Angela Sekeris wrote:
>>
>>> And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
>>
>> --
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> - Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
>> PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> That pure racism.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
On Dec 23, 10:32=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 21, 7:08=A0pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >Angela Sekeris wrote:
>
> > >> On Dec 20, 11:57=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > >>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> > >>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> > >>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS4uW2=
PT-190
>
> > >>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3M7IR6jkpc
>
> > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUaxXhwxiaSI&feature=3Drelated
>
> > >>> --
>
> > >----------------------------------------------------------------------=
---- -
> > >>> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> > >>> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> > >> That pure racism.
>
> > > =A0Really? =A0 ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>
> > Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>
> =A0.... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
I see your logic skills haven't improved any.
On 12/23/2009 5:42 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, jo4hn <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> One of my favorite carols: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> mahalo,
>> jo4hn
>
> Hey, didn't you get the damn memo? Fer crap sakes, you're not suppose
> to say "Christmas" anymore. From now on you're suppose to say
> something like "Holiday" instead so you don't offend any of them
> sensitive sons-of-bitches!
>
> You can say "Chanukkah" or "Kwanza" or some shit like that cause that
> only pisses off us Christians and we know nobody gives a damn about
> what we think.
>
> If you persist I will have to report you to the Politically Correct
> Police. Don't think I won't you insensitive S.O.B.
>
> Gordon Shumway
>
Oh, you are just gonna LOVE this:
http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=20535
Merry Christmas ....
--
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Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
On Dec 23, 11:06=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 12:01=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 23, 10:32=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 21, 7:08=A0pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
>
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >Angela Sekeris wrote:
>
> > > > >> On Dec 20, 11:57=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrot=
e:
> > > > >>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > > > >>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> > > > >>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> > > > >>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS=
4uW2PT-190
>
> > > > >>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3M7IR6jkpc
>
> > > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUaxXhwxiaSI&feature=3Drelated
>
> > > > >>> --
>
> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------- -
> > > > >>> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> > > > >>> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> > > > >> That pure racism.
>
> > > > > =A0Really? =A0 ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>
> > > > Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>
> > > =A0.... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>
> > I see your logic skills haven't improved any.
>
> My bad. I meant to say that all Christians shoot and kill abortion
> doctors.
Same "logic". Not surprising that you'd come up with something this
stupid, though.
> And I won't be discussing logic with someone who obviously doesn't
> have a clue of what logic is.
I'm sure you talk to yourself, but don't discuss logic. The other guy
won't understand.
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>One of my favorite carols: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
And mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
--
This episode raises disturbing questions about scientific standards,
at least in highly political areas such as global warming. Still,
it's remarkable to see how quickly corrective information can now
spread. After years of ignored freedom-of-information requests and
stonewalling, all it took was disclosure to change the debate. Even
the most influential scientists must prove their case in the court
of public opiniona court that, thanks to the Web, is one where
eventually all views get a hearing. --Gordon Crovitz, WSJ 12/9/09
"LDosser" wrote:
> The jerk storms off and the next passenger asks her how she can be
> so pleasant and she says "Well, he's going to Miami but his luggage
> is going to Japan." Anytime I get peeved I try to think about the
> possibility of my luggage winding up in Japan ...
====================================
In the same vein, NEVER get on the wrong side of the wait staff of a
restaurant where you are eating.
Lew
In article <[email protected]>, krw
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
> either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also fall
> into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades just by
> being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone) situation. Once
> I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me until I boarded the
> plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
Once upon a time, I had my connecting flight home cancelled in MPLS,
last flight of the day to Toontown.
I ended up in line behind an arsehole who was blustering at the woman
behind the desk... red-faced cursing, and I'm sure she was hit with
spittle.
When he finally stormed off, I walked up, smiled and said "Wow. You're
having a worse night than I am, aren't you? What a jerk."
She gave me the star treatment. Taxi chit instead of shuttle, hotel
upgrade, seat upgrade on the flight the next morning, overnight kit,
the works.
Being polite to people who are trying to help you. What a concept...
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
>> On 12/24/2009 3:19 PM, krw wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:35:53 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> ... snip
>>
>> I have something north of a million miles in the air. It is my
>> consistent
>> experience that 10% more patience and 10% more courtesy yield a 100%
>> better travel experience. And you're right, these people do have a
>> crummy job so being nasty to them is both mean and pointless (and
>> self defeating).
>>
>
> Being obnoxious to the people who enforce policy is pointless. They are
> just following orders that are set by someone else. It's the same as
> yelling at the sales droid or other front-line people. They don't make
> policy. Unfortunately, the powers that be know that and make the
> policymakers pretty darn hard to find -- *those* are the ones you to which
> your ire needs to be directed.
>
Not at all. Almost all of the time, there is a degree of interpretation
associated with policy. That's why you can reach resolution to issues when
they escalate to higher levels. It only takes an effort from both sides to
be realistic to eliminate the biggest percentage of the problems and the
crummy life they people supposedly have.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 12/24/2009 3:19 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:35:53 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
... snip
>
> I have something north of a million miles in the air. It is my consistent
> experience that 10% more patience and 10% more courtesy yield a 100%
> better travel experience. And you're right, these people do have a
> crummy job so being nasty to them is both mean and pointless (and
> self defeating).
>
Being obnoxious to the people who enforce policy is pointless. They are
just following orders that are set by someone else. It's the same as
yelling at the sales droid or other front-line people. They don't make
policy. Unfortunately, the powers that be know that and make the
policymakers pretty darn hard to find -- *those* are the ones you to which
your ire needs to be directed.
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
Dave Balderstone wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, krw
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
>> either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also
>> fall into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades
>> just by being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone)
>> situation. Once I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me
>> until I boarded the plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
>
> Once upon a time, I had my connecting flight home cancelled in MPLS,
> last flight of the day to Toontown.
>
> I ended up in line behind an arsehole who was blustering at the woman
> behind the desk... red-faced cursing, and I'm sure she was hit with
> spittle.
>
> When he finally stormed off, I walked up, smiled and said "Wow. You're
> having a worse night than I am, aren't you? What a jerk."
>
> She gave me the star treatment. Taxi chit instead of shuttle, hotel
> upgrade, seat upgrade on the flight the next morning, overnight kit,
> the works.
>
> Being polite to people who are trying to help you. What a concept...
Still, the bags of the fellow in front of you got a free trip to Luzon in
the Philippines.
"krw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
> either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also fall
> into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades just by
> being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone) situation. Once
> I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me until I boarded the
> plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
As a well seasoned, road warrior type of traveler, I will dispute this.
Most all of the folks like TSA or counter agents, etc. who have a job that
is "the pits", only do because of their own manner of dealing with people.
Over the top "factual" manners of dealing with people, "authoritative"
approaches for no good reason, military type of address and interaction,
etc. only serve to set the stage for responses from the public that are less
than congenial. Put on top of that a complete apathy for the public you're
dealing with, and compassion-less statements of policy, etc. and you've
created a pretty good basis for a bad interaction.
On the other hand, those representatives that actually understand that they
are dealing with people and the world does not really revolve around the
rule of large numbers, typically do not suffer the uncomfortable encounters
on a regular basis.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 12/24/2009 3:19 PM, krw wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:35:53 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 12/24/2009 7:15 AM, HeyBub wrote:
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> HeyBub wrote:
>>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor
>>>>> airport in Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also
>>>>> selected for "random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and
>>>>> a senior black male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than
>>>>> the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business."
>>>>>
>>>>> A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking
>>>>> for bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as
>>>>> what 'a terrorist looks like'! "
>>>>>
>>>>> "There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with
>>>>> names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
>>>>>
>>>>> She assented by silence.
>>>>
>>>> No, she recognized you for a damned fool.
>>>
>>> I'm the fool?
>>>
>>> In January of 2002, right after 9-11, at this same airport, a dude tried to
>>> sneak a weapon (a "Ninja Star") aboard a departing flight. After being
>>> vigorously interrogated, it was ascertained that this fellow was responsible
>>> for downing 34 aircraft with the loss of life of everybody aboard!
>>>
>>> The dude's name was Joe Foss.
>>>
>>> Foss was the former governor of South Dakota, brigadier general in the
>>> National Guard, commissioner of the American Football League, president of
>>> the National Rifle Association, and, for 24 years, the host of the TV
>>> program "The American Sportsman." He had just left a board of directors
>>> meeting of the NRA and was on his way to the U.S. Military Academy at West
>>> Point to deliver a guest lecture on patriotism.
>>>
>>> And the "Ninja Star" that got everybody so exercised?
>>>
>>> It was the Medal of Honor awarded him by Franklin Roosevelt for downing 23
>>> Japanese planes during the Battle of Guadacanal.
>>>
>>> When told that he could board the plane if his discarded this potential
>>> destructive device ("In the pot, pops"), Joe was reported to have said:
>>> "You've done fucked with the wrong Marine, sonny."
>>>
>>> I don't think it's foolish at all to hold up officious bureaucrats to the
>>> contempt and ridicule they deserve. Those TSA twerps picked four of us for
>>> "Additonal RANDOM screening." They selected me, a senior white male, a
>>> senior black male, a young Oriental woman, and a young Hispanic guy. If
>>> that's not fodder for ridicule, I can't imagine what is (I am surprised,
>>> however, that you didn't segue into wasp spray).
>>>
>>> 'Course I got an early start: I was picked by a diminutive TSA agentette.
>>> She tapped me on the shoulder and said: "Excuse me sir, can I get you to do
>>> me a big favor?"
>>>
>>> I looked down at her, shook my head, and said: "I'm sorry, I can't. I'm
>>> married."
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hence their unofficial name: The Department Of Homemade Security.
>>
>> There are many fine folks working in US intelligence, the military, and
>> related fields, but the TSA airport screeners appear largely to be a
>> full-employment program for idiots and losers. Then again, that's kind
>> of unfair. They have policy dictated to them by REAL losers and idiots:
>> The professional bureaucrats ("I'm a government employee because I can't
>> do any useful work.").
>>
>> So, I guess we should cut the airport folks some slack. Certainly in my
>> extensive travels, I do. The last time I got picked for "special"
>> screening, as the guy was patting me down, I said (in a very pleasant
>> voice), "Man that feels great, could you rub a little to the left,
>> my shoulder is aching." Then, a few moments later, "What time do you
>> get off work?" The other screener (a woman) was collapsed with laughter.
>> As I walked off she said, "Any time you're in Austin, please stop by and
>> see us, you're the most fun customer we ever had."
>>
>> A little humor goes a long way.
>
> I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
> either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also fall
> into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades just by
> being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone) situation. Once
> I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me until I boarded the
> plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
I have something north of a million miles in the air. It is my consistent
experience that 10% more patience and 10% more courtesy yield a 100%
better travel experience. And you're right, these people do have a
crummy job so being nasty to them is both mean and pointless (and
self defeating).
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:35:53 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 12/24/2009 7:15 AM, HeyBub wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> HeyBub wrote:
>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>>>>
>>>> I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor
>>>> airport in Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also
>>>> selected for "random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and
>>>> a senior black male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than
>>>> the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business."
>>>>
>>>> A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking
>>>> for bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as
>>>> what 'a terrorist looks like'! "
>>>>
>>>> "There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with
>>>> names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
>>>>
>>>> She assented by silence.
>>>
>>> No, she recognized you for a damned fool.
>>
>> I'm the fool?
>>
>> In January of 2002, right after 9-11, at this same airport, a dude tried to
>> sneak a weapon (a "Ninja Star") aboard a departing flight. After being
>> vigorously interrogated, it was ascertained that this fellow was responsible
>> for downing 34 aircraft with the loss of life of everybody aboard!
>>
>> The dude's name was Joe Foss.
>>
>> Foss was the former governor of South Dakota, brigadier general in the
>> National Guard, commissioner of the American Football League, president of
>> the National Rifle Association, and, for 24 years, the host of the TV
>> program "The American Sportsman." He had just left a board of directors
>> meeting of the NRA and was on his way to the U.S. Military Academy at West
>> Point to deliver a guest lecture on patriotism.
>>
>> And the "Ninja Star" that got everybody so exercised?
>>
>> It was the Medal of Honor awarded him by Franklin Roosevelt for downing 23
>> Japanese planes during the Battle of Guadacanal.
>>
>> When told that he could board the plane if his discarded this potential
>> destructive device ("In the pot, pops"), Joe was reported to have said:
>> "You've done fucked with the wrong Marine, sonny."
>>
>> I don't think it's foolish at all to hold up officious bureaucrats to the
>> contempt and ridicule they deserve. Those TSA twerps picked four of us for
>> "Additonal RANDOM screening." They selected me, a senior white male, a
>> senior black male, a young Oriental woman, and a young Hispanic guy. If
>> that's not fodder for ridicule, I can't imagine what is (I am surprised,
>> however, that you didn't segue into wasp spray).
>>
>> 'Course I got an early start: I was picked by a diminutive TSA agentette.
>> She tapped me on the shoulder and said: "Excuse me sir, can I get you to do
>> me a big favor?"
>>
>> I looked down at her, shook my head, and said: "I'm sorry, I can't. I'm
>> married."
>>
>>
>
>Hence their unofficial name: The Department Of Homemade Security.
>
>There are many fine folks working in US intelligence, the military, and
>related fields, but the TSA airport screeners appear largely to be a
>full-employment program for idiots and losers. Then again, that's kind
>of unfair. They have policy dictated to them by REAL losers and idiots:
>The professional bureaucrats ("I'm a government employee because I can't
>do any useful work.").
>
>So, I guess we should cut the airport folks some slack. Certainly in my
>extensive travels, I do. The last time I got picked for "special"
>screening, as the guy was patting me down, I said (in a very pleasant
>voice), "Man that feels great, could you rub a little to the left,
>my shoulder is aching." Then, a few moments later, "What time do you
>get off work?" The other screener (a woman) was collapsed with laughter.
>As I walked off she said, "Any time you're in Austin, please stop by and
>see us, you're the most fun customer we ever had."
>
>A little humor goes a long way.
I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also fall
into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades just by
being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone) situation. Once
I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me until I boarded the
plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:241220091824217870%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, krw
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
>> either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also fall
>> into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades just by
>> being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone) situation. Once
>> I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me until I boarded the
>> plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
>
> Once upon a time, I had my connecting flight home cancelled in MPLS,
> last flight of the day to Toontown.
>
> I ended up in line behind an arsehole who was blustering at the woman
> behind the desk... red-faced cursing, and I'm sure she was hit with
> spittle.
>
> When he finally stormed off, I walked up, smiled and said "Wow. You're
> having a worse night than I am, aren't you? What a jerk."
>
> She gave me the star treatment. Taxi chit instead of shuttle, hotel
> upgrade, seat upgrade on the flight the next morning, overnight kit,
> the works.
>
> Being polite to people who are trying to help you. What a concept...
Then there is a similar story - probably apocryphal - about the guy standing
behind the jerk ant the ticket agent smiling through the entire tirade. The
jerk storms off and the next passenger asks her how she can be so pleasant
and she says "Well, he's going to Miami but his luggage is going to Japan."
Anytime I get peeved I try to think about the possibility of my luggage
winding up in Japan ...
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "LDosser" wrote:
>> The jerk storms off and the next passenger asks her how she can be so
>> pleasant and she says "Well, he's going to Miami but his luggage is going
>> to Japan." Anytime I get peeved I try to think about the possibility of
>> my luggage winding up in Japan ...
> ====================================
> In the same vein, NEVER get on the wrong side of the wait staff of a
> restaurant where you are eating.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
Just the thought of it makes me cringe ...
But it's simple; just be courteous to everyone. If they don't respond
appropriately, go elsewhere.
I agree. I also was giving flights away left and right
so the points would not be lost.
I was in Bordeaux France when my wife in northern Ca. went
into the cardiac care unit.
I was on the next flight out - airline strike - I was put on
a flight to Switzerland on Swiss air. From there after a
wait for several hours - flew direct to L.A. and then up the
coast. The doctor said I was in worse shape as my wife was
never in danger once they figured what happened. He ordered
me home to get some sleep.
But that urgent change of flight was processed with high speed.
Martin
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 12/24/2009 3:19 PM, krw wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:35:53 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/24/2009 7:15 AM, HeyBub wrote:
>>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> HeyBub wrote:
>>>>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>>>>>>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>>>>>>> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>>>>>> I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor
>>>>>> airport in Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also
>>>>>> selected for "random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and
>>>>>> a senior black male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than
>>>>>> the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking
>>>>>> for bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as
>>>>>> what 'a terrorist looks like'! "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with
>>>>>> names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She assented by silence.
>>>>> No, she recognized you for a damned fool.
>>>> I'm the fool?
>>>>
>>>> In January of 2002, right after 9-11, at this same airport, a dude tried to
>>>> sneak a weapon (a "Ninja Star") aboard a departing flight. After being
>>>> vigorously interrogated, it was ascertained that this fellow was responsible
>>>> for downing 34 aircraft with the loss of life of everybody aboard!
>>>>
>>>> The dude's name was Joe Foss.
>>>>
>>>> Foss was the former governor of South Dakota, brigadier general in the
>>>> National Guard, commissioner of the American Football League, president of
>>>> the National Rifle Association, and, for 24 years, the host of the TV
>>>> program "The American Sportsman." He had just left a board of directors
>>>> meeting of the NRA and was on his way to the U.S. Military Academy at West
>>>> Point to deliver a guest lecture on patriotism.
>>>>
>>>> And the "Ninja Star" that got everybody so exercised?
>>>>
>>>> It was the Medal of Honor awarded him by Franklin Roosevelt for downing 23
>>>> Japanese planes during the Battle of Guadacanal.
>>>>
>>>> When told that he could board the plane if his discarded this potential
>>>> destructive device ("In the pot, pops"), Joe was reported to have said:
>>>> "You've done fucked with the wrong Marine, sonny."
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it's foolish at all to hold up officious bureaucrats to the
>>>> contempt and ridicule they deserve. Those TSA twerps picked four of us for
>>>> "Additonal RANDOM screening." They selected me, a senior white male, a
>>>> senior black male, a young Oriental woman, and a young Hispanic guy. If
>>>> that's not fodder for ridicule, I can't imagine what is (I am surprised,
>>>> however, that you didn't segue into wasp spray).
>>>>
>>>> 'Course I got an early start: I was picked by a diminutive TSA agentette.
>>>> She tapped me on the shoulder and said: "Excuse me sir, can I get you to do
>>>> me a big favor?"
>>>>
>>>> I looked down at her, shook my head, and said: "I'm sorry, I can't. I'm
>>>> married."
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hence their unofficial name: The Department Of Homemade Security.
>>>
>>> There are many fine folks working in US intelligence, the military, and
>>> related fields, but the TSA airport screeners appear largely to be a
>>> full-employment program for idiots and losers. Then again, that's kind
>>> of unfair. They have policy dictated to them by REAL losers and idiots:
>>> The professional bureaucrats ("I'm a government employee because I can't
>>> do any useful work.").
>>>
>>> So, I guess we should cut the airport folks some slack. Certainly in my
>>> extensive travels, I do. The last time I got picked for "special"
>>> screening, as the guy was patting me down, I said (in a very pleasant
>>> voice), "Man that feels great, could you rub a little to the left,
>>> my shoulder is aching." Then, a few moments later, "What time do you
>>> get off work?" The other screener (a woman) was collapsed with laughter.
>>> As I walked off she said, "Any time you're in Austin, please stop by and
>>> see us, you're the most fun customer we ever had."
>>>
>>> A little humor goes a long way.
>> I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
>> either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also fall
>> into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades just by
>> being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone) situation. Once
>> I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me until I boarded the
>> plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
>
> I have something north of a million miles in the air. It is my consistent
> experience that 10% more patience and 10% more courtesy yield a 100%
> better travel experience. And you're right, these people do have a
> crummy job so being nasty to them is both mean and pointless (and
> self defeating).
>
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:19:06 -0600, the infamous Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:32:15 -0800, Robatoy wrote:
>
>?????
>
>I posted some time back about occasionally seeing Robatoys posts as
>completely blank. We decided it was something about character sets,
>although I never did get the intermittent problem to go away.
>
>With this thread, and a couple previously, not only is his post blank,
>but so are all the responses! Strange indeed.
>
>I wonder if I can see this one?
I doubt it. I think your logic detector is out of order, as you
already believe in AGWK. (Anthropomorphic Global Warming, Kumbaya)
I had to remove my gmail filter to see them, too. It let some idiot
spammers back in, too, but I guess he's worth it. ;)
Murray Xmas.
--
REMEMBER: The sooner you fall behind,
the more time you'll have to catch up!
On 12/21/2009 4:14 PM, Angela Sekeris wrote:
> On Dec 20, 11:57 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>>
>>> And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
>>
>> --
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -
>> Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
>> PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> That pure racism.
<Sigh> It's pure humor.
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Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
On 12/24/2009 7:15 AM, HeyBub wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>>>>
>>>> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>>>
>>> I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor
>>> airport in Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also
>>> selected for "random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and
>>> a senior black male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than
>>> the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business."
>>>
>>> A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking
>>> for bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as
>>> what 'a terrorist looks like'! "
>>>
>>> "There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with
>>> names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
>>>
>>> She assented by silence.
>>
>> No, she recognized you for a damned fool.
>
> I'm the fool?
>
> In January of 2002, right after 9-11, at this same airport, a dude tried to
> sneak a weapon (a "Ninja Star") aboard a departing flight. After being
> vigorously interrogated, it was ascertained that this fellow was responsible
> for downing 34 aircraft with the loss of life of everybody aboard!
>
> The dude's name was Joe Foss.
>
> Foss was the former governor of South Dakota, brigadier general in the
> National Guard, commissioner of the American Football League, president of
> the National Rifle Association, and, for 24 years, the host of the TV
> program "The American Sportsman." He had just left a board of directors
> meeting of the NRA and was on his way to the U.S. Military Academy at West
> Point to deliver a guest lecture on patriotism.
>
> And the "Ninja Star" that got everybody so exercised?
>
> It was the Medal of Honor awarded him by Franklin Roosevelt for downing 23
> Japanese planes during the Battle of Guadacanal.
>
> When told that he could board the plane if his discarded this potential
> destructive device ("In the pot, pops"), Joe was reported to have said:
> "You've done fucked with the wrong Marine, sonny."
>
> I don't think it's foolish at all to hold up officious bureaucrats to the
> contempt and ridicule they deserve. Those TSA twerps picked four of us for
> "Additonal RANDOM screening." They selected me, a senior white male, a
> senior black male, a young Oriental woman, and a young Hispanic guy. If
> that's not fodder for ridicule, I can't imagine what is (I am surprised,
> however, that you didn't segue into wasp spray).
>
> 'Course I got an early start: I was picked by a diminutive TSA agentette.
> She tapped me on the shoulder and said: "Excuse me sir, can I get you to do
> me a big favor?"
>
> I looked down at her, shook my head, and said: "I'm sorry, I can't. I'm
> married."
>
>
Hence their unofficial name: The Department Of Homemade Security.
There are many fine folks working in US intelligence, the military, and
related fields, but the TSA airport screeners appear largely to be a
full-employment program for idiots and losers. Then again, that's kind
of unfair. They have policy dictated to them by REAL losers and idiots:
The professional bureaucrats ("I'm a government employee because I can't
do any useful work.").
So, I guess we should cut the airport folks some slack. Certainly in my
extensive travels, I do. The last time I got picked for "special"
screening, as the guy was patting me down, I said (in a very pleasant
voice), "Man that feels great, could you rub a little to the left,
my shoulder is aching." Then, a few moments later, "What time do you
get off work?" The other screener (a woman) was collapsed with laughter.
As I walked off she said, "Any time you're in Austin, please stop by and
see us, you're the most fun customer we ever had."
A little humor goes a long way.
--
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Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
Angela Sekeris wrote:
> On Dec 20, 11:57Â am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>>
>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
>>
>> --
>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> - Tim Daneliuk   [email protected]
>> PGP Key: Â Â Â Â http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> That pure racism.
Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
"krw" wrote:
> OTOH,
> Sears is still in business.
The guy who controls Sears as well as K-Mart is known as a liquidator
who acquires a company, then liquidates individual assets.
Sears biggest asset is property.
For years they've owned the majority of their stores.
If Sears doesn't survive, NBD for the majority stock owner, there is
still the property.
Lew
"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> krw wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:37:20 -0700, Mark & Juanita
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
> ... snip
>>>
>>> Being obnoxious to the people who enforce policy is pointless. They
>>> are
>>>just following orders that are set by someone else. It's the same as
>>>yelling at the sales droid or other front-line people. They don't make
>>>policy. Unfortunately, the powers that be know that and make the
>>>policymakers pretty darn hard to find -- *those* are the ones you to
>>>which
>>>your ire needs to be directed.
>>
>> No, it's not really all that hard. Stop spending money in places that
>> don't demonstrate that they want it.
>
> Definitely agree with that. However, when given shabby treatment, it is
> sometimes the principle of the thing where you want to get someone's
> attention besides just disappearing as a customer.
>
> BTW, same thing is true for outstanding service. There was a hotel in
> Huntsville in which the young lady who greeted our party made us feel like
> we were walking into her home. I was quite surprised when I filled out
> the
> standard survey with my comments regarding her outstanding service and
> actually got a phone call from the hotel manager regarding those comments.
>
>> They'll get the message. OTOH,
>> Sears is still in business.
>
> Yeah, go figure. Do they still pretend to do auto repair?>
> --
>
I needed a battery the other day and had a coupon. So I went to Sears for a
battery. It was a huge garage that used to employ 20 mechanics. There were
only three working there now.
The guy said that my right rear tire was about to die and I would have to
replace two tires. I took it to my tire guy and there was nothing wrong with
any of the tires.
I had them replace the windshield wipers. I got home and found a screwdriver
wedged in behind the wiper blade.
Does that answer your question?
krw wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:37:20 -0700, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
... snip
>>
>> Being obnoxious to the people who enforce policy is pointless. They are
>>just following orders that are set by someone else. It's the same as
>>yelling at the sales droid or other front-line people. They don't make
>>policy. Unfortunately, the powers that be know that and make the
>>policymakers pretty darn hard to find -- *those* are the ones you to which
>>your ire needs to be directed.
>
> No, it's not really all that hard. Stop spending money in places that
> don't demonstrate that they want it.
Definitely agree with that. However, when given shabby treatment, it is
sometimes the principle of the thing where you want to get someone's
attention besides just disappearing as a customer.
BTW, same thing is true for outstanding service. There was a hotel in
Huntsville in which the young lady who greeted our party made us feel like
we were walking into her home. I was quite surprised when I filled out the
standard survey with my comments regarding her outstanding service and
actually got a phone call from the hotel manager regarding those comments.
> They'll get the message. OTOH,
> Sears is still in business.
Yeah, go figure. Do they still pretend to do auto repair?
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> Definitely agree with that. However, when given shabby treatment,
> it is sometimes the principle of the thing where you want to get
> someone's attention besides just disappearing as a customer.
>
Sometimes you can fight back against shabby treatment. A few years ago I
went to a large department store to buy a bottle of perfume for my mother's
Christmas gift. I stood at the counter and presently a matronly lady
appeared.
"May I help you sir?" she asked.
"Yes," said I. "I'd like that bottle of perfume, 'Woman' by Jovan."
"No," said the clerk. "You want the one next to it, 'Man.' "
"No, really, I want the other one - 'Woman,' " I replied.
"Sir, trust me. They are completely different. It's 'Man' that you want."
"You're beginning to sound like my ex-wife. I really want the 'Woman'
bottle."
"Sir," said the saleslady, somewhat exasperated with a difficult customer, "
'Woman' is for a woman. 'Man' is for a man. You're a man, so you really want
'Man'!"
"Fact is," I countered, "I'm planning on having a sex change operation right
after the first of the year and I'm stocking up on all the gear."
"Eek!" [runs away]
Presently another lady appears, and, with squinty eyes, completes my
transaction.
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:24:21 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>, krw
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I have to agree. Their job is the pits and it's not going to help
>> either of us to make it worse. At an airport, ticket agents also fall
>> into this category. I've wangled many first class upgrades just by
>> being nice to the agents in a miserable (for everyone) situation. Once
>> I hadn't even realized the agent had upgraded me until I boarded the
>> plane (the upgrade was for the next leg).
>
>Once upon a time, I had my connecting flight home cancelled in MPLS,
>last flight of the day to Toontown.
>
>I ended up in line behind an arsehole who was blustering at the woman
>behind the desk... red-faced cursing, and I'm sure she was hit with
>spittle.
>
>When he finally stormed off, I walked up, smiled and said "Wow. You're
>having a worse night than I am, aren't you? What a jerk."
>
>She gave me the star treatment. Taxi chit instead of shuttle, hotel
>upgrade, seat upgrade on the flight the next morning, overnight kit,
>the works.
>
>Being polite to people who are trying to help you. What a concept...
OTOH, two years ago I was on a job interview trip to Des Moines. On
trip there was a big snowstorm about to hit NE Ohio and East. The
damned ticket agents lied to me in Des Moines and had me fly to
Milwaukee, my stopover to Cleveland. My flight was canceled after I'd
gotten to Milwaukee and they were *no* help in getting me further.
"Maybe Tuesday" (it was Saturday).
I ended up renting a car and driving the 450 miles. I would have been
much better off staying in (or driving from) Des Moines had they not
lied to me and told me the flight to CLE had been canceled. The
Cleveland airport was closed when I dropped off the rental that night.
I found out when I got home that the roads in the area were closed
too. I've driven in much worse and I did have 4WD (from the CLE
airport down to Akron) so it wasn't all that bad.
The tickets weren't refundable either, even though they didn't fly the
route. Oh well, the company I interviewed picked up the whole thing.
So much for the cookie airline.
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:37:20 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Tim Daneliuk wrote:
>
>> On 12/24/2009 3:19 PM, krw wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:35:53 -0600, Tim Daneliuk
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>... snip
>>
>> I have something north of a million miles in the air. It is my consistent
>> experience that 10% more patience and 10% more courtesy yield a 100%
>> better travel experience. And you're right, these people do have a
>> crummy job so being nasty to them is both mean and pointless (and
>> self defeating).
>>
>
> Being obnoxious to the people who enforce policy is pointless. They are
>just following orders that are set by someone else. It's the same as
>yelling at the sales droid or other front-line people. They don't make
>policy. Unfortunately, the powers that be know that and make the
>policymakers pretty darn hard to find -- *those* are the ones you to which
>your ire needs to be directed.
No, it's not really all that hard. Stop spending money in places that
don't demonstrate that they want it. They'll get the message. OTOH,
Sears is still in business.
Sometimes they simply liquidate for fast cash out for the next deal.
e.g. dump the company and sell the assets which are worth more than
the company by itself.
Martin
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "krw" wrote:
>
>> OTOH,
>> Sears is still in business.
>
> The guy who controls Sears as well as K-Mart is known as a liquidator
> who acquires a company, then liquidates individual assets.
>
> Sears biggest asset is property.
>
> For years they've owned the majority of their stores.
>
> If Sears doesn't survive, NBD for the majority stock owner, there is
> still the property.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
krw wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Angela Sekeris wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 20, 11:57ÃÂ am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
>>>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>>
>>>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>>>>
>>>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> - Tim Daneliuk ÃÂ ÃÂ [email protected]
>>>> PGP Key: ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>>>
>>> That pure racism.
>>
>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>
> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
Of course [head slap]. :-)
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
On Dec 21, 7:08=A0pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
>
>
>
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Angela Sekeris wrote:
>
> >> On Dec 20, 11:57=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> >>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> >>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS4uW2PT=
-190
>
> >>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3M7IR6jkpc
>
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUaxXhwxiaSI&feature=3Drelated
>
> >>> --
>
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-- -
> >>> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> >>> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> >> That pure racism.
>
> > =A0Really? =A0 ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>
> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
.... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
On Dec 20, 11:57=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS4uW2PT-190
>
> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3M7IR6jkpc
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUaxXhwxiaSI&feature=3Drelated
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-- -
> Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
That pure racism.
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Angela Sekeris wrote:
>
>> On Dec 20, 11:57Â am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
>>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>>
>>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>>>
>>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> - Tim Daneliuk   [email protected]
>>> PGP Key: Â Â Â Â http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>>
>> That pure racism.
>
> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
Robatoy wrote:
>>
>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>
>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>
> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor airport in
Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also selected for
"random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and a senior black
male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than the rest of us, so
ix-nay on any funny business."
A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking for
bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as what 'a
terrorist looks like'! "
"There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with names
like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
She assented by silence.
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:32:15 -0800, Robatoy wrote:
?????
I posted some time back about occasionally seeing Robatoys posts as
completely blank. We decided it was something about character sets,
although I never did get the intermittent problem to go away.
With this thread, and a couple previously, not only is his post blank,
but so are all the responses! Strange indeed.
I wonder if I can see this one?
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>> One of my favorite carols: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>> And mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
>
I like these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E-47VmFopE
animated version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZveAyEMWJ0&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28GUU1YbP_E
On Dec 23, 12:26=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 11:06=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 23, 12:01=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 23, 10:32=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 21, 7:08=A0pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
>
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >Angela Sekeris wrote:
>
> > > > > >> On Dec 20, 11:57=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wr=
ote:
> > > > > >>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > > > > >>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> > > > > >>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> > > > > >>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DS4uW2PT-190
>
> > > > > >>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3M7IR6jkpc
>
> > > > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUaxXhwxiaSI&feature=3Drelated
>
> > > > > >>> --
>
> > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------=
---------- -
> > > > > >>> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> > > > > >>> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> > > > > >> That pure racism.
>
> > > > > > =A0Really? =A0 ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>
> > > > > Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>
> > > > =A0.... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>
> > > I see your logic skills haven't improved any.
>
> > My bad. I meant to say that all Christians shoot and kill abortion
> > doctors.
>
> Same "logic". =A0Not surprising that you'd come up with something this
> stupid, though.
>
> > And I won't be discussing logic with someone who obviously doesn't
> > have a clue of what logic is.
>
> I'm sure you talk to yourself, but don't discuss logic. =A0The other guy
> won't understand.
oooooooweee...that was clever! One for the files so that I, when I
become worthy, I can use that rapier come-back of yours to skewer
someone.
Did I wish you a merry Christmas yet?
On Dec 23, 12:01=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 10:32=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 21, 7:08=A0pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
>
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >Angela Sekeris wrote:
>
> > > >> On Dec 20, 11:57=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > > >>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> > > >>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> > > >>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DS4u=
W2PT-190
>
> > > >>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3M7IR6jkpc
>
> > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUaxXhwxiaSI&feature=3Drelated
>
> > > >>> --
>
> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------=
------ -
> > > >>> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> > > >>> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> > > >> That pure racism.
>
> > > > =A0Really? =A0 ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>
> > > Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>
> > =A0.... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>
> I see your logic skills haven't improved any.
My bad. I meant to say that all Christians shoot and kill abortion
doctors.
And I won't be discussing logic with someone who obviously doesn't
have a clue of what logic is.
Merry Christmas!
On Dec 23, 12:23=A0pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Dec 23, 12:26=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 23, 11:06=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 23, 12:01=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrot=
e:
>
> > > > On Dec 23, 10:32=A0am, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Dec 21, 7:08=A0pm, krw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:05:38 -0700, Mark & Juanita
>
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >Angela Sekeris wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> On Dec 20, 11:57=A0am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> =
wrote:
> > > > > > >>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>> > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> > > > > > >>> > <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
> > > > > > >>> >> One of my favorite carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
=3DS4uW2PT-190
>
> > > > > > >>> > And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn3M7IR6jkpc
>
> > > > > > >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DUaxXhwxiaSI&feature=3Drelat=
ed
>
> > > > > > >>> --
>
> > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------=
------------ -
> > > > > > >>> - Tim Daneliuk =A0 =A0 [email protected]
> > > > > > >>> PGP Key: =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> > > > > > >> That pure racism.
>
> > > > > > > =A0Really? =A0 ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>
> > > > > > Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>
> > > > > =A0.... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>
> > > > I see your logic skills haven't improved any.
>
> > > My bad. I meant to say that all Christians shoot and kill abortion
> > > doctors.
>
> > Same "logic". =A0Not surprising that you'd come up with something this
> > stupid, though.
>
> > > And I won't be discussing logic with someone who obviously doesn't
> > > have a clue of what logic is.
>
> > I'm sure you talk to yourself, but don't discuss logic. =A0The other gu=
y
> > won't understand.
>
> oooooooweee...that was clever! One for the files so that I, when I
> become worthy, I can use that rapier come-back of yours to skewer
> someone.
The truth is not often sensational.
> Did I wish you a merry Christmas yet?
No.
On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>
>> One of my favorite carols: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>
> And mine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
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Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:32:15 -0800, Robatoy wrote:
>
> ?????
>
> I posted some time back about occasionally seeing Robatoys posts as
> completely blank. We decided it was something about character sets,
> although I never did get the intermittent problem to go away.
>
> With this thread, and a couple previously, not only is his post blank,
> but so are all the responses! Strange indeed.
>
> I wonder if I can see this one?
IIRC, he's on a Mac ... and I'm also fairly certain that it has to do
with character sets.
I always see his posts, but I also notice the posts of some who reply to
him don't show quotes, although you can be reasonably certain they are
attempting to quote.
This has been going on for some time, but I've never been bored enough
to go through message properties and try to suss it out. :)
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HeyBub wrote:
> Robatoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>>
>>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>>
>> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>
> I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor
> airport in Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also
> selected for "random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and
> a senior black male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than
> the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business."
>
> A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking
> for bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as
> what 'a terrorist looks like'! "
>
> "There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with
> names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
>
> She assented by silence.
No, she recognized you for a damned fool.
On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, jo4hn <[email protected]>
wrote:
>One of my favorite carols: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>
>Enjoy.
>
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
Hey, didn't you get the damn memo? Fer crap sakes, you're not suppose
to say "Christmas" anymore. From now on you're suppose to say
something like "Holiday" instead so you don't offend any of them
sensitive sons-of-bitches!
You can say "Chanukkah" or "Kwanza" or some shit like that cause that
only pisses off us Christians and we know nobody gives a damn about
what we think.
If you persist I will have to report you to the Politically Correct
Police. Don't think I won't you insensitive S.O.B.
Gordon Shumway
Our Constitution needs to be used less as a shield
for the guilty and more as a sword for the victim.
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:32:15 -0800, Robatoy wrote:
>
> ?????
>
> I posted some time back about occasionally seeing Robatoys posts as
> completely blank. We decided it was something about character sets,
> although I never did get the intermittent problem to go away.
>
> With this thread, and a couple previously, not only is his post
> blank, but so are all the responses! Strange indeed.
>
> I wonder if I can see this one?
I note you're using a newsreader with a vaguely French-sounding name.
Perhaps it surrendered?
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 08:32:15 -0800, Robatoy wrote:
>
> ?????
>
> I posted some time back about occasionally seeing Robatoys posts as
> completely blank. We decided it was something about character sets,
> although I never did get the intermittent problem to go away.
>
> With this thread, and a couple previously, not only is his post blank,
> but so are all the responses! Strange indeed.
>
> I wonder if I can see this one?
>
Since re-building my system and dropping the gmail filter I see his posts.
What I don't see are the "from:" lines for Larry Jacques and CW Maggers.
It appears that they each do weird things in their e-mail addresses: LJ has
di\ / ersify .com and CW has @name..domain as from addresses. This
apparently freaks the newer version of Knode out and it just shows blanks
for the From: line
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Rob Leatham
J. Clarke wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>>>
>>>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>>>
>>> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>>
>> I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor
>> airport in Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also
>> selected for "random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and
>> a senior black male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than
>> the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business."
>>
>> A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking
>> for bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as
>> what 'a terrorist looks like'! "
>>
>> "There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with
>> names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
>>
>> She assented by silence.
>
> No, she recognized you for a damned fool.
I'm the fool?
In January of 2002, right after 9-11, at this same airport, a dude tried to
sneak a weapon (a "Ninja Star") aboard a departing flight. After being
vigorously interrogated, it was ascertained that this fellow was responsible
for downing 34 aircraft with the loss of life of everybody aboard!
The dude's name was Joe Foss.
Foss was the former governor of South Dakota, brigadier general in the
National Guard, commissioner of the American Football League, president of
the National Rifle Association, and, for 24 years, the host of the TV
program "The American Sportsman." He had just left a board of directors
meeting of the NRA and was on his way to the U.S. Military Academy at West
Point to deliver a guest lecture on patriotism.
And the "Ninja Star" that got everybody so exercised?
It was the Medal of Honor awarded him by Franklin Roosevelt for downing 23
Japanese planes during the Battle of Guadacanal.
When told that he could board the plane if his discarded this potential
destructive device ("In the pot, pops"), Joe was reported to have said:
"You've done fucked with the wrong Marine, sonny."
I don't think it's foolish at all to hold up officious bureaucrats to the
contempt and ridicule they deserve. Those TSA twerps picked four of us for
"Additonal RANDOM screening." They selected me, a senior white male, a
senior black male, a young Oriental woman, and a young Hispanic guy. If
that's not fodder for ridicule, I can't imagine what is (I am surprised,
however, that you didn't segue into wasp spray).
'Course I got an early start: I was picked by a diminutive TSA agentette.
She tapped me on the shoulder and said: "Excuse me sir, can I get you to do
me a big favor?"
I looked down at her, shook my head, and said: "I'm sorry, I can't. I'm
married."
Good report. As I recall the agent was a foreign national.
I used San Jose airport for some time after that and constant
wonder how foreigners were protecting us better than ourselves.
One of my friends who was discarded from useful employment
was there - she said it was getting sketchy to find a job (tell me)
and she saw the add in the news paper - called and wham got the job.
I really don't think airports are better than before.
Martin
HeyBub wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>> Robatoy wrote:
>>>>>> Really? ... and what race is being denigrated here?
>>>>> Why the Muslim Terrorist race, of course.
>>>> .... and that's because all Muslims are terrorists, right?
>>> I was selected for additional "random" screening at Sky Harbor
>>> airport in Phoenix. I said to the young Hispanic fellow, who was also
>>> selected for "random" screening (along with a young Oriental girl and
>>> a senior black male): "You know, you look more like a terrorist than
>>> the rest of us, so ix-nay on any funny business."
>>>
>>> A TSA agent looked up from the computer she was inspecting (looking
>>> for bomb-making recipes) and admonished me: "There's no such thing as
>>> what 'a terrorist looks like'! "
>>>
>>> "There damn sure is," I shot back. "They're middle-eastern males with
>>> names like Achmed al-BoomBoom. Didn't you get the memo."
>>>
>>> She assented by silence.
>> No, she recognized you for a damned fool.
>
> I'm the fool?
>
> In January of 2002, right after 9-11, at this same airport, a dude tried to
> sneak a weapon (a "Ninja Star") aboard a departing flight. After being
> vigorously interrogated, it was ascertained that this fellow was responsible
> for downing 34 aircraft with the loss of life of everybody aboard!
>
> The dude's name was Joe Foss.
>
> Foss was the former governor of South Dakota, brigadier general in the
> National Guard, commissioner of the American Football League, president of
> the National Rifle Association, and, for 24 years, the host of the TV
> program "The American Sportsman." He had just left a board of directors
> meeting of the NRA and was on his way to the U.S. Military Academy at West
> Point to deliver a guest lecture on patriotism.
>
> And the "Ninja Star" that got everybody so exercised?
>
> It was the Medal of Honor awarded him by Franklin Roosevelt for downing 23
> Japanese planes during the Battle of Guadacanal.
>
> When told that he could board the plane if his discarded this potential
> destructive device ("In the pot, pops"), Joe was reported to have said:
> "You've done fucked with the wrong Marine, sonny."
>
> I don't think it's foolish at all to hold up officious bureaucrats to the
> contempt and ridicule they deserve. Those TSA twerps picked four of us for
> "Additonal RANDOM screening." They selected me, a senior white male, a
> senior black male, a young Oriental woman, and a young Hispanic guy. If
> that's not fodder for ridicule, I can't imagine what is (I am surprised,
> however, that you didn't segue into wasp spray).
>
> 'Course I got an early start: I was picked by a diminutive TSA agentette.
> She tapped me on the shoulder and said: "Excuse me sir, can I get you to do
> me a big favor?"
>
> I looked down at her, shook my head, and said: "I'm sorry, I can't. I'm
> married."
>
>
In news:82ecdb90-c81f-412b-b321-8733ff057da7@b32g2000yqd.googlegroups.com,
Angela Sekeris <[email protected]>spewed forth:
> On Dec 20, 11:57 am, Tim Daneliuk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 12/20/2009 10:23 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 07:59:26 -0800, the infamous jo4hn
>>> <[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>>
>>>> One of my favorite
>>>> carols:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uW2PT-190
>>
>>> And mine:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3M7IR6jkpc
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaxXhwxiaSI&feature=related
>>
>> --
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> - Tim Daneliuk [email protected]
>> PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
>
> That pure racism.
No this is racist<VEG>
Night afo' Crizzmus
Wus da night afo' Crizzmus, and all thru da hood,
everybody be sleepin' and da sleepin' be good.
We hunged up our stockins, an hoped like all heck,
dat Obama gunna brang us our checks.
All of da family, was layin' on da flo',
my sister wif her gurlfriend, my brother wif some ho.
Ashtrays was all full, empty beer cans and all
when I heared such a fuss, I thunk...."Sh'eet, must be da law".
I pulled the sheet off da window and what I'ze could see,
I was spectin' the sherrif, wif a warrent fo' me.
But what did I see, made me say, "Lawd look 'a dat!"
Dere was a huge watermelon, pulled by eight big-ass rats.
Now ovah da years, Santy Claws he be white,
but it looks like us brotha's, got a black un' tonight.
Faster than a poe'lice car, my homeboy he came,
and whupped up on dem rats, as he called dem by name.
On Biden, On Jessie, On Pelosi and Hillary Who,
On Fannie, On Freddie, On Ayers, and Slick Willy too.
Obama landed dat melon, right there in da street,
I knowed it fo' sho', - can you believe that Sheet?
Dat Santy didn't need no chimley, he picked da lock on my do',
an I sez to myself, "Son o' bitch..he don did dis befo!"
He had a big bag, full of presents - at first I suspeck?
Wif "Air Jordans" and fake gold, to wear roun' my neck.
But he left me no presents, just started stealin my shit.
He got my guns and my crack, and my new burglers kit.
Den, wif my shit in his bag, out da windo' he flew,
I sho' woulda shanked him, but he snagged my blade too!
He jumped back on dat melon, wif out even a hitch,
and waz gone in two seconds, da democrat sonofabitch.
So nex year I be hopin', a white Santy we git,
'cause a black Santy Claws, just ain't worf a shit!
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