I have mentioned my door problem before, but I'm thinking of building a
'plank' style door for the basement opening of my house. It would have cross
braces of some type, no window. The door would be 70" x 31".
What would one use for material? Is there such a thing as tongue/grooved 1
1/2" lumber?
thanks,
Chas
"Chas12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have mentioned my door problem before, but I'm thinking of building a
> 'plank' style door for the basement opening of my house. It would have
cross
> braces of some type, no window. The door would be 70" x 31".
> What would one use for material? Is there such a thing as tongue/grooved 1
> 1/2" lumber?
That would be what we call a 'Ledge & Brace' door.
there is also a variation known as a framed ledge and brace.
I assume a simple ledge and brace, normally 1" planks, often t&ged,
horizontal pieces (ledges) diagonals simply jointed into them (braces), the
whole thing nailed together. Rustic.
Tim w
1-1/2" thick t&g softwood lumber is sometimes available as decking.
however, the lumber isn't dried for building doors with and the
millwork on the tongues and grooves isn't really suitable for glueup.
if you use this material you'll be better off not gluing the t&g and
relying on the braces for structure. sandwich the t&g between braces on
both sides and bolt through.
Chas12 wrote:
> Sounds like I should get door quality wood and t&g it myself if that's the
> style we end up with. Would Gorilla glue withstand abuse in an exterior
> door?
> Chas
gorilla glue is likely fine. it's a matter of personal preference,
given a glue with water and UV resistance and sufficient open time.
Chas12 wrote:
> Hi gang, you were sure right about the expense to have one made. I called a
> recommended millwork in the area, and he said about $900.
> I have GOT to find some way to make a solid door look nice!!
> Chas
Chas, if your house is tudor style then a nice ledge & brace door would
be very much in keeping with the period. From the outside they are the
same, while a tudor door has boards across the back instead of a
Z-brace.
Here is a nice ledge & brace door
http://www.suigenerisfurniture.co.uk/drlp.htm
You could also google for tudor door and see if there is something else
you like, another variation that looked quite nice was using the t&g to
create a panel, and putting that in a frame. I'd just go ledge & brace
though
Thank you, it seems that ledge and brace is the way to go. I now have to
convince my better half!
Chas
"damian penney" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Chas12 wrote:
>> Hi gang, you were sure right about the expense to have one made. I called
>> a
>> recommended millwork in the area, and he said about $900.
>> I have GOT to find some way to make a solid door look nice!!
>> Chas
>
> Chas, if your house is tudor style then a nice ledge & brace door would
> be very much in keeping with the period. From the outside they are the
> same, while a tudor door has boards across the back instead of a
> Z-brace.
>
> Here is a nice ledge & brace door
> http://www.suigenerisfurniture.co.uk/drlp.htm
>
> You could also google for tudor door and see if there is something else
> you like, another variation that looked quite nice was using the t&g to
> create a panel, and putting that in a frame. I'd just go ledge & brace
> though
>
> > ..... You are surely not asking complete
> > strangers who have never even seen your house or met your wife to tell
you
> > what style of door you ought to build?
>
"Chas12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tim, I fear that is exactly what I'm asking. Isn't it possible on a group
> devoted to woodworking, that someone out there with doorbuilding
experience
> might have an idea? I'm just looking for suggestions, not a remote
> redesigning of my home. If this post is so objectionable to you, please
> don't read it or respond. This newsgroup is for people willing to provide
> help and ideas, without being criticized for having the gall to ask a
> 'stupid' question.
>
You're right, of course and there is nothing to object to. I would help you
myself if I could, in fact if I was in your position I would look at framed
ledge and brace because they need not be rustic, you could avoid difficult
and time consuming mortise and tenons, and you could maybe incorporate a
shape or something from the rest of the house.
Tim w
"Chas12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> However, I STILL don't know what style of door to build!
I fear I still don't understand. You are surely not asking complete
strangers who have never even seen your house or met your wife to tell you
what style of door you ought to build?
Tim w
"Chas12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Thank you, it seems that ledge and brace is the way to go. I now have to
> convince my better half!
> Chas
>
Another variation on the plank door is this one - very Tudor this:
http://www.rmills.co.uk/detail_info.php?code=kc&cat_num=98805&offset=0&displ
ayresults=18&pagtotal=0
The one on the left, ignoring the arches, see how the planks are separated
by a moulding proud of the surface, you could buy that as standard machined
glazing bar.
tim w
"Chas12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ok, then help me out. It has multiple roofs, no mansard, a curved roof
over
> the lr window, stucco exterior. Could be described as a sidehall colonial.
> It was built in 1923.
> I have pix...including photos when it was built.
> Chas
>
Sorry, I have never been to America and my wife has explained to me that
there is no Tudor there, only Tudor Style and likewise no French only French
type and I was probably a little rude.
Tim w
That is a lovely door. One detail I realized about my house that I left out,
is that there are 'roof brackets' (corbels?) that are rather large,
supporting(?) the eaves wherever a gable is located. they are roughly made
of 4x4 lumber. There is no other timber decoration of that type on the house
as one would find with a tudor style.
Chas
Well, I was a little put off, but I appreciate your acknowledgement.
Those of us in America who love house styles of all kinds are very aware of
the fact that our 'traditional' homes are of a particular style, not actual
true examples. Although there are a number of indigenous styles that were
developed here.
However, I STILL don't know what style of door to build!
Chas
Tim, I fear that is exactly what I'm asking. Isn't it possible on a group
devoted to woodworking, that someone out there with doorbuilding experience
might have an idea? I'm just looking for suggestions, not a remote
redesigning of my home. If this post is so objectionable to you, please
don't read it or respond. This newsgroup is for people willing to provide
help and ideas, without being criticized for having the gall to ask a
'stupid' question.
> I fear I still don't understand. You are surely not asking complete
> strangers who have never even seen your house or met your wife to tell you
> what style of door you ought to build?
"Chas12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tim, I fear that is exactly what I'm asking. Isn't it possible on a group
> devoted to woodworking, that someone out there with doorbuilding
experience
> might have an idea? I'm just looking for suggestions, not a remote
> redesigning of my home. If this post is so objectionable to you, please
> don't read it or respond. This newsgroup is for people willing to provide
> help and ideas, without being criticized for having the gall to ask a
> 'stupid' question.
>
>
> > I fear I still don't understand. You are surely not asking complete
> > strangers who have never even seen your house or met your wife to tell
you
> > what style of door you ought to build?
>
>
Ok, another fly in the ointment. I have what could be described as a French
Tudor(1923)-red multiple roofs and stucco exterior. This door will be 2
steps down from the driveway. The rest of the doors in the house are typical
colonial, 6 panel, and 1 panel for the second floor rooms. What style would
you recommend? My wife doesn't want anything too rustic, tho' that is
probably the easiest to build.
Chas
"Chas12" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ok, another fly in the ointment. I have what could be described as a
French
> Tudor(1923)-red multiple roofs and stucco exterior. This door will be 2
> steps down from the driveway. The rest of the doors in the house are
typical
> colonial, 6 panel, and 1 panel for the second floor rooms. What style
would
> you recommend? My wife doesn't want anything too rustic, tho' that is
> probably the easiest to build.
> Chas
>
French Tudor colonial 1923 ?????
do you live in disneyland?
Tim w
Chas12 wrote:
> I have mentioned my door problem before, but I'm thinking of building a
> 'plank' style door for the basement opening of my house. It would have cross
> braces of some type, no window. The door would be 70" x 31".
> What would one use for material? Is there such a thing as tongue/grooved 1
> 1/2" lumber?
> thanks,
> Chas
>
>
Tongue and grooved 2x6 is used for log cabin or timber frame flooring
for 2nd floors to give a finished look from below. Should be available
at a real lumber yard.
Joe