933. That's correct. In America it's called a cam.
934. Microtome. slices thin tissue sections in wax for looking at with
a microscope.
935. Probably Correct. Caltrop. Size would help to indicate whethter
it's tires or people.
936. I think pencil sharpener too.
938, A handheld hook for grabbing things.
Thanks
Karl
On Mar 21, 11:25 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
On Mar 22, 5:25 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
938 is a smaller version of a "hookaroon" to handle firewood lengths
as opposed to logs, the bigger version has about a 30" handle.
On Mar 22, 5:25 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
http://shopping.msn.com/specs/shp/?itemId=383823918
One of the few times I'm very confident in my response to a question
on this site. My two passions are woodworking and rock climbing, and
this, my friends, as some have indicated is definitely a cam for rock
climbing. The above address will link you to more information if you
are interested, though I'm sorry it didn't seem to paste as a link.
On Mar 22, 4:25 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
933 is the business end of what are called in the climbing biz as
"protection". Specifically a Cam device.
http://www.acmeclimbing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=337
On Mar 24, 6:45 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >934) ... It would be interesting to see other views, to see whether there
> > is some provision for adjusting the thickness per slice.
>
> I don't own the microtome but might see it again next weekend, if so I'll
> take a few more shots.
>
> Six of the seven have been answered correctly this week, please see the
> answer page for more details:
>
> http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
I'll get a better translation in a day from some multilingual friends,
but the best I can translate the chinese characters on the bottom of
938a tells me it says something like "wooden tool department". The
first character is a bit hard to tell, since the top of the character
is mugged up; without a radical on top, it actually means 'shell',
which doesn't make sense to me. The middle character is 'cai', which
means wood, and the bottom one is 'bu' which means department.
I don't know of many regions where they train elephants and use
Chinese characters, so the fish picaroon seems more likely to me.
--riverman
On Mar 23, 6:45 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >934) ... It would be interesting to see other views, to see whether there
> > is some provision for adjusting the thickness per slice.
>
> I don't own the microtome but might see it again next weekend, if so I'll
> take a few more shots.
>
> Six of the seven have been answered correctly this week, please see the
> answer page for more details:
>
> http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
Hey Rob. I don't think that the tool pictured in 938 has anything to
do with elephants, though similar looking tools are used in that
application. Here's a link that shows various types of elephant
hooks. http://www.upali.ch/hook_en.html The second tool picture,
938a, has Chinese or Japanese writing on the butt of the handle, and
Asian elephants are predominantly from areas where Chinese writing
would be unusual to find. http://www.upali.ch/asian_en.html
My main reason for believing the tool had another origin and purpose
is because I owned one that was identical to the tool pictured in 938,
except for the cross-hatching on the handle. It's pretty weird to see
a tool you own pop up in one of your "What Is it?" quizzes! I'd
picked it up when I bought an estate tool collection. The collection
has tools that I'm still trying to figure out, but all of them are of
American or English origin. The hook had a tag that said it was a
pickaroon, used for handling smaller logs - maybe as in firewood as
someone else suggested. Here's Lee Valley's version:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51108&cat=1,41131
I demonstrated some antique tools at a local country fair a couple of
years back, and the pickaroon was a favorite. It was _fun_ to give a
quick flick and have it stick into the end of a log. Made manhandling
a log a breeze. I really don't think you could design a better tool
for that application.
Anyway, thought you'd like another opinion. Take it for what it's
worth.
R
On Mar 25, 2:19 pm, "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 6:45 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >934) ... It would be interesting to see other views, to see whether there
> > > is some provision for adjusting the thickness per slice.
>
> > I don't own the microtome but might see it again next weekend, if so I'll
> > take a few more shots.
>
> > Six of the seven have been answered correctly this week, please see the
> > answer page for more details:
>
> >http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
>
> Hey Rob. I don't think that the tool pictured in 938 has anything to
> do with elephants, though similar looking tools are used in that
> application. Here's a link that shows various types of elephant
> hooks. http://www.upali.ch/hook_en.html The second tool picture,
> 938a, has Chinese or Japanese writing on the butt of the handle, and
> Asian elephants are predominantly from areas where Chinese writing
> would be unusual to find. http://www.upali.ch/asian_en.html
>
> My main reason for believing the tool had another origin and purpose
> is because I owned one that was identical to the tool pictured in 938,
> except for the cross-hatching on the handle. It's pretty weird to see
> a tool you own pop up in one of your "What Is it?" quizzes! I'd
> picked it up when I bought an estate tool collection. The collection
> has tools that I'm still trying to figure out, but all of them are of
> American or English origin. The hook had a tag that said it was a
> pickaroon, used for handling smaller logs - maybe as in firewood as
> someone else suggested. Here's Lee Valley's version:http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51108&cat=1,41131
>
> I demonstrated some antique tools at a local country fair a couple of
> years back, and the pickaroon was a favorite. It was _fun_ to give a
> quick flick and have it stick into the end of a log. Made manhandling
> a log a breeze. I really don't think you could design a better tool
> for that application.
>
> Anyway, thought you'd like another opinion. Take it for what it's
> worth.
>
> R
I've gotten a further translation. In Chinese, the inscription says
"Zi Cai Bu".
Chinese does not directly translate into English, but roughly; Zi is
related to words meaning 'capital' or 'information'; Cai is related to
'materials', and 'Bu' means 'department'. "Zi Cai Bu" probably means
the tool belonged to an official materials and maintenance department,
possibly at a large organization like a construction firm or
university.
This makes it highly unlikely to be an elephant stick. I'm even more
comfortable with the idea that it is a wood handling tool.
--riverman
On Mar 22, 7:58 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Leo Lichtman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > 937--Exactly like the dictionary stand on my living room. Mine has a
> > Webster's Unabridged on it'
>
> Any idea if the small platform above the legs has a purpose or is it just
> decorative?
It wouldn't make very much sense to put your glass of scotch _above_
the book in case it spills, right? ;)
R
On Mar 26, 7:28 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hey Rob. I don't think that the tool pictured in 938 has anything to
> > > do with elephants, though similar looking tools are used in that
> > > application. Here's a link that shows various types of elephant
> > > hooks. http://www.upali.ch/hook_en.htmlThe second tool picture,
> > > 938a, has Chinese or Japanese writing on the butt of the handle, and
> > > Asian elephants are predominantly from areas where Chinese writing
> > > would be unusual to find. http://www.upali.ch/asian_en.html
>
> > > My main reason for believing the tool had another origin and purpose
> > > is because I owned one that was identical to the tool pictured in 938,
> > > except for the cross-hatching on the handle. It's pretty weird to see
> > > a tool you own pop up in one of your "What Is it?" quizzes! I'd
> > > picked it up when I bought an estate tool collection. The collection
> > > has tools that I'm still trying to figure out, but all of them are of
> > > American or English origin. The hook had a tag that said it was a
> > > pickaroon, used for handling smaller logs - maybe as in firewood as
> > > someone else suggested. Here's Lee Valley's
>
> version:http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51108&cat=1,41131
>
>
>
> > > I demonstrated some antique tools at a local country fair a couple of
> > > years back, and the pickaroon was a favorite. It was _fun_ to give a
> > > quick flick and have it stick into the end of a log. Made manhandling
> > > a log a breeze. I really don't think you could design a better tool
> > > for that application.
>
> > > Anyway, thought you'd like another opinion. Take it for what it's
> > > worth.
>
> > > R
>
> Thanks, I've added your comments to the answer page.
>
> > I've gotten a further translation. In Chinese, the inscription says
> > "Zi Cai Bu".
>
> > Chinese does not directly translate into English, but roughly; Zi is
> > related to words meaning 'capital' or 'information'; Cai is related to
> > 'materials', and 'Bu' means 'department'. "Zi Cai Bu" probably means
> > the tool belonged to an official materials and maintenance department,
> > possibly at a large organization like a construction firm or
> > university.
>
> > This makes it highly unlikely to be an elephant stick. I'm even more
> > comfortable with the idea that it is a wood handling tool.
>
> > --riverman
>
> And thanks for the translation, it has also been posted on the answer page,
> along with an email from someone who used an identical tool to move large
> fish, I've also got a link to a video where similar hooks are used at a
> Japaneese fish market. If I had to put money on it, I'd bet on fish moving
> tool or log pickeroon over elephant trainer's hook.
>
> http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm going to retract my assumption that its a wood-moving tool, and
put all my chips on a fish picaroon. Check out this picture from a
frozen tuna processing plant in Japan:
http://jordan.husney.com/archives/photoblog/2005/12/000219.html
Although you cannot see the handle, the top of this tool is precisely
like the item you are showing us. The big bulb on the handle would be
a necessary thing to keep a grip on a slimy handle.
In this picture (strangely enough, from the same processing plant in
Japan) you can see a similar tool, but with the bulbous handle clearly
visible.
http://tinyurl.com/2xgq6z
I'm quite confident that its a fish handling tool from Japan.
--riverman
On Mar 26, 5:43 pm, "humunculus" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 7:28 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > Hey Rob. I don't think that the tool pictured in 938 has anything to
> > > > do with elephants, though similar looking tools are used in that
> > > > application. Here's a link that shows various types of elephant
> > > > hooks. http://www.upali.ch/hook_en.htmlThesecond tool picture,
> > > > 938a, has Chinese or Japanese writing on the butt of the handle, and
> > > > Asian elephants are predominantly from areas where Chinese writing
> > > > would be unusual to find. http://www.upali.ch/asian_en.html
>
> > > > My main reason for believing the tool had another origin and purpose
> > > > is because I owned one that was identical to the tool pictured in 938,
> > > > except for the cross-hatching on the handle. It's pretty weird to see
> > > > a tool you own pop up in one of your "What Is it?" quizzes! I'd
> > > > picked it up when I bought an estate tool collection. The collection
> > > > has tools that I'm still trying to figure out, but all of them are of
> > > > American or English origin. The hook had a tag that said it was a
> > > > pickaroon, used for handling smaller logs - maybe as in firewood as
> > > > someone else suggested. Here's Lee Valley's
>
> > version:http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51108&cat=1,41131
>
> > > > I demonstrated some antique tools at a local country fair a couple of
> > > > years back, and the pickaroon was a favorite. It was _fun_ to give a
> > > > quick flick and have it stick into the end of a log. Made manhandling
> > > > a log a breeze. I really don't think you could design a better tool
> > > > for that application.
>
> > > > Anyway, thought you'd like another opinion. Take it for what it's
> > > > worth.
>
> > > > R
>
> > Thanks, I've added your comments to the answer page.
>
> > > I've gotten a further translation. In Chinese, the inscription says
> > > "Zi Cai Bu".
>
> > > Chinese does not directly translate into English, but roughly; Zi is
> > > related to words meaning 'capital' or 'information'; Cai is related to
> > > 'materials', and 'Bu' means 'department'. "Zi Cai Bu" probably means
> > > the tool belonged to an official materials and maintenance department,
> > > possibly at a large organization like a construction firm or
> > > university.
>
> > > This makes it highly unlikely to be an elephant stick. I'm even more
> > > comfortable with the idea that it is a wood handling tool.
>
> > > --riverman
>
> > And thanks for the translation, it has also been posted on the answer page,
> > along with an email from someone who used an identical tool to move large
> > fish, I've also got a link to a video where similar hooks are used at a
> > Japaneese fish market. If I had to put money on it, I'd bet on fish moving
> > tool or log pickeroon over elephant trainer's hook.
>
> >http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
>
> > Rob- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I'm going to retract my assumption that its a wood-moving tool, and
> put all my chips on a fish picaroon. Check out this picture from a
> frozen tuna processing plant in Japan:http://jordan.husney.com/archives/photoblog/2005/12/000219.html
>
> Although you cannot see the handle, the top of this tool is precisely
> like the item you are showing us. The big bulb on the handle would be
> a necessary thing to keep a grip on a slimy handle.
>
> In this picture (strangely enough, from the same processing plant in
> Japan) you can see a similar tool, but with the bulbous handle clearly
> visible.http://tinyurl.com/2xgq6z
>
> I'm quite confident that its a fish handling tool from Japan.
>
> --riverman- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
http://perpublisher.com/Japan05/pages/Tokyo%20tuna%20%20auction.htm
And here, you can see the entire tool in the hands of the man on the
left.
--riverman
humunculus wrote:
>
> I'm going to retract my assumption that its a wood-moving tool, and
> put all my chips on a fish picaroon. Check out this picture from a
> frozen tuna processing plant in Japan:
> http://jordan.husney.com/archives/photoblog/2005/12/000219.html
>
> Although you cannot see the handle, the top of this tool is precisely
> like the item you are showing us. The big bulb on the handle would be
> a necessary thing to keep a grip on a slimy handle.
>
> In this picture (strangely enough, from the same processing plant in
> Japan) you can see a similar tool, but with the bulbous handle clearly
> visible.
> http://tinyurl.com/2xgq6z
>
> I'm quite confident that its a fish handling tool from Japan.
That's a bit fishy. ;) The tool you're showing has a much slimmer
handle than the one in Rob's quiz. I owned the exact tool from the
quiz and it was labeled as being a pickaroon by an extremely
knowledgeable, now deceased, collector. The knob at the end of any
tool would be useful any time the grip might slip involved - it
doesn't have to involve fish slime, sweat can be mighty slippery as
well.
The shape of the tool is extremely straightforward, and the hook and
grab move would be useful in a lot of different applications. Similar
tools, different applications. For example, I have an amazing
stainless steel elongated spatulate spreader that is useful for tile
work, spreading glue and cleaning out tiny crevices. My father, the
orthodontist who I got it from, used it for years in the dental
business! I was shocked that he didn't know what one of his own tools
was used for! ;)
Who determines what is the correct use of a tool? The manufacturer,
the purveyor or the end user?
R
On Mar 26, 11:52 am, Lew Hartswick <[email protected]> wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
>
> > Who determines what is the correct use of a tool? The manufacturer,
> > the purveyor or the end user?
>
> Welll! The manufacturer is the one who determines what the tool
> was " MADE " for but then anyone can "adapt" it for any other
> use they desire.
> That is way I look at it.
Perhaps. I think that Rob should have a Rube Goldberg category. It's
so limiting to have to guess the intended use. If he posted a picture
of a hammer, and someone replied, "I use that to drive screws.", they
should get partial credit because you _can_ use a hammer to drive some
screws. I'm big on partial credit.
Otherwise the quiz becomes so rigid, with _only_ one "right" answer.
It smacks of Fascism. Can't we all be right? Can't we all be
winners? Can't we all just get along...?
How about it, Rob? Are you willing to lighten up on the iron-fisted
control a bit? ;)
R
On Mar 27, 8:09 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Otherwise the quiz becomes so rigid, with _only_ one "right" answer.
> > It smacks of Fascism. Can't we all be right? Can't we all be
> > winners? Can't we all just get along...?
>
> > How about it, Rob? Are you willing to lighten up on the iron-fisted
> > control a bit? ;)
>
> > R
>
> I probably should ease up some, I wouldn't want to risk any
> newsgroup/interweb sanctions for facist behavior.;-) Maybe I could start
> using satisfactory/unsatisfactory when answering guesses. Actually, the
> next set doesn't have any ambiguous objects, so it will be at least another
> week before I change my ways.
>
> Rob
Well, ambiguous or not, I spend hours last night looking at
google.images under "Tokyo fish market", "Japan Fish Market", "Tuna
auction" and "Tsukiji", and saw dozens of pictures of people using
tools exactly like that one, especially with the characteristic shape
of the shaft and the large bulb. Additionally, the writing on the
bottom could be Japanese as easily as it could be Chinese; in fact the
characters at the top of the logo look like Katakana. I'll have a
Japanese friend look at it later tonight.
Although I am sure that 'a hook on a stick' is probably a pretty
common tool, considering that I haven't seen any images of wood
picaroons that have bulbs at the end of the handle, and the abundance
of similar tools from google.images, I think its even more assured
that this particular tool was designed to move frozen fish around,
probably at the Tsukiji Fish market in Tokyo.
Here are some of the more convincing photos clearly showing the tool
with the distinctive handle:
http://www2.bayshore.k12.ny.us/primary/japan/japanpics/DSC06204.JPG
http://www.mediaworkshop.org/hses/manekineko/IMAGES/japan3.jpg
And here are some videos that show the tool clearly also;
http://tinyurl.com/2hqrcg
http://tinyurl.com/35uf4b
This one shows the tool the most clearly.
http://tinyurl.com/2zdtbr
--riverman
On Mar 26, 9:19 pm, "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
> humunculus wrote:
>
> > I'm going to retract my assumption that its a wood-moving tool, and
> > put all my chips on a fish picaroon. Check out this picture from a
> > frozen tuna processing plant in Japan:
> >http://jordan.husney.com/archives/photoblog/2005/12/000219.html
>
> > Although you cannot see the handle, the top of this tool is precisely
> > like the item you are showing us. The big bulb on the handle would be
> > a necessary thing to keep a grip on a slimy handle.
>
> > In this picture (strangely enough, from the same processing plant in
> > Japan) you can see a similar tool, but with the bulbous handle clearly
> > visible.
> >http://tinyurl.com/2xgq6z
>
> > I'm quite confident that its a fish handling tool from Japan.
>
> That's a bit fishy. ;) The tool you're showing has a much slimmer
> handle than the one in Rob's quiz.
True. I'm looking at the tool he tagged into the answer page. I think
the tool in the quiz is something else....for starters, the point on
the sharp end is quite a bit different from the fish snagger thingy.
--riverman
"Leo Lichtman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 937--Exactly like the dictionary stand on my living room. Mine has a
> Webster's Unabridged on it'
Any idea if the small platform above the legs has a purpose or is it just
decorative?
Rob
"Christian Stüben" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> another silly guess...
>
> 939 some lens for cinema, slide projector, some old magic lantern? at the
> rear some device to make light with big holes for getting rid of the heat,
> then a condensing lens, a hole to insert some transparency objects, and a
> adjustable lens to project to your wall.
>
> greetings
>
Yes, projector is correct, and it's a little different from most in that it
uses carbon arc light.
Rob
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this
> week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
934 A microtome
938 a picaroon
Steve R.
"Leo Lichtman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "R.H." wrote: Any idea if the small platform above the legs has a
purpose
> or is it just decorative?
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> I think it's to hold other books--at least that's the way mine is used.
>
>
You're probably right, I thought that the vertical pieces at the corners
would be longer if it was made to hold books, but I guess that they're tall
enough.
Rob
>934) ... It would be interesting to see other views, to see whether there
> is some provision for adjusting the thickness per slice.
I don't own the microtome but might see it again next weekend, if so I'll
take a few more shots.
Six of the seven have been answered correctly this week, please see the
answer page for more details:
http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
Rob
Rich Grise wrote:
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:25:39 -0500, R.H. wrote:
>
> > One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> > couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
>
> Sorry for going all retro, but on #931 from last week or so (the 3-phase
> wire hanger), what's with the swirly Art Deco styling? Is it just that
> this was designed in the days when Deco was all the thing?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
The one longer arm with the smaller notch for a wire is for the
messenger cable. That is a steel cable much stronger than the current
carrying cables. The messenger cable allows the wires to be pulled
tighter and higher than without it or used for longer spans. On three
phase applications they would be used for low voltage only.
John
> > Hey Rob. I don't think that the tool pictured in 938 has anything to
> > do with elephants, though similar looking tools are used in that
> > application. Here's a link that shows various types of elephant
> > hooks. http://www.upali.ch/hook_en.html The second tool picture,
> > 938a, has Chinese or Japanese writing on the butt of the handle, and
> > Asian elephants are predominantly from areas where Chinese writing
> > would be unusual to find. http://www.upali.ch/asian_en.html
> >
> > My main reason for believing the tool had another origin and purpose
> > is because I owned one that was identical to the tool pictured in 938,
> > except for the cross-hatching on the handle. It's pretty weird to see
> > a tool you own pop up in one of your "What Is it?" quizzes! I'd
> > picked it up when I bought an estate tool collection. The collection
> > has tools that I'm still trying to figure out, but all of them are of
> > American or English origin. The hook had a tag that said it was a
> > pickaroon, used for handling smaller logs - maybe as in firewood as
> > someone else suggested. Here's Lee Valley's
version:http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51108&cat=1,41131
> >
> > I demonstrated some antique tools at a local country fair a couple of
> > years back, and the pickaroon was a favorite. It was _fun_ to give a
> > quick flick and have it stick into the end of a log. Made manhandling
> > a log a breeze. I really don't think you could design a better tool
> > for that application.
> >
> > Anyway, thought you'd like another opinion. Take it for what it's
> > worth.
> >
> > R
Thanks, I've added your comments to the answer page.
> I've gotten a further translation. In Chinese, the inscription says
> "Zi Cai Bu".
>
> Chinese does not directly translate into English, but roughly; Zi is
> related to words meaning 'capital' or 'information'; Cai is related to
> 'materials', and 'Bu' means 'department'. "Zi Cai Bu" probably means
> the tool belonged to an official materials and maintenance department,
> possibly at a large organization like a construction firm or
> university.
>
> This makes it highly unlikely to be an elephant stick. I'm even more
> comfortable with the idea that it is a wood handling tool.
>
> --riverman
And thanks for the translation, it has also been posted on the answer page,
along with an email from someone who used an identical tool to move large
fish, I've also got a link to a video where similar hooks are used at a
Japaneese fish market. If I had to put money on it, I'd bet on fish moving
tool or log pickeroon over elephant trainer's hook.
http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
Rob
"humunculus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 24, 6:45 am, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >934) ... It would be interesting to see other views, to see whether
>> >there
>> > is some provision for adjusting the thickness per slice.
>>
>> I don't own the microtome but might see it again next weekend, if so I'll
>> take a few more shots.
>>
>> Six of the seven have been answered correctly this week, please see the
>> answer page for more details:
>>
>> http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>
> I'll get a better translation in a day from some multilingual friends,
> but the best I can translate the chinese characters on the bottom of
> 938a tells me it says something like "wooden tool department". The
> first character is a bit hard to tell, since the top of the character
> is mugged up; without a radical on top, it actually means 'shell',
> which doesn't make sense to me. The middle character is 'cai', which
> means wood, and the bottom one is 'bu' which means department.
>
> I don't know of many regions where they train elephants and use
> Chinese characters, so the fish picaroon seems more likely to me.
>
> --riverman
>
Picaroons/pickaroons are used in plywood mills when there is a build-up of
scrap veneer along the green chain. They just whack the thing in to some
veneer, and drag it of to the chipper to be made into presto logs, or hogg
fuel. Don't ask how I know!
Steve R.
> Otherwise the quiz becomes so rigid, with _only_ one "right" answer.
> It smacks of Fascism. Can't we all be right? Can't we all be
> winners? Can't we all just get along...?
>
> How about it, Rob? Are you willing to lighten up on the iron-fisted
> control a bit? ;)
>
> R
>
I probably should ease up some, I wouldn't want to risk any
newsgroup/interweb sanctions for facist behavior.;-) Maybe I could start
using satisfactory/unsatisfactory when answering guesses. Actually, the
next set doesn't have any ambiguous objects, so it will be at least another
week before I change my ways.
Rob
that its a fish handling tool from Japan.
> >
> > That's a bit fishy. ;) The tool you're showing has a much slimmer
> > handle than the one in Rob's quiz.
>
> True. I'm looking at the tool he tagged into the answer page. I think
> the tool in the quiz is something else....for starters, the point on
> the sharp end is quite a bit different from the fish snagger thingy.
>
> --riverman
I agree that the smaller tool is a fish mover, but it's hard to say for sure
about the other one.
Rob
Gunner wrote:
>
> I know PG&E is..Pacific Greed and Extortion....
>
> The bastards
> And fuck Grey Davis with a farriers rasp too!
Come on, Gunner! You need something with at least a 2 HP motor to do
the job right. BTW, don't forget to trim his hemorrhoids with your
plasma cutter.
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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:25:39 -0500, R.H. wrote:
>
> > One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> > couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
>
> Sorry for going all retro, but on #931 from last week or so (the 3-phase
> wire hanger), what's with the swirly Art Deco styling? Is it just that
> this was designed in the days when Deco was all the thing?
>
It's ceramic, i.e., brittle, so a sharp corner would be a likely place for
cracks to start.
Ned Simmons
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> Although I am sure that 'a hook on a stick' is probably a pretty
> common tool, considering that I haven't seen any images of wood
> picaroons that have bulbs at the end of the handle, and the abundance
> of similar tools from google.images, I think its even more assured
> that this particular tool was designed to move frozen fish around,
> probably at the Tsukiji Fish market in Tokyo.
Not as distinctive a bulb, but a bulb nonetheless, on handles from 15 inches to
6 feet long. Apparently there are enough other uses for pickaroons that Peavey
is still making them 30+ years after the last river drive.
http://www.peaveymfg.com/loggingtools.htm#pickeroons
Ned Simmons
933 Climber's Cam
934 Microtome
935 Caltrops
936 Quill Pen point maker?
.
938 Agricultural veggie harvesting tool?
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this
> week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
Christian Stüben wrote:
>
>> 934 no idea
>
> some kind of brakable or ascertainable cable drum?
> drum for measuring length with looong wire?
> some kind of speed meter for boats?
> used in big clocks for the weigths?
>
> no, stop, my guesses are getting too dumb
>
> greetings, chris
#934 You should know this one. It can be used for slicing bratwurst.
Other people use it for making thin sections of specimens for study
under a microscope. The specimen is mounted in paraffin and sliced up.
Regards,
937--Exactly like the dictionary stand on my living room. Mine has a
Webster's Unabridged on it'
938--A hook that would be held in one hand and swung to seat the hook into
something soft and heavy, like a bale of cotton, or a bag of grain. I do
not include hay, because I know that hay hooks are used in pairs, and have a
different handle. Not for ice--the hook would just chip the ice.
939--As others have said, a projector. One of the clues is the knurled
brass focusing knob. I think I have seen the slides for this. They are
glass, a couple of inches wide, and several inches long. Each one has a
series of round images, cartoon-like, and in color.
"R.H." wrote: You're probably right, I thought that the vertical pieces at
the corners would be longer if it was made to hold books, but I guess that
they're tall enough.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're probably picturing the books standing like they would on a library
shelf. I have mine resting with the bindings on top.
and again the most dumbest guesses from germany
933 a tool for climbing rocks. the four half wheels are to block
(verklemmen) themself in rock-split
934 no idea
935 used to flatten car tires / to stop cars ?
936 pre-historic pencil sharpener ?
937 stand for thick books, the two flat areas are to hold front and back
separately so that old and expensive books will not fold too much ?
938 for woodworking, to remove the bark (oops, right word? Baumrinde) from
logs
939 funny thing used in itchy and scratchy moovies. no idea what it is used
for, microscope? rocket or jet engine?
greetings, chris
"GeorgeD" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ZRsMh.15810$1a6.895@trnddc08...
> #934 You should know this one. It can be used for slicing bratwurst.
>
> Other people use it for making thin sections of specimens for study under
> a microscope. The specimen is mounted in paraffin and sliced up.
yes, i know what you mean ... but who wants to see a bratwurst under a
microscope? ;-)
after having read what it should be it is clear. in the middle an adjustable
hole to fill in the specimen (some bratwurst with or without mustard or
ketchup, choose yourself what you like more), and on top a handle with a
sharp cutter. a microtome, didn´t i say this? ahem, no, karl did.
greetings, chris
"Rich" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Also known as a Dictionary Stand.
that´s the problem for me. even when i have some idea what it is used for,
then the right english words are missing. and my dictionary (hey, i should
have known it!) doen´t give a translation for all i am searching.
but i hope i described it clear enough.
greetings
hi all,
"GeorgeD" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:jZwMh.7065$YD.5977@trnddc06...
> Ok, what is it in German? Der Wörterbuchstand? Die Wörterbuchstelle? Der
> Wörterbuchtisch? Apparently not.
google is my friend ... just found on ebay:
http://www.kleinurl.de/?zc4y97xz
funny! looks, ahem, very similar.
another item, picture shows some use i would not have expected:
http://www.kleinurl.de/?v3rmwilw
greetings from germany, chris
According to R.H. <[email protected]>:
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as usual.
933) This is the semi-duplicate. The end shown is designed to
expand in cracks in stone to provide a grip in mountain climbing
and caving type activities.
934) A microtome -- for slicing off very thin samples of organic
materials to make microscope slides. The original sample is
mounted in a cylinder of wax to fit the hole in the top. As the
lever is slid to the left, it shaves a very thin slice off the
sample and the surrounding wax ready for placing on the
microscope slide, adding perhaps some stains to make certain
things more visible, a mounting compound, and a cover glass.
As the lever is returned to its original position, the lower
lever keyed to a slot in the main lever will advance a feedscrew
to extend the sample just the right distance for another slice
to be made.
The one which I have is rather more complex, with a separately
mounted blade which looks like a refugee from a straight razor,
and has adjustments to control how far it is extended per slice.
It also has a tray to collect the sliced samples.
This one looks as though it may use a single-edged or
double-edged razor blade clamped below the main lever.
It would be interesting to see other views, to see whether there
is some provision for adjusting the thickness per slice.
935) These look like cheap to manufacture versions of caltrops.
Perhaps these are intended to be used against human opponents
walking barefoot or in sandals -- such as in Vietnam.
The originals were made to keep horse-borne warriors from
attacking.
936) Either a strange version of a pencil sharpener, or perhaps
for pointing wooden dowels.
937) A library stand for an unabridged dictionary. The sides
raise and fall allowing the pages on either side to have the
same level, keeping the dictionary from flapping shut if not
held.
938) Not really sure about this one. From the shape of the handle
and the point, I think that it may be for climbing up a sloped
icy surface -- using two of them -- one in each hand -- and
perhaps some specialized kind of footwear to help as well.
939) An early version of a slide projector (magic lantern), I think.
The slide carrier goes through the slot just before the taper
starts.
The black area contains the lamp. I'm not sure whether it is an
incandescent lamp, or a flame and mantle style. It almost looks
as though there is a projection for fitting a gas feed to on the
more distant end.
The brass section in the near end is the projection lens and a
brass knob for adjusting the focus.
I guess that it *could* be an illuminator for a microscope
sub-stage, with the slot accepting color filters instead of
slides.
Now to see what others have guessed or identified.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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"R.H." <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Yes, projector is correct, and it's a little different from most in that
> it
> uses carbon arc light.
For cinema units carbon arc lighting is usual. For slide projectors, or
magic lantern, hmmm, not.
greetings
According to Rich Grise <[email protected]>:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:25:39 -0500, R.H. wrote:
>
> > One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> > couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
> >
> > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> >
>
> Sorry for going all retro, but on #931 from last week or so (the 3-phase
> wire hanger), what's with the swirly Art Deco styling? Is it just that
> this was designed in the days when Deco was all the thing?
I think that the purpose was to give longer "creep paths" for
current to flow when it is wet -- e.g. from rain or ice. This allows it
to operate at a higher voltage than a straight '+' shape would allow.
Also less chance of someone interpreting it as an upside down
Cross, and calling the power company "Satanic". :-)
Enjoy,
DoN.
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John wrote:
> Rich Grise wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:25:39 -0500, R.H. wrote:
>>
>>> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo
>>> from a couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of
>>> seven this week:
>>>
>>> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>> Sorry for going all retro, but on #931 from last week or so (the
>> 3-phase wire hanger), what's with the swirly Art Deco styling? Is it
>> just that this was designed in the days when Deco was all the thing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>
> The one longer arm with the smaller notch for a wire is for the
> messenger cable. That is a steel cable much stronger than the
> current carrying cables. The messenger cable allows the wires to be
> pulled tighter and higher than without it or used for longer spans.
> On three phase applications they would be used for low voltage only.
Was out driving today and saw some in the real world, of a more modern,
presumably plastic, construction.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157600032880812/
Note that the new ones have ratcheting clips instead of having to be
tied on with wire.
Wouldn't be surprised if some of the ceramic ones were still up around
here. If I see one and can get a picture I'll put it up on the same
site.
>
>
> John
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R.H. wrote:
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
>
>
939 is a slide projector/magic lantern. Since the fitting on the back
looks like a pipe fitting, the light source is probably a gas/acetylene
burner with a mantel inside the perforated case.
Northe
Christian Stüben wrote:
>
> "Rich" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[email protected]...
>> Also known as a Dictionary Stand.
>
> that´s the problem for me. even when i have some idea what it is used
> for, then the right english words are missing. and my dictionary (hey, i
> should have known it!) doen´t give a translation for all i am searching.
>
> but i hope i described it clear enough.
>
> greetings
>
Ok, what is it in German? Der Wörterbuchstand? Die Wörterbuchstelle?
Der Wörterbuchtisch? Apparently not.
Regards,
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (DoN. Nichols) wrote:
> According to Rich Grise <[email protected]>:
> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:25:39 -0500, R.H. wrote:
> >
> > > One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> > > couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this
> > > week:
> > >
> > > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> > Sorry for going all retro, but on #931 from last week or so (the 3-phase
> > wire hanger), what's with the swirly Art Deco styling? Is it just that
> > this was designed in the days when Deco was all the thing?
>
> I think that the purpose was to give longer "creep paths" for
> current to flow when it is wet -- e.g. from rain or ice. This allows it
> to operate at a higher voltage than a straight '+' shape would allow.
>
> Also less chance of someone interpreting it as an upside down
> Cross, and calling the power company "Satanic". :-)
>
You mean it isn't Satanic!?!
In article <[email protected]>,
Gunner <[email protected]> wrote:
> And fuck Grey Davis with a farriers rasp too!
That hurts just thinking about it! :)
"R.H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this
> week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
>
938. I have seen tools similar to this used to move around big blocks of
ice at a fish processing facility. I don't know if that was the intended or
original use of the tool.
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:25:39 -0500, R.H. wrote:
> One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
> couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this week:
>
> http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>
Sorry for going all retro, but on #931 from last week or so (the 3-phase
wire hanger), what's with the swirly Art Deco styling? Is it just that
this was designed in the days when Deco was all the thing?
Thanks,
Rich
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:37:16 +0100, Christian Stüben wrote:
> hi all,
>
> "GeorgeD" <[email protected]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:jZwMh.7065$YD.5977@trnddc06...
>> Ok, what is it in German? Der Wörterbuchstand? Die Wörterbuchstelle? Der
>> Wörterbuchtisch? Apparently not.
>
> google is my friend ... just found on ebay:
> http://www.kleinurl.de/?zc4y97xz
> funny! looks, ahem, very similar.
>
> another item, picture shows some use i would not have expected:
> http://www.kleinurl.de/?v3rmwilw
>
Kuntslexiconstasse? (probably not, I just made that up)
Thanks,
Rich
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 23:19:47 -0700, RicodJour wrote:
> On Mar 23, 6:45 pm, "R.H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >934) ... It would be interesting to see other views, to see whether there
>> > is some provision for adjusting the thickness per slice.
>>
>> I don't own the microtome but might see it again next weekend, if so I'll
>> take a few more shots.
>>
>> Six of the seven have been answered correctly this week, please see the
>> answer page for more details:
>>
>> http://pzphotosan161z.blogspot.com/
>
> Hey Rob. I don't think that the tool pictured in 938 has anything to
> do with elephants, though similar looking tools are used in that
> application. Here's a link that shows various types of elephant
> hooks. http://www.upali.ch/hook_en.html The second tool picture,
> 938a, has Chinese or Japanese writing on the butt of the handle, and
> Asian elephants are predominantly from areas where Chinese writing
> would be unusual to find. http://www.upali.ch/asian_en.html
>
> My main reason for believing the tool had another origin and purpose
> is because I owned one that was identical to the tool pictured in 938,
> except for the cross-hatching on the handle. It's pretty weird to see
> a tool you own pop up in one of your "What Is it?" quizzes! I'd
> picked it up when I bought an estate tool collection. The collection
> has tools that I'm still trying to figure out, but all of them are of
> American or English origin. The hook had a tag that said it was a
> pickaroon, used for handling smaller logs - maybe as in firewood as
> someone else suggested. Here's Lee Valley's version:
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=51108&cat=1,41131
>
> I demonstrated some antique tools at a local country fair a couple of
> years back, and the pickaroon was a favorite. It was _fun_ to give a
> quick flick and have it stick into the end of a log. Made manhandling
> a log a breeze. I really don't think you could design a better tool
> for that application.
>
> Anyway, thought you'd like another opinion. Take it for what it's
> worth.
Ewww!
Anyone who would use something like that on an elephant is a Very Bad
Person, and should have it used on him.
Thanks,
Rich
GeorgeD wrote:
>
> #934 You should know this one. It can be used for slicing bratwurst.
>
> Other people use it for making thin sections of specimens for study
> under a microscope. The specimen is mounted in paraffin and sliced up.
>
> Regards,
This is also known as a microtome. Now there is a word I haven't heard
since High School biology. Who knows why it jumped into my 65 year-old
mind after all these years.
Rich
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:41:12 -0400, John Husvar <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (DoN. Nichols) wrote:
>
>> According to Rich Grise <[email protected]>:
>> > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:25:39 -0500, R.H. wrote:
>> >
>> > > One of the objects is very similar to a previously posted photo from a
>> > > couple years ago, so I added another picture for a total of seven this
>> > > week:
>> > >
>> > > http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/
>> > >
>> >
>> > Sorry for going all retro, but on #931 from last week or so (the 3-phase
>> > wire hanger), what's with the swirly Art Deco styling? Is it just that
>> > this was designed in the days when Deco was all the thing?
>>
>> I think that the purpose was to give longer "creep paths" for
>> current to flow when it is wet -- e.g. from rain or ice. This allows it
>> to operate at a higher voltage than a straight '+' shape would allow.
>>
>> Also less chance of someone interpreting it as an upside down
>> Cross, and calling the power company "Satanic". :-)
>>
>
>You mean it isn't Satanic!?!
I know PG&E is..Pacific Greed and Extortion....
The bastards
And fuck Grey Davis with a farriers rasp too!
Gunner
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