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samson

13/12/2007 9:47 AM

OT - Snowblower on a packed gravel drive

Will this destroy the snowblower over time?

Thanks,

S.


This topic has 56 replies

JJ

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 9:05 PM

Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 9:47am (EST-1) [email protected] (samson) doth query:
Will this destroy the snowblower over time?

Of course. On the other hand, just running it long enough, period,
will eventually destroy it. If you're worried aboutit, use a shovel.
If it was me, I'd adjust it enough so it wouldn't pick up an gravel. Or
move. I chose door number 2.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 6:16 PM

"samson" wrote:

> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?

My guess is you already know the answer.

BTW, walked away from the snow blower almost 20 years ago.

Lew

JJ

in reply to "Lew Hodgett" on 13/12/2007 6:16 PM

14/12/2007 5:47 PM

Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 6:16pm (EST-3) [email protected]
(Lew=A0Hodgett) doth sayeth:
<snip> BTW, walked away from the snow blower almost 20 years ago.

I'm not sure snowblowers had even been invented when I was a kid,
not ones for home use anyway. For sure I never saw one. We had a drive
100+' long. In winter the damn drive attracted drifts. Even tho the
yard and field on the other side might only have 6" of snow, along with
the drive near the house. The end 20-25' or so of the drive miight have
a drive upto close to 4' deep. And guess who had to take a shovel out
and clear the drive? One of various reasons I went in the Army, and now
do not live there any more. That was 30+ years ago - heh heh, gotcha
beat Lew.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

14/12/2007 9:46 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> On Dec 13, 8:47 am, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> S.
>
> snow? what's that? and why would you want to blow on it?
>
> Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down into the
> 40s.

Thought you had headed out to California?

Having to turn on the heater to take the chill out of the shop because of
that low 40's temperature.


--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 11:26 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> On Dec 14, 9:46 am, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> > On Dec 13, 8:47 am, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>
>> >> Thanks,
>>
>> >> S.
>>
>> > snow? what's that? and why would you want to blow on it?
>>
>> > Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down into the
>> > 40s.
>>
>> Thought you had headed out to California?
>>
>> Having to turn on the heater to take the chill out of the shop because
>> of
>> that low 40's temperature.
>>
>> --
>> If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough
>
> last trip to Ca. was to haul back some arn. traded in my powermatic
> table saw and got a rockwell 12/14, a rockwell 16" radial arm saw and
> a davis and wells horizontal mortiser.
>

Cool.

> I did sell my house on the south side, though. bought one in the old
> neighborhood, a few blocks from my Mom's house. kind of interesting to
> be back- a lot has changed, but a lot is the same, too.
>
> at the moment all of my machinery is in storage while I build the new
> shop. this time I'm doing a few things better- floor outlets, dust
> collection under the slab- hoping to even get an overhead trolley in
> before too long.

Can see where an overhead trolley could be pretty handy.

Be sure to post pictures when you get done.

--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 1:24 PM


"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> No doubt it will, but depending on where you live, you may not care to
> leave an extra inch of snow on the drive every time you clear it. Builds
> up to several wheel-grabbing inches of slush with the thaw.
>
> Takes me 15 years on an impeller, half dozen on the shoes, but I think
> it's worth it. 300" per year can close a driveway if you don't use a
> blower.

That's right around our average also. I don't blow it though - I prefer the
warmth and comfort of my truck. I just push it wayyyyy back in the
beginning of the winter.


--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 1:25 PM


"samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>

Not if you build up an inch or so of hard pack early on. Then set it as low
as it will go so you don't keep building up a pack. You'll regret several
inches when the thaw starts.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

En

"EXT"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 7:25 PM


"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>
>
> Not if you build up an inch or so of hard pack early on. Then set it as
> low as it will go so you don't keep building up a pack. You'll regret
> several inches when the thaw starts.
>
That is the way I do it. First snow fall gets left on the driveway to be
packed down by traffic. All the rest get snowblown. Of course sometimes the
first one is too deep to leave, then I blow carefully to reduce the amount
of gravel picked up. The edge of the driveway is the worst as the larger
stones migrate to the edge and the grass is a little lower than the driveway
so it is easy to scoop up some gravel. I have nothing down-range that I can
hit, so the odd stone gets thrown on either my lawn or my neighbors. He is
in Florida for the winter, and doesn't know about it.

b

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 7:41 PM

On Dec 13, 8:47 am, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

snow? what's that? and why would you want to blow on it?

Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down into the
40s.

JJ

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

14/12/2007 5:49 PM

Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 7:41pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth query:
snow? what's that? <snip>

Stiff water.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

JJ

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

13/12/2007 11:40 PM

Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 7:41pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
<snip> Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down into
the 40s.

74 here today, in central NC, and supposed to get down to 54
tonight. We have trees and grass too.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

SW

"Skip Williams"

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

14/12/2007 7:41 AM

I have an uncle that lives near Boston. His favorite saying is that he is
going to tie his snowblower to the front of his pickup truck and keep
driving south until someone asked him "What the heck is that?". There he
would retire.<g>

Skip
www.ShopFileR.com



"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
>> J T wrote:
>>> Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 7:41pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth
>>> sayeth:
>>> <snip> Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down
>>> into the 40s.
>>>
>>> 74 here today, in central NC, and supposed to get down to 54
>>> tonight. We have trees and grass too.
>>
>>
>>
>> You have grass? I had grass. Now I have dirt.
>
> I have 8 inches of fresh white topsoil with more due to arrive
> Saturday. Y'all suck.
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
>

MS

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN"

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

14/12/2007 12:06 AM

J T wrote:
> Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 7:41pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
> <snip> Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down into
> the 40s.
>
> 74 here today, in central NC, and supposed to get down to 54
> tonight. We have trees and grass too.



You have grass? I had grass. Now I have dirt.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
Charlotte, NC

JJ

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 14/12/2007 12:06 AM

14/12/2007 5:52 PM

Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 12:06am mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
(Mortimer=A0Schnerd,=A0RN) doth sayeth:
You have grass? I had grass. Now I have dirt.

I 'had' grass. Quit mowing it in '84. Now I have trees.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" on 14/12/2007 12:06 AM

15/12/2007 8:07 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 12:06am mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
(Mortimer Schnerd, RN) doth sayeth:
You have grass? I had grass. Now I have dirt.

I 'had' grass. Quit mowing it in '84. Now I have trees.


...and a '64 Chevy on concrete blocks in there somewhere.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

JJ

in reply to "Mike Marlow" on 15/12/2007 8:07 AM

15/12/2007 2:47 PM

Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 8:07am [email protected] (Mike=A0Marlow)
dothclaimeth:
..and a '64 Chevy on concrete blocks in there somewhere.

Nope. But I do have a '78 El Camino, on four wheels, with a built
307, that I'm gonna drive to town in a bit. And the same on Sun, Mon,
Tue, et al.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

ww

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

14/12/2007 5:19 AM

On Dec 13, 11:40 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 7:41pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
> <snip> Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down into
> the 40s.
>
> 74 here today, in central NC, and supposed to get down to 54
> tonight. We have trees and grass too.
>
> JOAT
> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
> them.
> - Picasso

And all kind of Extreme hot, sticky and wet weather. I'll stick to a
few snowstorms and a bit of cold weather, thank you.
Used to shovel snow on a gravel driveway. Few years ago took the hit
and paved. Best home improvement investment ever.

JJ

in reply to "[email protected]" on 14/12/2007 5:19 AM

14/12/2007 6:01 PM

Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 5:19am (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
And all kind of Extreme hot, sticky and wet weather. <snip>

You're thinking of Florida.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

14/12/2007 7:21 AM

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> J T wrote:
>> Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 7:41pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth
>> sayeth:
>> <snip> Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down
>> into the 40s.
>>
>> 74 here today, in central NC, and supposed to get down to 54
>> tonight. We have trees and grass too.
>
>
>
> You have grass? I had grass. Now I have dirt.

I have 8 inches of fresh white topsoil with more due to arrive
Saturday. Y'all suck.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

14/12/2007 9:30 AM

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> J T wrote:
>> Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 7:41pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
>> <snip> Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down
>> into the 40s.
>>
>> 74 here today, in central NC, and supposed to get down to 54
>> tonight. We have trees and grass too.
>
>
>
> You have grass? I had grass. Now I have dirt.
>
>
>

I too traded my grass for dirt in one part of the yard. Grew tomatoes
there.

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

JJ

in reply to Puckdropper on 14/12/2007 9:30 AM

14/12/2007 5:58 PM

Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 9:30am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
doth sayeth:
I too traded my grass for dirt in one part of the yard. Grew tomatoes
there.

Who taught you how to garden? Dan Quayle?

If you want to get a really great yield, try a raised bed. That's
a garden bed.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 14/12/2007 9:30 AM

15/12/2007 1:14 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in news:12249-47630A7A-21@storefull-
3333.bay.webtv.net:

> Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 9:30am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
> doth sayeth:
> I too traded my grass for dirt in one part of the yard. Grew tomatoes
> there.
>
> Who taught you how to garden? Dan Quayle?
>
> If you want to get a really great yield, try a raised bed. That's
> a garden bed.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
> them.
> - Picasso
>

Raised beds are more work than planting more plants. First I'd have to
build a retaining wall of some kind, then fill the thing up with dirt,
good quality top soil for my plants. After that, maybe you start getting
some of the benefit of the raised bed, but now you're limited to that
size. Want another row of beans? Build another bed.

I'm talking a real garden here, not a little window box for three plants.

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

JJ

in reply to Puckdropper on 15/12/2007 1:14 AM

15/12/2007 2:40 PM

Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 1:14am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
doth sayeth:
<snip> I'm talking a real garden here, not a little window box for three
plants.

I tried a raised bed garden once, for my wife (ex), who wanted to
grow a few. Scrap.plywood, box aroun 2 X 3 feet. Damn plants wound up
about 6 feet tall, full of large fruit. Wound up giving away all we
cound, and still threw some away. Even three plants would probably have
been overkill.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Gg

"George"

in reply to Puckdropper on 14/12/2007 9:30 AM

15/12/2007 10:16 AM


"Puckdropper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Raised beds are more work than planting more plants. First I'd have to
> build a retaining wall of some kind, then fill the thing up with dirt,
> good quality top soil for my plants. After that, maybe you start getting
> some of the benefit of the raised bed, but now you're limited to that
> size. Want another row of beans? Build another bed.
>
> I'm talking a real garden here, not a little window box for three plants.
>

You can crowd a raised bed pretty tight, raising an amazing amount of
produce in a small space. But you're at the hand work level automatically.
I like the tractor for my soil preparation, my wheeled cultivator for weed
control, and the ability to walk around rather than lean to pick the peas.
Even watering, if it has to be done, only takes a drip hose at the roots of
a row crop.

Besides, what good's a garden if you don't grow enough zucchini to causse
your neighbors to slink away when they see you coming?

Gg

"George"

in reply to Puckdropper on 14/12/2007 9:30 AM

15/12/2007 12:46 AM


"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 9:30am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
> doth sayeth:
> I too traded my grass for dirt in one part of the yard. Grew tomatoes
> there.
>
> Who taught you how to garden? Dan Quayle?
>

Psst! That's how it's spelled.

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to Puckdropper on 14/12/2007 9:30 AM

15/12/2007 1:19 AM

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:14:15 GMT, Puckdropper <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Raised beds are more work than planting more plants.

We built 14 acres of raised beds on my brother-in-law's Organic CSA
farm.

Even with a backhoe, it sucked...

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to [email protected] on 13/12/2007 7:41 PM

14/12/2007 12:48 PM

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:41:42 -0500, "Skip Williams"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I have an uncle that lives near Boston. His favorite saying is that he is
>going to tie his snowblower to the front of his pickup truck and keep
>driving south until someone asked him "What the heck is that?". There he
>would retire.<g>

Consider that borrowed!

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

14/12/2007 3:31 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 9:47am (EST-1) [email protected] (samson) doth
> query: Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> Of course. On the other hand, just running it long enough,
> period,
> will eventually destroy it. If you're worried aboutit, use a shovel.
> If it was me, I'd adjust it enough so it wouldn't pick up an gravel.
> Or move. I chose door number 2.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
> them.
> - Picasso
>

Another alternative is for powder type snows. You can just use a leaf
blower to clear your driveway. I've done it a couple times with good
success.

Puckdropper
--
Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it.

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

JJ

in reply to Puckdropper on 14/12/2007 3:31 AM

14/12/2007 5:38 PM

Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 3:31am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
doth sayeth:
Another alternative is for powder type snows. You can just use a leaf
blower to clear your driveway. I've done it a couple times with good
success.

Sheesh. When I was a kid, IF we thought we had to clear a way
thru powder snow, besides just walking or driving thru it, we'd go out
with a broom and sweep it out of the way. A lot less bother than
measing with a leaf blower, probably more efficient, probably as fast or
faster, and one Hell of a lot quieter. And, you can do it at 0 dark 30
in the morning when you go out to drive to work, without waking up half
the neighborhood.



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 14/12/2007 3:31 AM

15/12/2007 1:08 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 3:31am (EST+5) [email protected] (Puckdropper)
> doth sayeth:
> Another alternative is for powder type snows. You can just use a leaf
> blower to clear your driveway. I've done it a couple times with good
> success.
>
> Sheesh. When I was a kid, IF we thought we had to clear a way
> thru powder snow, besides just walking or driving thru it, we'd go out
> with a broom and sweep it out of the way. A lot less bother than
> measing with a leaf blower, probably more efficient, probably as fast
> or faster, and one Hell of a lot quieter. And, you can do it at 0
> dark 30 in the morning when you go out to drive to work, without
> waking up half the neighborhood.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
> them.
> - Picasso
>
>

Sure, for small jobs by all mean pick up the broom. For driveway sized
jobs, though, I'd still reach for the leaf blower.

Puckdropper
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To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 1:26 PM


"George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> What fool would angle the chute toward a window?

Ya hadda go and ask that question, didn't ya?

--

-Mike-
[email protected]



No - not me. Remember, I plow.

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 1:54 PM

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:28:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh yeah - in case you're one of those who thinks that if a little
>is good, more must be better - don't get it into your head that if the lawn
>mower does a good job, the roto-tiller must do a better job...

We're in the middle of an ice storm.

By the looks if it, a roto-tiller will do a better job on this stuff
than the snowblower. <G>

RC

Robatoy

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 11:12 AM

On Dec 16, 1:19 pm, FrozenNorth <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tanus took a can of maroon spray paint on December 16, 2007 01:11 pm and
> wrote the following:
>
>
>
> > Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote:
> >> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:28:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Oh yeah - in case you're one of those who thinks that if a little
> >>> is good, more must be better - don't get it into your head that if the
> >>> lawn mower does a good job, the roto-tiller must do a better job...
>
> >> We're in the middle of an ice storm.
>
> >> By the looks if it, a roto-tiller will do a better job on this stuff
> >> than the snowblower. <G>
>
> > I'm north of you and it's just snow for
> > the moment. But a shitload of it. I've
> > shovelled twice and expect another
> > couple before dark. And that's just to
> > the woodsheds and shop. The rest of the
> > slogging will come when (if) it lets up.
> > I live on a small lake, and can't see
> > the other side, which is only about
> > 300yards.
>
> We are getting burried here, in Toronto.
> --
Have Mel call the military..LOL

Oh stop your whining...LOL Sarnia is getting a dusting too
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o290/Robatoy/snowDec16.jpg

Ff

FrozenNorth

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 6:19 PM

Tanus took a can of maroon spray paint on December 16, 2007 01:11 pm and
wrote the following:

> Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:28:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yeah - in case you're one of those who thinks that if a little
>>> is good, more must be better - don't get it into your head that if the
>>> lawn mower does a good job, the roto-tiller must do a better job...
>>
>> We're in the middle of an ice storm.
>>
>> By the looks if it, a roto-tiller will do a better job on this stuff
>> than the snowblower. <G>
>
> I'm north of you and it's just snow for
> the moment. But a shitload of it. I've
> shovelled twice and expect another
> couple before dark. And that's just to
> the woodsheds and shop. The rest of the
> slogging will come when (if) it lets up.
> I live on a small lake, and can't see
> the other side, which is only about
> 300yards.
>
We are getting burried here, in Toronto.
--
Lits Slut #9
Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code.

Jj

"Jon"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 6:50 PM

It will ruin the snow blower, that is why I picked up a "lot" of old
military flame burners. It is the same as what roofers use. I just stroll
behind my riding lawn mower and flame the stones, three maybe 4 passes and
done. I rigged up my flamer with biodiesel! You should hear the snow
flakes screaming as I melt those damn critters away from my gravel driveway.
Snap, Crackle and Pop were also hiding in there!

Jon


"samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

Tn

"Twayne"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 2:29 AM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> news:ThT8j.331$JW4.319@trnddc05...
>
>> I've had more trouble with ice chunks & debris
>> from
>> the snow plows than the grave in the driveway.
>
> If you go to flush mounted markers for that grave in
> the
> driveway you won't have so many problems. Those
> marble
> headstones are a bitch for snowblowers.

No, that's not it; it's the darned pieces of bodies
that keep popping up through it. They plug the auger,
chute, the whole thing. The headstones so far have all
been wooden ones.


Gg

"George"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 7:49 PM


"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "George" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>> No doubt it will, but depending on where you live, you may not care to
>> leave an extra inch of snow on the drive every time you clear it. Builds
>> up to several wheel-grabbing inches of slush with the thaw.
>>
>> Takes me 15 years on an impeller, half dozen on the shoes, but I think
>> it's worth it. 300" per year can close a driveway if you don't use a
>> blower.
>
> That's right around our average also. I don't blow it though - I prefer
> the warmth and comfort of my truck. I just push it wayyyyy back in the
> beginning of the winter.
>

Try just pushing a drive width less a foot and a half either side and
running the blower out and back. That's what I'm doing, but my drive's only
200' long. Hated trying to second-guess the snowfall based on woolly bears
and freezing out a big strip of lawn. .

Tn

"Twayne"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

17/12/2007 3:50 PM

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in
> message
> news:B409j.41415$rZ3.2077@trnddc07...
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>> "Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:ThT8j.331$JW4.319@trnddc05...
>>>
>>>> I've had more trouble with ice chunks & debris
>>>> from
>>>> the snow plows than the grave in the driveway.
>>>
>>> If you go to flush mounted markers for that grave
>>> in the
>>> driveway you won't have so many problems. Those
>>> marble
>>> headstones are a bitch for snowblowers.
>>
>> No, that's not it; it's the darned pieces of bodies
>> that
>> keep popping up through it. They plug the auger,
>> chute,
>> the whole thing. The headstones so far have all
>> been
>> wooden ones.
>
> Oh hell - that's easy to fix. Just run the lawn
> mower
> over the driveway before snowblowing - set on the
> lowest
> setting. That prep's the drive nicely. Oh yeah - in
> case you're one of those who thinks that if a little
> is
> good, more must be better - don't get it into your
> head
> that if the lawn mower does a good job, the
> roto-tiller
> must do a better job...

LOL!

JE

"John E."

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

17/12/2007 2:01 AM


"Tanus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...


>" I live on a small lake..."

> Tanus


Must be fun when the ice melts...does the basement get a little wet?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

John E.

Tn

"Twayne"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

15/12/2007 4:29 PM

samson wrote:
> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.

Hasn't hurt my '83 Ariens 10 HP 2 stage. Set the
scraper a little higher to start so you don't actually
scrape gravel into it. Once a crust forms, and it
won't be slippery unless you get ice storms, you can
set the feet back down.
I've had more trouble with ice chunks & debris from
the snow plows than the grave in the driveway. Had to
replace a shear pin a few times, but nothing was
damaged and all worked great afterwards. But I do keep
shear pins handy<g>.
Ya just gotta keep up the PM on them. PM =
Preventive Maintenance; sorry.

JW

Jim Willemin

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 10:09 AM

samson <[email protected]> wrote in news:MPG.21cb101fe0e9bcef9898e7@news-
server.wi.rr.com:

> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.
>

I'd raise the scraper blade a bit, leave maybe half an inch of snow on the
drive, which you could then easily shovel if you need to get down to clean
gravel. If you start to pick up stones in the snowblower you'll wind up
chucking those rocks in the discharge stream at reasonable velocity, with
the potential for damage or injury to anything in that general direction.
And yeah, I'd expect damage to the machine if you scrape up lots of gravel.
Also, watch out for ruts and bumps and stuff like that - you could be going
along fine, then blooey, just because the drive is not perfectly flat.
Good luck.

b

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 7:08 AM

On Dec 14, 9:46 am, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Dec 13, 8:47 am, samson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> S.
>
> > snow? what's that? and why would you want to blow on it?
>
> > Bridger, in Tucson, where we are getting chilly nights down into the
> > 40s.
>
> Thought you had headed out to California?
>
> Having to turn on the heater to take the chill out of the shop because of
> that low 40's temperature.
>
> --
> If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

last trip to Ca. was to haul back some arn. traded in my powermatic
table saw and got a rockwell 12/14, a rockwell 16" radial arm saw and
a davis and wells horizontal mortiser.

I did sell my house on the south side, though. bought one in the old
neighborhood, a few blocks from my Mom's house. kind of interesting to
be back- a lot has changed, but a lot is the same, too.

at the moment all of my machinery is in storage while I build the new
shop. this time I'm doing a few things better- floor outlets, dust
collection under the slab- hoping to even get an overhead trolley in
before too long.

Nn

Nova

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 5:40 PM

George wrote:
>
> "samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
>
> No doubt it will, but depending on where you live, you may not care to
> leave an extra inch of snow on the drive every time you clear it.
> Builds up to several wheel-grabbing inches of slush with the thaw.
>
> Takes me 15 years on an impeller, half dozen on the shoes, but I think
> it's worth it. 300" per year can close a driveway if you don't use a
> blower.

How is it on shear pins and windows?

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 8:28 AM


"Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:B409j.41415$rZ3.2077@trnddc07...
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>> "Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:ThT8j.331$JW4.319@trnddc05...
>>
>>> I've had more trouble with ice chunks & debris from
>>> the snow plows than the grave in the driveway.
>>
>> If you go to flush mounted markers for that grave in the
>> driveway you won't have so many problems. Those marble
>> headstones are a bitch for snowblowers.
>
> No, that's not it; it's the darned pieces of bodies that keep popping up
> through it. They plug the auger, chute, the whole thing. The headstones
> so far have all been wooden ones.
>

Oh hell - that's easy to fix. Just run the lawn mower over the driveway
before snowblowing - set on the lowest setting. That prep's the drive
nicely. Oh yeah - in case you're one of those who thinks that if a little
is good, more must be better - don't get it into your head that if the lawn
mower does a good job, the roto-tiller must do a better job...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

RC

Robatoy

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 7:47 PM

Whoa, Tanus, Dude! I see you may have gotten a little more snow than I
expected. The whole snowy mess kinda made a sweep towards you... My
Gatineau friend assures me that he also got an assload of the white
shit.

Just can't trust them there satellite thangs....

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

15/12/2007 11:57 AM


"Twayne" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ThT8j.331$JW4.319@trnddc05...

> I've had more trouble with ice chunks & debris from the snow plows than
> the grave in the driveway.

If you go to flush mounted markers for that grave in the driveway you won't
have so many problems. Those marble headstones are a bitch for snowblowers.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

15/12/2007 7:18 PM

Twayne wrote:
> samson wrote:
>> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> S.
>
> Hasn't hurt my '83 Ariens 10 HP 2 stage. Set the
> scraper a little higher to start so you don't actually
> scrape gravel into it. Once a crust forms, and it
> won't be slippery unless you get ice storms, you can
> set the feet back down.
> I've had more trouble with ice chunks & debris from
> the snow plows than the grave in the driveway. Had to
> replace a shear pin a few times, but nothing was
> damaged and all worked great afterwards. But I do keep
> shear pins handy<g>.
> Ya just gotta keep up the PM on them. PM =
> Preventive Maintenance; sorry.

Speaking of PM, kid next door has been shovelling my drive for years.
This year he's got a real job so he's not doing that anymore. So
tried to start the snowblower and it cranked and cranked and nothing
happened. Last time I ran it I didn't run it dry and didn't put fuel
stabilizer in it (I think that that was the year that I had to go out
of town on an emergency that lasted until after the last snowfall).
Never overhauled a Tecumseh carb before. Can't say I much like the
design of the thing--idle screw is placed so that you're guaranteed to
burn your hand on the exhaust for one thing.

He's been mowing the lawn too so come spring I probably get to
overhaul the carb on the lawn mower.


--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

JJ

in reply to "J. Clarke" on 15/12/2007 7:18 PM

15/12/2007 8:58 PM

Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 7:18pm [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke) laments:
<snip> Never overhauled a Tecumseh carb before.

Try this instead.
http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/pplmwr.htm



JOAT
I do things I don't know how to do, so that I might learn how to do
them.
- Picasso

TT

Tanus

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 1:11 PM

Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:28:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah - in case you're one of those who thinks that if a little
>> is good, more must be better - don't get it into your head that if the lawn
>> mower does a good job, the roto-tiller must do a better job...
>
> We're in the middle of an ice storm.
>
> By the looks if it, a roto-tiller will do a better job on this stuff
> than the snowblower. <G>

I'm north of you and it's just snow for
the moment. But a shitload of it. I've
shovelled twice and expect another
couple before dark. And that's just to
the woodsheds and shop. The rest of the
slogging will come when (if) it lets up.
I live on a small lake, and can't see
the other side, which is only about
300yards.

--
Tanus

This is not really a sig.

http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/

TT

Tanus

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 3:27 PM

FrozenNorth wrote:
> Tanus took a can of maroon spray paint on December 16, 2007 01:11 pm and
> wrote the following:
>
>> Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:28:25 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh yeah - in case you're one of those who thinks that if a little
>>>> is good, more must be better - don't get it into your head that if the
>>>> lawn mower does a good job, the roto-tiller must do a better job...
>>> We're in the middle of an ice storm.
>>>
>>> By the looks if it, a roto-tiller will do a better job on this stuff
>>> than the snowblower. <G>
>> I'm north of you and it's just snow for
>> the moment. But a shitload of it. I've
>> shovelled twice and expect another
>> couple before dark. And that's just to
>> the woodsheds and shop. The rest of the
>> slogging will come when (if) it lets up.
>> I live on a small lake, and can't see
>> the other side, which is only about
>> 300yards.
>>
> We are getting burried here, in Toronto.

I have a 4x4 Silverado and the house is
about half a mile from the main road.
Just after I posted, I decided to run
out to see if I could. If it was too
heavy, tomorrow was gonna be a snow day.
Transfer cases were dragging and there
was one hill/curve combo that nearly
stopped me. I got out and back in but
wouldn't do it again.

Snow plow just arrived (private road -
private plowing) and that same run would
be much easier. BUT - this doesn't look
like it's letting up anytime soon. And
another 10-15 cm forecast. It may be a
snow day yet, tomorrow.

--
Tanus

This is not really a sig.

http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/

TT

Tanus

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

16/12/2007 10:15 PM

John E. wrote:
> "Tanus" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
>
>> " I live on a small lake..."
>
>> Tanus
>
>
> Must be fun when the ice melts...does the basement get a little wet?
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist.
>
> John E.
>
>

Gotta watch what I say. That's the
second time this week.

But ...no basement.....so if the house
were on the lake, I'd either be
floating.....or not...then I'd be living
in the lake. For a short period of time.

I"m sure SWMBO would have something to
say about that.

--
Tanus

This is not really a sig.

http://www.home.mycybernet.net/~waugh/shop/

AE

Andrew Erickson

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 6:20 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"George" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:a8e8j.6757$va7.1157@trndny08...
> > George wrote:
> >
> > How is it on shear pins and windows?
> >
>
> Gravel doesn't shear pins, but twigs and rocks, not to mention those big
> hard salt/sand lumps that hang under our rust-belt vehicles until they drop
> to ambush the snowblower can...

My experience was that driveway gravel is carefully sized to be
precisely 1 mm larger than the clearance between the auger and the
casing of a snowblower. Just barely big enough to get firmly wedged
between them, precisely where it's hardest to whack them out with a
hammer or whatever's handy. Must be they use different gravel down your
way.

Replacing shear pins is a pain, but it beats the alternative by a long
shot (e.g. replacing gearboxes).

--
Andrew Erickson

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot
lose." -- Jim Elliot

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 6:32 PM

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:26:11 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What fool would angle the chute toward a window?
>
>Ya hadda go and ask that question, didn't ya?


DAMHIKT - Cold vinyl siding... <G>

Gg

"George"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 5:10 PM


"samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> Thanks,

No doubt it will, but depending on where you live, you may not care to leave
an extra inch of snow on the drive every time you clear it. Builds up to
several wheel-grabbing inches of slush with the thaw.

Takes me 15 years on an impeller, half dozen on the shoes, but I think it's
worth it. 300" per year can close a driveway if you don't use a blower.

Gg

"George"

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 6:14 PM


"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:a8e8j.6757$va7.1157@trndny08...
> George wrote:
>>
>> "samson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> No doubt it will, but depending on where you live, you may not care to
>> leave an extra inch of snow on the drive every time you clear it. Builds
>> up to several wheel-grabbing inches of slush with the thaw.
>>
>> Takes me 15 years on an impeller, half dozen on the shoes, but I think
>> it's worth it. 300" per year can close a driveway if you don't use a
>> blower.
>
> How is it on shear pins and windows?
>

Gravel doesn't shear pins, but twigs and rocks, not to mention those big
hard salt/sand lumps that hang under our rust-belt vehicles until they drop
to ambush the snowblower can. I have an unopened package of five that I
bought three years ago after breaking the spare I'd received with the blower
for ten years. Piece of firewood took that one. Waiting on the next one,
but it's not going to happen until it's multiple degrees below and multiple
inches deep, you can bet.

What fool would angle the chute toward a window?

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to samson on 13/12/2007 9:47 AM

13/12/2007 10:05 PM

samson wrote:
> Will this destroy the snowblower over time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> S.
Sorry I can't help. I never saw one.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

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