RH

"Rob H."

08/12/2011 4:03 AM

What is it? Set 418

Another set has been posted to the web site:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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lektric dan

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 3:45 AM

This may be a bird call, or similar toy. The wooden rod is dusted
with powdered rosin, and when inserted in the cylinder and twisted
will make chirping sounds.


On Dec 8, 3:26=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Here are two items that were sent in a few weeks ago, anyone know what
> they're for?
>
> 2.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/12-8a.jpg

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lektric dan

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 3:49 AM

2420 is a "double bubble" whisky shot glass. Warm water is put in the
lower portion, and the whisky goes in the top.

2422 are all sanitary tubing fittings. Probably at a dairy.

On Dec 8, 3:03=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

Nn

Northe

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:58 AM

2419: check embosser -- produces an embossed pattern over the dollar
amount to prevent alteration.
2423: meat tenderizer

Northe

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:24 AM

1: Cleavus hook for docked ships?
2: ??

On 12/08/2011 04:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Here are two items that were sent in a few weeks ago, anyone know what
> they're for?
>
> 1.
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/12-8.jpg
>
>
> 2.
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/12-8a.jpg

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 7:33 AM

On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 04:03:01 -0500, Rob H. wrote:

> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2420. Midget coffee percolator
2421. Olde-sytle nipple clampe for kinky Victorians
2423. Precursor to brass knuckles
2424. Book on big game hunting

--
Ted S.
fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

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lektric dan

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 12:57 PM

Onky if your hyacinth drinks Jack Daniel's.

On Dec 8, 2:29=A0pm, Baron <[email protected]> wrote:
> lektric dan Inscribed thus:
>
> > 2420 is a "double bubble" whisky shot glass. =A0Warm water is put in th=
e
> > lower portion, and the whisky goes in the top.
>
> Not a hyacinth vase then ?
>

Gt

"Grumpy"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 8:59 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

Item 2422 are all Tri-clover type stainless steel pipe fittings as used in
the beer,food, cosmetics and pharmaceutical industries.

MK

Michael Kenefick

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:21 AM

2419: notary embosser?
2420: Eye Washer
2421: ??
2422: Wire making jigs?
2423: Hay mover (Or a device not yet used in a movie or CSI show to kill
some one)?
2424: vintage ballot box?

On 12/08/2011 04:03 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 4:26 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Here are two items that were sent in a few weeks ago, anyone know what
they're for?

1.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/12-8.jpg


2.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v80/harnett65/Album%2014/12-8a.jpg

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Alexander Thesoso

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:17 AM

2419 This looks like a Check Protector embosser.
Although the pattern looks a bit coarse, this looks like it was used to
emboss a pattern over the amount of a check to prevent alteration.

http://www.officemuseum.com/check_protectors.htm
About halfway down the page.


On 12/8/2011 4:03 AM, Rob H. wrote:
> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

BB

Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 10:56 AM

On 12/8/2011 4:26 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

#2914 A staple-less (office) stapler?

Bb

Baron

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 8:29 PM

lektric dan Inscribed thus:

> 2420 is a "double bubble" whisky shot glass. Warm water is put in the
> lower portion, and the whisky goes in the top.

Not a hyacinth vase then ?

> On Dec 8, 3:03 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob

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Best Regards:
Baron.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:33 PM


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Item 2422 are all Tri-clover type stainless steel pipe fittings as used in
> the beer,food, cosmetics and pharmaceutical industries.


Good answer, the photo was taken at a winery.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:35 PM


> 2424: vintage ballot box?
>

Correct, it's an old mule mounted ballot box.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:37 PM


>2420 is a "double bubble" whisky shot glass. Warm water is put in the
>lower portion, and the whisky goes in the top.


Someone buy this man a drink! It is indeed a glass for drinking whiskey
with a chaser.


RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 6:45 PM


> 2423: meat tenderizer

I think that this is probably correct.

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 4:03 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> > 2423: meat tenderizer
>
> I think that this is probably correct.
>
McDonalds or White Castle hamburger press/tenderizer??

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

08/12/2011 4:29 PM

Baron wrote:
> lektric dan Inscribed thus:
>
>> 2420 is a "double bubble" whisky shot glass. Warm water is put in the
>> lower portion, and the whisky goes in the top.
>
> Not a hyacinth vase then ?
>
If it was two pieces, I'd have said, "early coffee percolator without the
internal tube thingie."

Cheers!
Rich

Rr

"Robert"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

09/12/2011 11:14 AM


"DoN. Nichols" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2011-12-08, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>

> 2424) Guesses below based on the proximity to the _Big Game Hunting_
> book.
>
> Perhaps for accessories for big game rifles -- ammo or similar
> things.
>
> Or perhaps (though not very convenient) a carrier for a serious
> telephoto lens -- for big game hunting without killing.
>


A bear proof storage container for hunters.


Robert


.

Bb

Baron

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

09/12/2011 7:33 PM

Rob H. Inscribed thus:

>
>>2420 is a "double bubble" whisky shot glass. Warm water is put in the
>>lower portion, and the whisky goes in the top.
>
>
> Someone buy this man a drink! It is indeed a glass for drinking
> whiskey with a chaser.

Obviously I've never seen a whisky glass like that ! Would someone care
to elaborate.

PS. I'm not a spirits drinker either... Sorry.

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.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

09/12/2011 5:27 PM


"Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 2419 This looks like a Check Protector embosser.
> Although the pattern looks a bit coarse, this looks like it was used to
> emboss a pattern over the amount of a check to prevent alteration.
>
> http://www.officemuseum.com/check_protectors.htm
> About halfway down the page.


This answer is correct. As I also mention on the site, I'll be posting on
Wednesday next week. Five of the six in this set were answered correctly,
the band saw vise was a difficult one:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/12/set-418.html#answers

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

09/12/2011 6:44 PM

>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/12/set-418.html#answers
>
> The bandsaw brazing vice (#2421) is interesting. Is there a photo that
> shows the lettering clearly? And one showing the other side? I think I
> see mention of a patent.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Gwinn

I don't have a photo of the other side, someone sent me a hard copy print
through the mail which I scanned to get a digital image, text on it reads E
C Atkins & Co Indianapolis, pat. Apr 20, 1889. That date is a Saturday,
since most patents were issued on a Tuesday, the date might be incorrect. I
did some patent searching but couldn't find it.

Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

10/12/2011 6:39 AM

>
> I really think that it is for keeping the amount and signature
> from being modified, not for keeping the check from being submitted a
> second time.


I had read that somewhere but just now I couldn't find it again, so I took
that part out.


>
>> Five of the six in this set were answered
>> correctly,
>> the band saw vise was a difficult one:
>
> In part, because I was focusing on the arch, not the gap and
> clamps along the bottom where the welding or brazing would be done. I
> don't see the tongs which you mention in the posted answer.


I changed my wording on this answer to make it more clear regarding the
tongs. Still no luck finding a patent for this vise, I was hoping to use
some patent drawings in the answer.

Thanks,
Rob


>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/12/set-418.html#answers

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

10/12/2011 10:05 AM


> Obviously I've never seen a whisky glass like that ! Would someone care
> to elaborate.


The bottom is filled with water, a soft drink, or beer, then the top is
filled with whiskey or other liquor. When someone drinks it, the chaser
mixes with the liquor so it goes down easier and the last taste is from the
chaser, this supposedly makes drinking shots more pleasant. I've never
tried it, and don't necessarily recommend it one way or the other, just
thought the glass was interesting.

Rob

Bb

Baron

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

10/12/2011 3:39 PM

Hi Rob,
Rob H. Inscribed thus:

>
>> Obviously I've never seen a whisky glass like that ! Would someone
>> care to elaborate.
>
>
> The bottom is filled with water, a soft drink, or beer, then the top
> is filled with whiskey or other liquor. When someone drinks it, the
> chaser mixes with the liquor so it goes down easier and the last taste
> is from the chaser, this supposedly makes drinking shots more
> pleasant. I've never tried it, and don't necessarily recommend it one
> way or the other, just thought the glass was interesting.
>
> Rob

Ah, I see !
Thank you for the explanation.

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"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

10/12/2011 4:06 PM

>> I don't have a photo of the other side, someone sent me a hard copy print
>> through the mail which I scanned to get a digital image, text on it reads
>> E
>> C Atkins & Co Indianapolis, pat. Apr 20, 1889. That date is a Saturday,
>> since most patents were issued on a Tuesday, the date might be incorrect.
>> I
>> did some patent searching but couldn't find it.
>
> I didn't succeed either, but I did find a few things.
>
> 1. EC Atkins is Elias C Atkins, and he founded a saw manufacturing
> company in Indianapolis, with lots of patents. For instance, 342,416
> and 413,012.
>
> 2. His employee George S Black invented a Brazing Machine (pat 353,245,
> issued Nov. 23, 1886) for the making of band saw blades.
>
> Joe Gwinn


After seeing your patent for a brazing machine I did a search on that term
and found one that looks just like the photo on my site, maybe the inventor
sold this patent to Atkins:

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT426358

The date on the vise was Apr. 20, 1889 but the patent says Apr. 22, 1890. I
would think the ends of the bandsaw would overlap when brazed, not sure why
they're shown with a gap between them on the patent. Looks like DoN made a
good guess on the arch being used to hold the bandsaw while filing.

Thanks,
Rob

JG

Joseph Gwinn

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

10/12/2011 1:40 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:

> >>
> >> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/12/set-418.html#answers
> >
> > The bandsaw brazing vice (#2421) is interesting. Is there a photo that
> > shows the lettering clearly? And one showing the other side? I think I
> > see mention of a patent.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Joe Gwinn
>
> I don't have a photo of the other side, someone sent me a hard copy print
> through the mail which I scanned to get a digital image, text on it reads E
> C Atkins & Co Indianapolis, pat. Apr 20, 1889. That date is a Saturday,
> since most patents were issued on a Tuesday, the date might be incorrect. I
> did some patent searching but couldn't find it.

I didn't succeed either, but I did find a few things.

1. EC Atkins is Elias C Atkins, and he founded a saw manufacturing
company in Indianapolis, with lots of patents. For instance, 342,416
and 413,012.

2. His employee George S Black invented a Brazing Machine (pat 353,245,
issued Nov. 23, 1886) for the making of band saw blades.

Joe Gwinn

JG

Joseph Gwinn

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

09/12/2011 6:26 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > 2419 This looks like a Check Protector embosser.
> > Although the pattern looks a bit coarse, this looks like it was used to
> > emboss a pattern over the amount of a check to prevent alteration.
> >
> > http://www.officemuseum.com/check_protectors.htm
> > About halfway down the page.
>
>
> This answer is correct. As I also mention on the site, I'll be posting on
> Wednesday next week. Five of the six in this set were answered correctly,
> the band saw vise was a difficult one:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/12/set-418.html#answers

The bandsaw brazing vice (#2421) is interesting. Is there a photo that
shows the lettering clearly? And one showing the other side? I think I
see mention of a patent.

Thanks,

Joe Gwinn

JG

Joseph Gwinn

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

10/12/2011 5:42 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> I don't have a photo of the other side, someone sent me a hard copy print
> >> through the mail which I scanned to get a digital image, text on it reads
> >> E C Atkins & Co Indianapolis, pat. Apr 20, 1889. That date is a Saturday,
> >> since most patents were issued on a Tuesday, the date might be incorrect.
> >> I did some patent searching but couldn't find it.
> >
> > I didn't succeed either, but I did find a few things.
> >
> > 1. EC Atkins is Elias C Atkins, and he founded a saw manufacturing
> > company in Indianapolis, with lots of patents. For instance, 342,416
> > and 413,012.
> >
> > 2. His employee George S Black invented a Brazing Machine (pat 353,245,
> > issued Nov. 23, 1886) for the making of band saw blades.
> >
> > Joe Gwinn
>
>
> After seeing your patent for a brazing machine I did a search on that term
> and found one that looks just like the photo on my site, maybe the inventor
> sold this patent to Atkins:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT426358

Man, that sure looks like it.


> The date on the vise was Apr. 20, 1889 but the patent says Apr. 22, 1890.

Yes. A confabulated date.


> I would think the ends of the bandsaw would overlap when brazed, not sure why
> they're shown with a gap between them on the patent.

It would be an artist's impression, and it may have been clearer with
the gap. In practice, the ends would be ground to form a scarf joint,
as silver brazing isn't quite strong enough for a plain butt joint to
work.


> Looks like DoN made a
> good guess on the arch being used to hold the bandsaw while filing.

Yep.

Joe Gwinn

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

09/12/2011 3:20 AM

On 2011-12-08, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Another set has been posted to the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2419) I have two options for this:

A) Stamped over a signature, to prevent erasing and
re-signing by another party.

B) "Paper Welder" -- secures two or more sheets of paper
together without metal staples or glue.

2420) Looks a little like some early coffee maker bowls, but way too
small.

Perhaps a urine sample container, with the neck marking a
specific volume.

2421) Perhaps a fixture for making the wooden sections of a wagon
wheel which goes within the steel tire?

Otherwise -- for steaming wood to take a curve -- perhaps as
part of a guitar or other musical instrument?

2422) High vacuum fittings and couplings -- the "ConFlat" style IIRC.

The only part which I don't see are the spacers with a groove
for an O-ring to go between each pair of flats.

Nope -- not Conflat -- but another style, the KF style. (Which
went by several other names, too). Look at this Wikipedia
entry, the first photo:/

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_flange>

I've used both styles in the past.


2423) For when brass knuckles are not brutal enough?

Perhaps for meat tenderizing.

2424) Guesses below based on the proximity to the _Big Game Hunting_
book.

Perhaps for accessories for big game rifles -- ammo or similar
things.

Or perhaps (though not very convenient) a carrier for a serious
telephoto lens -- for big game hunting without killing.

Now to post, and then to go see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

09/12/2011 3:32 AM

On 2011-12-08, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> Item 2422 are all Tri-clover type stainless steel pipe fittings as used in
>> the beer,food, cosmetics and pharmaceutical industries.
>
>
> Good answer, the photo was taken at a winery.

Though these are also used in high vacuum physics, or something
very similar to them is.

This site seems to cover the Tri-Clover line, and the gaskets
(seen part way down) are not the same as the high vacuum fittings which
I was considering.

Enjoy,
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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

10/12/2011 2:01 AM

On 2011-12-09, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Alexander Thesoso" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> 2419 This looks like a Check Protector embosser.
>> Although the pattern looks a bit coarse, this looks like it was used to
>> emboss a pattern over the amount of a check to prevent alteration.
>>
>> http://www.officemuseum.com/check_protectors.htm
>> About halfway down the page.
>
>
> This answer is correct.

I really think that it is for keeping the amount and signature
from being modified, not for keeping the check from being submitted a
second time.

> Five of the six in this set were answered correctly,
> the band saw vise was a difficult one:

In part, because I was focusing on the arch, not the gap and
clamps along the bottom where the welding or brazing would be done. I
don't see the tongs which you mention in the posted answer.

I *can* see the arch being used to hold the freshly brazed blade
in position for filing off any excess brazing material, so it will feed
smoothly though the bandsaw's blade guides.

> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/12/set-418.html#answers

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 08/12/2011 4:03 AM

11/12/2011 6:11 AM

On 2011-12-10, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I really think that it is for keeping the amount and signature
>> from being modified, not for keeping the check from being submitted a
>> second time.
>
>
> I had read that somewhere but just now I couldn't find it again, so I took
> that part out.

O.k.

>>> Five of the six in this set were answered
>>> correctly,
>>> the band saw vise was a difficult one:
>>
>> In part, because I was focusing on the arch, not the gap and
>> clamps along the bottom where the welding or brazing would be done. I
>> don't see the tongs which you mention in the posted answer.
>
>
> I changed my wording on this answer to make it more clear regarding the
> tongs. Still no luck finding a patent for this vise, I was hoping to use
> some patent drawings in the answer.

I see that you found the patent and the drawings there help
clarify its use greatly.

Today, if I were using it for the intended purpose, I would
probably use a set of resistance soldering/welding tongs instead of
pre-heated ones (which would require a nearby forge fired up. :-)

>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2011/12/set-418.html#answers

Thanks,
DoN.

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