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"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.>

18/01/2008 10:43 PM

Neophite Case Construction Question

I am considering two different methods for attaching drawer runners to the
back of a nightstand. The back is 1/4" plywood that sits in a groove.

Option one is shown here:
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case1.jpg

Option two here:
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case2.jpg

Option one would be easier, but I would lose 3/4" (width of vertical board)
of drawer depth.
Option two's glue up would be a little more difficult, but I don't lose any
depth.

Any comments and/or suggestions?

Here is the main project page:
http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bedside_Project.htm


Thanks!

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LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

18/01/2008 9:26 PM


"Garage_Woodworks" wrote:

>I am considering two different methods for attaching drawer runners to the
>back of a nightstand. The back is 1/4" plywood that sits in a groove.

If you half lap option 1, you get more strength and don't lose 3/4".

You could also dado in a grooves to accept runner in rear.

All of that allows the rear panel to float.

HTH

Lew

DC

"Dan Coby"

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

18/01/2008 9:28 PM

"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>I am considering two different methods for attaching drawer runners to the back of a nightstand.
>The back is 1/4" plywood that sits in a groove.
>
> Option one is shown here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case1.jpg
>
> Option two here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case2.jpg
>
> Option one would be easier, but I would lose 3/4" (width of vertical board) of drawer depth.
> Option two's glue up would be a little more difficult, but I don't lose any depth.

A third option is a modification of option 1. Use half lap joints on the
vertical board in the center at the back.

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"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.>

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

19/01/2008 10:11 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. Several suggested that I should half lap the
back vertical board in option 1. The back top and bottom rail is only 3/4"
thick with a 1/4" panel in a groove (centered). This only leaves 1/4" of
space available for the half-lap. Unless I put the back panel in a rabbet
which would leave 1/2" ??

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Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

19/01/2008 9:37 AM


"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the suggestions. Several suggested that I should half lap the
> back vertical board in option 1. The back top and bottom rail is only
3/4"
> thick with a 1/4" panel in a groove (centered). This only leaves 1/4" of
> space available for the half-lap. Unless I put the back panel in a rabbet
> which would leave 1/2" ??

Classic, time honored method, and for good reason, is a "web frame" to
support the drawers. Much stronger case, much easier to fit inset doors,
much stronger everywhere it counts, and you can still use center slides if
you want.

http://www.e-woodshop.net/images/DrawerOvl.jpg

(however, it was designed for overlay door fronts instead of inset)

Strictly FWIW ...

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Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

18/01/2008 11:26 PM


"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am considering two different methods for attaching drawer runners to the
>back of a nightstand. The back is 1/4" plywood that sits in a groove.
>
> Option one is shown here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case1.jpg
>
> Option two here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case2.jpg
>
> Option one would be easier, but I would lose 3/4" (width of vertical
> board) of drawer depth.
> Option two's glue up would be a little more difficult, but I don't lose
> any depth.
>
> Any comments and/or suggestions?
>
> Here is the main project page:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bedside_Project.htm
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>

Many years ago I built with center runners with the assumption that they
better guided the drawers. I question if you are trying to make an
authentic as possible copy or have seen this technique and have chosen to
use it.

Don't take this personally but I don't like the center runners at all. I
prefer to simply build a web frame and let the drawer sides slide on the
frame and carry the weight. If needed for a chest similar to yours I use
spacers to keep the drawer square when sliding in and out and build to tight
tolerances to keep the drawer from tipping when pulled almost all the way
out.

The way I do it now is not necessarily easier but alignment is simpler and
the chest in general is much more stout.
If you would like I can e-mail you some .dwg or .pdf drawings of the method
I use. It can be adapted to most any stile chest.



BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

19/01/2008 9:42 PM

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:43:17 -0500, "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> wrote:

>Any comments and/or suggestions?

I think #2 is more elegant. I'd do it that way.

It'll be WAY easier with the PM2000!

tt

"todd"

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

18/01/2008 10:15 PM

I don't think I would go to that much trouble to get back 3/4".

todd

"Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am considering two different methods for attaching drawer runners to the
>back of a nightstand. The back is 1/4" plywood that sits in a groove.
>
> Option one is shown here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case1.jpg
>
> Option two here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case2.jpg
>
> Option one would be easier, but I would lose 3/4" (width of vertical
> board) of drawer depth.
> Option two's glue up would be a little more difficult, but I don't lose
> any depth.
>
> Any comments and/or suggestions?
>
> Here is the main project page:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/Bedside_Project.htm
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
>

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "Garage_Woodworks" <.@.> on 18/01/2008 10:43 PM

19/01/2008 11:15 AM

Garage_Woodworks wrote:
> I am considering two different methods for attaching drawer runners
> to the back of a nightstand. The back is 1/4" plywood that sits in
> a groove.
>
> Option one is shown here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case1.jpg
>
> Option two here:
> http://www.garagewoodworks.com/pictures/case2.jpg
>
> Option one would be easier, but I would lose 3/4" (width of
> vertical board) of drawer depth.
> Option two's glue up would be a little more difficult, but I don't
> lose any depth.
>
> Any comments and/or suggestions?

Half lap the #1 board and you lose no depth.

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