What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
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On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 6:38:30 PM UTC-4, ads wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:56:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, ads wrote:
> >> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:05:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 6:00:25 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> >> >> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
> >> >>
> >> >> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
> >> >> I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >These are the levelers that Leon recommended for my bookcase project, but
> >> >unfortunately the link is no longer valid:
> >> >
> >> >http://www.wwhardware.com/heavy-duty-leg-leveler-sygheavy-m10x75
> >> >
> >> >The current options at Woodworker's Hardware are these:
> >> >
> >> >https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/3687/s/base-levelers-and-components-base-levelers/
> >> >
> >> >The main (visual) difference between the bracketed levelers that Leon suggested
> >> >and the current option is that the older ones used a Allen wrench to adjust
> >> >them while the current version requires a screwdriver.
> >> >
> >> >Given the choice, I'd prefer an Allen wrench, especially for a heavy piece.
> >> >A more secure connection, more torque, etc.
> >> >
> >> >I recall that Leon sometimes mounts a cut-off Allen wrench in his (Festool?)
> >> >drill. I mounted mine in a small ratchet handle. Seems like a screwdriver
> >> >slot could be less convenient.
> >>
> >>
> >> The screwdriver slot probably costs less to produce as there's less
> >> metal required and simpler machining - probably less than $0.01 per
> >> piece difference to produce but it does improve the bottom line when
> >> you're dealing in thousands of pieces.
> >
> >Thanks for the ECON-101 lesson.
> >
> >Hey professor! What's the impact on the bottom line when you factor in how
> >many fewer pieces they sell after they cheapen the product?
>
> They almost never make a negative assumption about cost cutting.
But they do make mistakes.
Considering that there are Allen wrench options available, albeit at a higher
cost, (maybe because they are better?) Woodworkers Hardware has lost at least
one customer for that item. Me.
I won't be surprised if they lost 3: Me, Leon and Mike.
https://www.amazon.com/POWERTEC-71136-Heavy-Leveler-4-Pack/dp/B07D4C52X7
On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 6:00:25 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
>
> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
> I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
>
Mike,
These look very much like the ones we've used in the past:
https://www.amazon.com/POWERTEC-71136-Heavy-Leveler-4-Pack/dp/B07D4C52X7
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, ads wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:05:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 6:00:25 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> >> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
> >>
> >> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
> >> I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >These are the levelers that Leon recommended for my bookcase project, but
> >unfortunately the link is no longer valid:
> >
> >http://www.wwhardware.com/heavy-duty-leg-leveler-sygheavy-m10x75
> >
> >The current options at Woodworker's Hardware are these:
> >
> >https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/3687/s/base-levelers-and-components-base-levelers/
> >
> >The main (visual) difference between the bracketed levelers that Leon suggested
> >and the current option is that the older ones used a Allen wrench to adjust
> >them while the current version requires a screwdriver.
> >
> >Given the choice, I'd prefer an Allen wrench, especially for a heavy piece.
> >A more secure connection, more torque, etc.
> >
> >I recall that Leon sometimes mounts a cut-off Allen wrench in his (Festool?)
> >drill. I mounted mine in a small ratchet handle. Seems like a screwdriver
> >slot could be less convenient.
>
>
> The screwdriver slot probably costs less to produce as there's less
> metal required and simpler machining - probably less than $0.01 per
> piece difference to produce but it does improve the bottom line when
> you're dealing in thousands of pieces.
Thanks for the ECON-101 lesson.
Hey professor! What's the impact on the bottom line when you factor in how
many fewer pieces they sell after they cheapen the product?
>
> At least it has the nut at the bottom IF you can get to that nut -
> otherwise someone is asking "What nut put this together to make it
> hard to adjust?"
On any piece I've used them on the nut is not accessible. I drill a hole
in the bottom of the cabinet for the Allen wrench.
On 6/24/2019 5:00 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
>
> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
> I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
>
>
Sorry, I have been out of town.
These,
https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/3627/s/heavy-duty-leg-leveler-sygheavy-m10x75/category/837/
On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 6:00:25 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
>
> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
> I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
>
>
These are the levelers that Leon recommended for my bookcase project, but
unfortunately the link is no longer valid:
http://www.wwhardware.com/heavy-duty-leg-leveler-sygheavy-m10x75
The current options at Woodworker's Hardware are these:
https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/3687/s/base-levelers-and-components-base-levelers/
The main (visual) difference between the bracketed levelers that Leon suggested
and the current option is that the older ones used a Allen wrench to adjust
them while the current version requires a screwdriver.
Given the choice, I'd prefer an Allen wrench, especially for a heavy piece.
A more secure connection, more torque, etc.
I recall that Leon sometimes mounts a cut-off Allen wrench in his (Festool?)
drill. I mounted mine in a small ratchet handle. Seems like a screwdriver
slot could be less convenient.
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 19:56:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 3:06:58 PM UTC-4, ads wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:05:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 6:00:25 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
>> >> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
>> >>
>> >> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
>> >> I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >These are the levelers that Leon recommended for my bookcase project, but
>> >unfortunately the link is no longer valid:
>> >
>> >http://www.wwhardware.com/heavy-duty-leg-leveler-sygheavy-m10x75
>> >
>> >The current options at Woodworker's Hardware are these:
>> >
>> >https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/3687/s/base-levelers-and-components-base-levelers/
>> >
>> >The main (visual) difference between the bracketed levelers that Leon suggested
>> >and the current option is that the older ones used a Allen wrench to adjust
>> >them while the current version requires a screwdriver.
>> >
>> >Given the choice, I'd prefer an Allen wrench, especially for a heavy piece.
>> >A more secure connection, more torque, etc.
>> >
>> >I recall that Leon sometimes mounts a cut-off Allen wrench in his (Festool?)
>> >drill. I mounted mine in a small ratchet handle. Seems like a screwdriver
>> >slot could be less convenient.
>>
>>
>> The screwdriver slot probably costs less to produce as there's less
>> metal required and simpler machining - probably less than $0.01 per
>> piece difference to produce but it does improve the bottom line when
>> you're dealing in thousands of pieces.
>
>Thanks for the ECON-101 lesson.
>
>Hey professor! What's the impact on the bottom line when you factor in how
>many fewer pieces they sell after they cheapen the product?
They almost never make a negative assumption about cost cutting.
Something about an elephant in the room?
>
>>
>> At least it has the nut at the bottom IF you can get to that nut -
>> otherwise someone is asking "What nut put this together to make it
>> hard to adjust?"
>
>On any piece I've used them on the nut is not accessible. I drill a hole
>in the bottom of the cabinet for the Allen wrench.
Excellent way to make the adjustment available.
On 6/27/19 11:17 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 6/24/2019 5:00 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
>>
>> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and
>> figured I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
>>
>>
>
>
> Sorry, I have been out of town.
>
> These,
>
> https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/3627/s/heavy-duty-leg-leveler-sygheavy-m10x75/category/837/
>
Thanks.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:00:06 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
>
>I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
>I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
These work well for cabinets but I don't know about a bench.
<https://www.ptreeusa.com/shop_leg_levels.html>
<https://www.rockler.com/heavy-duty-corner-levelers>
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:05:21 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 6:00:25 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
>> What leveling feet were you bragging about a while back?
>>
>> I may be building a fairly long banquette bench for a client and figured
>> I might need them if the floor's not perfectly flat.
>>
>>
>
>These are the levelers that Leon recommended for my bookcase project, but
>unfortunately the link is no longer valid:
>
>http://www.wwhardware.com/heavy-duty-leg-leveler-sygheavy-m10x75
>
>The current options at Woodworker's Hardware are these:
>
>https://www.wwhardware.com/catalog/product/view/id/3687/s/base-levelers-and-components-base-levelers/
>
>The main (visual) difference between the bracketed levelers that Leon suggested
>and the current option is that the older ones used a Allen wrench to adjust
>them while the current version requires a screwdriver.
>
>Given the choice, I'd prefer an Allen wrench, especially for a heavy piece.
>A more secure connection, more torque, etc.
>
>I recall that Leon sometimes mounts a cut-off Allen wrench in his (Festool?)
>drill. I mounted mine in a small ratchet handle. Seems like a screwdriver
>slot could be less convenient.
The screwdriver slot probably costs less to produce as there's less
metal required and simpler machining - probably less than $0.01 per
piece difference to produce but it does improve the bottom line when
you're dealing in thousands of pieces.
At least it has the nut at the bottom IF you can get to that nut -
otherwise someone is asking "What nut put this together to make it
hard to adjust?"