Hi
I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
screw ( click -click - click)
What do people prefer?
Sonnich
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:56:18 -0700 (PDT), Sonnich Jensen
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
>help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
>work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
>so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
>in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
>screw ( click -click - click)
>
>What do people prefer?
>
>Sonnich
They sound like tools my grandfather used to use.
If it is more than one or two screws, I reach for the electric. If it
is even one screw and more than an inch long, I reach for the
electric.
For driving screws, small and light is more important than the 48 volt
sodium hydrogenated lithium oxide led batteries that last 200 hours
but weigh 20 pounds. A simple 9.6V or 12.2V work well for 99.5% of
what we do.
Sonnich Jensen <[email protected]> wrote in news:15fd5743-eb90-
[email protected]:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
> Sonnich
For long screws and driving them in to wood, powered. For shorter screws
and machine threads, often manual. It depends on the application. The
power screwdriver is fast and strong, while the manual screwdriver is
quick and easy to control.
I've found the powered "stick" drivers to be occasionally useful, but
usually bulky and short on battery.
You can combine the two if you'd like to get the best of both worlds.
Drive the screw most the way with the powered driver, then finish up with
the manual.
If you're removing screws that have been painted or otherwise covered, a
powered impact driver can be a great help. It will allow you to keep the
bit solidly pushed in to the screw head while the driver turns the screw
out.
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
Sonnich Jensen <[email protected]> wrote in news:15fd5743-eb90-
[email protected]:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
> Sonnich
I thought of this thread today... As I went back into the garage to get a
manual screwdriver. Normally, I'd just use whatever tool I had to check
if a screw was tight, but there was one catch: The screwhead was under
water.
So for underwater screws, I prefer a manual screwdriver. You don't even
have to wipe it off if it's clean water. ;-)
Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
On Jun 6, 10:49=A0pm, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> Sonnich Jensen <[email protected]> wrote in news:15fd5743-eb90-
> [email protected]:
>
> > Hi
>
> > I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> > help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> > work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> > so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> > in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> > screw ( click -click - click)
>
> > What do people prefer?
>
> > Sonnich
>
> I thought of this thread today... As I went back into the garage to get a
> manual screwdriver. =A0Normally, I'd just use whatever tool I had to chec=
k
> if a screw was tight, but there was one catch: The screwhead was under
> water.
>
> So for underwater screws, I prefer a manual screwdriver. =A0You don't eve=
n
> have to wipe it off if it's clean water. =A0;-)
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
After reading all this I realise that I am old fashioned.... and that
I need to invent at water proof screwdriver :)
On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:10:44 -0700 (PDT), Sonnich Jensen
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Jun 6, 10:49 pm, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> Sonnich Jensen <[email protected]> wrote in news:15fd5743-eb90-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>> > Hi
>>
>> > I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
>> > help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
>> > work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>>
>> > so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
>> > in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
>> > screw ( click -click - click)
>>
>> > What do people prefer?
>>
>> > Sonnich
>>
>> I thought of this thread today... As I went back into the garage to get a
>> manual screwdriver. Normally, I'd just use whatever tool I had to check
>> if a screw was tight, but there was one catch: The screwhead was under
>> water.
>>
>> So for underwater screws, I prefer a manual screwdriver. You don't even
>> have to wipe it off if it's clean water. ;-)
>>
>> Puckdropper
>> --
>> Make it to fit, don't make it fit.
>
>After reading all this I realise that I am old fashioned.... and that
>I need to invent at water proof screwdriver :)
I have a set of stainless screwdrivers. Perhaps that's the sort you're
looking for. ;-)
On Jun 1, 9:42=A0pm, "HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Do they even MAKE manual screwdrivers any more?
You're kidding............. right?
On Jun 1, 4:56=A0pm, Sonnich Jensen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
> Sonnich
It seems I reach for my cordless electric Black & Decker screwdriver
more all the time. I originally only used it if I had LOTS of screws
to drive, but now, I often use it even for only one screw. It just
saves time. However, if a screw is tight, or I'm worried about
marring my work, especially if I'm using straight slotted screws for a
traditional look, I'll often finish up with a manual screwdriver. If
I have a small, picky, job to do, I like tiny, old, wooden handled
screwdrivers... If you have a lot of time, you can search this group
for "the perfect screwdriver rack."
HeyBub wrote:
> Sonnich Jensen wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
>> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when
>> I
>> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>>
>> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
>> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
>> screw ( click -click - click)
>>
>> What do people prefer?
>>
>
> Do they even MAKE manual screwdrivers any more?
sure....but they come with a mexican<g>
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 02:46:15 -0400, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Puckdropper wrote:
>> Sonnich Jensen<[email protected]> wrote in news:15fd5743-eb90-
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
>>> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
>>> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>>>
>>> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
>>> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
>>> screw ( click -click - click)
>>>
>>> What do people prefer?
>>>
>>> Sonnich
>>
>> For long screws and driving them in to wood, powered. For shorter screws
>> and machine threads, often manual. It depends on the application. The
>> power screwdriver is fast and strong, while the manual screwdriver is
>> quick and easy to control.
>>
>> I've found the powered "stick" drivers to be occasionally useful, but
>> usually bulky and short on battery.
>>
>> You can combine the two if you'd like to get the best of both worlds.
>> Drive the screw most the way with the powered driver, then finish up with
>> the manual.
>>
>> If you're removing screws that have been painted or otherwise covered, a
>> powered impact driver can be a great help. It will allow you to keep the
>> bit solidly pushed in to the screw head while the driver turns the screw
>> out.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>
>
>After reading your post, I went off to learn something about impact
>drivers. The thought that the thread at the following link did a good
>job of comparing/contrasting drills, hammer drill and impact drills.
>Here it is for anyone who may be interested:
>
>http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/
Not a bad article.
LJ, who has a Bosch 14.4v Impactor kit for sale at $99 + s/h.
--
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are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> If it is more than one or two screws, I reach for the electric. If it
> is even one screw and more than an inch long, I reach for the
> electric.
>
> For driving screws, small and light is more important than the 48 volt
> sodium hydrogenated lithium oxide led batteries that last 200 hours
> but weigh 20 pounds. A simple 9.6V or 12.2V work well for 99.5% of
> what we do.
Indeed. I find that I am increasingly reaching for a little 3.6v Dremel
screw gun that my son gave me a few years ago. For short screws, it's the
ticket. Extremely light, small, and enough torque for small jobs. It's not
my go-to gun, but it does have its place in my world now, for the small
stuff.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
Both old fashioned screwdrivers and screwguns. It does depend on the task
at hand, but all things being equal, I'll reach for one of my cordless guns
everytime.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Both.
I have tried the straight electric screwdriver types and people are
asking for tendonitis using those things. You can't torque your wrist
tendons without movement or you damage tendons using them without
oxygen to them by motion. Too hard on you.
Manual torque screwdrivers or right angle drill type handle, for me. I
have an impact unit and I am not impressed, except for on decking
boards. Way too noisy... you will need hearing protection inside tight
spaces and too many heads and bits stripped.
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"Sonnich Jensen" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Hi
I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
screw ( click -click - click)
What do people prefer?
Sonnich
Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
> Sonnich
Like others it depends on the project at hand, I use an impact for driving
tek screws into sheet metal, battery screw gun for mounting cover plates and
other repetitive tasks where clutch control is important. Hand screwdrivers
for delicate work or mounting items on soft material like ceiling tile.
I see a disturbing trend on the job site where younger workers grab the
impact driver for everything including retaining screws in thin aluminum
housings and ceiling tile support brackets that can be bent easily.
Proper tool for the job is my rule
--
PV
"If Inflammable means more flammable, then what does incompetent mean?'
On 6/1/2012 4:56 PM, Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
> Sonnich
Put in enough screws and you will end up with a powered driver. Put in
enough Philips head screws and you will switch to square drive. Put in
enough Square drive and you will switch to Torx/star drive.
"Leon" <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 6/1/2012 4:56 PM, Sonnich Jensen wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
>> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
>> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>>
>> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
>> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
>> screw ( click -click - click)
>>
>> What do people prefer?
>>
>> Sonnich
>
> Put in enough screws and you will end up with a powered driver. Put in enough
> Philips head screws and you will switch to square drive. Put in enough Square
> drive and you will switch to Torx/star drive.
Mangle enough brass screws and you'll reach for the manual driver.
Art
Puckdropper wrote:
> Sonnich Jensen<[email protected]> wrote in news:15fd5743-eb90-
> [email protected]:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
>> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
>> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>>
>> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
>> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
>> screw ( click -click - click)
>>
>> What do people prefer?
>>
>> Sonnich
>
> For long screws and driving them in to wood, powered. For shorter screws
> and machine threads, often manual. It depends on the application. The
> power screwdriver is fast and strong, while the manual screwdriver is
> quick and easy to control.
>
> I've found the powered "stick" drivers to be occasionally useful, but
> usually bulky and short on battery.
>
> You can combine the two if you'd like to get the best of both worlds.
> Drive the screw most the way with the powered driver, then finish up with
> the manual.
>
> If you're removing screws that have been painted or otherwise covered, a
> powered impact driver can be a great help. It will allow you to keep the
> bit solidly pushed in to the screw head while the driver turns the screw
> out.
>
> Puckdropper
After reading your post, I went off to learn something about impact
drivers. The thought that the thread at the following link did a good
job of comparing/contrasting drills, hammer drill and impact drills.
Here it is for anyone who may be interested:
http://www.thewoodwhisperer.com/articles/drills-vs-hammer-drills-vs-impact-drivers/
Bill
Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
> Sonnich
1. A few screws up to #8 x 2" - hand, ratchet screw driver with appropriate
bit
2. A few bigger screws - brace with appropriate bit
3. A lot of screws - drill with appropriate bit
--
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Sonnich Jensen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
Do they even MAKE manual screwdrivers any more?
"Sonnich Jensen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi
>
> I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
> help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
> work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
> so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
> in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
> screw ( click -click - click)
>
> What do people prefer?
>
> Sonnich
i don't think it matters what others prefer, it's what you prefer.
me, I prefer my 12v bosch for little stuff and my 18v impact driver for
bigger stuff.
but that said, I still use the old manual on occasion, too
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:56:18 -0700 (PDT), Sonnich Jensen
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi
>
>I was lately doing something with large items, and I had a friend to
>help me - and he asked why I dont use a electric screwdriver - when I
>work I'd like to have a feeling with the items I make....
>
>so I use and ordinary screwdriver and a special one, with the handle
>in 90 degrees and when turned, it can go back without turning the
>screw ( click -click - click)
>
>What do people prefer?
>
>Sonnich
I have generic screwdrivers, a Yankee (push) screwdriver, three
different power drill/drivers. The tool depends on the job. For
assembling ceiling fans, I prefer a specific drill/driver because the
torque can be adjusted down appropriately for mounting the blades to
their arms (equal torque is critical in having a fan that doesn't
wobble).
Sometimes the location of a screw determines the tool - perhaps a
deep, narrow space that requires a long, thin shaft or perhaps close
quarters that require a stubby screwdriver or [your circumstances
here]