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Puckdropper

24/12/2008 7:27 AM

Dust Collection Set up

I'm getting excited, we're almost to the point where I can set up a shop in
the former warehouse (aka garage). By summer, I ought to have enough set
up to use the table saw indoors!

So, I'm thinking about dust collection systems. It seems to me the usual
set up around here is a single collector (with some kind of cyclone) that
runs to several tools. How is collection for a table saw be handled? I'm
not a big fan of tripping over a hose while trying to cut plywood down to
size.

Does anyone bother with dust collection for a drill press?

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Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

25/12/2008 4:23 PM

marc rosen <[email protected]> wrote in
news:ce14fa75-d09e-4443-9bea-1f749ef743f9@v31g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 24, 2:27 am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>> I'm getting excited, we're almost to the point where I can set up a
>> shop
> in
>> the former warehouse (aka garage).  By summer, I ought to have enough
>> s
> et
>> up to use the table saw indoors!
>>
>> So, I'm thinking about dust collection systems.  It seems to me the
>> usu
> al
>> set up around here is a single collector (with some kind of cyclone)
>> that runs to several tools.  How is collection for a table saw be
>> handled?
>  I'm
>> not a big fan of tripping over a hose while trying to cut plywood
>> down to size.
>>
>> Does anyone bother with dust collection for a drill press?
>>
>> Puckdropper
> Hey PD,
> I dropped a flex hose down from the ceiling in a place outside the
> range of any sheet of plywood that would pass over the saw table. I
> used a quick disconnect in the rare instances that I had to remove the
> hose to position a board on the table. As for the drill press, I had
> previously used my DC with a nozzle on the hose for most chip
> collection but now I have a remote actuated vacuum (Festool) that goes
> on with the drill press and the hose is small enough that it does not
> get in the way. It is a lot easier to make set ups without having the
> DC running all of the time, and unlike my larger tools, the power
> switch for my DC is not loacted near the drill press.
> Wishing you quick success with getting that shop running.
>
> Marc
> (And wishing all of you a Mrry Christmas too!!!!!)

That sounds like a good way to start. Maybe I'll run power to the TS the
same way. If I miss the hose, I'll certainly miss the power cord.

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Puckdropper

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

25/12/2008 4:25 PM

"DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> This system can be attached to a shop vac and wheeled around from tool
> to tool. The hose can be bent to where you need it and stays in place
> on its own so it doesn't need to be attached to the machine or
> otherwise held in place. There's a photo in LV's fall '08 flyer that
> shows the system attached to a shop vac.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=58751&cat=1,42401&ap=1

I've done something similar with a clamp. It works ok until I hit the hose
and knock things loose.

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coloradotrout

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

24/12/2008 9:50 AM

On Dec 24, 11:27=A0am, "DGDevin" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Puckdropper wrote:
> > I'm getting excited, we're almost to the point where I can set up a
> > shop in the former warehouse (aka garage). =A0By summer, I ought to
> > have enough set up to use the table saw indoors!
>
> > So, I'm thinking about dust collection systems. =A0It seems to me the
> > usual set up around here is a single collector (with some kind of
> > cyclone) that runs to several tools. =A0How is collection for a table
> > saw be handled? =A0I'm not a big fan of tripping over a hose while
> > trying to cut plywood down to size.
>
> > Does anyone bother with dust collection for a drill press?
>
> > Puckdropper
>
> This system can be attached to a shop vac and wheeled around from tool to
> tool. =A0The hose can be bent to where you need it and stays in place on =
its
> own so it doesn't need to be attached to the machine or otherwise held in
> place. =A0There's a photo in LV's fall '08 flyer that shows the system
> attached to a shop vac.
>
> http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=3D2&p=3D58751&cat=3D1,42401&ap=
=3D1

If you are really serious about DC, go here:
http://billpentz.com/woodworking/Cyclone/Index.cfm

In a nutshell..

6" lines to every tool - sewer and drain pipe is good alternative to
high cost spiral metal.
A cyclone of Bill's or equivalent design (apparently there a quite a
few cyclones that dont really work)


I ended up pretty much arranging my tools to accomodate dust
collection. I have my TS, jointer, BS right next to each other. My
jet cabinet saw is proving to be my biggest challenge (as will any
compound miter saw be). I need to collect at the base and above the
blade. They make nice fixtures for above the blade at about 1/3 the
cost of the entire saw! I'm too cheap for that right now.

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

24/12/2008 8:45 AM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> runs to several tools. How is collection for a table saw be handled? I'm
> not a big fan of tripping over a hose while trying to cut plywood down to
> size.

I suspect many people run the hose along the upper corners of the workshop
and then bring the hose across the ceiling down to the machine in question.


BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

24/12/2008 12:54 PM

Puckdropper wrote:
>
> So, I'm thinking about dust collection systems. It seems to me the usual
> set up around here is a single collector (with some kind of cyclone) that
> runs to several tools. How is collection for a table saw be handled? I'm
> not a big fan of tripping over a hose while trying to cut plywood down to
> size.

I have a drop that connects to the standard saw outlet and a shop-made
overarm collector. I still miss SOME dust, but I get enough.


> Does anyone bother with dust collection for a drill press?

I do with Forstner bits, sanding, or long production runs, but not for
just a few holes. I have a quick connect on the 12" disc next to my DP.
The outside of the QC is velcro wrapped, and the DP table has matching
velcro. That drop uses an aluminum dryer hose that nearly stays in
place on it's own.

Dd

"DGDevin"

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

24/12/2008 9:27 AM

Puckdropper wrote:

> I'm getting excited, we're almost to the point where I can set up a
> shop in the former warehouse (aka garage). By summer, I ought to
> have enough set up to use the table saw indoors!
>
> So, I'm thinking about dust collection systems. It seems to me the
> usual set up around here is a single collector (with some kind of
> cyclone) that runs to several tools. How is collection for a table
> saw be handled? I'm not a big fan of tripping over a hose while
> trying to cut plywood down to size.
>
> Does anyone bother with dust collection for a drill press?
>
> Puckdropper

This system can be attached to a shop vac and wheeled around from tool to
tool. The hose can be bent to where you need it and stays in place on its
own so it doesn't need to be attached to the machine or otherwise held in
place. There's a photo in LV's fall '08 flyer that shows the system
attached to a shop vac.

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=58751&cat=1,42401&ap=1

mr

marc rosen

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

24/12/2008 5:25 AM

On Dec 24, 2:27=A0am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> I'm getting excited, we're almost to the point where I can set up a shop =
in
> the former warehouse (aka garage). =A0By summer, I ought to have enough s=
et
> up to use the table saw indoors!
>
> So, I'm thinking about dust collection systems. =A0It seems to me the usu=
al
> set up around here is a single collector (with some kind of cyclone) that
> runs to several tools. =A0How is collection for a table saw be handled? =
=A0I'm
> not a big fan of tripping over a hose while trying to cut plywood down to
> size.
>
> Does anyone bother with dust collection for a drill press?
>
> Puckdropper
Hey PD,
I dropped a flex hose down from the ceiling in a place outside the
range of any sheet of plywood that would pass over the saw table. I
used a quick disconnect in the rare instances that I had to remove the
hose to position a board on the table. As for the drill press, I had
previously used my DC with a nozzle on the hose for most chip
collection but now I have a remote actuated vacuum (Festool) that goes
on with the drill press and the hose is small enough that it does not
get in the way. It is a lot easier to make set ups without having the
DC running all of the time, and unlike my larger tools, the power
switch for my DC is not loacted near the drill press.
Wishing you quick success with getting that shop running.
=20
Marc
(And wishing all of you a Mrry Christmas too!!!!!)

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

29/12/2008 2:08 PM

Pat Barber wrote:
> Take a look at this Barry:
>
> http://www.ptreeusa.com/dusthose.htm
>
> Scroll down to "Stay Put Hose" ....neat and "fairly" cheap.
>

Saw that at the woodworking show. Worked great.


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B A R R Y

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

24/12/2008 12:56 PM

marc rosen wrote:
>> DC running all of the time, and unlike my larger tools, the power
> switch for my DC is not loacted near the drill press.

Repeat after me...

"A Long Ranger remote is a fantastic value!"

I had to live without the remote for a month. It was a real drag...

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

29/12/2008 3:37 PM

Pat Barber wrote:
> Take a look at this Barry:
>
> http://www.ptreeusa.com/dusthose.htm
>
> Scroll down to "Stay Put Hose" ....neat and "fairly" cheap


Thanks for the tip! I'll keep it in mind for when my dryer duct needs
replacing.

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Puckdropper on 24/12/2008 7:27 AM

29/12/2008 6:40 PM

Take a look at this Barry:

http://www.ptreeusa.com/dusthose.htm

Scroll down to "Stay Put Hose" ....neat and "fairly" cheap.


B A R R Y wrote:

>> Does anyone bother with dust collection for a drill press?
>
> I do with Forstner bits, sanding, or long production runs, but not for
> just a few holes. I have a quick connect on the 12" disc next to my DP.
> The outside of the QC is velcro wrapped, and the DP table has matching
> velcro. That drop uses an aluminum dryer hose that nearly stays in
> place on it's own.


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