bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x 24".
Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much off?
I never saw any foreign material in the wood
Mel,
that is a very cool planer. I just got back from the San Mateo WW show
where I had the DeWalt guy put it through it's paces. Then he showed me
the unit that is prepped for showing off how easy it is to get to the
blades. Wow! Here I sit with my old 733. sigh...but then I realize
that SWMBO whipped out her credit card for an Accuspray 4 stager and on
the way out we spotted a new Powermatic band saw. But alas, I came home
empty handed, as the sprayer will get to me around Thursday (or so they
say) and the BS I should be able to pick up Monday in town.
Congrats on that planer! Wish mine would break so I'd HAVE to get the
new one. It doesn't seem to produce any noticeable snipe either, which
is something I always consider when shopping for a planer. Nice!
dave
mel wrote:
> bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
> to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
> pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x 24".
> Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
> expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much off?
> I never saw any foreign material in the wood
>
>
"mel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
> to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
> pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x
24".
> Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
> expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much
off?
> I never saw any foreign material in the wood
===========================
Well my DeWalt is pushing 5 years old and honestly I am only on the 3rd or
4th set of knives and have planed 1000's of BF of walnut and cherry... along
with plenty of poplar....and I replaced them because they were dulling NOT
because of knicks....
What ever a half turn on the crank works out to it normally what I take off
in a single pass...I'm retired and am not in a rush! lol
Bob Griffiths
Kinda like owning a new car - then someone nicks the door paint in the
parking lot and the honeymoon is over...
The planer is not a finishing tool, that's the job for scrapers and
sandpaper.
So yes, you can expect exactly what you're seeing. I believe yours uses the
disposable blades so you won't have the opportunity to put a secondary bevel
on them during sharpening. I do on mine and it "appears" to make a
difference in that the blades don't get nicked so deeply as compared to when
they are sharpened only with a primary bevel.
Be interesting to find out if anyone has had any luck in trying to sharpen
disposable type blades and how did they turn out?
Bob S.
"mel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
> to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
> pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x
24".
> Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
> expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much
off?
> I never saw any foreign material in the wood
>
>
he can offset those blades. you can't on the 733
Bob S. wrote:
> Kinda like owning a new car - then someone nicks the door paint in the
> parking lot and the honeymoon is over...
>
> The planer is not a finishing tool, that's the job for scrapers and
> sandpaper.
>
> So yes, you can expect exactly what you're seeing. I believe yours uses the
> disposable blades so you won't have the opportunity to put a secondary bevel
> on them during sharpening. I do on mine and it "appears" to make a
> difference in that the blades don't get nicked so deeply as compared to when
> they are sharpened only with a primary bevel.
>
> Be interesting to find out if anyone has had any luck in trying to sharpen
> disposable type blades and how did they turn out?
>
> Bob S.
>
> "mel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
>>to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
>>pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x
>
> 24".
>
>>Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
>>expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much
>
> off?
>
>>I never saw any foreign material in the wood
>>
>>
>
>
>
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:46:51 GMT, "mel"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
>to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
>pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x 24".
Feed rates seem reasonable and the knives should be barely warmed up
by now.
>Knives are already knicked in several places.
Nicks or wear ? You shouldn't have either, but I'd be more worried
about wear.
Planer knives should never get nicked, but if they do it's as likely
to happen on the first board as the last. Sounds like your boards
were dirty. How had they been stacked ? Had they ever dragged across
the workshop floor ? Did you sweep them clean before planing ? All
this stuff is important, not for the timber, but for the knives.
BTW - a card scraper will remove most planer nick marks in moments.
--
Die Gotterspammerung - Junkmail of the Gods
In article <[email protected]>, "mel" <remove nospam when replying> wrote:
>bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
>to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
>pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x 24".
>Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
>expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much off?
>I never saw any foreign material in the wood
>
That's a heavier cut than I prefer, but it shouldn't cause nicks in the knives
that soon. The most likely cause in my opinion is foreign matter that you did
not observe or did not recognize as such -- specifically, ordinary dirt. It's
never a bad idea to vacuum rough-sawn boards before planing or jointing them.
This can also be caused by knots in the wood. But I think dirt is the culprit.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)
I come out of the metal working industry and I just aquired a JD Wallace 4" planer (I think it's a 1930's model) from my
dad's estate. I've been cleaning it up and getting it back up to working condition. I had made him some O-1 TS blades,
hardened and drawn to Rockwell C 55 or so. I ground the blades with a 43 degree included angle with .015 margin. It never
has cut right. slowing the 1/4 HP motor way down and the blades are nicked to beat the band. Could someone provide the
correct margin, land width and relief angle to grind the blades. The spindle is roughly 2" diameter and spinning @ 3450 RPM.
R. Wink
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 21:46:51 GMT, "mel" <[email protected]> wrote:
>bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
>to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
>pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x 24".
>Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
>expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much off?
>I never saw any foreign material in the wood
>
Normal wear. The nicks will show up as ridges that will be taken out when
you sand or scrape the final surface.
Your planer is a "Thickness Planer" not a finish planer. Although there is
a slower speed for a finer finish, that is only a sales gimmick and as you
have already found out really accomplishes nothing once you get the first
nick. You still must sand or scrape the final surface. The slower speeds
are good on larger "Fast" planers that leave very noticeable scallop marks
as they hog of the wood and then the slower speed to smooth out the surface
on a final pass. This finish is also by no means the final surface. The
small portable planers plane slow and smooth enough on the fast setting.
IMHO the slower speeds only waste time. Use the planer for thicknessing not
for a final finish surface.
"mel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
> to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
> pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x
24".
> Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
> expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much
off?
> I never saw any foreign material in the wood
>
>
"mel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> bought the dewalt 735 10 days ago. I've sized approx. 6 bf 5/4 hard maple
> to 1" and 6 bf 4/4 walnut to 3/4" at a scant 1/32" to a heavy 1/64" per
> pass. All in all approximately 130 passes on 8 boards say approx. 6" x
24".
> Knives are already knicked in several places. Is this sort of wear to be
> expected on high speed steel knives? Am I rushing it by taking too much
off?
> I never saw any foreign material in the wood
>
>
It is amazing how little it takes to nick a blade. A staple, like a desk
staple can leave a good sized nick. If boards are left laying on a concrete
floor, grit from the floor will make lots of nicks, if there is any grit at
all. Dirt, from boards outside will dull and possibly nick blades. If the
wood was milled from a yard or farm, there can be metal grown in the wood
that you never will see.
Find a local mom and pop type lumberyard, and they might have someone who
picks up blades and sharpens them cheap. Then be more careful. They had to
have been hit by something to get nicked.
One trick is to offset the blades from their original position, so the nick
in one blade gets mostly taken out by the next blade being moved over some.
--
Jim in NC