I had planned on making my planer stand short enough so I could
slide it under my so-called workbench, out of the way. I had also
planned on it being low enough so I could sit while using it.
The first part of that went well enough. The second part, not so
well. Seems it puts it so low, it's not comfortable to use.
Yes, the simple way would be to make the stand taller. However,
that means it would have to be taking up valuable space. My shop is
small. So, I'm thinking I've got to come up with something so I can
still store it under the bench.
First I thought of some kind of lift, or elevating, stand.
Couldn't come up with anythng that was reasonable, or affordable.
Google didn't yield any gems either. Then, one thought was making a
stand that would lean, with a support, with wheels, so it could be slid
under. One thing, it would then stick out from under the bench,no major
biggie. Second, the damn thing is to heavy for me to set upright, and
lean back, with my back like it is. Several other ideas, about the same
results.
Thought of buying one of those small block and tackles, that can
lift up to about 300 lbs. But, that would be the only use for it,
possibly, and didn't really feel like putting out the $. Then thought
of a come-along, which would work, and be handy to boot.
Finaly thought are to just make a small block and tackle, easy
enough, and plenty of screp plywood. Then just make a new stand, with a
shelf on the front, so the planer can be lifted up, the stand slid under
it. Then, when finished, lift the planer, slide the stand back, lower
the planer to the shelf, and slide the whole package under the bench. I
may have to buy some dowels, and possibly some rope, but would be the
only out of pocket expenses. I'll just hook the block and tackle to one
of the rafters. Hmm, may have to buy a hook too, but probably not, I
can probably come up with something.
Now all I have to do is figure just how high I want it this time,
and make the stand, and, block and tackle. No prob.
It's a lot more fun figuring out how to do things like that, then
just to buy the parts. Life is basically good.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Have you thought about copying a motorcycle lift ?
Puff
"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> I had planned on making my planer stand short enough so I could
> slide it under my so-called workbench, out of the way. I had also
> planned on it being low enough so I could sit while using it. =20
>=20
> The first part of that went well enough. The second part, not so
> well. Seems it puts it so low, it's not comfortable to use. =20
>=20
> Yes, the simple way would be to make the stand taller. However,
> that means it would have to be taking up valuable space. My shop is
> small. So, I'm thinking I've got to come up with something so I can
> still store it under the bench.
>=20
> First I thought of some kind of lift, or elevating, stand.
> Couldn't come up with anythng that was reasonable, or affordable.
> Google didn't yield any gems either. Then, one thought was making a
> stand that would lean, with a support, with wheels, so it could be =
slid
> under. One thing, it would then stick out from under the bench,no =
major
> biggie. Second, the damn thing is to heavy for me to set upright, and
> lean back, with my back like it is. Several other ideas, about the =
same
> results.
>=20
> Thought of buying one of those small block and tackles, that can
> lift up to about 300 lbs. But, that would be the only use for it,
> possibly, and didn't really feel like putting out the $. Then thought
> of a come-along, which would work, and be handy to boot. =20
>=20
> Finaly thought are to just make a small block and tackle, easy
> enough, and plenty of screp plywood. Then just make a new stand, with =
a
> shelf on the front, so the planer can be lifted up, the stand slid =
under
> it. Then, when finished, lift the planer, slide the stand back, lower
> the planer to the shelf, and slide the whole package under the bench. =
I
> may have to buy some dowels, and possibly some rope, but would be the
> only out of pocket expenses. I'll just hook the block and tackle to =
one
> of the rafters. Hmm, may have to buy a hook too, but probably not, I
> can probably come up with something.
>=20
> Now all I have to do is figure just how high I want it this =
time,
> and make the stand, and, block and tackle. No prob. =20
>=20
> It's a lot more fun figuring out how to do things like that, then
> just to buy the parts. Life is basically good.
>=20
> JOAT
> It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
> - Pete Maccarrone
>=20
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT =20
> Web Page Update 3 Feb 2004. =20
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 7:33am (EST+3) [email protected] (Puff=A0Griffis)
queries:
Have you thought about copying a
motorcycle lift ? Puff
Yep, and variations thereof. Too complex, too likely to involve
funds. Trying to keep it as simple as possible.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
[email protected] (T.) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I had planned on making my planer stand short enough so I could
> slide it under my so-called workbench, out of the way. I had also
> planned on it being low enough so I could sit while using it.
>
> The first part of that went well enough. The second part, not so
> well. Seems it puts it so low, it's not comfortable to use.
>
> Yes, the simple way would be to make the stand taller. However,
> that means it would have to be taking up valuable space. My shop is
> small. So, I'm thinking I've got to come up with something so I can
> still store it under the bench.
>
I have space issues too, so I made a stand that holds both my planer
AND the sander. Seems to work well, for me: low, but not too low for
comfort, though I don't have a bad back . . . Bottom shelf provides
additional storage space. Below is a picture:
http://home.att.net/~slurban3/Photos/Shopdog-480.jpg
Cheers,
Scott
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 10:20am (EST-3) [email protected] (Scott) SAYS:
I have space issues too, so I made a stand that holds both my planer AND
the sander. Seems to work well, for me: low, but not too low for
comfort, though I don't have a bad back . . . Bottom shelf provides
additional storage space. Below is a picture:
Looks like your's is a tad higher than mine would be, but it would
still be too low for me, with my back. I could only lean over to use
it, for a very short period, to work for any length of time at all (say,
more than about a minute), I'd have to be able to sit up straighter.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 4 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
In article <[email protected]>,
T. <[email protected]> wrote:
> I had planned on making my planer stand short enough so I could
>slide it under my so-called workbench, out of the way. I had also
>planned on it being low enough so I could sit while using it.
>
> The first part of that went well enough. The second part, not so
>well. Seems it puts it so low, it's not comfortable to use.
>
> Yes, the simple way would be to make the stand taller. However,
>that means it would have to be taking up valuable space. My shop is
>small. So, I'm thinking I've got to come up with something so I can
>still store it under the bench.
>
> First I thought of some kind of lift, or elevating, stand.
>Couldn't come up with anythng that was reasonable, or affordable.
>Google didn't yield any gems either. Then, one thought was making a
>stand that would lean, with a support, with wheels, so it could be slid
>under. One thing, it would then stick out from under the bench,no major
>biggie. Second, the damn thing is to heavy for me to set upright, and
>lean back, with my back like it is. Several other ideas, about the same
>results.
>
> Thought of buying one of those small block and tackles, that can
>lift up to about 300 lbs. But, that would be the only use for it,
>possibly, and didn't really feel like putting out the $. Then thought
>of a come-along, which would work, and be handy to boot.
>
> Finaly thought are to just make a small block and tackle, easy
>enough, and plenty of screp plywood. Then just make a new stand, with a
>shelf on the front, so the planer can be lifted up, the stand slid under
>it. Then, when finished, lift the planer, slide the stand back, lower
>the planer to the shelf, and slide the whole package under the bench. I
>may have to buy some dowels, and possibly some rope, but would be the
>only out of pocket expenses. I'll just hook the block and tackle to one
>of the rafters. Hmm, may have to buy a hook too, but probably not, I
>can probably come up with something.
>
> Now all I have to do is figure just how high I want it this time,
>and make the stand, and, block and tackle. No prob.
>
> It's a lot more fun figuring out how to do things like that, then
>just to buy the parts. Life is basically good.
>
You might want to contemplate a "trundle bed", as a source of inspiration.
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 1:34pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Robert=A0Bonomi) claims:
You might want to contemplate a "trundle bed", as a source of
inspiration.
Why?
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 3 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
In article <[email protected]>,
T. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 1:34pm (EST+5) [email protected]
>(Robert Bonomi) claims:
>You might want to contemplate a "trundle bed", as a source of
>inspiration.
>
> Why?
"Because."
You want something that:
rolls away _under_ something else.
you pull out, and raise to 'working' level.
is stable/steady in the raised position.
A trundle bed works *exactly* in that manner.
You're right, there isn't any _conceivable_ reason why someone might suggest
it as a possible idea source.
>
>JOAT
>It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
>- Pete Maccarrone
>
>Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
>Web Page Update 3 Feb 2004.
>Some tunes I like.
>http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
>
Thu, Feb 5, 2004, 8:40am (EST+5) [email protected]
(Robert=A0Bonomi) says:
"Because."
You want something that:
=A0=A0rolls away _under_ something else.
=A0=A0=A0=A0you pull out, and raise to 'working' level. is stable/steady
in the raised position.
However, I thought I had also made it clear, I have a bad back, so
no heavy lifting.
A trundle bed works *exactly* in that manner.
No, a trundle bed doesn't work "exactly" in that manner, by its
very definition:
From WordNet (r) 1.7 (wn)
trundle bed n : a low bed to be slid under a higher bed
Which is why I didn't consider one as a possible idea source.
You're right, there isn't any _conceivable_ reason why someone might
suggest it as a possible idea source.
Well, seeing as how you seem to have a different definition of a
traditional trundle bed than I do, perhaps you would like to describe
the raising mechanism, or, to show where someone can see one. Although,
given that it's an extra bed, that means probably more than one person
would be required to raise one. So, what's the mechanism?
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 4 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
In article <[email protected]>,
T. <[email protected]> wrote:
>Thu, Feb 5, 2004, 8:40am (EST+5) [email protected]
>(Robert Bonomi) says:
>"Because."
>You want something that:
> rolls away _under_ something else.
> you pull out, and raise to 'working' level. is stable/steady
>in the raised position.
>
> However, I thought I had also made it clear, I have a bad back, so
>no heavy lifting.
>
>A trundle bed works *exactly* in that manner.
>
> No, a trundle bed doesn't work "exactly" in that manner, by its
>very definition:
>From WordNet (r) 1.7 (wn)
>trundle bed n : a low bed to be slid under a higher bed
>Which is why I didn't consider one as a possible idea source.
>
>You're right, there isn't any _conceivable_ reason why someone might
>suggest it as a possible idea source.
>
> Well, seeing as how you seem to have a different definition of a
>traditional trundle bed than I do, perhaps you would like to describe
>the raising mechanism, or, to show where someone can see one. Although,
>given that it's an extra bed, that means probably more than one person
>would be required to raise one.
With traditional trundle beds, a ten-year-old can do it. with one hand.
The mechanism is *spring*loaded*.
It locks in both the up and down positions.
Pull it out, release the lock, and it 'pops up', and locks in the up position.
To put it away, typically you sit on it, release the lock, and it goes down
and locks.
Fri, Feb 6, 2004, 9:12am (EST+5) [email protected]
(Robert=A0Bonomi) claims:
With traditional trundle beds, a ten-year-old can do it. with one hand.
The mechanism is *spring*loaded*.
It locks in both the up and down positions.
Pull it out, release the lock, and it 'pops up', and locks in the up
position.
To put it away, typically you sit on it, release the lock, and it goes
down and locks.
So, trundle beds have been made like that from the start? Didn't
know that. Funny, I would have thought something like would have been
very recent, like in just the last few years. How many hundreds of
years they been like that?
But, you didn't provide any site where one of these can be viewed,
and further explained, perhaps with pictures, or drawings, of the
mechanism. I thought I had made that request, but apparently not.
Oops, checking back, I see I did, but I put an "or" in there, making it
an option, rather than an "and", to explicitly request it. So, how
about providing that information now?
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 5 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Hey Joat, how about putting the planer on a spinning type thingy. I
think I have seen such a thing but it had three different tools that
can be spun to the top when you wanted to use it.
Ted
[email protected] (T.) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I had planned on making my planer stand short enough so I could
> slide it under my so-called workbench, out of the way. I had also
> planned on it being low enough so I could sit while using it.
>
> The first part of that went well enough. The second part, not so
> well. Seems it puts it so low, it's not comfortable to use.
>
> Yes, the simple way would be to make the stand taller. However,
> that means it would have to be taking up valuable space. My shop is
> small. So, I'm thinking I've got to come up with something so I can
> still store it under the bench.
>
> First I thought of some kind of lift, or elevating, stand.
> Couldn't come up with anythng that was reasonable, or affordable.
> Google didn't yield any gems either. Then, one thought was making a
> stand that would lean, with a support, with wheels, so it could be slid
> under. One thing, it would then stick out from under the bench,no major
> biggie. Second, the damn thing is to heavy for me to set upright, and
> lean back, with my back like it is. Several other ideas, about the same
> results.
>
> Thought of buying one of those small block and tackles, that can
> lift up to about 300 lbs. But, that would be the only use for it,
> possibly, and didn't really feel like putting out the $. Then thought
> of a come-along, which would work, and be handy to boot.
>
> Finaly thought are to just make a small block and tackle, easy
> enough, and plenty of screp plywood. Then just make a new stand, with a
> shelf on the front, so the planer can be lifted up, the stand slid under
> it. Then, when finished, lift the planer, slide the stand back, lower
> the planer to the shelf, and slide the whole package under the bench. I
> may have to buy some dowels, and possibly some rope, but would be the
> only out of pocket expenses. I'll just hook the block and tackle to one
> of the rafters. Hmm, may have to buy a hook too, but probably not, I
> can probably come up with something.
>
> Now all I have to do is figure just how high I want it this time,
> and make the stand, and, block and tackle. No prob.
>
> It's a lot more fun figuring out how to do things like that, then
> just to buy the parts. Life is basically good.
>
> JOAT
> It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
> - Pete Maccarrone
>
> Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
> Web Page Update 3 Feb 2004.
> Some tunes I like.
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 5:58am (EST-3) [email protected] (Bigpole) says:
Hey Joat, how about putting the planer on a spinning type thingy. I
think I have seen such a thing but it had three different tools that can
be spun to the top when you wanted to use it.
I'd thunk about something along thos lines, but again, I'd have to
lift.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 4 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
I kinda like that idea ;)
Here is 1 - make the planer on a sliding track (up and down)
get an old jack and put it under it - when you want use it - slid it out -
jack it up.
When you are down - jack it down.
I still like the flipping table idea tho.
"Joe Willmann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Bigpole) wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > Hey Joat, how about putting the planer on a spinning type thingy. I
> > think I have seen such a thing but it had three different tools that
> > can be spun to the top when you wanted to use it.
> >
> > Ted
> >
>
> Something like this????
>
> Lets say your work bench is 32 inches tall. Make a rolling stand that
> is 30 inches tall, 24 inches wide and 12 inches deap. You want the top
> attached so that is flips over. Make the pivit point slightly off
> center so that the weight of the top holds it against a stop. Put a pin
> in so that it can be locked in place. Now attach your planer to the
> top. With the top flipped up the planer sits up nice and high. With it
> down it fits under the bench.
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 4:49pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Rob=A0V) says:
I kinda like that idea ;)
Here is 1 - make the planer on a sliding track (up and down) get an old
jack and put it under it - when you want use it - slid it out - jack it
up.
When you are down - jack it down.
I still like the flipping table idea tho.
Thought about something like that too. Nope. Too complex.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 4 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
[email protected] (Bigpole) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Hey Joat, how about putting the planer on a spinning type thingy. I
> think I have seen such a thing but it had three different tools that
> can be spun to the top when you wanted to use it.
>
> Ted
>
Something like this????
Lets say your work bench is 32 inches tall. Make a rolling stand that
is 30 inches tall, 24 inches wide and 12 inches deap. You want the top
attached so that is flips over. Make the pivit point slightly off
center so that the weight of the top holds it against a stop. Put a pin
in so that it can be locked in place. Now attach your planer to the
top. With the top flipped up the planer sits up nice and high. With it
down it fits under the bench.
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 4:01pm (EST+5) [email protected]
(Joe=A0Willmann) asks, with waaaay to many question marks:
Something like this???? <snip>
I'd thunk of that too, and again, I'd have to lift.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 4 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's a lot more fun figuring out how to do things like that, then
> just to buy the parts. Life is basically good.
Agreed. The fun part for me is modifying something to make it easy for me to
use. I might curse and swear through the entire modification process, but
when it's finished, it's all worth it.
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 11:13pm (EST+5) [email protected] (Upscale) claims:
Agreed. The fun part for me is modifying something to make it easy for
me to use. I might curse and swear through the entire modification
process, but when it's finished, it's all worth it.
You curse, and swear? In your shop? I'm shocked.
I'm thinking that my final design may be a two part stand. A base,
that bolts to the bottom of the planer, and the stand itself. The base
will fit orver the top of the stand, and will be held, so it can't slip
off. Simple, sturdy, and will fit under the bench. The only down-side
would be planer would need to be lifted, and I'd use a small block and
tackle for that. I figure anything else would be too complex,
complicated, or cost out-of pocket, which I prefer not to do - I've got
other thangs that will cost me, and have have higher priorities.
Basically, it seems to be that way, or a one-piece stand, that ta'es up
some otherwise usable space.
On the other thand, I do have a couple of things that are now
taking up space, and that could go under the bench instead. But, If I
finally do decide to go that route, I will make a top, that figs over
the laner, and sit steady, making it into a small table, when not used
as a planer. Hmm, now that I think about it, that could be more useful
than just freeing up the space it would take up. Hmmm, the more I think
on it, the more appealing it seems. And, the top/table will still be
usefull, as a stand-alone. I like that idea. I have something similar
over my lathe, very simple to make, and very useful. Yeah, that idea is
looking better, the more I think on it.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 4 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
A thought:
Lever to lift one end, place appropriately sized block underneath, go
to other end, repeat. The block could be mounted so as to swing down
into place. Block could be made of almost anything, 2x4s, log from the
back yard cut to size, whatever. Ditto for the lever and fulcrum.
To lower, reverse procedure.
Mike
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 01:48:57 -0500 (EST), [email protected] (T.)
wrote:
> I had planned on making my planer stand short enough so I could
>slide it under my so-called workbench, out of the way. I had also
>planned on it being low enough so I could sit while using it.
>
> The first part of that went well enough. The second part, not so
>well. Seems it puts it so low, it's not comfortable to use.
>
> Yes, the simple way would be to make the stand taller. However,
>that means it would have to be taking up valuable space. My shop is
>small. So, I'm thinking I've got to come up with something so I can
>still store it under the bench.
>
> First I thought of some kind of lift, or elevating, stand.
>Couldn't come up with anythng that was reasonable, or affordable.
>Google didn't yield any gems either. Then, one thought was making a
>stand that would lean, with a support, with wheels, so it could be slid
>under. One thing, it would then stick out from under the bench,no major
>biggie. Second, the damn thing is to heavy for me to set upright, and
>lean back, with my back like it is. Several other ideas, about the same
>results.
>
> Thought of buying one of those small block and tackles, that can
>lift up to about 300 lbs. But, that would be the only use for it,
>possibly, and didn't really feel like putting out the $. Then thought
>of a come-along, which would work, and be handy to boot.
>
> Finaly thought are to just make a small block and tackle, easy
>enough, and plenty of screp plywood. Then just make a new stand, with a
>shelf on the front, so the planer can be lifted up, the stand slid under
>it. Then, when finished, lift the planer, slide the stand back, lower
>the planer to the shelf, and slide the whole package under the bench. I
>may have to buy some dowels, and possibly some rope, but would be the
>only out of pocket expenses. I'll just hook the block and tackle to one
>of the rafters. Hmm, may have to buy a hook too, but probably not, I
>can probably come up with something.
>
> Now all I have to do is figure just how high I want it this time,
>and make the stand, and, block and tackle. No prob.
>
> It's a lot more fun figuring out how to do things like that, then
>just to buy the parts. Life is basically good.
>
>JOAT
>It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
>- Pete Maccarrone
>
>Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
>Web Page Update 3 Feb 2004.
>Some tunes I like.
>http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
Wed, Feb 4, 2004, 11:26am [email protected]
(Mike=A0Patterson) says:
A thought: <snip>
I think not. Sounds like I might need three hands to do it, and it
doesn't sound like it'd be really sturdy.
JOAT
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts.
- Pete Maccarrone
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 4 Feb 2004.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/