"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> When you write, "there's a number of programs that monitor user usage and
> then adjust themselves", do you mean add-ons or within MS? I know MS OSs
> have some such aps within, but they seem far from adaptive.
I was talking mainly from within the OS, but we're starting to see other
programs behave in the same way. I do admit though, that there's a general
fear, (and not necessarily unfounded) that if we let programs fix themselves
without intervention, then we open ourselves up to unwitting manipulation
from the technologically adept. Hell, we could even be on the cusp of
self-awareness for all I know and the "Terminator" movies might not be too
far off from reality.
> Now, as I just finished that, I do realize that I have turned off error
> reporting (too many clicks to clear and not enough clarity as to what is
> and is not sent). So, maybe XP COULD do all this great stuff if I let it.
I think as long as we get the option to turn something off or let it run at
its inception, then at least we've maintained a modicrum of control. That
control might very well be, probably *is* an illusion, but it's one that
gives a semblence of comfort.
> Anyway, this stuff would be great. I don't trust MS -- not because it is
a
> monolith (notwithstanding Linux). Maybe I've missed it, but I have never
> seen MS issue a security patch that said, "We found a problem and here is
> the patch..."
Found a problem on your system, or found a problem in general? If they came
to you and said they'd found a problem on your system, then they could well
be accused of spying on personal property. As far as finding problems in
general, I think they do that all the time, at least in respect to improving
system performance or capability. Of course that's open to discussion as to
whether things are improving or just becoming more bloated.
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 02:05:46 GMT, dave in Fairfax <[email protected]>
wrote:
>You must be new around here. Nerds indeed. As for SP2, load it
>at your own peril.
My two machines went flawlessly. They were previously current on
patches. However, I don't run much more than the Office suite, 'net
apps, photo painting, and financial apps at home. Zone Alarm and
Norton AV even cooperated nicely.
Barry
Have you run Spybot Search and Destroy, Ad-aware and www.moosoft.com
's The Cleaner? I have found plenty of machines filled with junk that
slows them down. After cleaning up with all three tools customers have
stated that they have never seen the machine boot up so fast. I also
get in to the registry to clean up anything I consider junk. You can
use msconfig from the run line to do some stuff similar to the
registry edits without the risk of fat finger incorrect edits.
Tom Veatch <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Yes I know its off topic, and yes I am more of a nerd than I am of a
>>'wreck', but I will say one thing and drop the discussion unless asked for
>>specifics.
>>
>>If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all information
>>on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been many successful
>>installations of this program, and there have been as many not so successful
>>installations. So be smart, be safe and come out ahead.
>>
>>
>
>WinXP SP2 is looking more and more reminiscent of Windows NT SP2. Now there was
>one unmitigated disaster.
>
>I'm beginning to think my install of XP SP2 was one of the "not so successful"
>you alluded to. All the programs I've tried since the install seem to function
>correctly, but the OS itself is acting mighty puny. My 1.4GHz machine is acting
>its only running on a few of those Hz - among a host of other symptoms. Oh well,
>it's been a while since I wiped the drives and reloaded the OS. Maybe that will
>be my labor for Labor Day. Yeah, I know, you are supposed to be able to
>uninstall it. But my experience has been OS upgrades and SP uninstall's are
>simply wastes of time that leave things so dirty it takes more time and effort
>to clean out the stables than if you did a clean install to begin with.
>
>I didn't want to chop all those mortises anyway.
>
>Tom Veatch
>Wichita, KS USA
RKG wrote:
> Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well microsoft is
> supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order it
> here.
You must be new around here. Nerds indeed. As for SP2, load it
at your own peril. A lot of the commercial programs won't run
after you install it.
Dave in Fairfax
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Leon wrote:
>
> I put it on 3 different computers last week and between the 3 computers
> probably 100 well known and not well known programs. Absolutely no
> problems.
IBM was the first to refuse to put it on their systems, DoD
security warned against it. YMMV
Dave in Fairfax
--
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use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
http://www.woodturner.org
Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/
Leon wrote:
> After scanning with AdAware and SpyBot, Think about installing Spy Blaster.
> Its Free, "does not" run in the back ground and since I installed it 3
> months ago, SpyBot And AdAware find NOTHING any more.
> It tweaks IE to filter and block the names that SpyBot and AdAware are
> looking for.
>
The makers of "Spyware Blaster" also have a free program called "Spyware Guard".
It runs in the background and prevents the spyware from being installed. I've
been running it for about a week and it seems to be working. See:
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
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igor wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:32:06 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >A friends Dell did this, Dell responded, give it a few days and everything
> >would be better. And it was.
> >
> Leon -- First, I do not deny to you any of this. But, I do read lots of
> on-line news every day about consumer/PC tech and have not (yet) seen this.
> I also went to some MS MVP XP websites and could not find mention of it.
> I'd love to see a press story w/ an official Dell/MS (or any PC-Co)
> explanation. In this thread, George mentions disk optimization. I am
> extremely skeptical about that in this instance. A single reboot I can see
> for reg revisions, but a *gradual* self-repair - like a white blood-cell
> defense to a bio virus? I'd be fascinated to see that this IS true. But I
> wait in special skepticism. Thanks for the additional post about Dell. --
> Igor
My guess would be the "Indexing Service" of SP2 has to reindex the drive. I
keep this service set to "manual" and did not notice any slow down after
installing SP2.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
(Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
Theoretically possible. It's optimized the new software locations on the
disc after a few swaps.
"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 02:46:57 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >When I installed the SP2 pack my computer operated very slowly for about
2
> >days.. Now, everything is back up to speed. I recall someone saying
that
> >it would be a day or 2 before everything seemed to be running at regular
> >speed.
> >
>
> Oh, so now our computers have adaptive AI in them? 48 hour flu? A tank
of
> bad gas? Actually, I have seen such inexplicable behaviour. Weird.
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yes I know its off topic, and yes I am more of a nerd than I am of a
>'wreck', but I will say one thing and drop the discussion unless asked for
>specifics.
>
>If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all information
>on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been many successful
>installations of this program, and there have been as many not so successful
>installations. So be smart, be safe and come out ahead.
>
Do you know if XP's "restore" works after SP2 to go back before SP2? Or is
it too big? -- Igor
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:55:00 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>You may want to wait longer as SP3 will correct what SP2.5 screws up.
I'm starting to get more and more to the "if it isn't broke, don't fix
it" state of mind. My software is all running reasonably well (having
trouble with Teranews, but that's not a machine problem); why mess with it?
I really don't want to spend a day reloading stuff.
>
>"RPRESHONG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well microsoft
>> >is
>>>supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order
>>>it
>>>here.
>>
>> Thanks but I'll wait for SP2.5
>
Yeah the SpyBlaster prevents the spyware from being installed also as long
as you have the least definitions. I prefer to not have something in the
back ground not running. So far Spyware blaster has prevented anything from
being installed. I recall thinking that AdAware and SpyBot were not working
properly as suddenly they were not finding anything after installing
Spyware Blaster. I uninstalled both and reinstalled both. Still they find
nothing.
"Nova" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>
>> After scanning with AdAware and SpyBot, Think about installing Spy
>> Blaster.
>> Its Free, "does not" run in the back ground and since I installed it 3
>> months ago, SpyBot And AdAware find NOTHING any more.
>> It tweaks IE to filter and block the names that SpyBot and AdAware are
>> looking for.
>>
>
> The makers of "Spyware Blaster" also have a free program called "Spyware
> Guard".
> It runs in the background and prevents the spyware from being installed.
> I've
> been running it for about a week and it seems to be working. See:
>
> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareguard.html
>
> --
> Jack Novak
> Buffalo, NY - USA
> (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply)
>
>
It is a security update. Redundant if you already have adequate computer
security. I had to uninstall it because internet explorer and outlook
express became painfully slow. Might not be true for those without an
existing security program.
Larry
"RKG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well microsoft
is
> supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order
it
> here.
>
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx
>
> Rick
>
>
dave in Fairfax wrote:
> RKG wrote:
>
>>Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well microsoft is
>>supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order it
>>here.
>
>
> You must be new around here. Nerds indeed. As for SP2, load it
> at your own peril. A lot of the commercial programs won't run
> after you install it.
> Dave in Fairfax
Did mine as part of the free Windows update service, no problems at all.
Grandpa
"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Aa1%[email protected]...
> It is a security update. Redundant if you already have adequate computer
> security. I had to uninstall it because internet explorer and outlook
> express became painfully slow. Might not be true for those without an
> existing security program.
When I installed the SP2 pack my computer operated very slowly for about 2
days.. Now, everything is back up to speed. I recall someone saying that
it would be a day or 2 before everything seemed to be running at regular
speed.
You can simply use uninstall to uninstall SP2 if you want.
"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Yes I know its off topic, and yes I am more of a nerd than I am of a
>>'wreck', but I will say one thing and drop the discussion unless asked for
>>specifics.
>>
>>If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all
>>information
>>on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been many successful
>>installations of this program, and there have been as many not so
>>successful
>>installations. So be smart, be safe and come out ahead.
>>
>
> Do you know if XP's "restore" works after SP2 to go back before SP2? Or
> is
> it too big? -- Igor
After scanning with AdAware and SpyBot, Think about installing Spy Blaster.
Its Free, "does not" run in the back ground and since I installed it 3
months ago, SpyBot And AdAware find NOTHING any more.
It tweaks IE to filter and block the names that SpyBot and AdAware are
looking for.
"Jim Behning" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Have you run Spybot Search and Destroy, Ad-aware and www.moosoft.com
> 's The Cleaner? I have found plenty of machines filled with junk that
> slows them down. After cleaning up with all three tools customers have
> stated that they have never seen the machine boot up so fast. I also
> get in to the registry to clean up anything I consider junk. You can
> use msconfig from the run line to do some stuff similar to the
> registry edits without the risk of fat finger incorrect edits.
>
> Tom Veatch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes I know its off topic, and yes I am more of a nerd than I am of a
>>>'wreck', but I will say one thing and drop the discussion unless asked
>>>for
>>>specifics.
>>>
>>>If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all
>>>information
>>>on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been many successful
>>>installations of this program, and there have been as many not so
>>>successful
>>>installations. So be smart, be safe and come out ahead.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>WinXP SP2 is looking more and more reminiscent of Windows NT SP2. Now
>>there was
>>one unmitigated disaster.
>>
>>I'm beginning to think my install of XP SP2 was one of the "not so
>>successful"
>>you alluded to. All the programs I've tried since the install seem to
>>function
>>correctly, but the OS itself is acting mighty puny. My 1.4GHz machine is
>>acting
>>its only running on a few of those Hz - among a host of other symptoms. Oh
>>well,
>>it's been a while since I wiped the drives and reloaded the OS. Maybe that
>>will
>>be my labor for Labor Day. Yeah, I know, you are supposed to be able to
>>uninstall it. But my experience has been OS upgrades and SP uninstall's
>>are
>>simply wastes of time that leave things so dirty it takes more time and
>>effort
>>to clean out the stables than if you did a clean install to begin with.
>>
>>I didn't want to chop all those mortises anyway.
>>
>>Tom Veatch
>>Wichita, KS USA
>
You may want to wait longer as SP3 will correct what SP2.5 screws up.
"RPRESHONG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well microsoft
> >is
>>supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order
>>it
>>here.
>
> Thanks but I'll wait for SP2.5
Tom Veatch <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Yes I know its off topic, and yes I am more of a nerd than I am of a
>>'wreck', but I will say one thing and drop the discussion unless asked
>>for specifics.
>>
>>If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all
>>information on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been
>>many successful installations of this program, and there have been as
>>many not so successful installations. So be smart, be safe and come
>>out ahead.
>>
>>
>
> WinXP SP2 is looking more and more reminiscent of Windows NT SP2. Now
> there was one unmitigated disaster.
>
<snip>
>
> Tom Veatch
> Wichita, KS USA
>
I just purchased a new hard drive for my Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop, as
well as an "EZ-Gig II" upgrade kit. The kit is a USB connected way to
copy the old hard drive first to the new hard drive. Then you swap the
drives. After that you permanently mount the old hard drive in the
included enclosure and you have a backup (or extra) USB-connected hard
drive. Wipe that drive and use the included software to make an image of
the copied hard drive, and you have an instant go-back option. Hard drive
images have saved my ass more than once. Saving ash is a future
objective.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
"Old Nick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> vaguely
> proposed a theory
> ......and in reply I say!:
>
> remove ns from my header address to reply via email
>
> Thank you for the perspective.
>
> I hope it's a true one. In both directions we hear "It sux" or "It
> works for me"
I have a feeling it all has to do with how stable your system is to start
with. I do not think SP2 is going to fix present problems.
Yes relatively new been lurking for about a year with the odd comment, and
only been woodworking for about 2 years since I retired. Small town I am in
does not have high speed internet and like the security update cd they came
out with earlier this year it's handy to have the stuff on cd and not have
to re download every time you rebuild your computer.
Like anything from microsloth you use at your own risk back everything up
before you install it. Some people have had no problem at all and for
others it's a major headache.
Rick
"dave in Fairfax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> RKG wrote:
> > Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well
microsoft is
> > supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order
it
> > here.
>
> You must be new around here. Nerds indeed. As for SP2, load it
> at your own peril. A lot of the commercial programs won't run
> after you install it.
> Dave in Fairfax
> --
> Dave Leader
> reply-to doesn't work
> use:
> daveldr at att dot net
> American Association of Woodturners
> http://www.woodturner.org
> Capital Area Woodturners
> http://www.capwoodturners.org/
That was information from a technician given to a friend. I took that into
consideration when I installed SP2 on 3 Dell's last week. They all ran and
"especially booted slowly for a day or 2". Now everything seems normal on
all 3 units.
"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:32:06 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>A friends Dell did this, Dell responded, give it a few days and everything
>>would be better. And it was.
>>
> Leon -- First, I do not deny to you any of this. But, I do read lots of
> on-line news every day about consumer/PC tech and have not (yet) seen
> this.
> I also went to some MS MVP XP websites and could not find mention of it.
> I'd love to see a press story w/ an official Dell/MS (or any PC-Co)
> explanation. In this thread, George mentions disk optimization. I am
> extremely skeptical about that in this instance. A single reboot I can
> see
> for reg revisions, but a *gradual* self-repair - like a white blood-cell
> defense to a bio virus? I'd be fascinated to see that this IS true. But
> I
> wait in special skepticism. Thanks for the additional post about Dell. --
> Igor
Dave,
I think you should seperate corporate network machines from home machines.
Corporate networks really don't need the enhance security features of SP2.
Most IS guys have blocked SP2 from their systems because they already have
firewalls and protection. For home users, I think it's a different game. I
updated mine two days ago and no problems, plus I like the new security
features.
Bernie
"dave in Fairfax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Leon wrote:
>>
>> I put it on 3 different computers last week and between the 3 computers
>> probably 100 well known and not well known programs. Absolutely no
>> problems.
>
> IBM was the first to refuse to put it on their systems, DoD
> security warned against it. YMMV
> Dave in Fairfax
> --
> Dave Leader
> reply-to doesn't work
> use:
> daveldr at att dot net
> American Association of Woodturners
> http://www.woodturner.org
> Capital Area Woodturners
> http://www.capwoodturners.org/
Bernie Hunt wrote:
> Dave,
>
> I think you should seperate corporate network machines from home machines.
> Corporate networks really don't need the enhance security features of SP2.
> Most IS guys have blocked SP2 from their systems because they already have
> firewalls and protection. For home users, I think it's a different game. I
> updated mine two days ago and no problems, plus I like the new security
> features.
In big shops unless there is an urgent need nothing, including bugfixes,
gets rolled out until it's been tested against the standard software
loadout for that shop. On my own machines I install Microsoft's updates
as soon as they are released, however to get work done I use Linux and
Novell so if the Microsoft machines die it's no big deal.
> Bernie
>
> "dave in Fairfax" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>> I put it on 3 different computers last week and between the 3 computers
>>> probably 100 well known and not well known programs. Absolutely no
>>> problems.
>>
>> IBM was the first to refuse to put it on their systems, DoD
>> security warned against it. YMMV
>> Dave in Fairfax
>> --
>> Dave Leader
>> reply-to doesn't work
>> use:
>> daveldr at att dot net
>> American Association of Woodturners
>> http://www.woodturner.org
>> Capital Area Woodturners
>> http://www.capwoodturners.org/
--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Yes I know its off topic, and yes I am more of a nerd than I am of a
'wreck', but I will say one thing and drop the discussion unless asked for
specifics.
If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all information
on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been many successful
installations of this program, and there have been as many not so successful
installations. So be smart, be safe and come out ahead.
Clif
Going back to the shadows
"Mike S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the link. I downloaded it on this machine but didn't save the
> download and need to install it on a couple of others. Also need to update
> my daughters computer and she lives in the boonies with a dialup speed of
> 21.4.
>
> --
> Mike S.
> [email protected]
> http://members.tripod.com/n0yii/woodworking.htm
> "RKG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well
microsoft
> > is
> > supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order
> > it
> > here.
> >
> >
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
>
>
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> vaguely
proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email
Thank you for the perspective.
I hope it's a true one. In both directions we hear "It sux" or "It
works for me"
>If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all information
>on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been many successful
>installations of this program, and there have been as many not so successful
>installations. So be smart, be safe and come out ahead.
>
>
>Clif
>
*****************************************************
I know I am wrong about just about everything. So I
am not going to listen when I am told I am wrong about
the things I know I am right about.
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:32:06 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>A friends Dell did this, Dell responded, give it a few days and everything
>would be better. And it was.
>
Leon -- First, I do not deny to you any of this. But, I do read lots of
on-line news every day about consumer/PC tech and have not (yet) seen this.
I also went to some MS MVP XP websites and could not find mention of it.
I'd love to see a press story w/ an official Dell/MS (or any PC-Co)
explanation. In this thread, George mentions disk optimization. I am
extremely skeptical about that in this instance. A single reboot I can see
for reg revisions, but a *gradual* self-repair - like a white blood-cell
defense to a bio virus? I'd be fascinated to see that this IS true. But I
wait in special skepticism. Thanks for the additional post about Dell. --
Igor
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:41:29 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> extremely skeptical about that in this instance. A single reboot I can
>see
>> for reg revisions, but a *gradual* self-repair - like a white blood-cell
>> defense to a bio virus? I'd be fascinated to see that this IS true. But
>I
>
>Igor, there's a number of programs that monitor user usage and then adjust
>themselves accordingly. XP even in it's most basic, no service pack
>installed form, is capable of doing some of these tasks. If you're a user of
>XP, have you ever had it offer to clean up unused programs or perhaps, to
>get rid of little used icons on your desktop? It's just a time/dated routine
>that runs in the background and monitors when a program was last used.
>
Upscale --
When you write, "there's a number of programs that monitor user usage and
then adjust themselves", do you mean add-ons or within MS? I know MS OSs
have some such aps within, but they seem far from adaptive. More like
taskmgr stuff. Then there are e.g. Norton System Works aps. BTW, as may
be apparent, I am NOT an OS guy. Just an advanced user.
Restore or registry reversion, or a defrag (all of which I do manually,
though I suppose they can be auto-done) can improve performance. But I
have never had a series of blue screens, or even lesser issues, fixed
automatically. I've never even had overall slow performance solved
automatically -- unless you call a surprise crash (beyond blue sceen right
to reboot) and a reboot an autofix. For example, I have an XP machine P2P
to a 98 machine. When the XP machine lists files on the 98 machine, there
can be a long delay. In the past week I found a registry tweak for this at
an MS MVP (i.e., non-MS) site. Now, XP could have seen that it was taking
too long (by some measure) to show a list of files via the network and
looked on its own to the MS KB for the tweak. There is an MS article about
it - and while MS apparently knows about the tweak they do not show it,
IIRC.
Now, as I just finished that, I do realize that I have turned off error
reporting (too many clicks to clear and not enough clarity as to what is
and is not sent). So, maybe XP COULD do all this great stuff if I let it.
Anyway, this stuff would be great. I don't trust MS -- not because it is a
monolith (notwithstanding Linux). Maybe I've missed it, but I have never
seen MS issue a security patch that said, "We found a problem and here is
the patch..." Have THEY ever paid a bunch of Russians to ty to crack
Windows or the MS server? MS says it will start selling AV software. It's
like buying insurance from Masterlock against the possibility that someone
will pick your Masterlock lock. I want A to watch B, not B to watch
itself. Anyway, sorry for the mini-rant. I do appreciate your taking the
time to make the points you have. -- Igor
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 04:47:55 +0000, Tom Veatch wrote:
> I'm beginning to think my install of XP SP2 was one of the "not so
> successful" you alluded to. All the programs I've tried since the install
> seem to function correctly, but the OS itself is acting mighty puny. My
> 1.4GHz machine is acting its only running on a few of those Hz - among a
> host of other symptoms.
There have been reports that the CPU driver in SP2 is causing fits with
some systems (particularly Dells). You may want to Google around for that.
--
Joe Wells
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 02:46:57 GMT, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:Aa1%[email protected]...
>> It is a security update. Redundant if you already have adequate computer
>> security. I had to uninstall it because internet explorer and outlook
>> express became painfully slow. Might not be true for those without an
>> existing security program.
>
>
>
>When I installed the SP2 pack my computer operated very slowly for about 2
>days.. Now, everything is back up to speed. I recall someone saying that
>it would be a day or 2 before everything seemed to be running at regular
>speed.
>
Oh, so now our computers have adaptive AI in them? 48 hour flu? A tank of
bad gas? Actually, I have seen such inexplicable behaviour. Weird.
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:02:03 GMT, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Found a problem on your system, or found a problem in general? If they came
>to you and said they'd found a problem on your system, then they could well
>be accused of spying on personal property. As far as finding problems in
>general, I think they do that all the time, at least in respect to improving
>system performance or capability. Of course that's open to discussion as to
>whether things are improving or just becoming more bloated.
>
I meant "WE [MS] found a security hole..." Every Windows security patch I
recall has been in response to a security hole found by some non-MS entity.
"igor" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> extremely skeptical about that in this instance. A single reboot I can
see
> for reg revisions, but a *gradual* self-repair - like a white blood-cell
> defense to a bio virus? I'd be fascinated to see that this IS true. But
I
Igor, there's a number of programs that monitor user usage and then adjust
themselves accordingly. XP even in it's most basic, no service pack
installed form, is capable of doing some of these tasks. If you're a user of
XP, have you ever had it offer to clean up unused programs or perhaps, to
get rid of little used icons on your desktop? It's just a time/dated routine
that runs in the background and monitors when a program was last used.
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 03:04:40 GMT, "Clif" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Yes I know its off topic, and yes I am more of a nerd than I am of a
>'wreck', but I will say one thing and drop the discussion unless asked for
>specifics.
>
>If you plan on installing MSWINDOWS XP SP 2, please back up all information
>on your computer in the event of a crash. There have been many successful
>installations of this program, and there have been as many not so successful
>installations. So be smart, be safe and come out ahead.
>
>
WinXP SP2 is looking more and more reminiscent of Windows NT SP2. Now there was
one unmitigated disaster.
I'm beginning to think my install of XP SP2 was one of the "not so successful"
you alluded to. All the programs I've tried since the install seem to function
correctly, but the OS itself is acting mighty puny. My 1.4GHz machine is acting
its only running on a few of those Hz - among a host of other symptoms. Oh well,
it's been a while since I wiped the drives and reloaded the OS. Maybe that will
be my labor for Labor Day. Yeah, I know, you are supposed to be able to
uninstall it. But my experience has been OS upgrades and SP uninstall's are
simply wastes of time that leave things so dirty it takes more time and effort
to clean out the stables than if you did a clean install to begin with.
I didn't want to chop all those mortises anyway.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA
Thanks for the link. I downloaded it on this machine but didn't save the
download and need to install it on a couple of others. Also need to update
my daughters computer and she lives in the boonies with a dialup speed of
21.4.
--
Mike S.
[email protected]
http://members.tripod.com/n0yii/woodworking.htm
"RKG" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just in case some of you are computer nerds like myself as well microsoft
> is
> supplying the service pack 2 for XP on cd free of charge. You can order
> it
> here.
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx
>
> Rick
>
>