Gotta love this guy's style:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3146042998>
And in order to thank him, you can purchase a certificate of liquid
appreciation; any proceeds beyond what can be spent for beer will go
towards more power tools:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2960761236>
Kevin
Hyde wrote:
> nothing, especially for someone who lived with a collector for years
> and purchased some of them himself. The whole story sounds like
> something thought up at the nearest bar stool. I'm not saying the guy
> is guilty, but I smell a rat.
Nah. I live with a Barbie collector. I've bought some of the damned stupid
things, but I know practically nothing about them, and don't care to learn
more.
* they're TOYS
* you can NEVER let a child PLAY with them
* people with more money than sense will possibly pay big money for the
damned stupid things some day if the damned stupid things you happen to
have are in some way rare or something
I can definitely see where that guy is coming from, and I don't smell a rat.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
In article <[email protected]>, Lazarus Long
<[email protected]> wrote:
> This link was posted a couple of days ago, but it still brings a smile
> to my face.
Sorry, I must have missed it. I read the wreck by scrolling through
the subject list and deleting 90% of the troll-spew and old threads
that have drifted off topic.
Kevin
In article <[email protected]>, Hyde
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I emailed the winner of that auction just out of curiosity because I
> saw no feedback on the sale. Turns out many of them were indeed
> counterfeits.
How did that "turn out"? Did the buyer inform him that there were
fakes?
Kevin
"Kevin Craig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:271020031930273304%[email protected]...
> And in order to thank him, you can purchase a certificate of liquid
> appreciation; any proceeds beyond what can be spent for beer will go
> towards more power tools:
>
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2960761236>
>
> Kevin
He must be related to the inventor of the pet rock. Sheesh.
Hyde wrote:
> Until they are yours and suddenly you realize you might have a few
> nice tools out of the deal.
>
> No , huh ?
Nah. There aren't any roads to my having sole ownership of the Barbie
collection worth thinking on.
> Hmm, you seem to get the point, they might be rare, why bother
> learning then ehh ?
Just not my thing. I hate to sell anything anyway. When I want to sell
something, I always price it so low that the other party just grins and
hands me the cash. That way I don't have to piss around.
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Mark Jerde wrote:
>> I can definitely see where that guy is coming from, and I don't smell
>> a rat.
>
> Yeah, & flip it around. SWMBO would be hard pressed to give a standard
> name for many of my tools.
I'm not trying to sell any of them on eBay for 500% market value either
though. :)
I'm a tool collector, but I only collect tools that I intend to *use*.
Collecting stuff just to collect it is silly IMHO. I even ripped open all
the NIB Star Wars stuff I bought a bit back on a whim and let my kids
*play* with it. They even *broke* some of it. The collectors in the
audience are choking and turning blue in the face, but what the hell. What
good are toys (or tools) if you don't play with them?
IMHO of course. It's your money, so do what you want. (I mean "you" in
general, not "you" specifically Mark. I'm not ranting at anyone or
criticizing anyone's choices. Just saying what's the right way to go for
*me* alone.)
--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan <[email protected]>
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
Silvan writes:
>
>I'm not trying to sell any of them on eBay for 500% market value either
>though. :)
Nor was he. He was looking for a decent price. There is no forcing a buyer to
keep bidding at an auction: I wanted a Stanley #71, and bid it up to my
personal stop, at which point someone else "won" the auction. Life's like that,
but it really isn't as if someone is holding a gun to anyone's head.
Personally, we've got a couple beanie babies, and a couple of Jerry Falwell's
nemises, Teletubbies. The dog enjoys hell out of them.
Charlie Self
"Ain't no man can avoid being born average, but there ain't no man got to be
common." Satchel Paige
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:06:55 -0800, Fly-by-Night CC
<[email protected]> wrote :
>Counerfeit perhaps, but that's not to say he was untruthful in the
>auction statement - his ex could have been the one taken by the original
>seller(s).
I agree, but ask yourself this, if you found a box of Beanies (and how
many of us really *don't* know they are a serious collectable or know
that "retireds" are worth quite a bit), you are a long term seller on
Ebay ( 500+), you are informed by others that some are worth a lot of
money, wouldn't it be common sense and worth your time to do a little
research on at least the value of what you are going to sell. I can't
speak for this guy, but I do sell on Ebay and I'd never list anything
with the knowledge (before hand or during auction) that some might be
fakes and take someone for their hard earned money. It got listed with
the knowledge that someone out there would buy for sure. Like I said,
caveat emptor, but I think he tried a little too hard to prove he knew
nothing, especially for someone who lived with a collector for years
and purchased some of them himself. The whole story sounds like
something thought up at the nearest bar stool. I'm not saying the guy
is guilty, but I smell a rat.
>He stated a number of times he made no guarantees of any sort.
Perhaps, but Ebays own policies on that matter are clear....
Authenticity Disclaimers
Sellers may not disclaim knowledge of, or responsibility for, the
authenticity or legality of the items offered in their listings.
Sellers should take steps to satisfy themselves that their items are
authentic before listing them on eBay. If you cannot verify the
authenticity of an item, do not list it.
The following examples violate eBay's Authenticity Disclaimer Policy:
"I cannot guarantee the authenticity of this item, so please bid
accordingly."
"Vintage Handbag Chanel???"
Warning:
The repeated use of authenticity disclaimers could result in the
ending of your listings and possible suspension from eBay.
This link was posted a couple of days ago, but it still brings a smile
to my face.
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:29:50 GMT, Kevin Craig <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Gotta love this guy's style:
>
><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3146042998>
>
>And in order to thank him, you can purchase a certificate of liquid
>appreciation; any proceeds beyond what can be spent for beer will go
>towards more power tools:
>
><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2960761236>
>
>Kevin
Silvan wrote:
> Nah. I live with a Barbie collector. I've bought some of the damned
> stupid things, but I know practically nothing about them, and don't
> care to learn more.
>
> * they're TOYS
> * you can NEVER let a child PLAY with them
> * people with more money than sense will possibly pay big money for
> the damned stupid things some day if the damned stupid things you
> happen to have are in some way rare or something
>
> I can definitely see where that guy is coming from, and I don't smell
> a rat.
Yeah, & flip it around. SWMBO would be hard pressed to give a standard name
for many of my tools.
-- Mark
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 05:04:57 GMT, Hyde <[email protected]> wrote :
>On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:00:24 -0500, Roy Smith <[email protected]> wrote :
>
>>Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I can't
>>> speak for this guy, but I do sell on Ebay and I'd never list anything
>>> with the knowledge (before hand or during auction) that some might be
>>> fakes and take someone for their hard earned money.
>>
>>You're only "taking" people if you claim that they are not fakes.
>
>So it's ok to know or suspect they might be and claim ignorance ?
>I'm not saying that the case here, just a supposition. In my book
>that's taking people, and all I can say is that I am proud of my own
>honor.
>
>>
>>Lots of stuff is sold with a "no claims made, as is, where is, buyer
>>assumes all risks" basis. As long as the seller isn't intentionally
>>hiding anything, and the buy understands the risk he's taking, there's
>>no deceit involved.
>
>
>Agreed, but how are you to know the buyer isn't hiding anything ?
<yawn> Make that "seller", I'm too tired ...... ZZzzzzz ....
>That's exactly the reason Ebay instituted the policy you omitted from
>your reply. Like I said, I'm not saying the guy is guilty, but for
>someone that experienced at selling online, ex wife owned a 1000 and
>selling a known collectable it still seems fishy to me.
>
>
>Back to the wood .....
>
>
>Hyde
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:11:59 -0500, Silvan
<[email protected]> wrote :
>Hyde wrote:
>
>> nothing, especially for someone who lived with a collector for years
>> and purchased some of them himself. The whole story sounds like
>> something thought up at the nearest bar stool. I'm not saying the guy
>> is guilty, but I smell a rat.
>
>Nah. I live with a Barbie collector. I've bought some of the damned stupid
>things, but I know practically nothing about them, and don't care to learn
>more.
Until they are yours and suddenly you realize you might have a few
nice tools out of the deal.
No , huh ?
>
>* they're TOYS
>* you can NEVER let a child PLAY with them
>* people with more money than sense will possibly pay big money for the
>damned stupid things some day if the damned stupid things you happen to
>have are in some way rare or something
Hmm, you seem to get the point, they might be rare, why bother
learning then ehh ?
>
>I can definitely see where that guy is coming from, and I don't smell a rat.
Like I said, back to wood ......
In article <[email protected]>,
Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
> I emailed the winner of that auction just out of curiosity because I
> saw no feedback on the sale. Turns out many of them were indeed
> counterfeits. It wouldn't suprise me to learn he knew that. It also
> doesn't suprise me to learn he's trying to soak in some cash off the
> fame of that auction. I believe in "caveat emptor" and all but as far
> as I'm concerned he can buy his own beer.
Counerfeit perhaps, but that's not to say he was untruthful in the
auction statement - his ex could have been the one taken by the original
seller(s). He stated a number of times he made no guarantees of any sort.
--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 01:29:50 GMT, Kevin Craig <[email protected]>
wrote :
>Gotta love this guy's style:
>
><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3146042998>
>
>And in order to thank him, you can purchase a certificate of liquid
>appreciation; any proceeds beyond what can be spent for beer will go
>towards more power tools:
>
><http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2960761236>
>
>Kevin
I emailed the winner of that auction just out of curiosity because I
saw no feedback on the sale. Turns out many of them were indeed
counterfeits. It wouldn't suprise me to learn he knew that. It also
doesn't suprise me to learn he's trying to soak in some cash off the
fame of that auction. I believe in "caveat emptor" and all but as far
as I'm concerned he can buy his own beer.
Hyde
I laughed... I cried.... I drank a beer.
Yeah, no kidding I cried. MY ex-wife had a bunch of those #$@ things... I
could afford that nice craftsman radial arm saw I've been wanting! Too bad
I didn't get custody of the crap I paid for! :'(
George
"Keith Carlson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:2Kknb.45881$HS4.203601@attbi_s01...
> "Kevin Craig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:271020031930273304%[email protected]...
> > And in order to thank him, you can purchase a certificate of liquid
> > appreciation; any proceeds beyond what can be spent for beer will go
> > towards more power tools:
> >
> > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2960761236>
> >
> > Kevin
>
> He must be related to the inventor of the pet rock. Sheesh.
>
>
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 22:00:24 -0500, Roy Smith <[email protected]> wrote :
>Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I can't
>> speak for this guy, but I do sell on Ebay and I'd never list anything
>> with the knowledge (before hand or during auction) that some might be
>> fakes and take someone for their hard earned money.
>
>You're only "taking" people if you claim that they are not fakes.
So it's ok to know or suspect they might be and claim ignorance ?
I'm not saying that the case here, just a supposition. In my book
that's taking people, and all I can say is that I am proud of my own
honor.
>
>Lots of stuff is sold with a "no claims made, as is, where is, buyer
>assumes all risks" basis. As long as the seller isn't intentionally
>hiding anything, and the buy understands the risk he's taking, there's
>no deceit involved.
Agreed, but how are you to know the buyer isn't hiding anything ?
That's exactly the reason Ebay instituted the policy you omitted from
your reply. Like I said, I'm not saying the guy is guilty, but for
someone that experienced at selling online, ex wife owned a 1000 and
selling a known collectable it still seems fishy to me.
Back to the wood .....
Hyde
Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
> I can't
> speak for this guy, but I do sell on Ebay and I'd never list anything
> with the knowledge (before hand or during auction) that some might be
> fakes and take someone for their hard earned money.
You're only "taking" people if you claim that they are not fakes.
Lots of stuff is sold with a "no claims made, as is, where is, buyer
assumes all risks" basis. As long as the seller isn't intentionally
hiding anything, and the buy understands the risk he's taking, there's
no deceit involved.
Silvan wrote:
> I'm not trying to sell any of them on eBay for 500% market value
> either though. :)
He started the bidding at what, $10? <g>
> I'm a tool collector, but I only collect tools that I intend to *use*.
Ahh! "Intend." I'm ashamed at some of the tools I bought, 100% "intending"
to use. Most ashamedly, several scrapers from a couple years ago, still in
the plastic packaging. When you use mostly plywood & hardboard... <g>
-- Mark