aJ

[email protected] (Jon Shelley)

31/12/2004 2:13 AM

New Delta TS at Home Depot

Has anyone else seen this? One of the local HD's just put it out for display a
few weeks ago. I wish I could remember the model# now, and I don't see it on
the HD website. It's a contractor's saw for $529 and has a cast iron top,
stamped wings, 1 1/2HP. It seems to be a pretty solid machine for the price.

Anyway, just got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards between Christmas and my
recent engagement, enough to put a serious dent in the price of a saw.
Miraculously, my fiance's going to let me spend it on tools, so I can't let
this opportunity slip away! She'll probably find organization stuff next time
she goes in, can't let that happen.

I had intended to get the Rigid at first, and I've read good things about it,
but my only concern is availability of parts and accessories. Any advice on
this one, are the concerns with the Rigid valid? I know there are some better
saws for just a little bit more, but with the gift card situation, it would
end up costing me a whole lot more to get the Grizzly or Jet somewhere else.

By the way, I think this group is great, I've been lurking for a while now. A
lot of intelligent, reasonable people on here and good discussions. I really
thought everybody needed just one more table saw thread, though:-)


Jon


This topic has 23 replies

NP

"Nate Perkins"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 8:51 AM

Jon Shelley wrote:
> Has anyone else seen this? One of the local HD's just put it out for
display a
> few weeks ago. I wish I could remember the model# now, and I don't
see it on
> the HD website. It's a contractor's saw for $529 and has a cast iron
top,
> stamped wings, 1 1/2HP. It seems to be a pretty solid machine for the
price.
...
> I had intended to get the Rigid at first, and I've read good things
about it,
> but my only concern is availability of parts and accessories. Any
advice on
> this one, are the concerns with the Rigid valid? I know there are
some better
> saws for just a little bit more, but with the gift card situation, it
would
> end up costing me a whole lot more to get the Grizzly or Jet
somewhere else.

I haven't seen the new Delta, but I looked at the new Ridgid saw and
was impressed. The Ridgid I looked at had cast wings, casters, a good
fence (better than my Jetfence, but that's not saying much), and (from
what I could tell crawing around) some very beefy looking trunnions.
It got good reviews in a recent mag I saw.

I don't think you can go wrong with either the Delta or the Ridgid.

> By the way, I think this group is great, I've been lurking for a
while now. A
> lot of intelligent, reasonable people on here and good discussions. I
really
> thought everybody needed just one more table saw thread, though:-)

Yeah, ditto that. I've been hanging out here for about a year and a
half (mostly lurking). Lots of good information here and generally
polite and reasonable discourse.

aJ

[email protected] (Jon Shelley)

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

01/01/2005 3:41 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Jon Shelley wrote:
>> OK, I think you and Mortimer have convinced me to get the Ridgid. Thanks to
>> everyone who replied for your insight.
>
>I wasn't trying to convince you to buy it;

I know, let me rephrase. I was leaning towards it already and you helped
alleviate my only concern with it, so it's a no-brainer.

just not to ignore it based on the
>writings of people who don't have one. I believe I've read where Charlie Self
>said he had one as well. Are there better contractor saws? Probably... I
> don't
>really know. All I do know is that I have no regrets buying this one.
>
>And I forgot to mention it: I have a Delta tenoning jig that fits in the miter
>
>slot just fine as well.
>
>Enjoy your saw, leave the shop with as many fingers as you entered with,

At least!


and
>happy New Year.

Same to you!


Jon

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 12:46 AM

Bullwinkle J. Moose wrote:
> Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so take
> it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now and
> haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt kit
> and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made,


Would you expand on this? I've got a Ridgid TS2424 that I'm quite happy with
and have tricked out with a router table bolted onto one wing and an overtable
dust collector / guard. I've thought about adding a link belt to it because
people have said it made things just that much smoother. What problems did you
run into?




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]





tc

tpg comcntr

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 10:01 PM

You don't say what brand. I have an older Delta of the same specs and have used
with no trouble except for the rip fence which would never line up. Had to get a
new rip fence they designed which is called a T-square fence. Now works perfectly
and is very reliable.

Smith
Fredericksburg, VA

Jon Shelley wrote:

> Has anyone else seen this? One of the local HD's just put it out for display a
> few weeks ago. I wish I could remember the model# now, and I don't see it on
> the HD website. It's a contractor's saw for $529 and has a cast iron top,
> stamped wings, 1 1/2HP. It seems to be a pretty solid machine for the price.
>
> Anyway, just got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards between Christmas and my
> recent engagement, enough to put a serious dent in the price of a saw.
> Miraculously, my fiance's going to let me spend it on tools, so I can't let
> this opportunity slip away! She'll probably find organization stuff next time
> she goes in, can't let that happen.
>
> I had intended to get the Rigid at first, and I've read good things about it,
> but my only concern is availability of parts and accessories. Any advice on
> this one, are the concerns with the Rigid valid? I know there are some better
> saws for just a little bit more, but with the gift card situation, it would
> end up costing me a whole lot more to get the Grizzly or Jet somewhere else.
>
> By the way, I think this group is great, I've been lurking for a while now. A
> lot of intelligent, reasonable people on here and good discussions. I really
> thought everybody needed just one more table saw thread, though:-)
>
> Jon


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[email protected] (Dave Mundt)

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

02/01/2005 6:08 AM

Greetings and Salutations...

On , "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 20:26:31 MST
>Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:20:13 -0500
>Xref: bigfeed.bellsouth.net rec.woodworking:952847
>
>Jon Shelley wrote:
>> OK, I think you and Mortimer have convinced me to get the Ridgid. Thanks to
>> everyone who replied for your insight.
>
As far as I can tell, from looking at the tools, they are a
good value for the money. They are decent quality, and, while they
would likely fail if pushed too hard, the probability of your typical
hobbiest pushing them too far is pretty low.

>I wasn't trying to convince you to buy it; just not to ignore it based on the
>writings of people who don't have one. I believe I've read where Charlie Self
>said he had one as well. Are there better contractor saws? Probably... I don't
>really know. All I do know is that I have no regrets buying this one.
>
>And I forgot to mention it: I have a Delta tenoning jig that fits in the miter
>slot just fine as well.
>
Yea...I believe the Ridgid stuff all does have the "standard"
3/4"x3/8" miter slots. It was the Sear's Craftsman stuff that was a
hair smaller, so one was locked into buying THEIR accessories.

>Enjoy your saw, leave the shop with as many fingers as you entered with, and
>happy New Year..
>
Hear! Hear!. One of the things I am proudest about after 40
years of wrestling wood is that I can still wiggle all 10 fingers in
the air. Probably the WORST thing I have done is sliced a couple
gashes into the first and second fingers of my right hand with a
bandsaw (piece of wood split on me). The gash was not too bad, but,
alas, it got infected, so it was a bit dicey for a bit.
In any case, best wishes to you, and, all the other folks
taking part in this complicated online community for a safe,
productive and positive 2005!
Regards
Dave Mundt

>
>--
>Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
>[email protected]
>
>

BE

Brian Elfert

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

03/01/2005 7:03 PM

"Maverick" <[email protected]> writes:

>Sometime during the past year the company that makes Rigid, and some other
>brands, was sold to, and maybe even moved to, China. I forget where I read
>that but it might have been Business Week.

No sale really. Production of Ridgid power tools was shifted from Emerson
to Techtronics, parent of Ryobi. Somehow, Home Depot and Techtronics
license the Ridgid name for use on power tools.

Brian Elfert

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 3:57 PM

Jon Shelley wrote:
> OK, here's where I may have misunderstood some things that I had read in the
> Google archives. I was under the impression the miter slot on the Ridgid was a
> slightly different size than standard, and you couldn't use most of the
> aftermarket miter gauges and other store-bought jigs that use the miter slot.
> Is this not the case?


That is not the case. I have an Incra 5000 mitersled that works just fine in
the Ridgid slot. As far as I know it is completely standard.

It's been my experience that most of the negative stuff you read about Ridgid
saws is all posted from folks who don't own one. Those of us who have one like
them.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]


BJ

"Bullwinkle J. Moose"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

01/01/2005 1:03 AM

Yup, sure did. That was one of the first things I did, and redid, and did a
third time after reading. Thanks for the comeback though!

"Chuck Hoffman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Did you make sure the pulleys were precisely aligned when you installed
your
> link belt?
>
> "Bullwinkle J. Moose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:wafBd.261581$5K2.12433@attbi_s03...
> > Sorry about that Mortimer. The problem I had with the link belt was IMO
it
> > wasn't as smooth as they claim to be. With the original belt, it would
> (and
> > still does) pass the nickel test. With the link belt, it failed during
> start
> > up. It also seemed to me, a lot noisier. After googling the group, I
found
> > discussions about it and someone said it may be on backwards. Well I
> turned
> > it the other way and it was twice as noisy, and also failed the nickel
> test
> > starting and spinning down. Maybe I just got a defective set??? Dunno,
> it's
> > tucked away back in one of the cabinets out there. I may find a use for
it
> > somewhere else, or give it to SIL to put on his Craftsman, if it'll fit.
I
> > can't for the life of me remember where I ordered it from! And as they
> > always say, YMMV.
> >
> > "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Bullwinkle J. Moose wrote:
> > > > Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid,
so
> > take
> > > > it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now
> and
> > > > haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link
belt
> > kit
> > > > and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made,
> > >
> > >
> > > Would you expand on this? I've got a Ridgid TS2424 that I'm quite
happy
> > with
> > > and have tricked out with a router table bolted onto one wing and an
> > overtable
> > > dust collector / guard. I've thought about adding a link belt to it
> > because
> > > people have said it made things just that much smoother. What
problems
> > did you
> > > run into?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> > >
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

BJ

"Bullwinkle J. Moose"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

01/01/2005 12:59 AM

I'll agree with Mort, may I call you Mort? All the negativity comes from non
owners. Hell I know a couple guys that have cars and trucks other people
wouldn't have because somebody told somebody else's brother in law, that
told somebody's ex wife.......Well I think you get the point. Nay Sayers
all. I like it, Mort likes his, and I'm sure there's quite a few other
people that like theirs. As far as after market products, I've yet to find
one that didn't fit my miter slot on the table saw or band saw. I've got a
Delta tenoning jig that fits perfect. And yes, I do own a few Delta tools
also. I'm not prejudice. I got Craftsman stuff, B&D stuff, even got a Jet
DC. So, once again, don't _ALWAYS_ believe what your reading about things.
Hope this helps.

"Jon Shelley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <FmfBd.831643$8_6.644735@attbi_s04>, "Bullwinkle J. Moose"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >Jon, as for the Ridgid brand, yes, that's all they sell. As for the
prices
> >being inflated, I would say they are about on the average. I ordered some
> >molding head cutters for the kit I got as a present a couple years back,
> >some factory cool blocks for the BS, a couple extra switch keys, (I'm
still
> >trying to figure out where I laid the original one from the OSS and why I
> >even took it out to begin with), the mobile base for the BS, and just a
> >fewother little odds and ends. As far as the miter gauge goes, I use the
> >factory one very little and for 90 degree cuts only. I have an Incra
2000.
>
> OK, here's where I may have misunderstood some things that I had read in
the
> Google archives. I was under the impression the miter slot on the Ridgid
was a
> slightly different size than standard, and you couldn't use most of the
> aftermarket miter gauges and other store-bought jigs that use the miter
slot.
> Is this not the case?
>
> >Pretty awesome I might add. I'm not sure what kind of bells and whistles
you
> >could/would add to a table saw, other that what Mortimer did and a miter
> >gauge and fence. Personally, I like the factory fence. I did have to do
some
> >tweaking to the fence when I first got it, but other than checking the
> >alignments on everything every few months, things seem to be just fine.
It's
> >not mobile, so it stays in alignment good. If anything happened to it
today,
> >I'd replace it with another one. There again, that's this guy's opinion.
> >Good luck with whatever you choose! But mostly be safe! Happy New Year to
> >you and all of you guy's out there!
>
>
> Right back at ya! Happy New Years to everyone!
>
>
> Jon

BJ

"Bullwinkle J. Moose"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 4:45 PM

Jon, as for the Ridgid brand, yes, that's all they sell. As for the prices
being inflated, I would say they are about on the average. I ordered some
molding head cutters for the kit I got as a present a couple years back,
some factory cool blocks for the BS, a couple extra switch keys, (I'm still
trying to figure out where I laid the original one from the OSS and why I
even took it out to begin with), the mobile base for the BS, and just a
fewother little odds and ends. As far as the miter gauge goes, I use the
factory one very little and for 90 degree cuts only. I have an Incra 2000.
Pretty awesome I might add. I'm not sure what kind of bells and whistles you
could/would add to a table saw, other that what Mortimer did and a miter
gauge and fence. Personally, I like the factory fence. I did have to do some
tweaking to the fence when I first got it, but other than checking the
alignments on everything every few months, things seem to be just fine. It's
not mobile, so it stays in alignment good. If anything happened to it today,
I'd replace it with another one. There again, that's this guy's opinion.
Good luck with whatever you choose! But mostly be safe! Happy New Year to
you and all of you guy's out there!

"Jon Shelley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <rp3Bd.307734$HA.282097@attbi_s01>, "Bullwinkle J. Moose"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> >Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so
take
> >it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now and
> >haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt kit
> >and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made, ( hmmm, I thought my Ronco
Popeil
> >Pocket Fisherman was). That has nothing to do with Ridgid. I've also got
a
> >few other tools and a sump pump with the Ridgid brand on them and have no
> >complaints at all. The only complaint I do have is that you can't order
> >woodworking tool things <read accessories> off the internet. You call the
> >800 number and you can order you heart out. Dunno why. So, take it from
here
> >peoples!
>
> When you call the 800 number, I'm guessing they only sell Ridgid brand
> accessories, right? And are the prices inflated, due to lack of consumer
> choices? Seems like this would seriously limit what one could add to it. I
> don't have anything major in mind right now, other than a good miter
gauge,
> but I'm not sure what kind of bells and whistles I'll want to add in the
> future.
>
>
> Jon

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 10:20 PM

Jon Shelley wrote:
> OK, I think you and Mortimer have convinced me to get the Ridgid. Thanks to
> everyone who replied for your insight.

I wasn't trying to convince you to buy it; just not to ignore it based on the
writings of people who don't have one. I believe I've read where Charlie Self
said he had one as well. Are there better contractor saws? Probably... I don't
really know. All I do know is that I have no regrets buying this one.

And I forgot to mention it: I have a Delta tenoning jig that fits in the miter
slot just fine as well.

Enjoy your saw, leave the shop with as many fingers as you entered with, and
happy New Year.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

Mj

"Maverick"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 1:17 PM


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bullwinkle J. Moose wrote:
>> Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so
>> take
>> it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now and
>> haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt kit
>> and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made,
>
>
> Would you expand on this? I've got a Ridgid TS2424 that I'm quite happy
> with and have tricked out with a router table bolted onto one wing and an
> overtable dust collector / guard. I've thought about adding a link belt
> to it because people have said it made things just that much smoother.
> What problems did you run into?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
>
>
>

Sometime during the past year the company that makes Rigid, and some other
brands, was sold to, and maybe even moved to, China. I forget where I read
that but it might have been Business Week.


Cc

"Charley"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 2:46 AM

I would buy a Delta over the Ridgid in a heartbeat, for the parts
availability reason more than anything else. Delta has been real good to me
for many years both in tool reliability and spare parts. The Ridgid name is
now owned by Home Depot, but I hear that Emerson Tool isn't making them any
more. When Sears dropped Emerson as their supplier of saws I discovered that
I suddenly couldn't get some of the parts that I needed for my Craftsman
RAS, not from Sears nor Emerson Tool. I would expect the same thing to
happen with Ridgid tools that were made by Emerson that Home Depot used to
sell. Is Home Depot going to stock parts for all of these tools for the next
20-40 years? I think not.

This is just my opinion. You can do what you want.

--
Charley


"Jon Shelley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Has anyone else seen this? One of the local HD's just put it out for
display a
> few weeks ago. I wish I could remember the model# now, and I don't see it
on
> the HD website. It's a contractor's saw for $529 and has a cast iron top,
> stamped wings, 1 1/2HP. It seems to be a pretty solid machine for the
price.
>
> Anyway, just got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards between Christmas and my
> recent engagement, enough to put a serious dent in the price of a saw.
> Miraculously, my fiance's going to let me spend it on tools, so I can't
let
> this opportunity slip away! She'll probably find organization stuff next
time
> she goes in, can't let that happen.
>
> I had intended to get the Rigid at first, and I've read good things about
it,
> but my only concern is availability of parts and accessories. Any advice
on
> this one, are the concerns with the Rigid valid? I know there are some
better
> saws for just a little bit more, but with the gift card situation, it
would
> end up costing me a whole lot more to get the Grizzly or Jet somewhere
else.
>
> By the way, I think this group is great, I've been lurking for a while
now. A
> lot of intelligent, reasonable people on here and good discussions. I
really
> thought everybody needed just one more table saw thread, though:-)
>
>
> Jon

CH

"Chuck Hoffman"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 7:01 PM

Did you make sure the pulleys were precisely aligned when you installed your
link belt?

"Bullwinkle J. Moose" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:wafBd.261581$5K2.12433@attbi_s03...
> Sorry about that Mortimer. The problem I had with the link belt was IMO it
> wasn't as smooth as they claim to be. With the original belt, it would
(and
> still does) pass the nickel test. With the link belt, it failed during
start
> up. It also seemed to me, a lot noisier. After googling the group, I found
> discussions about it and someone said it may be on backwards. Well I
turned
> it the other way and it was twice as noisy, and also failed the nickel
test
> starting and spinning down. Maybe I just got a defective set??? Dunno,
it's
> tucked away back in one of the cabinets out there. I may find a use for it
> somewhere else, or give it to SIL to put on his Craftsman, if it'll fit. I
> can't for the life of me remember where I ordered it from! And as they
> always say, YMMV.
>
> "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Bullwinkle J. Moose wrote:
> > > Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so
> take
> > > it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now
and
> > > haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt
> kit
> > > and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made,
> >
> >
> > Would you expand on this? I've got a Ridgid TS2424 that I'm quite happy
> with
> > and have tricked out with a router table bolted onto one wing and an
> overtable
> > dust collector / guard. I've thought about adding a link belt to it
> because
> > people have said it made things just that much smoother. What problems
> did you
> > run into?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

RS

"Rick Samuel"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 7:57 AM

Seems Emerson stopped making Ridgid, (a year ago?) time sure gets away from
me anymore.

aJ

[email protected] (Jon Shelley)

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 8:32 PM

In article <FmfBd.831643$8_6.644735@attbi_s04>, "Bullwinkle J. Moose" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Jon, as for the Ridgid brand, yes, that's all they sell. As for the prices
>being inflated, I would say they are about on the average. I ordered some
>molding head cutters for the kit I got as a present a couple years back,
>some factory cool blocks for the BS, a couple extra switch keys, (I'm still
>trying to figure out where I laid the original one from the OSS and why I
>even took it out to begin with), the mobile base for the BS, and just a
>fewother little odds and ends. As far as the miter gauge goes, I use the
>factory one very little and for 90 degree cuts only. I have an Incra 2000.

OK, here's where I may have misunderstood some things that I had read in the
Google archives. I was under the impression the miter slot on the Ridgid was a
slightly different size than standard, and you couldn't use most of the
aftermarket miter gauges and other store-bought jigs that use the miter slot.
Is this not the case?

>Pretty awesome I might add. I'm not sure what kind of bells and whistles you
>could/would add to a table saw, other that what Mortimer did and a miter
>gauge and fence. Personally, I like the factory fence. I did have to do some
>tweaking to the fence when I first got it, but other than checking the
>alignments on everything every few months, things seem to be just fine. It's
>not mobile, so it stays in alignment good. If anything happened to it today,
>I'd replace it with another one. There again, that's this guy's opinion.
>Good luck with whatever you choose! But mostly be safe! Happy New Year to
>you and all of you guy's out there!


Right back at ya! Happy New Years to everyone!


Jon

aJ

[email protected] (Jon Shelley)

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 2:14 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Bullwinkle J. Moose wrote:
>> Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so take
>> it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now and
>> haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt kit
>> and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made,
>
>
>Would you expand on this? I've got a Ridgid TS2424 that I'm quite happy with
>and have tricked out with a router table bolted onto one wing and an overtable
>dust collector / guard. I've thought about adding a link belt to it because
>people have said it made things just that much smoother. What problems did you
>
>run into?

Where'd you get your accessories from?


Jon

CH

"Chuck Hoffman"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 6:57 PM

Do you think Black & Decker is going to continue to offer parts for older
Delta machinery? Don't bet the farm.

"Charley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would buy a Delta over the Ridgid in a heartbeat, for the parts
> availability reason more than anything else. Delta has been real good to
me
> for many years both in tool reliability and spare parts. The Ridgid name
is
> now owned by Home Depot, but I hear that Emerson Tool isn't making them
any
> more. When Sears dropped Emerson as their supplier of saws I discovered
that
> I suddenly couldn't get some of the parts that I needed for my Craftsman
> RAS, not from Sears nor Emerson Tool. I would expect the same thing to
> happen with Ridgid tools that were made by Emerson that Home Depot used to
> sell. Is Home Depot going to stock parts for all of these tools for the
next
> 20-40 years? I think not.
>
> This is just my opinion. You can do what you want.
>
> --
> Charley
>
>
> "Jon Shelley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Has anyone else seen this? One of the local HD's just put it out for
> display a
> > few weeks ago. I wish I could remember the model# now, and I don't see
it
> on
> > the HD website. It's a contractor's saw for $529 and has a cast iron
top,
> > stamped wings, 1 1/2HP. It seems to be a pretty solid machine for the
> price.
> >
> > Anyway, just got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards between Christmas and
my
> > recent engagement, enough to put a serious dent in the price of a saw.
> > Miraculously, my fiance's going to let me spend it on tools, so I can't
> let
> > this opportunity slip away! She'll probably find organization stuff next
> time
> > she goes in, can't let that happen.
> >
> > I had intended to get the Rigid at first, and I've read good things
about
> it,
> > but my only concern is availability of parts and accessories. Any advice
> on
> > this one, are the concerns with the Rigid valid? I know there are some
> better
> > saws for just a little bit more, but with the gift card situation, it
> would
> > end up costing me a whole lot more to get the Grizzly or Jet somewhere
> else.
> >
> > By the way, I think this group is great, I've been lurking for a while
> now. A
> > lot of intelligent, reasonable people on here and good discussions. I
> really
> > thought everybody needed just one more table saw thread, though:-)
> >
> >
> > Jon
>
>

BJ

"Bullwinkle J. Moose"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 3:09 AM

Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so take
it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now and
haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt kit
and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made, ( hmmm, I thought my Ronco Popeil
Pocket Fisherman was). That has nothing to do with Ridgid. I've also got a
few other tools and a sump pump with the Ridgid brand on them and have no
complaints at all. The only complaint I do have is that you can't order
woodworking tool things <read accessories> off the internet. You call the
800 number and you can order you heart out. Dunno why. So, take it from here
peoples!

"Jon Shelley" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Has anyone else seen this? One of the local HD's just put it out for
display a
> few weeks ago. I wish I could remember the model# now, and I don't see it
on
> the HD website. It's a contractor's saw for $529 and has a cast iron top,
> stamped wings, 1 1/2HP. It seems to be a pretty solid machine for the
price.
>
> Anyway, just got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards between Christmas and my
> recent engagement, enough to put a serious dent in the price of a saw.
> Miraculously, my fiance's going to let me spend it on tools, so I can't
let
> this opportunity slip away! She'll probably find organization stuff next
time
> she goes in, can't let that happen.
>
> I had intended to get the Rigid at first, and I've read good things about
it,
> but my only concern is availability of parts and accessories. Any advice
on
> this one, are the concerns with the Rigid valid? I know there are some
better
> saws for just a little bit more, but with the gift card situation, it
would
> end up costing me a whole lot more to get the Grizzly or Jet somewhere
else.
>
> By the way, I think this group is great, I've been lurking for a while
now. A
> lot of intelligent, reasonable people on here and good discussions. I
really
> thought everybody needed just one more table saw thread, though:-)
>
>
> Jon

aJ

[email protected] (Jon Shelley)

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

01/01/2005 3:12 AM

In article <DBmBd.732367$mD.141691@attbi_s02>, "Bullwinkle J. Moose" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I'll agree with Mort, may I call you Mort? All the negativity comes from non
>owners. Hell I know a couple guys that have cars and trucks other people
>wouldn't have because somebody told somebody else's brother in law, that
>told somebody's ex wife.......Well I think you get the point. Nay Sayers
>all. I like it, Mort likes his, and I'm sure there's quite a few other
>people that like theirs. As far as after market products, I've yet to find
>one that didn't fit my miter slot on the table saw or band saw. I've got a
>Delta tenoning jig that fits perfect. And yes, I do own a few Delta tools
>also. I'm not prejudice. I got Craftsman stuff, B&D stuff, even got a Jet
>DC. So, once again, don't _ALWAYS_ believe what your reading about things.
>Hope this helps.

OK, I think you and Mortimer have convinced me to get the Ridgid. Thanks to
everyone who replied for your insight.


Jon

aJ

[email protected] (Jon Shelley)

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 2:12 PM

In article <rp3Bd.307734$HA.282097@attbi_s01>, "Bullwinkle J. Moose" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so take
>it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now and
>haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt kit
>and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made, ( hmmm, I thought my Ronco Popeil
>Pocket Fisherman was). That has nothing to do with Ridgid. I've also got a
>few other tools and a sump pump with the Ridgid brand on them and have no
>complaints at all. The only complaint I do have is that you can't order
>woodworking tool things <read accessories> off the internet. You call the
>800 number and you can order you heart out. Dunno why. So, take it from here
>peoples!

When you call the 800 number, I'm guessing they only sell Ridgid brand
accessories, right? And are the prices inflated, due to lack of consumer
choices? Seems like this would seriously limit what one could add to it. I
don't have anything major in mind right now, other than a good miter gauge,
but I'm not sure what kind of bells and whistles I'll want to add in the
future.


Jon

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 11:07 AM

Jon Shelley wrote:
>> Would you expand on this? I've got a Ridgid TS2424 that I'm quite happy with
>> and have tricked out with a router table bolted onto one wing and an
>> overtable dust collector / guard. I've thought about adding a link belt to
>> it because people have said it made things just that much smoother. What
>> problems did you run into?
>
> Where'd you get your accessories from?


I'm not at home so I'm going from memory: I bought the bolt on router table at
Woodcraft. It was made to replace the left wing of the table saw but since the
TS2424 has those big heavy cast iron wings I thought it would hold the weight...
and it does. I bolted on the extension to the wing instead of the central
portion of the saw as the manufacturer intended. That made for a pretty nice
increase in table size. The router table has a Mast-R-Lift router device with a
PC 7518 router in it.

I built a fold down outfeed table from plywood which I laminated with melamine.
The permanent portion is bolted to the saw and extends over the motor, then it
is piano hinged for another three feet of extension or so.

Finally, I bought an overtable guard with integral dust collection from Penn
State. They were having a sale and I got it for about $150 if I recall
correctly. The only thing I would have done differently at this point is rather
than secure it to the right wing of the saw, I'd have added on a good stiff
outrigger and bolted it to that, preserving the space on the right side of the
saw. As it is, the stock can't be any wider than the space from the blade to
the outer edge of the wing.

I attack dust from both the top and bottom of the saw with a Penn State 1 micron
1.5 HP dust collector ($280) with the optional muffler ($80). It is absolutely
amazing to me how very minimal cleanup I have to do now and the volume is low
enough I can listen to music while I'm cutting wood.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

BJ

"Bullwinkle J. Moose"

in reply to [email protected] (Jon Shelley) on 31/12/2004 2:13 AM

31/12/2004 4:33 PM

Sorry about that Mortimer. The problem I had with the link belt was IMO it
wasn't as smooth as they claim to be. With the original belt, it would (and
still does) pass the nickel test. With the link belt, it failed during start
up. It also seemed to me, a lot noisier. After googling the group, I found
discussions about it and someone said it may be on backwards. Well I turned
it the other way and it was twice as noisy, and also failed the nickel test
starting and spinning down. Maybe I just got a defective set??? Dunno, it's
tucked away back in one of the cabinets out there. I may find a use for it
somewhere else, or give it to SIL to put on his Craftsman, if it'll fit. I
can't for the life of me remember where I ordered it from! And as they
always say, YMMV.

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Bullwinkle J. Moose wrote:
> > Jon, your gonna hear a few thousand reasons why Delta over Ridgid, so
take
> > it for what it's worth. I've had my Ridgid TS for about 6 years now and
> > haven't had a lick of trouble with it, except... I bought a link belt
kit
> > and put on it. IMO, the worst move I made,
>
>
> Would you expand on this? I've got a Ridgid TS2424 that I'm quite happy
with
> and have tricked out with a router table bolted onto one wing and an
overtable
> dust collector / guard. I've thought about adding a link belt to it
because
> people have said it made things just that much smoother. What problems
did you
> run into?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
>
>
>


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