A long wait for shipping. Arrived today - thanks, Roger at
WoodWorkersWorkshop.
------------
ls-25 with wonderfence
All golden shiny-shiny, half in its box like a 3 foot golden shiny thing.
Daughter arrived home from school singing "Happy Jig-day to you" and demanded
to know when she can start making boxes.
When I've blown out the candles on my Jig-day cake, perhaps?
Watching da video now..
------------
Would anyone (please) be interested in mailing me a 22mm offset (cranked)
wrench in a padded bag, cheap mail?
I'd be happy to paypal the price pre-purchase if anyone would be kind enough
to help out,
Rockler and Woodpecker seem to do 'em for around $20. USD, but want about
80-90 more to post it to England, which is simply insane. I'm sure it doesn't
need fancy packaging, insurance and a personal courier. Padded bag, small
packet rate air should _surely_ be less than the cost of the item itself????
Otherwise sailing along in a big, slow boat would be perfectly acceptable.
If anyone follows this up. I'll post contact details etc.
Grateful thanks to anyone willing to do that Samaritan thing.
:-)
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:19:50 +0000, Morris Dovey wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> Bored Borg wrote:
<snippety-doo-dah>
>>
>> Otherwise sailing along in a big, slow boat would be perfectly acceptable.
>>
>> If anyone follows this up. I'll post contact details etc.
>>
>> Grateful thanks to anyone willing to do that Samaritan thing.
>
> A 22 mm wrench? Send me a picture (or an link to a photo) of what you're
> after and I'll see how quickly I can get one on the way.
>
>
OK, that's extremely decent of you. Thank you very much (and to the others
in the thread, too - much appreciated)
Here's the kind of thing - it's basically for changing router bits from above
the router table without all the cussing and weeping that this normally
entails.
http://www.woodpeck.com/offsetwrenches.html
> Woodpecker Offset Wrench 22mm
> Description |
> Take the pain out of router table bit changes with an offset wrench. The
> design allows the wrench to reach the router collet nut from above the table
> making cutter changes far faster and easier than under the table bit changes.
> Available in three sizes to suit most routers, this offset wrench is made
> from steel and features a durable powder coat finish. Choose from 22mm, 24mm
> and 53/64" to suit the Hitachi M12V.
BUT
seem to be permanently out of stock...
Apparently this is imported by Rutlands (U.K.) but they source from the
above, so also permanently out of stock and they retail it at around 40 USD,
which is not particularly cheap either.
There doesn't seem to be anything available over here. There are cranked ring
spanners and there are open ended podgers, for example, but they are very
thick ships-boiler type things.
-----------------------------------------------
THIS, listed at 21.03 mm is, I think, OK - it's marked as suitable for
"Fein." The Fein 1800 is ANAD identical to my Trend T9s.
Hit/Fein/Triton3-1/4 Wrench/21.03mm 3/4"
Item Number: WR002
Unit Price: $14.90
In Stock
http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=WR002
(I'm sure a quick wipe up a grinder will sort it if it's too tight)
You may have better options available locally. I don't know - I'm
geographically challenged. :-)
Either way, we're talking about ounces rather than pounds, and I don't see an
international order requiring much more "handling" or other "service" to
justify around 2000% increase over the domestic shipping rate. It seems more
a statement of "Yeah, we'll ship international but we really can't be arsed
so instead of looking at what this might actually cost, we'll quote you a
stupid minimum price so you don't put us to the trouble."
:-p
Your help is much appreciated. Thanks again.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:30:44 +0000, [email protected] wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:19:39 +0000, Bored Borg
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> OK, that's extremely decent of you. Thank you very much (and to the others
>> in the thread, too - much appreciated)
>>
>> Here's the kind of thing - it's basically for changing router bits from
>> above
>> the router table without all the cussing and weeping that this normally
>> entails.
>
> In my experience, wrenches for routers are often fairly thin to fit
> the shaft space between the carbide and the bottom of the router. To
> make sure you get a wrench that will work for you, I'd measure the
> maximum thickness the wrench can be as well as giving the 22mm gap.
Yeah - that's why I didn't go for a "podger" spanner, which is the only
open-ended cranked wrench I've been able to find over here.
I was contemplating bending a "plumber's spanner" which is a thin sheet steel
thing designed to handle compression joints, but that'd be as much hassle and
still a compromise.
The one's I'm after are designed (!!) for the job, so I'm fairly confident
It'll be fine, The T9 has a base plate opening you could stick your head in
and look around in while wearing a sombrero, so no worries about side
clearance
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:50:01 +0000, Morris Dovey wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> Bored Borg wrote:
>
>> http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=WR002
>
> It's on order. Now I'd appreciate if you'd send your snail mail address
> so I can re-mail when it arrives. (Reply to sender works - and my e-mail
> address is splattered all over my web site.)
>
> Sommerfield Tools is also in Iowa, so this shouldn't take too long.
>
>
Grateful thanks.
You are an angel. May you be blessed with many sons and healthy camels.
I've e-mailed you from my secret identity, (Ivan Bradley) Oops...
I've just realized I hadn't configured mail on this news client, so sent
from other machine two feet away, so if I've dyslexixed your address (it's 3
am and the head bones connected to the brain bone... with cheese) and nothing
arrives, yell loudly.
Anyway, snail tags are in the mail.
Again, my gratitude.
More grovelling formal closure and salutations (sorry, it's a British thing .
:-) )
I was looking on Ebay earlier, and some stuff is exorbitant to send to uk and
some is very reasonable (dial calipers around 8 usd shipping) so I suspect a
lot of this problem is down to retailers doing NO research and just getting a
throwaway price from their domestic couriers who don't really want to bitty
international business so only give out priority express prices. I'd
consider all this to equate with a lot of missed opportunities on sales. I
just don't understand it. There IS business to be done, US to UK but it's so
difficult to do, from this end. unless moving industrial quantities of stuff.
Amazon seemed to have it sussed, with their partnership dealer program. I
often buy books, DVDs etc in from the USA. A book costs £2.75 to ship, a DVD
£1.24 and I usually get it within a few days. Two days, occasionally and
once I ordered stuff on Sunday and had it the following day. So- if I can get
a coffee-table book, weighing about 4 pounds, sent to me for about 5
an'ahalf bucks, WHY am I being quoted 80 for a 4 ounce wrench.... ?????
When I last sent something to the States, the same package, quoted for
between £45 and £65 for all manner of expedited, 2-day, next day, prioritized
(standard) handling, cost under £10 when sent at small packet rates.. The
same plane, same delivery time but no _guarantee_ of speed - and it's not the
service at the top of the list. Surface would have been cheaper still. Oh
yes.. apart from the very top-priced super-charter options, the "guaranteed"
expedited delivery is not _actually_ guaranteed at all - it's just a target.
In other words, the price difference is down to the stickers the Post Office
puts on your packages, which all travel in the same bag. The probability of
faster delivery of the higher-priced service is probably higher if the
service is swamped, (Christmas post, for example) but realistically, it's
usually just electing to hand over more cash for the same service.
Bah! Humbug!!
Must sleep. Night, all.
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 20:31:47 +0000, [email protected] wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> I got in with a fellow from England who was looking for parts for his
> Chrysler project car. For the agreed price, I shippped what he
> asked for in exchange for Cadbury chocolate bars (If your in England,
> you know what I want). I live in Canada. It was basically cost of
> parts + shipping for cost of chocolate + shipping. I gave him my
> time to go and strip the part out of the donor car. Those rare
> chocolate bars were as valuable as the rare North American car parts.
>
> Want to do some business?
> Pete
well, I live about 8 miles north of the Cadbury's factory...
Does this mean I have to start building a Chrysler?
Had an e-mail from Morris confirming that a bent wrench is on it's way to the
Old Country, courtesy of his own fair hand and efforts (no, not the bending -
the other thing.)
I just want everyone to know what a good bloke he is for taking care of
this-a-thing for a strange foreigner in distress.
Don't miss the next instalment in this exciting saga.
The bent wrench arrived, thanks Morris.
Sommerfeld: black finish with a nice soft-grip handle.
A packet of shiny glass beads and a patronizing message from the Great White
Queen over the water has been left as full payment. A redcoat will be posted
at your door to drink tea and answer questions. (YHM)
As expected, the wrench was a gnats scrote undersize, easily fixed in a few
minutes with a file and some Magic Words which may not be repeated to the
uninitiated. No real problem. Magic Marker restored the finish to a
used-car-salesman standard.
I have to say one of these things should come as standard with every router,
whether or not it is going to be used in a table The difference it makes is
astonishing and it's going to save me a fortune in elastoplast and time spent
in knuckle-sucking watusi dancing.
Delighted, me.
"Bored Borg" wrote
> The bent wrench arrived, thanks Morris.
>
> Sommerfeld: black finish with a nice soft-grip handle.
>
> A packet of shiny glass beads and a patronizing message from the Great
> White
> Queen over the water has been left as full payment. A redcoat will be
> posted
> at your door to drink tea and answer questions. (YHM)
>
> As expected, the wrench was a gnats scrote undersize, easily fixed in a
> few
> minutes with a file and some Magic Words which may not be repeated to the
> uninitiated. No real problem. Magic Marker restored the finish to a
> used-car-salesman standard.
>
> I have to say one of these things should come as standard with every
> router,
> whether or not it is going to be used in a table The difference it makes
> is
> astonishing and it's going to save me a fortune in elastoplast and time
> spent
> in knuckle-sucking watusi dancing.
>
> Delighted, me.
>
Morris is ome of the good guys.
I just have to say that it is a pleasure to read such colorful prose from
someone across the pond.
On Nov 23, 6:57=A0pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" =A0wrote
>
> > Or: =A0"My goodness, that 3M hot-melt sure stays warm whilst it is stil=
l
> > a liquid, eh boss?"
>
> Reminds me of a favorite from my farrier days, upon being asked if it was
> hot when picking up a somewhat cooled down horseshoe, not long out of the
> forge, barehanded ...
>
> "Nope, just didn't take long to look at it!"
>
LOL..or: "Heavy?" (best said when one drops it because it's hot.)
"Bored Borg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> a coffee-table book, weighing about 4 pounds, sent to me for about 5
> an'ahalf bucks, WHY am I being quoted 80 for a 4 ounce wrench.... ?????
I've sort of found a way around a similar problem. I'm in Canada, not as far
from the US, but occasionally, I get a buddy who lives down there to buy me
things and send them regular mail up to me here in Canada. This was a guy I
conversed with through the rec, but whom I haven't yet met in person.
There's been a number of times I've tried to order from Amazon.com and they
won't send the product up to Canada citing trade restrictions. So, I order
the product and have it sent to the friend's place, he then mails it snail
mail up to me in Canada. For the most part, I've been able to get the order
without duty charges, so it's worked out well.
Bored Borg wrote:
> A long wait for shipping. Arrived today - thanks, Roger at
> WoodWorkersWorkshop.
>
> ------------
>
> ls-25 with wonderfence
>
> All golden shiny-shiny, half in its box like a 3 foot golden shiny thing.
>
> Daughter arrived home from school singing "Happy Jig-day to you" and demanded
> to know when she can start making boxes.
>
> When I've blown out the candles on my Jig-day cake, perhaps?
>
> Watching da video now..
>
> ------------
>
>
> Would anyone (please) be interested in mailing me a 22mm offset (cranked)
> wrench in a padded bag, cheap mail?
>
> I'd be happy to paypal the price pre-purchase if anyone would be kind enough
> to help out,
>
> Rockler and Woodpecker seem to do 'em for around $20. USD, but want about
> 80-90 more to post it to England, which is simply insane. I'm sure it doesn't
> need fancy packaging, insurance and a personal courier. Padded bag, small
> packet rate air should _surely_ be less than the cost of the item itself????
>
> Otherwise sailing along in a big, slow boat would be perfectly acceptable.
>
> If anyone follows this up. I'll post contact details etc.
>
> Grateful thanks to anyone willing to do that Samaritan thing.
A 22 mm wrench? Send me a picture (or an link to a photo) of what you're
after and I'll see how quickly I can get one on the way.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Bored Borg wrote:
> http://www.sommerfeldtools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=WR002
It's on order. Now I'd appreciate if you'd send your snail mail address
so I can re-mail when it arrives. (Reply to sender works - and my e-mail
address is splattered all over my web site.)
Sommerfield Tools is also in Iowa, so this shouldn't take too long.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Bored Borg wrote:
> You are an angel. May you be blessed with many sons and healthy camels.
Thanks - but two sons were sufficient, and camels are best in a stew
over rice. I'm already blessed with about as much as I can stand.
> I've e-mailed you from my secret identity, (Ivan Bradley) Oops...
Got it! My ISP's spam filter gave you a record _six_ stars - must be the
accent.
> More grovelling formal closure and salutations (sorry, it's a British thing .
> :-) )
Absolutely unnecessary. We're not much on formality here - but you'll be
held in low regard if you're in town and don't stop to visit. ;-)
This afternoon I got a confirming e-mail from Marc Summerfield saying
that your order is on its way. I already have the Customs Declaration
and mailing label ready, and I'll give you a heads-up when I send it on.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 04:20:55 +0000, Bored Borg
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I was looking on Ebay earlier, and some stuff is exorbitant to send to uk and
>some is very reasonable (dial calipers around 8 usd shipping) so I suspect a
>lot of this problem is down to retailers doing NO research and just getting a
>throwaway price from their domestic couriers who don't really want to bitty
>international business so only give out priority express prices. I'd
>consider all this to equate with a lot of missed opportunities on sales. I
>just don't understand it. There IS business to be done, US to UK but it's so
>difficult to do, from this end. unless moving industrial quantities of stuff.
>
I got in with a fellow from England who was looking for parts for his
Chrysler project car. For the agreed price, I shippped what he
asked for in exchange for Cadbury chocolate bars (If your in England,
you know what I want). I live in Canada. It was basically cost of
parts + shipping for cost of chocolate + shipping. I gave him my
time to go and strip the part out of the donor car. Those rare
chocolate bars were as valuable as the rare North American car parts.
Want to do some business?
Pete
Bored Borg wrote:
> Had an e-mail from Morris confirming that a bent wrench is on it's way to the
> Old Country, courtesy of his own fair hand and efforts (no, not the bending -
> the other thing.)
>
> I just want everyone to know what a good bloke he is for taking care of
> this-a-thing for a strange foreigner in distress.
Not a particularly good bloke - just an ordinary bloke who was sure that
if the situation were reversed, you'd have done the same for him.
Never a foreigner among friends, not /remarkably/ strange :) , and
without much cause for distress.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Bored Borg wrote:
> The bent wrench arrived, thanks Morris.
Not at all. There wasn't any heavy lifting involved; and it's always a
pleasure to visit with the DeSoto Postmistress. :)
> Sommerfeld: black finish with a nice soft-grip handle.
>
> A packet of shiny glass beads and a patronizing message from the
> Great White Queen over the water has been left as full payment. A
> redcoat will be posted at your door to drink tea and answer
> questions. (YHM)
The beads have been duly received but the patronizing message from the
GWQ appears to have been intercepted by our Department of Homeland
Security. The redcoat has been issued jump boots and a faded salad suit,
and has already moved on to where his courage and skills are more direly
needed. He seems a good lad - please see that he is treated well when he
returns home.
> As expected, the wrench was a gnats scrote undersize, easily fixed in
> a few minutes with a file and some Magic Words which may not be
> repeated to the uninitiated. No real problem. Magic Marker restored
> the finish to a used-car-salesman standard.
>
> I have to say one of these things should come as standard with every
> router, whether or not it is going to be used in a table The
> difference it makes is astonishing and it's going to save me a
> fortune in elastoplast and time spent in knuckle-sucking watusi
> dancing.
Hmm - I thought I was the only one who did that dance. Perhaps I should
follow suit with a new wrench for my PC knuckle-buster...
> Delighted, me.
:)
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Robatoy wrote:
> On Nov 23, 11:43 am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The beads have been duly received [snip]
>
> Glass beads? You take payment in glass beads? GLASS BEADS???
> .
> .
> .
> Had I known.....<G>
Actually, I'm willing to negotiate a deal for /any/ bauble comparable to
the Koh-i-Noor diamond or the Timor Ruby...
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
In article <[email protected]>,
Bored Borg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Would anyone (please) be interested in mailing me a 22mm offset
> (cranked) wrench in a padded bag, cheap mail?
Surely you can get one within the UK from somewhere?
What's so special about it? What's it look like?
--
Stuart Winsor
For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk
In article <[email protected]>,
Lee Michaels <leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just have to say that it is a pleasure to read such colorful prose
> from someone across the pond.
All of us in the UK can use colourful prose when prompted...
Ahh....................not *that* sort of colourful language :-)
I'll get my coat.
--
Stuart Winsor
Don't miss the Risc OS Christmas show
http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/mug/show08/MUGshow.html
In article
<[email protected]>,
Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 6:57 pm, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Robatoy" wrote
> >
> > > Or: "My goodness, that 3M hot-melt sure stays warm whilst it is
> > > still a liquid, eh boss?"
> >
> > Reminds me of a favorite from my farrier days, upon being asked if it
> > was hot when picking up a somewhat cooled down horseshoe, not long out
> > of the forge, barehanded ...
> >
> > "Nope, just didn't take long to look at it!"
> >
> LOL..or: "Heavy?" (best said when one drops it because it's hot.)
Trouble his, people can probably detect the smell of roast pork!
--
Stuart Winsor
Don't miss the Risc OS Christmas show
http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/mug/show08/MUGshow.html
On Nov 8, 1:11=A0am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
> This afternoon I got a confirming e-mail from Marc Summerfield saying
> that your order is on its way. I already have the Customs Declaration
> and mailing label ready, and I'll give you a heads-up when I send it on.
Good on ya, Morris. Hope all's well.
JP
On Nov 23, 11:43=A0am, Morris Dovey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The beads have been duly received [snip]
Glass beads? You take payment in glass beads? GLASS BEADS???
.
.
.
Had I known.....<G>
"Robatoy" wrote
> Or: "My goodness, that 3M hot-melt sure stays warm whilst it is still
> a liquid, eh boss?"
Reminds me of a favorite from my farrier days, upon being asked if it was
hot when picking up a somewhat cooled down horseshoe, not long out of the
forge, barehanded ...
"Nope, just didn't take long to look at it!"
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 10/22/08
KarlC@ (the obvious)
On Nov 23, 5:46=A0am, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Bored Borg" =A0wrote
>
>
>
> > The bent wrench arrived, thanks Morris.
>
> > Sommerfeld: black finish with a nice soft-grip handle.
>
> > A packet of shiny glass beads and a patronizing message from the Great
> > White
> > Queen over the water has been left as full payment. A redcoat will be
> > posted
> > at your door to drink tea and answer questions. (YHM)
>
> > As expected, the wrench was a gnats scrote undersize, easily fixed in a
> > few
> > minutes with a file and some Magic Words which may not be repeated to t=
he
> > uninitiated. No real problem. Magic Marker restored the finish to a
> > used-car-salesman standard.
>
> > I have to say one of these things should come as standard with every
> > router,
> > whether or not it is going to be used in a table The difference it make=
s
> > is
> > astonishing and it's going to save me a fortune in elastoplast and time
> > spent
> > in knuckle-sucking watusi dancing.
>
> > Delighted, me.
>
> Morris is ome of the good guys.
>
> I just have to say that it is a pleasure to read such colorful prose from
> someone across the pond.
Yup.. expressions like gnat's scrote are a hoot.
The language uttered, when one dusts one's knuckles in my shop, is
usually: "Oh golly. I must be more careful next time."
Or: "Darn, those countertops sure are ruthless when trying to lob
one's toes off."
Or: "My goodness, that 3M hot-melt sure stays warm whilst it is still
a liquid, eh boss?"
Or: "That door...in my face, was not polite."
Or: "Did you see that inexperienced driver...switching lanes without
using her turn-signals like that?"
Bored Borg wrote:
> Would anyone (please) be interested in mailing me a 22mm offset (cranked)
> wrench in a padded bag, cheap mail?
>
> I'd be happy to paypal the price pre-purchase if anyone would be kind enough
> to help out,
>
> Rockler and Woodpecker seem to do 'em for around $20. USD, but want about
> 80-90 more to post it to England, which is simply insane. I'm sure it doesn't
> need fancy packaging, insurance and a personal courier. Padded bag, small
> packet rate air should _surely_ be less than the cost of the item itself????
>
> Otherwise sailing along in a big, slow boat would be perfectly acceptable.
I'd do it, but I'm up in Canada. Just as a data point, Canada Post says
that it should be possible to ship it air for somewhat less than the
cost of the item (as long as the packaging is small), and ground is
about half as much.
Chris
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:19:39 +0000, Bored Borg
<[email protected]> wrote:
>OK, that's extremely decent of you. Thank you very much (and to the others
>in the thread, too - much appreciated)
>
>Here's the kind of thing - it's basically for changing router bits from above
>the router table without all the cussing and weeping that this normally
>entails.
In my experience, wrenches for routers are often fairly thin to fit
the shaft space between the carbide and the bottom of the router. To
make sure you get a wrench that will work for you, I'd measure the
maximum thickness the wrench can be as well as giving the 22mm gap.