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"joe"

11/11/2003 5:10 PM

need recipe for deep red cherry using dyes

I need a recipe for getting that deep red cherry look using TransTint or
TransFast Dyes, will finish w/ shellac

Thanks



This topic has 9 replies

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

11/11/2003 8:17 PM

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 12:21:17 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tom I'm sure your happy with the color you are getting,
>I would point out that you have a conflict in your formula,
>The Blue and Yellow make green and green kills red.
>This is a basic fundamental on mixing colors
>
>Try working with Black, Yellow and Red you may be able to simplify your
>formula
>Good luck,
>George
>
Thanks, George. I made this formula with what I had on hand at the
time, which did not include black. I'll try it your way some day,
when I've got time.


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

Nn

Nova

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

12/11/2003 6:38 PM

RWM wrote:

> I think that the best place to get the information is to call Jeff
> Jewitt at Homestead Finishing.

Another option would be to buy Jeff's book "Great Wood Finishes". In
it he give the details of his "Colonial Cherry" methods. It involves
the use of dyes, glazes and toners.

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

11/11/2003 12:21 PM

Tom I'm sure your happy with the color you are getting,
I would point out that you have a conflict in your formula,
The Blue and Yellow make green and green kills red.
This is a basic fundamental on mixing colors

Try working with Black, Yellow and Red you may be able to simplify your
formula
Good luck,
George

"Tom Watson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:10:05 GMT, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I need a recipe for getting that deep red cherry look using TransTint or
> >TransFast Dyes, will finish w/ shellac
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
>
> Here's the formula that I start with to make the stain that looks like
> what I call "Showroom Cherry" : 1-1/2 teaspoons of Transtint Medium
> Brown, 3/4 blue, 3/4 yellow, 1/4 red in 8oz of alcohol or water.
>
> Try it on a test piece and then you can mess with the proportions to
> suit. Usually I play aroung with the amount of red.
>
> If you are spraying on the shellac you can use the same formula in one
> quart of shellac as a toner. I use nitro lacquer as a finish and so
> have no problems with the alcohol dye migrating into the finish. I
> don't know if it might do that with shellac.
>
>
> Regards, Tom
> Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
> Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
> http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

Rb

"RWM"

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

11/11/2003 12:55 PM

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[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

11/11/2003 5:23 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I need a recipe for getting that deep red cherry look using TransTint or
>TransFast Dyes, will finish w/ shellac
>
Is there a reason that you have to use those specific dyes?

If you're actually using cherry wood, try two tablespoons of Red Devil lye
dissolved in one pint of water. Wear rubber gloves, and don't splash the stuff
in your eyes.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

BG

"Bob Gramza"

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

11/11/2003 6:21 PM


":
: Here's the formula that I start with to make the stain that looks like
: what I call "Showroom Cherry" : 1-1/2 teaspoons of Transtint Medium
: Brown, 3/4 blue, 3/4 yellow, 1/4 red in 8oz of alcohol or water.
:
: Try it on a test piece and then you can mess with the proportions to
: suit. Usually I play aroung with the amount of red.
:
: If you are spraying on the shellac you can use the same formula in one
: quart of shellac as a toner. I use nitro lacquer as a finish and so
: have no problems with the alcohol dye migrating into the finish. I
: don't know if it might do that with shellac.
:
:
: Regards, Tom
: Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
: Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
: http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson


Thanks for that recipe Tom, I'm going to put that in my archives....

Bob

TW

Tom Watson

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

11/11/2003 6:15 PM

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 17:10:05 GMT, "joe" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I need a recipe for getting that deep red cherry look using TransTint or
>TransFast Dyes, will finish w/ shellac
>
>Thanks
>
>

Here's the formula that I start with to make the stain that looks like
what I call "Showroom Cherry" : 1-1/2 teaspoons of Transtint Medium
Brown, 3/4 blue, 3/4 yellow, 1/4 red in 8oz of alcohol or water.

Try it on a test piece and then you can mess with the proportions to
suit. Usually I play aroung with the amount of red.

If you are spraying on the shellac you can use the same formula in one
quart of shellac as a toner. I use nitro lacquer as a finish and so
have no problems with the alcohol dye migrating into the finish. I
don't know if it might do that with shellac.


Regards, Tom
Thomas J. Watson-Cabinetmaker
Gulph Mills, Pennsylvania
http://users.snip.net/~tjwatson

DF

"David F. Eisan"

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

12/11/2003 12:43 PM

Joe,

I know this is not what you are asking for, but look down a few threads for
one I posted about a cherry clock I am working on. Take a look at it and see
the colour I achieved from fuming with ammonia.

Thanks,

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"RWM"

in reply to "joe" on 11/11/2003 5:10 PM

12/11/2003 2:57 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RWM wrote:
>
> > I think that the best place to get the information is to call Jeff
> > Jewitt at Homestead Finishing.
>
> Another option would be to buy Jeff's book "Great Wood Finishes". In
> it he give the details of his "Colonial Cherry" methods. It involves
> the use of dyes, glazes and toners.
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
You are correct. Jeff has a series of books, and I have not found a bad
one.

Bob McBreen


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