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[email protected] (slindars)

18/11/2004 12:36 PM

Why can't I see my messages on this board

I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
it takes.

How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
another news reader, if so what?

Thanks


This topic has 17 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 2:53 PM

In article <[email protected]>, slindars
<[email protected]> wrote:

> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?

Very few people use Google. Most people use newsreader software (varies
depending on OS) and the news server provided by their ISP.

I use Thoth, running on Mac OS X, and while I can read via shaw.ca (my
ISP) I have an account with supernews.com so I can keep up to date no
matter where I am (home, work, travelling...)

jr

"johnny rotten"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 1:33 AM

Maybe you can't stand your post so much you plonked yer self :)
"slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>
> Thanks

JA

"Joe AutoDrill"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 3:41 PM

What eMail reader do you use?

If it is a "standard" one, try visiting http://news.individual.net and
signing up for a newsgroup account there. No graphics or binaries so it's
all text newsgroups only. But why would anyone want the other stuff anyhow?
:)

--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
http://www.autodrill.com
http://www.multi-spindle-heads.com

V8013


"slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>
> Thanks

Di

Dave in Fairfax

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 12:49 AM

slindars wrote:
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?

I use Netscape and the NNTP host(s) from my ISP(s). They show up
within seconds of being posted, minutes at the longest.

Dave in Fairfax
--
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reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
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http://www.woodturner.org
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http://www.capwoodturners.org/
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JC

"Jack Casuso"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 9:47 PM

I'm reading it through Outlook Express

"slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>
> Thanks

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 10:20 PM


"Leon" wrote

> Have you plonked yourself? Are you on your blocked senders list?
>
Here is what happened to me once. A troll didn't like a comment I made. He
often changed his e-mail addy to foil people plonking him. He knew I was
killfiling him. So he combined my e-mail addy with one of his many screen
personas.

I, and many other folks, killfiled him. But what we all ended up doing was
to killfile me. It took me a while to figure it out. Once I did, i
unkillfiled myself. I told that newsgroup and several folks commented that
they wondered why I disappeared.



JM

John McCoy

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 6:42 PM

Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 18 Nov 2004 12:36:20 -0800, [email protected] (slindars) wrote:
>
>>I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
>>thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
>>never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
>>name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
>>it takes.
>>
>
> OK, so if you can't see your postings or the replies, how are we
> going to
> be able to help you by replying to your question?

What he is saying is he can't see his posts when he views rec.ww as
a group in Google. If he searchs by his name or subject, then he
sees his posts (proving that they're actually there on Google).

I have no idea why that would be happening. Google's understanding
of Usenet is extremely poor, and their Groups software is really
just a (poorly thought out) extension of the search engine into an
archive of posts. Perhaps someone thought it would be a good idea
to set a cookie & not return a posters own posts when browsing a
group.

Anyway, the best solution would be to get a newsreader and access
Usenet on a newsserver. There's a multitude of free newsreaders
(Xnews being very good & popular for Windows), and there are some
free newsservers (news.individual.net being the best). Anyone
trying to use Google for newgroups would be well advised to try
out using a newsreader & server.

John

On

"Ollie"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 11:43 PM

In some occasions I have seen the same symptoms, but in the other way
around. I can read everything in Google, but occasionally my own posts are
not visible in Outlook express.

+++ Ollie

"slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>
> Thanks

tt

"toller"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 12:21 AM

You are posting a message asking why you can't read your own posts or
replies to them?

Ah, if only imagination like that could be put to a useful purpose.

fF

[email protected] (Fred the Red Shirt)

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 11:44 AM

[email protected] (slindars) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>

It can take as long as threee days for articles posted through Google
to show up on Google though NORMALLY it only takes a few hours.

Much of the other advice and questions in this thread are non-equitor,
as you are using Google, which is a Web interface for reading and
posting to Usenet, not an email client and not a newsreader.

You have not plonked yourself because Google does not support killfiles
etc etc.

If, as you say, you can find your articles and replies to them by
searching, then what's the problem? That is the easiest and most
effective way to use Google. Beats scrolling though all the other
subjects in the newsgroup to find your articles.

Google also has occaisional malfunctions that make all recent
articles inaccessible for a few hours at a time.

--

FF

Fj

"FriscoSoxFan"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 11:15 PM

Half and half.

I use google when there is a firewall in the way blocking NNTP. Otherwise, I
use Outlook Express. I have no problem with Google other than the latency. I
find that for rec.woodworking, it updates at about 6:30 AM/PM and 12:30
AM/PM (CST). If I post between 9:30AM and 11:30 AM, I wont see my post until
the 6PM go around (It will miss the noon one). I get far less response from
the google posts, however as most people have KF them per the FAQ.

J

"slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>
> Thanks

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 10:10 PM

On 18 Nov 2004 12:36:20 -0800, [email protected] (slindars) wrote:

>I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
>thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
>never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
>name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
>it takes.
>

OK, so if you can't see your postings or the replies, how are we going to
be able to help you by replying to your question?

>How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
>another news reader, if so what?
>
>Thanks

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 2:36 AM


"Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Oe9nd.50331$V41.28999@attbi_s52...
>>
> Here is what happened to me once. A troll didn't like a comment I made. He
> often changed his e-mail addy to foil people plonking him. He knew I was
> killfiling him. So he combined my e-mail addy with one of his many screen
> personas.
>
> I, and many other folks, killfiled him. But what we all ended up doing was
> to killfile me. It took me a while to figure it out. Once I did, i
> unkillfiled myself. I told that newsgroup and several folks commented that
> they wondered why I disappeared.

I accidentally did it to my self one time.

>
>
>
>

Ww

WoodMangler

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 7:36 PM

toller did say:

> You are posting a message asking why you can't read your own posts or
> replies to them?
>
> Ah, if only imagination like that could be put to a useful purpose.

Did you *plonk* yourself?

--
New project = new tool. Hard and fast rule.

Nd

"NOTME"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 10:53 AM

I just had the same problem. Are you filtering out read messages? In
Outlook express go to "views" and check "show all messages".

Jeff

Sorry for top posting, but wanted to make sure slindars could find what I
replied.
hee-hee


"slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>
> Thanks

Jk

Joe_Stein

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

19/11/2004 3:43 AM

I use Mozilla Thunderbird which is a lot like Outlook Express and my
ISP's newsgroup service (NNTP).
Joe







johnny rotten wrote:

> Maybe you can't stand your post so much you plonked yer self :)
> "slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
>>thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
>>never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
>>name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
>>it takes.
>>
>>How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
>>another news reader, if so what?
>>
>>Thanks
>
>
>

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to [email protected] (slindars) on 18/11/2004 12:36 PM

18/11/2004 9:30 PM

Have you plonked yourself? Are you on your blocked senders list?


"slindars" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I must be doing something wrong here. i'm accessing rec.woodworking
> thru Google Groups. I can read the updates, and post messages but I
> never see the ones I post or the replys in google. If I search my
> name or topic I can find them. Ive waited the 3-6 hours google says
> it takes.
>
> How is everyone else reading this board? Ar eyou using Google or
> another news reader, if so what?
>
> Thanks


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