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"Boots"

24/03/2005 2:40 PM

rust removal

I just found an old Stanly plane that I have had for a long
time and it has some rust on it. What is the best way to
remove the rust? I would like to use the plane again

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b


This topic has 17 replies

Gw

Guess who

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

24/03/2005 4:48 PM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:40:44 -0600, "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I just found an old Stanly plane that I have had for a long
>time and it has some rust on it. What is the best way to
>remove the rust? I would like to use the plane again

Just be sure the blade's out etc.. :-)

It's pretty tough metal, and depends on the amount of rust. Is it
pitted, or just surface? I've cleaned up planes really nicely using
emery cloth and elbow grease. If really rusty, but not too pitted I
start with a coarser grain, even an old flat sharpening stone that
will wear a lot faster than the metal. I've had some good results,
and even did one about 14" long [?] ...not sure, a long time back. It
had grooves along the bottom. I even repainted it, then gave it to a
person who is a fine old-time cabinet maker who had a better use for
it than I did. He still uses it.

CS

"Charlie Self"

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

25/03/2005 8:11 AM

Larry Jaques writes:
>>It's strong, so be sure to neutralize afterward. Muriatic is dilute
hycrochloric acid. Use it outside. The fumes are nasty. <<

OK if I just leave the bathroom window open? I'm not up for hauling
the crapper outside just to get some rust off.

But I wonder what the stuff, even neutralized, will do to my septic
tank.

j

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

25/03/2005 9:08 PM


As usual, Woodcraft gives you a good cornholing on price - $5.50. They
are $3.95 at McFeeleys. Is it just me, or is Woodcraft getting worse
and worse on the gouging?


>
> I use the rubber hand blocks from Woodcraft
> http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=7329

BF

"Buck Frobisher"

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

24/03/2005 4:37 PM

"Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>I just found an old Stanly plane that I have had for a long
> time and it has some rust on it. What is the best way to
> remove the rust? I would like to use the plane again
>
> --
> b

Try Electrolysis. See this link:
http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/rust/electrolytic_derusting.htm

Bb

"Boots"

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

24/03/2005 4:41 PM

it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use to
clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)
"Guess who" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:40:44 -0600, "Boots"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I just found an old Stanly plane that I have had for a long
>time and it has some rust on it. What is the best way to
>remove the rust? I would like to use the plane again

Just be sure the blade's out etc.. :-)

It's pretty tough metal, and depends on the amount of rust.
Is it
pitted, or just surface? I've cleaned up planes really
nicely using
emery cloth and elbow grease. If really rusty, but not too
pitted I
start with a coarser grain, even an old flat sharpening
stone that
will wear a lot faster than the metal. I've had some good
results,
and even did one about 14" long [?] ...not sure, a long time
back. It
had grooves along the bottom. I even repainted it, then
gave it to a
person who is a fine old-time cabinet maker who had a better
use for
it than I did. He still uses it.

Bb

"Boots"

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

03/04/2005 7:29 PM

muriatic acid will clean the rust so the metal looks like
new

"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in
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news:[email protected]...
"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>
>
>
> "Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>
news:[email protected]...
>> "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
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>> > it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use
to
>> > clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)
>>
> muriatic acid
>

I knew the name. I think it's a very bad idea, however.

Patriarch,
who has scrubbed a few bricks and blocks in his youth.

ll

lgb

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

24/03/2005 7:57 PM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> I just found an old Stanly plane that I have had for a long
> time and it has some rust on it. What is the best way to
> remove the rust? I would like to use the plane again
>
For light rust, I've had good luck with TurtleWax Chrome Polish and Rust
Remover or the equivalent. Some metal polishes that make no mention of
rust removal also work.

If it's a little heavier salted vinegar makes a weak acid that works,
but oil or wax it as soon as it comes out of the solution or it'll start
rerusting almost immediately.

And if all else fails, there's always electrolysis.

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

24/03/2005 7:13 PM

"Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use to
> clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)

Why not start by working it over with some kerosene and a shop rag, and see
how it looks when you get done? Then let it dry, and paste wax everything,
sharpen & hone the blade, adjust it, and put it to work.

Save the major chemicals for later, if you aren't happy with the results.

Patriarch

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

25/03/2005 12:38 AM

"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in news:d1vqht0es5
@enews2.newsguy.com:

>
>
>
>
> "Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>> > it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use to
>> > clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)
>>
> muriatic acid
>

I knew the name. I think it's a very bad idea, however.

Patriarch,
who has scrubbed a few bricks and blocks in his youth.

Pg

Patriarch

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

03/04/2005 11:27 PM

Phisherman <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Maybe. Acid dissolves metal, so if the acid were used improperly it
> could pit a metal surface. My preference is to use kerosene,
> sandpaper, and elbow grease.
>
> On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:29:33 -0500, "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> muriatic acid will clean the rust so the metal looks like
>>new
>>
>

Or you could (sand)blast it with walnut shell powder, or with baking soda.
But kerosene and a little 400 grit will do everything needed, as Phisherman
says, and has the virtue of being cheap to implement, hard to screw up and
relatively safe to the operator.

Just don't use acetone! (g,d&r!)

Patriarch

ND

"Norman D. Crow"

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

24/03/2005 8:46 PM





"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> > it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use to
> > clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)
>
muriatic acid

--
Nahmie
Those on the cutting edge bleed a lot.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

25/03/2005 7:59 PM

On 25 Mar 2005 08:11:46 -0800, the inscrutable "Charlie Self"
<[email protected]> spake:

>Larry Jaques writes:
>>>It's strong, so be sure to neutralize afterward. Muriatic is dilute
>hycrochloric acid. Use it outside. The fumes are nasty. <<
>
>OK if I just leave the bathroom window open? I'm not up for hauling
>the crapper outside just to get some rust off.

Yeah, and use a box fan + wear a respirator/gloves/goggles.

A friend who was a janitor showed me how to use it. Turn the
crapper water valve OFF, use a round brush to remove the water
by plunging it down the trap, carefully (without dripping it on
the carpet or linoleum) put half a cup of muriatic into the bowl.
Swish up under the rim and around the entire bowl, wait 5 to 10
minutes, add a cup of baking soda, turn water on, swish, and flush
twice. It cleans up bowls as bad as -bar- toilets in minutes flat.
Great stuff. ;)


>But I wonder what the stuff, even neutralized, will do to my septic
>tank.

Neutralized, it's inert and will just flow through it.


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"Walt Cheever"

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

24/03/2005 10:05 PM

A lot of times electrolysis is way overkill for just light rusting. Plus
its messy.

I use the rubber hand blocks from Woodcraft
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?familyid=7329

on light rust. They are clean, work fast, and leave me with a nice finish.
And I don't have to rub too hard. They abrade away, so they will follow
complex surfaces.

Usual disclaimer, don't own or work for Woodcraft.

Walt C


"Buck Frobisher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>I just found an old Stanly plane that I have had for a long
>> time and it has some rust on it. What is the best way to
>> remove the rust? I would like to use the plane again
>>
>> --
>> b
>
> Try Electrolysis. See this link:
> http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/rust/electrolytic_derusting.htm
>
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

25/03/2005 6:35 AM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:46:30 -0500, the inscrutable "Norman D. Crow"
<[email protected]> spake:

>"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>> > it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use to
>> > clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)
>>
>muriatic acid

$3.69 for a gallon of the 31.45% stuff at the Farmer's Building Supply
here. It's also great for toilet rust stains and lime buildup. (My
second toilet limes up from disuse.)

It's strong, so be sure to neutralize afterward. Muriatic is dilute
hycrochloric acid. Use it outside. The fumes are nasty.

Clean, rinse/neutralize, dry off -immediately-, wax -immediately-
after that. Please DAMHIKT.


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Phisherman

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

04/04/2005 1:21 AM

Maybe. Acid dissolves metal, so if the acid were used improperly it
could pit a metal surface. My preference is to use kerosene,
sandpaper, and elbow grease.

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 19:29:33 -0500, "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote:

> muriatic acid will clean the rust so the metal looks like
>new
>
>"Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message
>news:[email protected]...
>"Norman D. Crow" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:d1vqht0es5
>@enews2.newsguy.com:
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Patriarch" <[email protected]> wrote in
>message
>>
>news:[email protected]...
>>> "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>> > it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use
>to
>>> > clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)
>>>
>> muriatic acid
>>
>
>I knew the name. I think it's a very bad idea, however.
>
>Patriarch,
>who has scrubbed a few bricks and blocks in his youth.
>

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

25/03/2005 2:48 AM

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:41:59 -0600, "Boots" <[email protected]> wrote:

>it is surface rust. Someone told me the acid they use to
>clean brick will clean it. (can't think of the acid?)

If you can't get it acceptably clean with 30 seconds work and a
plastic mesh abrasive, then use electrolysis.

Don't use acid (any of them). Acid won't do anything to de-rust it.

JH

Juergen Hannappel

in reply to "Boots" on 24/03/2005 2:40 PM

25/03/2005 5:22 PM

"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> writes:

> Larry Jaques writes:
>>>It's strong, so be sure to neutralize afterward. Muriatic is dilute
> hycrochloric acid. Use it outside. The fumes are nasty. <<
>
> OK if I just leave the bathroom window open? I'm not up for hauling
> the crapper outside just to get some rust off.

Take care, the fumes will make any iron that they hit rust, even if it
is stainless steel. I would not recomend it for rust removal!
>
> But I wonder what the stuff, even neutralized, will do to my septic
> tank.

Nothing, even un-neutralized. Consider the acidity of rain water, or
that if you are sick you also bring up fairly strong hydrochloric
acid. Neutralized it's nothibg else than salt water.

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