DD

David

05/04/2006 7:33 PM

OT: Stun guns rendered useless by new fabric

Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.

If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!

http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top


dave


This topic has 21 replies

ba

"bremen68"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 9:51 AM

Ya know.....If given the option of being tazed, shot with a rubber
bullet, or shot with a good ol lead bullet....The question begs WHY ARE
YOU BEING SHOT IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Normally the police don't want to even draw their weapons let alone use
them.

But I digress....

About the issue of "shock proof" fabric...Have you seen the
"probe/conductor" that the guns shoot? I'm thinking that they're still
gonna hurt like a mother going in, fabric or no fabric. And if the
they taze you and that doesn't work, the next step will probably be
some wonderful baton work. Ooooh there's an appealing thought....

ba

"bremen68"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 11:36 AM


Gooey TARBALLS wrote:
> Normally the police don't want to even draw their weapons let
>
> Ho, boy, where do you live?
>
> They've shot and killed half a dozen civilians in my town - one in his
> living room chair!
>


I think it's more important I find out where you live Tar....I wanna
stay outta that burg. ;-)

DN

"Dhakala"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 12:10 PM

It's more fun when the cop wants to Taser you but grabs the wrong gun
from her belt. And when the cop's employer gets involved, it becomes
downright hilarious!

"All comedy is tragedy that happens to someone else."

http://www.stellaawards.com/sample.html

A California police officer had the suspect from a minor
disturbance handcuffed in the back of her patrol car. When the man
started to kick at the car's windows, the officer decided to subdue him
with her Taser. Incredibly, instead of pulling her stun gun from her
belt, she pulled her service sidearm and shot the man in the chest,
killing him instantly. The city, trying to protect its budget, says the
killing is not the officer's fault, but rather "any reasonable police
officer" could make such a mistake, slurring every police officer who
actually paid attention to their training. The city filed suit against
Taser, arguing the company should pay for any award from the wrongful
death lawsuit the man's family filed against the cop.




Gooey TARBALLS wrote:
> That'll do it. Cop "stun guns" you and you don't fall down. Cop, then,
> "real guns" you, then you do fall down.
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
> >
> > If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
> >
> > http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
> >
> >
> > dave
> >

DN

"Dhakala"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 12:15 PM


David wrote:
> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>
> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>
> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>
>
> dave

Wouldn't surprise me to see police lobby to ban this fabric from
general use, just as they've successfully banned tinted car windows in
many jurisdictions. It's an officer safety issue, y'know.

DD

David

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 6:55 PM

Odinn wrote:


>
> If you read the website, you would know that it is sold only to police
> forces to prevent then from being hit with their own tazers.
>
If there is a buck to be made, it'll get into the wrong hands...

Dave

GG

"George"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 12:35 PM

Are you listening, Rodney?????

"Vic Baron" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sounds logical to me :)
>
> "Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:Uq1Zf.10440$e11.2807@trnddc02...
>> That'll do it. Cop "stun guns" you and you don't fall down. Cop, then,
>> "real guns" you, then you do fall down.
>>
>> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>>>
>>> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>>>
>>> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>>>
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

GG

"George"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

07/04/2006 1:29 PM


"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> ... as somebody else pointed out, that's kind of a stupid idea if you
> happen to be one of those "wrong hands". You think after the taser
> doesn't
> work, the cop is going to throw up his hands, say, "well, you got me
> buddy,
> run along!"? More than likely he's going to pull out the real hardware
> and
> make the person fall down permanently.
>

Someone ought to read the deadly force policy again.

Is this group really so obtuse as to think that deadly force is anything but
a last - and often too late - resort? The purpose of a taser is to gain
control without risking the officer. He's at enough risk as it is.

For the rest, take a trip down to booking on some semi-quiet night and learn
how much self-control you really have as the fifteenth drunken moron spits
on you....

Mm

Mike

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 9:22 PM

On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:12:20 GMT, "Gooey TARBALLS"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>That'll do it. Cop "stun guns" you and you don't fall down. Cop, then,
>"real guns" you, then you do fall down.
>
>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>>
>> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>>
>>
>> dave
>>
>
Great, a werable Faraday Cage. What's it got to do with wood?

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 4:20 PM

Sounds logical to me :)

"Gooey TARBALLS" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Uq1Zf.10440$e11.2807@trnddc02...
> That'll do it. Cop "stun guns" you and you don't fall down. Cop, then,
> "real guns" you, then you do fall down.
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>>
>> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>>
>>
>> dave
>>
>
>

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 6:28 PM


"bremen68" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ya know.....If given the option of being tazed, shot with a rubber
> bullet, or shot with a good ol lead bullet....The question begs WHY ARE
> YOU BEING SHOT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
>
> Normally the police don't want to even draw their weapons let alone use
> them.
>
> But I digress....
>
> About the issue of "shock proof" fabric...Have you seen the
> "probe/conductor" that the guns shoot? I'm thinking that they're still
> gonna hurt like a mother going in, fabric or no fabric. And if the
> they taze you and that doesn't work, the next step will probably be
> some wonderful baton work. Ooooh there's an appealing thought....
>

Most police officers are frustrated music conductors anyway - baton practice
is a good thing.

GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 5:12 AM

That'll do it. Cop "stun guns" you and you don't fall down. Cop, then,
"real guns" you, then you do fall down.

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>
> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>
> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>
>
> dave
>

DD

David

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 11:41 AM

bremen68 wrote:
> Gooey TARBALLS wrote:
>
>>Normally the police don't want to even draw their weapons let
>>
>>Ho, boy, where do you live?
>>
>>They've shot and killed half a dozen civilians in my town - one in his
>>living room chair!
>>
>
>
>
> I think it's more important I find out where you live Tar....I wanna
> stay outta that burg. ;-)
>
Stockon, CA, isn't too safe... http://stockton.areaconnect.com/crime1.htm

dave

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 8:40 PM

On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 18:55:08 -0700, David <[email protected]> wrote:

>Odinn wrote:
>
>
>>
>> If you read the website, you would know that it is sold only to police
>> forces to prevent then from being hit with their own tazers.
>>
>If there is a buck to be made, it'll get into the wrong hands...
>
>Dave

... as somebody else pointed out, that's kind of a stupid idea if you
happen to be one of those "wrong hands". You think after the taser doesn't
work, the cop is going to throw up his hands, say, "well, you got me buddy,
run along!"? More than likely he's going to pull out the real hardware and
make the person fall down permanently.



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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

cc

cdo

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 2:13 PM

Has anyone tried reading "stun guns" in reverse?

cdo


On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 05:12:20 GMT, "Gooey TARBALLS"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>That'll do it. Cop "stun guns" you and you don't fall down. Cop, then,
>"real guns" you, then you do fall down.
>
>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>>
>> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>>
>>
>> dave
>>
>

WS

Wes Stewart

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

07/04/2006 5:16 AM

On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:27:15 -0400, Odinn <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 4/6/2006 3:15 PM Dhakala mumbled something about the following:
>> David wrote:
>>> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>>>
>>> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>>>
>>> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>>>
>>>
>>> dave
>>
>> Wouldn't surprise me to see police lobby to ban this fabric from
>> general use, just as they've successfully banned tinted car windows in
>> many jurisdictions. It's an officer safety issue, y'know.
>>
>
>If you read the website, you would know that it is sold only to police
>forces to prevent then from being hit with their own tazers.

My wife has a cousin who is a San Diego County deputy sheriff. He
told me that when they changed from 9mm's to 40 SW's they also had to
upgrade their body armor. They realize they are as likely to be fired
on by their own weapons as ones already held by bad guys.

Ob

Odinn

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 8:27 PM

On 4/6/2006 3:15 PM Dhakala mumbled something about the following:
> David wrote:
>> Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>>
>> If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>>
>>
>> dave
>
> Wouldn't surprise me to see police lobby to ban this fabric from
> general use, just as they've successfully banned tinted car windows in
> many jurisdictions. It's an officer safety issue, y'know.
>

If you read the website, you would know that it is sold only to police
forces to prevent then from being hit with their own tazers.

--
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David

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 9:35 AM

Gooey TARBALLS wrote:
> That'll do it. Cop "stun guns" you and you don't fall down. Cop, then,
> "real guns" you, then you do fall down.
>
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Anything one man can invent, another man can circumvent.
>>
>>If you plan on getting Tasered, here's just the thing to wear!
>>
>>http://news.com.com/Polyester+fabric+neutralizes+stun+gun+jolt/2100-1008_3-6057801.html?tag=nefd.top
>>
>>
>>dave
>>
>
>
>
Saves on court expenses!

dave

DD

David

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 11:34 AM

Vic Baron wrote:

>
> Most police officers are frustrated music conductors anyway - baton practice
> is a good thing.
>
>
LOL! And there is plenty of videotape to back up your comment! <g>

Dave

l

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 11:57 PM

Hey, maybe they could make dust collector ducts from this material!


--

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[email protected]

GT

"Gooey TARBALLS"

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 6:26 PM

Normally the police don't want to even draw their weapons let

Ho, boy, where do you live?

They've shot and killed half a dozen civilians in my town - one in his
living room chair!


"bremen68" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ya know.....If given the option of being tazed, shot with a rubber
> bullet, or shot with a good ol lead bullet....The question begs WHY ARE
> YOU BEING SHOT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
>
> Normally the police don't want to even draw their weapons let alone use
> them.
>
> But I digress....
>
> About the issue of "shock proof" fabric...Have you seen the
> "probe/conductor" that the guns shoot? I'm thinking that they're still
> gonna hurt like a mother going in, fabric or no fabric. And if the
> they taze you and that doesn't work, the next step will probably be
> some wonderful baton work. Ooooh there's an appealing thought....
>

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to David on 05/04/2006 7:33 PM

06/04/2006 11:29 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> Hey, maybe they could make dust collector ducts from this material!

Maybe you should've duct when you said that. Next time, you can avoid
the shock.

er
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