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"trs80"

01/07/2007 3:15 PM

best finish for eating table top?

I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like that.?

thank you


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Robatoy

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

01/07/2007 8:35 PM

On Jul 1, 7:10 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:15:17 -0700, "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
> >What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like that.?
>
> For a heavily used kitchen table, I'd probably use a good varnish,
> like Behlen's Rock Hard or Waterlox, or a good quality urethane, like
> Waterlox Urethane varnish. Let it thoroughly dry, then wet sand the
> dust nibs out with 320 or 400 grit, and adjust the sheen by rubbing
> with pumice.

I find that steel wool and TreWax works nicely too.

Aa

Andy

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 1:36 PM

> I, 20 years ago. made our kitchen table out of ash and used Danish oil.
> Since then I have refinished the table once. I am looking forward to
> refinish it again before Christmas.
> I do not know how many year polyurethane can stand the every day abuse of a
> large family?

Are you implying that danish oil is more durable or harder or tougher
than polyurethane? I was under the impression that danish oil is a
nice rubbing finish for pieces that won't get much wear, but that it
doesn't build much and is a very soft finish. Do you have experience
that suggests otherwise, or did I misinterpret your post?
Andy

sj

splinter

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 4:06 PM

best finish for eating table top?

after eating a table top i would recomend finishing with a slice of
apple pie with a scoop of vanilla

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 9:25 AM

On Jul 2, 12:20 pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "splinter" wrote
>
> > best finish for eating table top?
>
> > after eating a table top i would recomend finishing with a slice of
> > apple pie with a scoop of vanilla
>
> And maybe some appropriate digestive enzymes.

Perhaps finish off with a bar-stool pie?

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 4:28 PM

On Jul 2, 6:32 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Sun, Jul 1, 2007, 3:15pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (trs80) doth burble:
> I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table. What is the appropriate
> finish to put on an eating surface like that.?
>
> Plates.

Ahhh, but thou overlooketh a tablecloth with a summer-like motif.
A centre piece of freshly cut flowers will adorn a normally blas=E9
eating surface.
Don't forget to polish away those waterspots from your crystal!

Fluff all the seating pillows for your guests as well.

JJ

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 6:32 PM

Sun, Jul 1, 2007, 3:15pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (trs80) doth burble:
I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table. What is the appropriate
finish to put on an eating surface like that.?

Plates.



JOAT
If a man does his best, what else is there?
- General George S. Patton

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 12:20 PM


"splinter" wrote

> best finish for eating table top?
>
> after eating a table top i would recomend finishing with a slice of
> apple pie with a scoop of vanilla
>
And maybe some appropriate digestive enzymes.



dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 11:26 PM

trs80 wrote:
> great tips thank. The a large section of finish and stain was
> removed when my son spilled paint thinner on it. So Id guess it
> was a lacquer finish.

No, paint thinner won't touch lacquer. In fact, it shouldn't have
bothered *any* finish. Possibly the top was unfinished but stained
with an oil base stain?
_______________

> Sounds like poly is the way to go. Does it
> matter if its water based? thanks again

It doesn't really matter except thet clear water based finishes don't
increase the color and grain contrast of the wood like oil based ones.
Oil base adds a slight amber color too.

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mac davis

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

03/07/2007 8:28 AM

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:15:17 -0700, "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
>What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like that.?
>
>thank you
>
</lurk>

Glad you cleared that up... from the post's subject, I was going to recommend a
good bbq sauce..

<lurk>


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

S@

"Stoutman" <.@.>

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

01/07/2007 6:21 PM


"trs80" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
> What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like that.?
>
> thank you


As long as you don't actually eat the table you can use anything. I prefer
polyurethane.

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m

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

01/07/2007 8:23 PM


"Stoutman" <.@.> wrote in message
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>
> "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
>> What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like that.?
>>
>> thank you
>
>
> As long as you don't actually eat the table you can use anything. I
> prefer polyurethane.
>
> --
> Stoutman
> www.garagewoodworks.com
>
Polyurethane is a good choice and looks nice.
However, I prefer the look of Danish oil.
I, 20 years ago. made our kitchen table out of ash and used Danish oil.
Since then I have refinished the table once. I am looking forward to
refinish it again before Christmas.
I do not know how many year polyurethane can stand the every day abuse of a
large family?

m

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 7:11 AM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Jul 1, 7:10 pm, B A R R Y <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:15:17 -0700, "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
>> >What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like that.?
>>
>> For a heavily used kitchen table, I'd probably use a good varnish,
>> like Behlen's Rock Hard or Waterlox, or a good quality urethane, like
>> Waterlox Urethane varnish. Let it thoroughly dry, then wet sand the
>> dust nibs out with 320 or 400 grit, and adjust the sheen by rubbing
>> with pumice.
>
> I find that steel wool and TreWax works nicely too.

TreWax is well liked as long as you remember not to rub your eyes after
using fine steel wool.

>

m

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 11:39 AM


"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> I, 20 years ago. made our kitchen table out of ash and used Danish oil.
>> Since then I have refinished the table once. I am looking forward to
>> refinish it again before Christmas.
>> I do not know how many year polyurethane can stand the every day abuse of
>> a
>> large family?
>
> Are you implying that danish oil is more durable or harder or tougher
> than polyurethane? I was under the impression that danish oil is a
> nice rubbing finish for pieces that won't get much wear, but that it
> doesn't build much and is a very soft finish. Do you have experience
> that suggests otherwise, or did I misinterpret your post?
> Andy
>

Danish oil is not a rubbing finish it a resin formula that penetrates
deeply. Its easily applied using a brush then you wipe it out using a rag.
Depending on the manufacturer Danish oil is Tung oil and urethane resin
formula.
Polyurethane is an extremely durable finish and well like for wooden floors.
Danish oil can be refinished using a steel wool to remove scratches and the
likes.
While polyurethane is hard and requires more labour to remove scratches and
refinish, Danish oil is easier to apply and refinishing take less time. I
like the looks of Danish and Tung oil other prefer the looks of varnish.
Its a matter of preferences. If I am using solid wood to make furniture It
is because I enjoy looking a the natural grains. When using Eastern while
pine I use polyurethane

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

03/07/2007 11:45 AM


"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> trs80 wrote:
>> great tips thank. The a large section of finish and stain was
>> removed when my son spilled paint thinner on it. So Id guess it
>> was a lacquer finish.
>
> No, paint thinner won't touch lacquer. In fact, it shouldn't have
> bothered *any* finish. Possibly the top was unfinished but stained
> with an oil base stain?
>
Absolutey true. However the OP's sone may have actually some other solvent.
Fingernail polish remover will definitely eat right through lacquer.

_______________
>
>> Sounds like poly is the way to go. Does it
>> matter if its water based? thanks again
>
> It doesn't really matter except thet clear water based finishes don't
> increase the color and grain contrast of the wood like oil based ones.
> Oil base adds a slight amber color too.

IME, Oil-based offers a tougher finish. YMMV.



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"trs80"

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 9:09 AM

great tips thank. The a large section of finish and stain was removed when
my son spilled paint thinner on it. So Id guess it was a lacquer finish.
Sounds like poly is the way to go. Does it matter if its water based?
thanks again
"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> trs80 wrote:
>> I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
>> What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like
>> that.?
>
> Easiest to apply/refinish and least water resistent to hardest to
> apply/most water resistent...
>
> 1. Oil (any oil...boiled linseed, tung, etc.)
>
> 2. Lacquer (what you'd most likely get on a new, bought table)
>
> 3. Alkyd varnish or paint
>
> 4. Urethane varnish or paint
>
>
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
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>
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>

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B A R R Y

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

01/07/2007 11:10 PM

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:15:17 -0700, "trs80" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
>What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like that.?

For a heavily used kitchen table, I'd probably use a good varnish,
like Behlen's Rock Hard or Waterlox, or a good quality urethane, like
Waterlox Urethane varnish. Let it thoroughly dry, then wet sand the
dust nibs out with 320 or 400 grit, and adjust the sheen by rubbing
with pumice. If you want a high gloss, continue rubbing with
rottenstone.

If you're going to eat it, I prefer a good pepper sauce.



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"dadiOH"

in reply to "trs80" on 01/07/2007 3:15 PM

02/07/2007 3:12 PM

trs80 wrote:
> I need to refinish our worn oak kitchen table.
> What is the appropriate finish to put on an eating surface like
> that.?

Easiest to apply/refinish and least water resistent to hardest to
apply/most water resistent...

1. Oil (any oil...boiled linseed, tung, etc.)

2. Lacquer (what you'd most likely get on a new, bought table)

3. Alkyd varnish or paint

4. Urethane varnish or paint



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