CABINET SCRAPER

On Feb 25, 10:15 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 7:00pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
> I don't use scraper much except for glue cleanup. I have always held the
> scraper in a way that would allow me to flex a bit so that the corners
> didn't dig in if I didn't have perfect alignment.
> Check this out... this is from the article you linked to: <snip>
>
> I'd just round the edges a bit. Eh, I've never heard of flexing a
> scraper, until on rec.woodworking. And I searched for flex, not bend.
> No biggie. I've never had any problems with a non-bendy scraper, which
> includes, glass, and knife blades. But, if you do want bendy, I don't
> see any reason why they won't work OK. Last time I can actually recall
> scraping anything was something probably around 12-13 years back, and
> for that I used glass - worked just fine.

Isn't bending the scraper the same as skewing a plane?

R

Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 7:00pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
I don't use scraper much except for glue cleanup. I have always held the
scraper in a way that would allow me to flex a bit so that the corners
didn't dig in if I didn't have perfect alignment.
Check this out... this is from the article you linked to: <snip>

I'd just round the edges a bit. Eh, I've never heard of flexing a
scraper, until on rec.woodworking. And I searched for flex, not bend.
No biggie. I've never had any problems with a non-bendy scraper, which
includes, glass, and knife blades. But, if you do want bendy, I don't
see any reason why they won't work OK. Last time I can actually recall
scraping anything was something probably around 12-13 years back, and
for that I used glass - worked just fine.



JOAT
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Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 7:00pm (EST-3) [email protected] did post:
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ADDENDUM:
In thinking, the only time I might opt for a flexible, or bendable,
scraper, is if I were an instrument maker, and would need precise tools.
Even in that event ho, I believe I'd prefer to just make specific
shapped scrapers, rather than flex them. Be a bit time-consuming maybe,
but I think it'd be well worth the effort in the end. That's if I make
my own, if someone wants to donate any to me, I'll take what's offered,
hank them, and use it.



JOAT
10 Out Of 10 Terrorists Prefer Hillary For President - Bumper Sticker

I do not have a problem with a woman president - except for Hillary.

On Feb 26, 1:02 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 25, 10:26 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Isn't bending the scraper the same as skewing a plane?
>
> I don't think so.
>
> Skewing a plane means to make your cut angle skewed to the surface
> grain, rather than to cut directly parallel or perpendicular. You do
> no physically bend the blade causing it to be misshapen. You still
> cut across the width of the blade.
>
> When you literally bend the blade on a scraper, you actually flex the
> blade into concave shape, with the lower part of the curve on the
> surface you are scraping with the edges bent up. You only cut at the
> point of contact, the bottom of your flexed scraper, making the cut
> area much smaller and easier to control.

I realize that bending the scraper is primarily intended to keep the
edges from digging in, but skewing the plane changes the effective
angle of the blade, and that's what's happening when you bend a
scraper. Ancillary benefit.

R

On Feb 26, 6:52 am, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:

> I realize that bending the scraper is primarily intended to keep the
> edges from digging in, but skewing the plane changes the effective
> angle of the blade, and that's what's happening when you bend a
> scraper. Ancillary benefit.

Sounds good to me.

Robert

On Feb 25, 10:30 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 7:00pm (EST-3) [email protected] did post:
> <all snipped>
>
> ADDENDUM:
> In thinking, the only time I might opt for a flexible, or bendable,
> scraper, is if I were an instrument maker, and would need precise tools.
> Even in that event ho, I believe I'd prefer to just make specific
> shapped scrapers, rather than flex them. Be a bit time-consuming maybe,
> but I think it'd be well worth the effort in the end. That's if I make
> my own, if someone wants to donate any to me, I'll take what's offered,
> hank them, and use it.
>

I bought several antique scraper planes.

Some of them had the irons ground to a crown.

--

FF

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 7:00pm (EST-3) [email protected] doth sayeth:
> I don't use scraper much except for glue cleanup. I have always held the
> scraper in a way that would allow me to flex a bit so that the corners
> didn't dig in if I didn't have perfect alignment.
> Check this out... this is from the article you linked to: <snip>
>
> I'd just round the edges a bit. Eh, I've never heard of flexing a
> scraper, until on rec.woodworking. And I searched for flex, not bend.
> No biggie. I've never had any problems with a non-bendy scraper, which
> includes, glass, and knife blades. But, if you do want bendy, I don't
> see any reason why they won't work OK. Last time I can actually recall
> scraping anything was something probably around 12-13 years back, and
> for that I used glass - worked just fine.
>
>
>
> JOAT

I bought a Bahco 5 inch cabinet scraper from Rockler after seeing
David Marks use on one his tv show a few times. It cost $7.00 and
the results are very satisfactory. The finish on an oak jewelry
box I made looks clean, square, and sharp. A lot of work, though.

S.

On Feb 26, 1:02 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 25, 10:26 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Isn't bending the scraper the same as skewing a plane?
>
> I don't think so.
>
> Skewing a plane means to make your cut angle skewed to the surface
> grain, rather than to cut directly parallel or perpendicular. You do
> no physically bend the blade causing it to be misshapen. You still
> cut across the width of the blade.
>
> When you literally bend the blade on a scraper, you actually flex the
> blade into concave shape, with the lower part of the curve on the
> surface you are scraping with the edges bent up.

Convex.

> You only cut at the
> point of contact, the bottom of your flexed scraper, making the cut
> area much smaller and easier to control.
>

It also prevents the corners from digging in.

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FF

RicodJour wrote:
>
> Isn't bending the scraper the same as skewing a plane?

I understand the bend is done for the same reason we camber a smooth
plane blade, to help blend each track with no edges digging in.

On Feb 25, 10:26 pm, RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:

> Isn't bending the scraper the same as skewing a plane?

I don't think so.

Skewing a plane means to make your cut angle skewed to the surface
grain, rather than to cut directly parallel or perpendicular. You do
no physically bend the blade causing it to be misshapen. You still
cut across the width of the blade.

When you literally bend the blade on a scraper, you actually flex the
blade into concave shape, with the lower part of the curve on the
surface you are scraping with the edges bent up. You only cut at the
point of contact, the bottom of your flexed scraper, making the cut
area much smaller and easier to control.

My 0.02, etc.

Robert

On Feb 25, 9:30 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:

> ADDENDUM:
> In thinking, the only time I might opt for a flexible, or bendable,
> scraper, is if I were an instrument maker, and would need precise tools.
> Even in that event ho, I believe I'd prefer to just make specific
> shapped scrapers, rather than flex them.

I think that is one of the reasons there are so many different shapes
of scrapers out there now, including home made ones.

Robert