The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
'feedback'.
NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Missing.jpg
[email protected] wrote:
> Wow. All praise, I hope!
Actually, a lot of kidding.
I was the rookie back then, so most of it was good natured.
Lew
Looks like some ones watching over you. Glad to hear the leather stopped it
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
> like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
> 'feedback'.
> NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Missing.jpg
>
On May 4, 3:31 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
> like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
> 'feedback'.
> NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Missing.jpg
What brand of bit is that? Tom
On May 4, 5:31 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
> like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
> 'feedback'.
> NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
That had to be a heart stopper. I've never had it happen, but I have
heard stories...
So be honest; does pee come out of leather without sending it out to
be cleaned?
;^))
Robert
On May 5, 4:01 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On May 4, 5:31 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> > The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
> > like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
> > 'feedback'.
> > NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> That had to be a heart stopper. I've never had it happen, but I have
> heard stories...
>
> So be honest; does pee come out of leather without sending it out to
> be cleaned?
hehehe..had I had time to whizz my shorts, I may have. But you know,
in the world of snap/zing/ching/clang/ching/brzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzr one
has little time the relieve oneself.
This bit had been sharpened once by the factory (Royce-Ayr) as had the
other one like it. This was the first time I used it after it came
back. It may have been dinged in transit..and I am very careful with
these bits as they are stupid-money.
Oh well, the next quote for full 1-1/2" bullnose solid surface just
went up.
And, to answer another's question, I do use them hand-held with a 1/2"
thick, 10" x 10" router base. You canNOT rock the router whilst doing
an edge like that so the big base sorta-kinda works like an upside-
down routertable. To push an 150 pound 10-foot countertop through a
stationary table..well...it will not work, especially an L-shaped
countertop. That inside corner is a killer. After 20+ years, it still
makes me a little nervous.
Maybe I should get one of these 5 HP induction motor routers...
http://granquartzcanada.com/products.aspx?category=3
On May 5, 8:53 am, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>
> | The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> | The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my
> | hands... like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting
> | some 'feedback'.
> | NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> I'm glad /you/ weren't damaged.
>
> Y'know, I've always felt silly wheeling my little rolling wall to
> shield me from bit fragments when I thought a CNC routing operation
> might be even a _little_ risky - and suddenly I don't feel so silly
> anymore...
>
> A dab of Bondo and you'll be back in business... ;-)
>
...a little aluminum paint..who'll know, eh? <G>
I agree with the scatter-shield idea. That little scab of carbide was
a bit scary..imagine the whole thing snapping off at the shaft... a
pound of crazed, carbide metal looking for a target at 8,000 RPM.
Maybe I should upgrade to a kevlar apron.. although sopranos do all
get all the good parts in an opera. But yet, I can't imagine any
Viking helmets with any styling to them.
Ducking behind a wall was always comforting during hand grenade
practice, although a nuclear hand grenade may be of some concern.
(After several hundred failed trials, research has since proven that
the average soldier doesn't quite have enough 'arm' to lob one of them
far enough.)
On May 5, 12:17 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On May 5, 4:01 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 4, 5:31 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> > > The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
> > > like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
> > > 'feedback'.
> > > NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> > That had to be a heart stopper. I've never had it happen, but I have
> > heard stories...
>
> > So be honest; does pee come out of leather without sending it out to
> > be cleaned?
>
> hehehe..had I had time to whizz my shorts, I may have. But you know,
> in the world of snap/zing/ching/clang/ching/brzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzrzr one
> has little time the relieve oneself.
> This bit had been sharpened once by the factory (Royce-Ayr) as had the
> other one like it. This was the first time I used it after it came
> back. It may have been dinged in transit..and I am very careful with
> these bits as they are stupid-money.
>
> Oh well, the next quote for full 1-1/2" bullnose solid surface just
> went up.
>
> And, to answer another's question, I do use them hand-held with a 1/2"
> thick, 10" x 10" router base. You canNOT rock the router whilst doing
> an edge like that so the big base sorta-kinda works like an upside-
> down routertable. To push an 150 pound 10-foot countertop through a
> stationary table..well...it will not work, especially an L-shaped
> countertop. That inside corner is a killer. After 20+ years, it still
> makes me a little nervous.
>
> Maybe I should get one of these 5 HP induction motor routers...
>
> http://granquartzcanada.com/products.aspx?category=3
http://granquartzcanada.com/products.aspx?category=3#Diarex%20Magnum
On May 5, 1:24 pm, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5 May 2007 09:27:48 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On May 5, 8:53 am, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Robatoy wrote:
>
> >> | The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> >> | The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my
> >> | hands... like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting
> >> | some 'feedback'.
> >> | NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> >> I'm glad /you/ weren't damaged.
>
> >> Y'know, I've always felt silly wheeling my little rolling wall to
> >> shield me from bit fragments when I thought a CNC routing operation
> >> might be even a _little_ risky - and suddenly I don't feel so silly
> >> anymore...
>
> >> A dab of Bondo and you'll be back in business... ;-)
>
> >...a little aluminum paint..who'll know, eh? <G>
>
> >I agree with the scatter-shield idea. That little scab of carbide was
> >a bit scary..imagine the whole thing snapping off at the shaft... a
> >pound of crazed, carbide metal looking for a target at 8,000 RPM.
>
> Just to sort of set you mind at ease: I've had a 1/4" roundover bit snap
> at the shaft while routing. The bit does *not* go flying all over
> creation. It just sort of stops where it is at and falls down. Now, maybe
> if you have something with a lot of mass you may get some of the momentum
> to translate into motion, but it appears that since the bit is embedded in
> the wood, once you take away the energy spinning it, all motion comes to a
> stop pretty quickly.
That bit in question is spinning mostly in free air, except where it
contacts the edge of the countertop. I had a 1-1/8" x 1- 1/2" 3-flute
straight bit break on me once.. it planted itself nicely into a
plywood wall..again. it was running along an edge, not captive in
wood.
>
> >Maybe I should upgrade to a kevlar apron.. although sopranos do all
> >get all the good parts in an opera. But yet, I can't imagine any
> >Viking helmets with any styling to them.
>
> Yikes! I like my sopranos with cleavage, thank-you.
I like them with cone-shaped brass tits.
On May 5, 1:27 pm, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> >http://granquartzcanada.com/products.aspx?category=3
>
> Diarex. Sounds like an anti diarrhea device. Is that because it makes your
> asshole pucker when you use it? :)
Here we go for the low hanging fruit again, eh?
On May 5, 1:58 pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
I was going to keep away from this as it usually invokes the
academically inclined to argue "the tangenital point of release from a
rotating object" arguement rather than the
WTF-just-happened-I-think-something-whizzed-by-my-frikkin'-leg guys
that use machines a lot.
I have been using a roundover bit that shed a piece of carbide. It
did not slowly come to a stop. It came immediately to a stop in my
leg. Not having the sectional density to maintain and transfer
energy, it went through the denim and just barely went in my leg. It
was easily removed with the point of my pocket knife, and was only
about 3/16" in my leg. No big deal. But a real reminder about
wearing those safety glasses.
I have a buddy that made (subbed out) small cabinets in his garage
that had a large chunk come off a CMT bit that was mounted in his
router table. He knew how to use it, and had been using the CMT for a
while.
So the chunk of carbide came off his panel profiling "helicopter" bit
and went though the back of his fence and dust collection hose, and
all the way through the sheetrock in the garage wall. The insulation
made a nice save and held the chunk securely after wall penetration.
His router/table reacted so violently that he thought something had
gone wrong with the machine, and didn't get to the bit until he calmed
down.
If it had let go at the end of a cut where the bit cutter had been at
6:30 or 7 o'clock instead of 1 o'clock, his life might be very
different right now.
The good new is that after inspecting the bit and large chip, CMT sent
him a new bit.
As a sidebar, I rarely make any raised panels, but after the
helicopter bit crash the insanity of spinning one of those large bits
seemed to me beyond my comfort level. I bought a vertical bit and it
runs smoother and seems a whole lot safer.
> I keep getting the image of that classic Clint Eastwood >western. He had a stove door hanging off the front of him >underneath a mexican blanket.
Almost as good for all of us, all you need is Clint's poncho:
http://www.wilsonindustries.com/pdf/Wilson_May03Fab.pdf
It takes a minute to load, but it is worth a look. Especially if you
are a garage worker that might be sharing the "shop" with other family
members. Or like Morris, use a CNC.
Robert
On May 5, 3:25 pm, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
SNIP
> Several fan blades ended up being driven into the 2x4's during the tests.
>
> Solved the problem and nobody got hurt in the process, but that box
> generated it's share of comments.
>
> Lew
Wow. All praise, I hope!
Robert
On May 5, 7:51 pm, Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Markem wrote:
>
> > Do they make bullet proof cups?
>
> Knitted glass, epoxy and Airex foam will create a structure that stops
> a copper jacketed .357 Mag at 20 ft.
>
Wow..how thick is that sandwich?
On May 6, 9:20 am, "Jim Northey" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:mM8%[email protected]...
>
> > Markem wrote:
>
> > > Do they make bullet proof cups?
>
> > Knitted glass, epoxy and Airex foam will create a structure that stops a
> > copper jacketed .357 Mag at 20 ft.
>
> > I have the test sample from my boat to prove it.<G>
>
> > Lew
>
> Some one must be real protective of their fishing hole if you had to make
> a bullet proof boat.
> Jim
Yeah... it would be just like Lew to trailer his 55-foot ketch to a
lake to go fishing...<G>
Personally, I think he's more worried about pirates in the Madagascar
Straight.
On May 7, 10:47 am, "dabears525" <[email protected]> wrote:
> From the looks of that clean break in the carbide, it looks like it was a
> flaw in the carbide tip.
> I worked in the carbide industry for 30 yrs and when it's a clean smooth
> surface, like your picture, that's an internal flaw in the carbide tip.
> Probably a microscopic crack in
> the material. If surface of the break was rough, then you would have hit
> something to fracture it.
> Send it back, they owe you a new one.
> Glad you didn't get hurt.
>
Thanks for that input. As expected, the fabulous people at Royce-Ayr
have sent me a new one, no questions.
Robatoy wrote:
| The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
| The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my
| hands... like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting
| some 'feedback'.
| NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
I'm glad /you/ weren't damaged.
Y'know, I've always felt silly wheeling my little rolling wall to
shield me from bit fragments when I thought a CNC routing operation
might be even a _little_ risky - and suddenly I don't feel so silly
anymore...
A dab of Bondo and you'll be back in business... ;-)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Mark & Juanita wrote:
| Just to sort of set you mind at ease: I've had a 1/4" roundover
| bit snap at the shaft while routing. The bit does *not* go flying
| all over creation. It just sort of stops where it is at and falls
| down. Now, maybe if you have something with a lot of mass you may
| get some of the momentum to translate into motion, but it appears
| that since the bit is embedded in the wood, once you take away the
| energy spinning it, all motion comes to a stop pretty quickly.
That's somewhat reassuring - and matches my own experience. I've
managed to break six bits so far - three of 'em in one day! They were
all straight bits, and four were carbide up-spirals. In every instance
the breakage was due to operator error and/or inexperience - and in
each instance the broken-off portion was left sitting at the end of
the cut.
I also had a 1/2" up-spiral climb down out of the collet. That was a
bit more spectacular, with a shower of sparks and a sudden wrenching
that made the half-ton 'Bot jerk. It gouged the MDF table top, but
only traveled about two inches. I retired both bit and collet (both
were scarred) and became really fussy about making sure that bits and
collets both are clean and oil-free before use.
Still, I can't help but like Rob's Kevlar shop apron idea. :-)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Lee Michaels wrote:
| "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote
||
|| Still, I can't help but like Rob's Kevlar shop apron idea. :-)
||
| Two problems with the kevlar idea.
|
| 1) Kevlar does not stop sharp edges. Which is why they don't stop
| knives (or arrows). And you can be sure that the carbide on a
| router bit has a sharp edge on it.
|
| 2) Kevlar still allows blunt trauma. If a big chunk of
| metal/carbide were to hit you at a high rate of speed, it would be
| nice if the protection wasn't flexible. You still end up absorbing
| the hit, even with kevlar.
Understood - a friend once loaded up a black powder rifle and had me
put a hand-cast lead ball through a cast iron stove lid. There wasn't
any sharp involved, but the softer blunt ball punched its way through
the iron impressively.
| If you were going to create a sheild, I would suggest something
| solid, either on the tool itself or hanging off the front of you.
That's how it's set up in my shop. The 'Bot has 1/4" steel sides, and
I built a rolling wall (2x4 frame to support the plywood "wall", all
on casters) to move between myself and the bit. It's not exactly
armor-plate, but I don't (and won't) use massy bits on that machine.
| I keep getting the image of that classic Clint Eastwood western.
| He had a stove door hanging off the front of him underneath a
| mexican blanket.
Ok for the movies - but my experience with the long rifle and stove
lid leads me to hope that the bad guys had cap guns. :-)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:36:22 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Robatoy wrote:
>
> > And, to answer another's question, I do use them hand-held with a 1/2"
> > thick, 10" x 10" router base. You canNOT rock the router whilst doing
> > an edge like that so the big base sorta-kinda works like an upside-
> > down routertable. To push an 150 pound 10-foot countertop through a
> > stationary table..well...it will not work, especially an L-shaped
> > countertop. That inside corner is a killer. After 20+ years, it still
> > makes me a little nervous.
>
>Suspected it was something like that.
>
>As long as you are fabricating a special base, why not add a shield to
>protect you from the bit?
>
>Along the lines of the shield used on a right angle grinder.
>
>Maybe half of a pipe coupling or similar.
>
>Routers scare the hell out of me.
>
>They probably won't kill you, but they can certainly do a lot of damage.
Do they make bullet proof cups?
Mark
On Sun, 06 May 2007 00:02:39 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Robatoy wrote:
>
>> Wow..how thick is that sandwich?
>
>The secret is the Airex foam, since it captures the slug.
>
>Total sandwich is about 1-1/2" consisting of 1/4" knitted glass skins
>and 1" Airex core.
A cup made of that sandwich would make Sigfried and Roy jealous!
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> http://granquartzcanada.com/products.aspx?category=3
>
>
Diarex. Sounds like an anti diarrhea device. Is that because it makes your
asshole pucker when you use it? :)
Robatoy wrote:
> The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
> like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
> 'feedback'.
> NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Missing.jpg
>
Looking at the picture, looks like a fairly large bit.
Was there any specific reason you were using a hand held router rather
than a table?
BTW, better lucky than good any day<G>.
Lew
From the looks of that clean break in the carbide, it looks like it was a
flaw in the carbide tip.
I worked in the carbide industry for 30 yrs and when it's a clean smooth
surface, like your picture, that's an internal flaw in the carbide tip.
Probably a microscopic crack in
the material. If surface of the break was rough, then you would have hit
something to fracture it.
Send it back, they owe you a new one.
Glad you didn't get hurt.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
> The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my hands...
> like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting some
> 'feedback'.
> NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>
> http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/Missing.jpg
>
"Lee Michaels" wrote:
> I was going to keep away from this as it usually invokes the
> academically inclined to argue "the tangenital point of release from a
> rotating object" arguement rather than the
>
> WTF-just-happened-I-think-something-whizzed-by-my-frikkin'-leg guys
> that use machines a lot.
In the SFWIW category:
Once spent some time as a vibration research engineer for heavy duty
DC machinery for trucks and buses.
Had a problem with alternators throwing cooling fan blades under
certain conditions.
Built a box from 2x4's turned on edge and complete with s viewing
window from "bullet proof" safety glass.
Equipped box with casters and would push it in place surrounding
alternator mounted on test stand, then start increasing alternator RPM
until fan failed.
Several fan blades ended up being driven into the 2x4's during the tests.
Solved the problem and nobody got hurt in the process, but that box
generated it's share of comments.
Lew
Lee Michaels wrote:
> "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote
>> Still, I can't help but like Rob's Kevlar shop apron idea. :-)
>>
> Two problems with the kevlar idea.
>
> 1) Kevlar does not stop sharp edges. Which is why they don't stop knives (or
> arrows). And you can be sure that the carbide on a router bit has a sharp
> edge on it.
Which is why they use it to make gloves for woodcarvers? Actually, I
believe the problem with Kevlar and knives, arrows, etc. is that the
design allows those long pointy thingies to push between the woven
material and part it, allowing their passage. Doubt that an errant
piece of carbide would have the mass, trajectory and energy to make it
past. As for blunt trauma... If the whole bit went flying and it you,
that might well be a concern. That little piece that Robatoy "lost"
probably would have hardly been felt against a leather, let alone
Kevlar, apron.
> 2) Kevlar still allows blunt trauma. If a big chunk of metal/carbide were
> to hit you at a high rate of speed, it would be nice if the protection
> wasn't flexible. You still end up absorbing the hit, even with kevlar.
True but a guy I know who tested his 2nd Chance vest said the bruising
wasn't all that bad when compared to being shot<g>
> I keep getting the image of that classic Clint Eastwood western. He had a
> stove door hanging off the front of him underneath a mexican blanket.
Loose Mexican blanket in the shop? Sounds like a definite safety
hazard. Imagine the damage that thing could do if it got caught up in
Morris's bot! The damage from the bowls of salsa and taco chips that
were sitting on it alone could wreak havoc with the shop's occupants.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> That had to be a heart stopper. I've never had it happen, but I have
> heard stories...
> So be honest; does pee come out of leather without sending it out to
> be cleaned?
I'm guessing that when you see some guy walking around with all the blood
drained from his face, you'll know who you're looking at. :)
"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> Still, I can't help but like Rob's Kevlar shop apron idea. :-)
>
Two problems with the kevlar idea.
1) Kevlar does not stop sharp edges. Which is why they don't stop knives (or
arrows). And you can be sure that the carbide on a router bit has a sharp
edge on it.
2) Kevlar still allows blunt trauma. If a big chunk of metal/carbide were
to hit you at a high rate of speed, it would be nice if the protection
wasn't flexible. You still end up absorbing the hit, even with kevlar.
If you were going to create a sheild, I would suggest something solid,
either on the tool itself or hanging off the front of you.
I keep getting the image of that classic Clint Eastwood western. He had a
stove door hanging off the front of him underneath a mexican blanket.
On 5 May 2007 09:27:48 -0700, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>On May 5, 8:53 am, "Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>
>> | The piece ricocheted around for a bit... thank you leather apron.
>> | The sudden imbalance vibrated the router darn near out of my
>> | hands... like Donal Duck hitting a tree with a stick and getting
>> | some 'feedback'.
>> | NO idea why the carbide let go..I didn't hit anything.
>>
>> I'm glad /you/ weren't damaged.
>>
>> Y'know, I've always felt silly wheeling my little rolling wall to
>> shield me from bit fragments when I thought a CNC routing operation
>> might be even a _little_ risky - and suddenly I don't feel so silly
>> anymore...
>>
>> A dab of Bondo and you'll be back in business... ;-)
>>
>...a little aluminum paint..who'll know, eh? <G>
>
>I agree with the scatter-shield idea. That little scab of carbide was
>a bit scary..imagine the whole thing snapping off at the shaft... a
>pound of crazed, carbide metal looking for a target at 8,000 RPM.
Just to sort of set you mind at ease: I've had a 1/4" roundover bit snap
at the shaft while routing. The bit does *not* go flying all over
creation. It just sort of stops where it is at and falls down. Now, maybe
if you have something with a lot of mass you may get some of the momentum
to translate into motion, but it appears that since the bit is embedded in
the wood, once you take away the energy spinning it, all motion comes to a
stop pretty quickly.
>Maybe I should upgrade to a kevlar apron.. although sopranos do all
>get all the good parts in an opera. But yet, I can't imagine any
>Viking helmets with any styling to them.
>
Yikes! I like my sopranos with cleavage, thank-you.
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Robatoy wrote:
> And, to answer another's question, I do use them hand-held with a 1/2"
> thick, 10" x 10" router base. You canNOT rock the router whilst doing
> an edge like that so the big base sorta-kinda works like an upside-
> down routertable. To push an 150 pound 10-foot countertop through a
> stationary table..well...it will not work, especially an L-shaped
> countertop. That inside corner is a killer. After 20+ years, it still
> makes me a little nervous.
Suspected it was something like that.
As long as you are fabricating a special base, why not add a shield to
protect you from the bit?
Along the lines of the shield used on a right angle grinder.
Maybe half of a pipe coupling or similar.
Routers scare the hell out of me.
They probably won't kill you, but they can certainly do a lot of damage.
Lew
On Sat, 05 May 2007 23:51:46 GMT, Lew Hodgett
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Markem wrote:
>
> > Do they make bullet proof cups?
>
>Knitted glass, epoxy and Airex foam will create a structure that stops
>a copper jacketed .357 Mag at 20 ft.
>
>I have the test sample from my boat to prove it.<G>
But strapping a boat to ones crotch is problematic.....
<BG>
Mark
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Markem wrote:
>
> > Do they make bullet proof cups?
>
> Knitted glass, epoxy and Airex foam will create a structure that stops a
> copper jacketed .357 Mag at 20 ft.
>
> I have the test sample from my boat to prove it.<G>
>
> Lew
Some one must be real protective of their fishing hole if you had to make
a bullet proof boat.
Jim