JJ

31/03/2008 11:40 PM

OT - FS, Book

Thought I'd give you guys first crack at this. I'd been searching
for a copy of the book "SINGLE SHOT ACTIONS Their Design And
Construction", by Frank & Mark deHaas, father and son. The book has
long been out of print. I finally communicated personally with Mark
deHaas, to see if I could somehow obtain a copy (Frank has passed). He
did not have any copies, and informed me that the family no longer owns
the copyright, the publisher has it now, but he said the publisher
refuses to re-publish. So I kept on searching on line. I found one gun
book site that had a copy listed for around $285. A bit pricey for me.
Later I did run across a copy and got that one. However, my interests
have shifted, and I no longer am interested in keeping this book.

So, I'll part with it for $110, which includes postage. The book
is in excellent condition, is autographed by Frank deHaas, no pages torn
or dogeared. Lots of pictures and drawingws. If you really have an
interest in single-shot rifle you won't need a description of the
contents. If you DO need a description of the content, I'm not going to
spend the time doing that, look it up on the internet. I'll ship
immediately (within a day or two) upon receipt of a cashier's check, or
money order. Personal checks will have to clear before shipment, say
about two weeks. First response to me, by e-mail, gets it - if that
falls thru, second response, and so on. If you're in the
Raleith-Smithfield area, or close, I may be talked into a swap, or
partial-swap, but don't count on it.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.


This topic has 6 replies

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 31/03/2008 11:40 PM

01/04/2008 12:11 PM

On Mar 31, 11:40 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Thought I'd give you guys first crack at this. I'd been searching
> for a copy of the book "SINGLE SHOT ACTIONS Their Design And
> Construction", by Frank & Mark deHaas, father and son. The book has
> long been out of print. I finally communicated personally with Mark
> deHaas, to see if I could somehow obtain a copy (Frank has passed). He
> did not have any copies, and informed me that the family no longer owns
> the copyright, the publisher has it now, but he said the publisher
> refuses to re-publish. So I kept on searching on line. I found one gun
> book site that had a copy listed for around $285. A bit pricey for me.
> Later I did run across a copy and got that one. However, my interests
> have shifted, and I no longer am interested in keeping this book.
>
> So, I'll part with it for $110, which includes postage. The book
> is in excellent condition, is autographed by Frank deHaas, no pages torn
> or dogeared. Lots of pictures and drawingws. If you really have an
> interest in single-shot rifle you won't need a description of the
> contents. If you DO need a description of the content, I'm not going to
> spend the time doing that, look it up on the internet. I'll ship
> immediately (within a day or two) upon receipt of a cashier's check, or
> money order. Personal checks will have to clear before shipment, say
> about two weeks. First response to me, by e-mail, gets it - if that
> falls thru, second response, and so on. If you're in the
> Raleith-Smithfield area, or close, I may be talked into a swap, or
> partial-swap, but don't count on it.
>
> JOAT
> 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker
>
> I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

JOAT, I have to wonder how the publisher got the copyright. Something
many one-time writers forget is that the copyright can be valuable,
and should, if possible be retained. I wonder why the publisher won't
reprint, too. He could easily send the art to China and sell the book
for half what the original sold for, in this day and age.

Can you post here or email me the publisher's name. I know, I know.
I'm being a pain in the ass, but I am curious to see just what the
outfit is like, if I can find it. charliediy @ gmail . com

JJ

in reply to Charlie Self on 01/04/2008 12:11 PM

01/04/2008 4:04 PM

Tue, Apr 1, 2008, 12:11pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (Charlie=A0Self)
doth queryeth:
JOAT, I have to wonder how the publisher got the copyright. Something
many one-time writers forget is that the copyright can be valuable, and
should, if possible be retained. I wonder why the publisher won't
reprint, too. He could easily send the art to China and sell the book
for half what the original sold for, in this day and age.
Can you post here or email me the publisher's name. I know, I know. I'm
being a pain in the ass, but I am curious to see just what the outfit is
like, if I can find it. charliediy @ gmail . com

Yup. Wondered myself. So I asked. Didn't get a definitive answer
Frank de Haas wasn't a first-time author, he worte maybe a dozen books
or more. I've got several.. In the front of the book it shows the
publisher listed for copyright along with Frank de Haas. Or, at least
who I believe is the publisher, Lloyd de Vore. Hmm, the copyright
symbol is in front of his hane, but not in front of Frank de Haas's
name, don't kow if that meansshared or not. I think he took over
ownership of the copyright when Frank de Haas died, I don't know if
there was any money at issue or not. Seems to me I might have contacted
the publishing company and asked if they were going to re-publish - if
so don't recall the reason, but didn't want to be bothered springs to
mind. If I recall right there were only about 1,000 copies printed in
the first place. Oh yeah, it's a hardback book. It's been quite awhile
since I was afer the info, and nothing to make it stick out, so won't
guarantee all of this, but think it's so.

Or, the publisher might have just been mad about something, and
when he got the copyright, decided he wouldn't republish, or give up the
copyright.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

Ft

Fred the Red Shirt

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 31/03/2008 11:40 PM

02/04/2008 4:44 PM

On Apr 1, 3:11 pm, Charlie Self <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 11:40 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
>
>
>
> > 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

Nearlyst ten out of ten UseNet spammers post off-topic for
sale articles.

If Clinton is half as nasty to 'terrorists' as she is to her
political rivals, they surely do NOT want her to be president.

Bin Laden bombed the Cole in 2000 because he preferred GWB
over Gore. Bin Laden released a tape criticizing in Oct/Nov 2004
because he preferred GWB over Kerry.

Bin Laden will act again shortly before the 2008 election if he
prefers
Clinton, and not if he prefers McCain.

>
> > I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

I don't have a problem with JOAT, except for his off-topic
articles. People who post off-topic articles with "OT" in
the subject line are the same people who park int he fire
lane with their four-ways flashing.

>
> JOAT, I have to wonder how the publisher got the copyright.

Here are four ways to get the copyrights to anything. Create
an original work in a form fixed in a tangible medium, have
an employee do the same in the course of his/her employment
for you, receive the copyrights as a gift, or buy them from the
previous owner. I can't think of any more offhand.

I would assume that in this case the publisher bought the
copyrights from the authors.

--

FF

Ld

LRod

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 31/03/2008 11:40 PM

01/04/2008 8:00 PM

On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:11:03 -0700 (PDT), Charlie Self
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> 10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Think JOAT's a Dick - Bumper Sticker

>JOAT, I have to wonder how the publisher got the copyright. Something
>many one-time writers forget is that the copyright can be valuable,
>and should, if possible be retained. I wonder why the publisher won't
>reprint, too. He could easily send the art to China and sell the book
>for half what the original sold for, in this day and age.
>
>I am curious to see just what the outfit is like, if I can find it.

Send him an email.


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http://www.woodbutcher.net
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care to correspond with you anyway.

JJ

in reply to LRod on 01/04/2008 8:00 PM

02/04/2008 5:01 PM

Tue, Apr 1, 2008, 8:00pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) doth
mumble:
Send him an email.

He could have, he has been on my list of peope welcome to do just
that, for a lonnng time - and well knows that, but this time he chose
not to. LRod, LRod, nope, not on the list.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

Ld

LRod

in reply to LRod on 01/04/2008 8:00 PM

02/04/2008 11:14 PM

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:01:22 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>Tue, Apr 1, 2008, 8:00pm (EDT+4) [email protected] (LRod) doth
>mumble:
>Send him an email.
>
> He could have, he has been on my list of peope welcome to do just
>that, for a lonnng time - and well knows that, but this time he chose
>not to. LRod, LRod, nope, not on the list.

Yawn. Doesn't matter. It'll never be tested.

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LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net
http://www.normstools.com

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

email addy de-spam-ified due to 1,000 spams per month.
If you can't figure out how to use it, I probably wouldn't
care to correspond with you anyway.


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