We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.
Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
enamel black finish.
Can anyone help with this endeavor?
Thanks
Ken
On Sep 6, 10:02 am, "Mike Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "avallk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
> > The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
> > doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
> > cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
> > about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
> > different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
> > paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
> > primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
> > surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
> > results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.
>
> > Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
> > paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
> > enamel black finish.
>
> > Can anyone help with this endeavor?
>
> > Thanks
> > Ken
>
> Maybe the problem is that you trying to put a latex finish over an oil
> finish. That usually results in the latex finish peeling off. I think there
> is a particular type of primer that you use for this scenerio.
>
> Mike
I don't believe it was Latex as we had to use mineral spirits to clean
the gun and our hands.
On Sep 6, 10:12 am, "Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Mike Lewis wrote:
> > "avallk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
> >> The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
> >> doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
> >> cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
> >> about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
> >> different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
> >> paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
> >> primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
> >> surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
> >> results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.
>
> >> Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
> >> paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
> >> enamel black finish.
>
> >> Can anyone help with this endeavor?
>
> >> Thanks
> >> Ken
>
> > Maybe the problem is that you trying to put a latex finish over an oil
> > finish. That usually results in the latex finish peeling off. I think there
> > is a particular type of primer that you use for this scenerio.
>
> > Mike
>
> That could be the problem. Or you could sand a little more thoroughly,
> starting with a coarser grit, then going back with the 220 before priming.
Even the place that we got down to what we believed was bare wood
scraped off. :(
Mike Lewis wrote:
> "avallk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
>> The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
>> doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
>> cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
>> about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
>> different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
>> paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
>> primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
>> surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
>> results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.
>>
>> Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
>> paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
>> enamel black finish.
>>
>> Can anyone help with this endeavor?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ken
>>
>
> Maybe the problem is that you trying to put a latex finish over an oil
> finish. That usually results in the latex finish peeling off. I think there
> is a particular type of primer that you use for this scenerio.
>
> Mike
>
>
That could be the problem. Or you could sand a little more thoroughly,
starting with a coarser grit, then going back with the 220 before priming.
avallk wrote:
> On Sep 6, 10:12 am, "Charlie M. 1958" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Mike Lewis wrote:
>>> "avallk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
>>>> The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
>>>> doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
>>>> cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
>>>> about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
>>>> different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
>>>> paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
>>>> primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
>>>> surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
>>>> results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.
>>>> Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
>>>> paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
>>>> enamel black finish.
>>>> Can anyone help with this endeavor?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Ken
>>> Maybe the problem is that you trying to put a latex finish over an oil
>>> finish. That usually results in the latex finish peeling off. I think there
>>> is a particular type of primer that you use for this scenerio.
>>> Mike
>> That could be the problem. Or you could sand a little more thoroughly,
>> starting with a coarser grit, then going back with the 220 before priming.
>
> Even the place that we got down to what we believed was bare wood
> scraped off. :(
>
If you are really down to bare wood and the primer still scrapes off,
I'd say either you are scraping too hard, or there is something wrong
with the primer. I'd try a different type just to be on the safe side,
making sure it is recommended for use on bare wood.
"avallk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
> The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
> doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
> cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
> about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
> different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
> paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
> primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
> surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
> results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.
>
> Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
> paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
> enamel black finish.
>
> Can anyone help with this endeavor?
>
> Thanks
> Ken
>
Maybe the problem is that you trying to put a latex finish over an oil
finish. That usually results in the latex finish peeling off. I think there
is a particular type of primer that you use for this scenerio.
Mike