The chips are "oriented" (albeit randomly) with respect to on
> another.

"Randomly oriented"

Ya gotta love it:-)

Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...

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Upscale wrote:
> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...

> Does *anyone* ever understand what you blather about?

Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening
silence...

Sorry to confuse you!

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Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 1, 12:31 pm, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Upscale wrote:
>>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...
>>> Does *anyone* ever understand what you blather about?
>> Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening
>> silence...
>>
>> Sorry to confuse you!
>>
>
>
> Random orientation is NOT an oxymoron, moron.


/that/ was mature.

:-p


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Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 1, 12:58 pm, -MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>> On Oct 1, 12:31 pm, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Upscale wrote:
>>>>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> Almost as good as deafening silence, or cruel kindness...
>>>>> Does *anyone* ever understand what you blather about?
>>>> Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening
>>>> silence...
>>>> Sorry to confuse you!
>>> Random orientation is NOT an oxymoron, moron.
>> /that/ was mature.
>>
>> :-p
>>
>
> I wasn't sure if I got you with that one... guess I did =0)
>

passive aggressive. :-)


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Upscale wrote:
> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Random orientation is an oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening
>> silence...
>>
>> Sorry to confuse you!
>
> Perhaps in this case, random orientation is a reference to the method of
> applying the wood chips, not to them pointing in any particular direction
> when they're applied.

Doesn't matter. Random denotes no particular direction, and oriented
denotes direction, and using them together in this context is an
oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening silence...

> Or perhaps, it was just an obscure name the designing
> engineer pulled out of thin air to give to his new process.

Perhaps, but not likely. Others have already explained several
possibilities, and none of them are random. My comment however was
simply that the description "randomly oriented" was an oxymoron, and it
is, and a good one. You asked if anyone understood my blather, I took
the time to explain it to you in simple, clear terms even a moron like
Tom or Robocop could understand... Oops!

> No oxymoron there.

Yes, a near perfect example.

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Robatoy wrote:
> On Oct 2, 10:59 am, Jack Stein <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Doesn't matter. Random denotes no particular direction, and oriented
>> denotes direction, and using them together in this context is an
>> oxymoron, just like cruel kindness or deafening silence...


> So.. if one had several thousand woods chips, and tossed them in the
> air, after landing on the ground, some would point this way, some
> would point in another direction...like..point randomly in all
> directions..some N, some NE, some South...randomly...

Brilliant.

> Their orientation would be random, no?

Yes, random.

You know... random orientation?

Yes, and an oxymoron, just like a deafening silence or cruel kindness.

> Or are you one of the Rovian Bushites who can not and will not admit
> they're wrong?

Thats a laugh, coming from you...
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LDosser wrote:
> "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "LDosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> "Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> snip
>>>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff
>>>> for the panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building
>>>> real doors. Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>>>
>>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>>
>>> Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
>>> bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
>>> isn't?
>> Cuz it is oriented in a horizontal plane. Thus making it flat.
>> Apparently there was other ways to orient the chunks. But it would
>> not be a structually sound. Not that OSB is all that strong.
>>
>
> OK, then How do they orient it?

Make it in China?

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> On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:34:42 -0700, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>snip
>>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for
>>> the
>>> panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors.
>>> Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>>
>>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>>
>>Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
>>bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it
>>isn't?
> It's oriented flat. no strands renning surface to surface

It does look random but in a clip I watched on TOH or another show it was
clearly being laid down in a pattern that gave the finished sheet "grain"
that gave it more strength along it's length than across it's width.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriented_strand_board discusses the process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UO_A5a25U4&feature=PlayList&p=E8DFA1D72E95B011&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=5
has a quick shot of the strands being laid down and you can see that they
are oriented... look quick!

John

-MIKE- wrote:

> I used it to line a wall of the shop, because.... it's cheap.... and it
> takes a screw very well. For that, I'm very pleased.
> I've used it as a temporary work table top and would never do that again.

On reason I don't use it for construction is that it does NOT hold
screws or nails over time very well ...

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On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:34:42 -0700, "LDosser" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Jack Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>snip
>> Also, when I built a new bench for my table saw, I used this stuff for the
>> panels, and as temporary doors till I got around to building real doors.
>> Damn, I like the look, and probably won't bother.
>>
>> http://jbstein.com/Flick/TSBench.jpg
>
>Looking at the picture of your bench reminds me of a question that's
>bothered me for years. Why is it called Oriented when it's obvious it isn't?
It's oriented flat. no strands renning surface to surface

coloradotrout wrote:
> It's cheap, it's pretty tough, it's great for wall and roof
> sheathing.
>
> When do you use it around the shop?
>
> I'm thinking to use it to build a sheet storage cart -- basically a
> plaftorm on wheels with an A-frame atop it. At $6 a sheet, seems OSB
> would server the purpose.
When my brother built his shop back in the 80s he used OSB for panelling
in the cabinet doors. It looked pretty good.

Bill