I want to make some flat panels from one square feet to 8 combining wood and
glass, kinda Frank Lloyd Wright. He did a lot of interior stuff that were
one offers. Room dividers, kitchen/dining areas. I want to make some items
with smaller dimensions of wood, say 1" x 4" and smaller. A lot smaller so
as to hold pieces of glass into place, slide in a routed channel, and serve
as connectors, supports and such.
I'm looking for something that 1.) Stays straight 2.) Easy to cut 3.) Fairly
dense 4.) Has some kind of a grain and 5.) Doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
6.) They will sell small quantities reasonably.
Going to use a lot of routed grooves and square dimensional lumber pieces as
construction method. Dowels at intersections with enough wood, routed
groove, or brad and glue, even plain glue on small stuff.
Thanks.
Steve
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:44:36 PM UTC-7, Morgans wrote:
> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:e8a67dfb-a6=
[email protected]... > On Monday, March 11, 2013 8=
:53:00 PM UTC-7, Steve B wrote: >> I want to make some flat panels from one=
square feet to 8 combining wood >> and glass, kinda Frank Lloyd Wright. He=
did a lot of interior stuff that >> were one offers. Room dividers, kitche=
n/dining areas. I want to make some >> items with smaller dimensions of woo=
d, say 1" x 4" and smaller. A lot >> smaller so as to hold pieces of glass =
into place, slide in a routed >> channel, and serve as connectors, supports=
and such. I'm looking for >> something that 1.) Stays straight 2.) Easy to=
cut 3.) Fairly dense 4.) >> Has some kind of a grain and 5.) Doesn't cost =
an arm and a leg. 6.) They >> will sell small quantities reasonably. Going =
to use a lot of routed >> grooves and square dimensional lumber pieces as c=
onstruction method. >> Dowels at intersections with enough wood, routed gro=
ove, or brad and >> glue, even plain glue on small stuff. Thanks. Steve > >=
Use Poplar. Low cost, stable, straight, easy to mill. It is a little soft =
> and has kind of a green\yellow tint but even the lightest staining covers=
> that. It takes all stains and dyes well although it will blotch some if =
> not careful. You can find it everywhere, including Home Depot. Are you ki=
dding? Poplar is guaranteed to warp and twist if you use it to make a door =
or anything that is not securely captured on all sides. Basswood. Stable. -=
- Jim in NC
What?
Somebody be selling you same badly cared for wood. Properly logged amd mill=
ed Poplar is one of the most stable woods I have ever worled with.
On Monday, March 11, 2013 10:53:00 PM UTC-5, Steve B wrote:
> I want to make some items=20
> with smaller dimensions of wood, say 1" x 4" and smaller. A lot smaller =
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> I'm looking for something that 1.) Stays straight 2.) Easy to cut 3.) Fai=
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> dense 4.) Has some kind of a grain and 5.) Doesn't cost an arm and a leg.=
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> 6.) They will sell small quantities reasonably.
As already mentioned, poplar would be good. Also maple. Hard or soft mapl=
e. Its sort of straight, although it has grain in it. Easy to cut, especi=
ally soft. No grain, which I think is what you want. With small pieces yo=
u do not want the grain overpowering the piece. You want straight bland gr=
ain with small pieces. Not terribly expensive, especially soft. Small qua=
ntities are sold. You can stain it but it will always be kind of light col=
ored. Even dark stain does not turn it dark. Oak would be bad. Too much =
grain pattern for small pieces. The whole piece will be grainy wood.
On 3/12/2013 7:45 PM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:44:36 PM UTC-7, Morgans wrote:
>> "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > On Monday, March 11, 2013 8:53:00 PM UTC-7, Steve B wrote: >> I want to make some flat panels from one square feet to 8 combining wood >> and glass, kinda Frank Lloyd Wright. He did a lot of interior stuff that >> were one offers. Room dividers, kitchen/dining areas. I want to make some >> items with smaller dimensions of wood, say 1" x 4" and smaller. A lot >> smaller so as to hold pieces of glass into place, slide in a routed >> channel, and serve as connectors, supports and such. I'm looking for >> something that 1.) Stays straight 2.) Easy to cut 3.) Fairly dense 4.) >> Has some kind of a grain and 5.) Doesn't cost an arm and a leg. 6.) They >> will sell small quantities reasonably. Going to use a lot of routed >> grooves and square dimensional lumber pieces as construction method. >> Dowels at intersections with enough wood, routed groove, or brad and >> g
lue, even plain glue on small stuff. Thanks. Steve > > Use Poplar. Low cost, stable, straight, easy to mill. It is a little soft > and has kind of a green\yellow tint but even the lightest staining covers > that. It takes all stains and dyes well although it will blotch some if > not careful. You can find it everywhere, including Home Depot. Are you kidding? Poplar is guaranteed to warp and twist if you use it to make a door or anything that is not securely captured on all sides. Basswood. Stable. -- Jim in NC
>
> What?
> Somebody be selling you same badly cared for wood. Properly logged amd milled Poplar is one of the most stable woods I have ever worled with.
>
I agree, I find it very stable. so did most cabinet makers 70 years ago.
The runners and webing are usually poplar from that era.
--
Jeff
On Monday, March 11, 2013 8:53:00 PM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
> I want to make some flat panels from one square feet to 8 combining wood =
and glass, kinda Frank Lloyd Wright. He did a lot of interior stuff that we=
re one offers. Room dividers, kitchen/dining areas. I want to make some ite=
ms with smaller dimensions of wood, say 1" x 4" and smaller. A lot smaller =
so as to hold pieces of glass into place, slide in a routed channel, and se=
rve as connectors, supports and such. I'm looking for something that 1.) St=
ays straight 2.) Easy to cut 3.) Fairly dense 4.) Has some kind of a grain =
and 5.) Doesn't cost an arm and a leg. 6.) They will sell small quantities =
reasonably. Going to use a lot of routed grooves and square dimensional lum=
ber pieces as construction method. Dowels at intersections with enough wood=
, routed groove, or brad and glue, even plain glue on small stuff. Thanks. =
Steve
Use Poplar. Low cost, stable, straight, easy to mill. It is a little soft a=
nd has kind of a green\yellow tint but even the lightest staining covers th=
at. It takes all stains and dyes well although it will blotch some if not c=
areful. You can find it everywhere, including Home Depot.
Steve B wrote:
> I want to make some flat panels from one square feet to 8 combining
> wood and glass, kinda Frank Lloyd Wright. He did a lot of interior
> stuff that were one offers. Room dividers, kitchen/dining areas. I
> want to make some items with smaller dimensions of wood, say 1" x 4"
> and smaller. A lot smaller so as to hold pieces of glass into place,
> slide in a routed channel, and serve as connectors, supports and such.
>
> I'm looking for something that 1.) Stays straight 2.) Easy to cut 3.)
> Fairly dense 4.) Has some kind of a grain and 5.) Doesn't cost an arm
> and a leg. 6.) They will sell small quantities reasonably.
>
> Going to use a lot of routed grooves and square dimensional lumber
> pieces as construction method. Dowels at intersections with enough
> wood, routed groove, or brad and glue, even plain glue on small stuff.
Poplar should work fine, ditto oak, the latter being considerably harder.
Both are available at HD/Lowes but the oak is likely to be red oak rather
than white. White is better IMO
The oak grain is much stronger (more obvious) than poplar.
--
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> On Monday, March 11, 2013 8:53:00 PM UTC-7, Steve B wrote:
>> I want to make some flat panels from one square feet to 8 combining wood
>> and glass, kinda Frank Lloyd Wright. He did a lot of interior stuff that
>> were one offers. Room dividers, kitchen/dining areas. I want to make some
>> items with smaller dimensions of wood, say 1" x 4" and smaller. A lot
>> smaller so as to hold pieces of glass into place, slide in a routed
>> channel, and serve as connectors, supports and such. I'm looking for
>> something that 1.) Stays straight 2.) Easy to cut 3.) Fairly dense 4.)
>> Has some kind of a grain and 5.) Doesn't cost an arm and a leg. 6.) They
>> will sell small quantities reasonably. Going to use a lot of routed
>> grooves and square dimensional lumber pieces as construction method.
>> Dowels at intersections with enough wood, routed groove, or brad and
>> glue, even plain glue on small stuff. Thanks. Steve
>
> Use Poplar. Low cost, stable, straight, easy to mill. It is a little soft
> and has kind of a green\yellow tint but even the lightest staining covers
> that. It takes all stains and dyes well although it will blotch some if
> not careful. You can find it everywhere, including Home Depot.
Are you kidding? Poplar is guaranteed to warp and twist if you use it to
make a door or anything that is not securely captured on all sides.
Basswood. Stable.
--
Jim in NC