Perhaps seperate group for INSPIRATION posts.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave, wow - I apologize that I have very clearly offended you on this
> one.


Dave tends to like to be the one that makes these type suggestions and you
apparently beat him to it.

On 19 Jan 2005 10:06:26 -0800, [email protected] wrote:


>I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
>group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
>Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
>Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
>to put them as opposed to the larger group.


This one keeps coming back from time to time - kinda like herpes.

I like checking out JOAT's stuff - some of them are funny - some of
them are dumb - some of them are cool.

I can tell you this much for sure - JOAT's gonna keep on doing what he
does no matter what anybody else thinks - and that's what I like about
the man.



tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

I vote for JOAT to stick around and keep posting here. I can read or ignore
as I please thanks to the clear subject lines.

Andy
http://www.myweb.cableone.net/andya/

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
> title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
> there are still a lot of them.
>
> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
> Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
> to put them as opposed to the larger group.
>

> Yes, and they're all from the same person, with the same word in the
> subject. Simple to configure to ignore in any good newsreader if
> that's your preference.

I don't - and perhaps others - don't use a traditional newsreader app
but browse via a web browser (groups.google.com). I have seen posts in
the past where people comment on the volume of messages and bandwidth
concerns so I don't see why this question is so unusual. I am NOT
attacking him or his posts simply asking - what I thought - was a
reasonable question.

> So, let me get this straight. You agree that they're on-topic,
Yes

> you
> point out that they are consistantly marked,
Yes

> and you want him to go away with them?
NO!!

> Wouldn't it be easier to ignore them, either manually or
programmatically?
It IS fairly easy to ignore them but I was mearly asking if perhaps we
should consider creating a dedicated group/list for them as there are
quite a few of them.

> JOAT, if you'd like some webspace to put your links, in addition to
> posting them here, I'll get you set up.
And I think the site would get traffic.

Dave, wow - I apologize that I have very clearly offended you on this
one. However, I think that you are missing my point. I mean NO
ill-will towards him and I am not asking him to change what he does for
me (regardelss of my choice of news interface) but decided to post a
question to the group for consideration. Again, I mearly asked what I
thought was a reasonable question to the broader group. The posts so
far have been overwhelmingly in favor of his continuing to post his
inspiration messages here. Great, the question I asked appears to have
been aswered. As far as my asking HIM to go away - not the case at
all. He posts other things besides the inspiration posts to this group
just like everyone else does.

And to address your point of "...how your choice of a piss-poor
interface to read Usenet should dictate
that a useful resource is made less useful for everyone.." - I actually
think another newsgroup for THIS TYPE OF POST (not just posts from this
person) would make the resource more useful to everyone as it would be
more easily searchable etc.

Dave, at this point I think we are arguing semantics instead of
substance. Might I suggest that we either aggree to disagree or take
the discussion private (email in header is real). I would welcome the
opportunity to continue if you like.

I DO know how to use Google, I DO know that there are newsreaders out
there that filter, I DO NOT want the inspiration posts to go away
entirely I was just inquiring about moving/grouping them is all.

not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-)

Lucky me! :-)

To all the comments "get a normal newsreader", you live in a
cloistered, home based world. I travel every week and I'm on hotel and
client networks throughout the week. There is NO way to use an offline
newsreader in these firewalled, restricted environments. You have to
use a web based approach to reading. So what's the big deal?

Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!) inspiration
posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to find other
messages buried in there. Selfish? You bet. I'm not alone. There are
thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the
road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance. 35 a day is out of
balance.

Bob

Usenet is not the web? Nobody said it was.

Tom,

What source of newsgroups do you subscribe to? Can you get ABPW on the
road? I'll look into agent. Many of the networks I am on block the
ports used by newsreaders - especially client networks.

Tom,

What source of newsgroups do you subscribe to? Can you get ABPW on the
road? I'll look into agent. Many of the networks I am on block the
ports used by newsreaders - especially client networks.

Wrong interface? When did software become a moral issue?

Wrong interface? When did software become a moral issue?

Oh, one more thing - I assumed you were using broadband at the hotels.
You weren't using dial up by any chance were you? I've never had a
problem with dialup to my ISP from anywhere - I just can't stand to use
it, especially when some of the hotels charge $1.00 for each phone
call. More and more of the hotels are going all wireless. I use
earthlink at home and they simply will not allow you to access
newsgroups in any manner unless you are on their network - impossible
on the road unless you dialup. Ptooey!

Bob

In article <[email protected]>, Dave
Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I kinda like the idea of a separate area for plans.

alt.woodworking.plans already exists. Seems like nobody much is using
it, though.

Have fun!

djb

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

In article <[email protected]>, Upscale
<[email protected]> wrote:

> It's not a binary newsgroup so I have to ask, would it be appropriate for
> the posting of binaries? Usenet etiquette would say no, but that doesn't
> deter everybody these days.

Usually it's your news provider/ISP who determines whether or not you
can post a binary to a non-binary group. Any responsible one won't
allow it.

djb

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> There are
> thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the
> road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance.

Usenet is not the web. The fact that there are web interfaces to access
Usenet is irrelevant to Usenet, IMO.

The problem you have is that you are using the wrong interface to
access news groups, plain and simple. The reasons *why* you are using
that interface is also irrelevant to Usenet, IMO.

You can ride a moped on the freeway, but don't expect other drivers to
slow down to 25 mph so you can read their licence plates.

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:43:08 -0600, Dave Balderstone
> <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:
>
> >"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
> >sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows
>
>
> language is a virus

Burma!

--
"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows

On 19 Jan 2005 10:06:26 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
> title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
> there are still a lot of them.

Yes, and they're all from the same person, with the same word in the
subject. Simple to configure to ignore in any good newsreader if
that's your preference.

> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).

So, let me get this straight. You agree that they're on-topic, you
point out that they are consistantly marked, and you want him to
go away with them? Wouldn't it be easier to ignore them, either
manually or programmatically? If your newsreader doesn't support
ignoring any message with a particular word in the headers, or
a particular sender, get a better one.

> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?

> Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
> to put them as opposed to the larger group.

JOAT, if you'd like some webspace to put your links, in addition to
posting them here, I'll get you set up.

Dave Hinz

On 19 Jan 2005 10:32:21 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, and they're all from the same person, with the same word in the
>> subject. Simple to configure to ignore in any good newsreader if
>> that's your preference.
>
> I don't - and perhaps others - don't use a traditional newsreader app
> but browse via a web browser (groups.google.com). I have seen posts in
> the past where people comment on the volume of messages and bandwidth
> concerns so I don't see why this question is so unusual. I am NOT
> attacking him or his posts simply asking - what I thought - was a
> reasonable question.

So because of your choice of a limited newsreading tool (in this case,
web-based), you want him to change how he's doing things, for you.

>> So, let me get this straight. You agree that they're on-topic,
> Yes
>
>> you
>> point out that they are consistantly marked,
> Yes
>
>> and you want him to go away with them?
> NO!!

Seems to me that telling him to go to a different group is equivalent
to "go away with them".

>> Wouldn't it be easier to ignore them, either manually or
> programmatically?
> It IS fairly easy to ignore them but I was mearly asking if perhaps we
> should consider creating a dedicated group/list for them as there are
> quite a few of them.

This fits any definition of "go away" that I can think of.

>> JOAT, if you'd like some webspace to put your links, in addition to
>> posting them here, I'll get you set up.

> And I think the site would get traffic.

Great. And I'm glad he posts them here as well. I'm sorry, but I don't
see how your choice of a piss-poor interface to read Usenet should dictate
that a useful resource is made less useful for everyone.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
> title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
> there are still a lot of them.
>
> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
> Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
> to put them as opposed to the larger group.
>

I don't think we need another group for this type of post. They are as "on
topic" as you can get to a woodworking newsgroup so why not keep them here.
I don't see bandwidth as an issue because all you're getting in the subject
line. Very little traffic there.

What JOAT could do to reduce the number of posts would be to do an
'Inspiration' post and list all the stuff he finds in that one post. But,
I'm not his momma so I can't tell him what to do. Just a thought. :-)

Bryan

On 19 Jan 2005 10:52:51 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave, wow - I apologize that I have very clearly offended you on this
> one.

I'm not _offended_, I'm boggled that someone would impose the results
of their own poor choice of tools on a group of people.

> However, I think that you are missing my point. I mean NO
> ill-will towards him and I am not asking him to change what he does for
> me (regardelss of my choice of news interface) but decided to post a
> question to the group for consideration.

But the thing you're proposing _is_ that he change what he's doing,
and to not post them to the group.

> Again, I mearly asked what I
> thought was a reasonable question to the broader group. The posts so
> far have been overwhelmingly in favor of his continuing to post his
> inspiration messages here. Great, the question I asked appears to have
> been aswered. As far as my asking HIM to go away - not the case at
> all. He posts other things besides the inspiration posts to this group
> just like everyone else does.

So you just want him to go away with the INSPIRATION posts. Got it.

> And to address your point of "...how your choice of a piss-poor
> interface to read Usenet should dictate
> that a useful resource is made less useful for everyone.." - I actually
> think another newsgroup for THIS TYPE OF POST (not just posts from this
> person) would make the resource more useful to everyone as it would be
> more easily searchable etc.

You can't google for the word INSPIRATION in rec.woodworking at
groups.google.com? (hint: yes, you can. Trivially so. Just as it's
trivial to ignore messages with that in the subject with any decent
newsreader.)

On 19 Jan 2005 11:40:09 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I DO know how to use Google, I DO know that there are newsreaders out
> there that filter, I DO NOT want the inspiration posts to go away
> entirely I was just inquiring about moving/grouping them is all.

Yes, apparently we have different meanings in mind of how "go away"
is or is not the same as "don't do it here". I can't see much point
in continuing the conversation either.

On 19 Jan 2005 12:07:26 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lucky me! :-)

You asked for input and I provided it. I see it as a selfish request,
for something you could trivially work around.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:37:07 -0500, Upscale <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 19 Jan 2005 12:07:26 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> > Lucky me! :-)
>>
>> You asked for input and I provided it. I see it as a selfish request,
>> for something you could trivially work around.
>
> Oh, grow up for Christ's sake. The guy made a suggestion and few agree with
> it. Fine, he realizes it, so let it be and you stop being an obnoxious
> prick.

Do us both a favor and killfile me then, wouldja? Thanks awfully.
Guy wants the world to change for him; I provided several ways he can
get what he wants without a useful resource being taken away.

I kinda like the idea of a separate area for plans. Don't get me wrong
though, I certainly don't mind JT's inspirational posts as it is now, and i
do take the time to look at most of them.
But there are many people who inquire just about plans and I'm sure many
more of us who have many plans saved somewhere on the hard drive that could
potentially be posted. (I know if I unloaded all the plans on my hard drive,
it'd probably "tilt" a server or two!)
It may complement a.b.p.w. as well. One could say "here's what i built,
plans posted at rec.plans" or something.
I guess I'm all for sharing as many resources as we can, and keeping them as
easy to access as posssible. --dave
p.s. keep up the good work JT.

"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ISzHd.8456$Vx2.6167@trndny01...
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
>> most seem to be posted by the same person.
>
>>
>> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
> I'm glad you brought it up. We've been looking to make a couple of
> changes here and have a moderator for the group. We need a volunteer for
> the spot. Are you interested? If so, just mention it and we will vote
> you in. Most of us agree on having a moderator, but we're just not sure
> how to go about it.
>
> I hope you can and will help us.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>

Not to worry - you just had a run in with someone who has to have a comment
on just about every post made here. And you caught him on a good day.....;-)


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-)
>

On 20 Jan 2005 17:02:57 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>To all the comments "get a normal newsreader", you live in a
>cloistered, home based world. I travel every week and I'm on hotel and
>client networks throughout the week. There is NO way to use an offline
>newsreader in these firewalled, restricted environments. You have to
>use a web based approach to reading. So what's the big deal?
>
>Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!) inspiration
>posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to find other
>messages buried in there. Selfish? You bet. I'm not alone. There are
>thousands of people like me who travel and have limited tools on the
>road to enjoy the news groups. Its about balance. 35 a day is out of
>balance.
>
>Bob


I travel a fair amount and stay in cheesy places like Hampton Inn and
Holiday Inn Express.

I've never had a problem using Agent in any of these places.


tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

On 19 Jan 2005 10:06:26 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
>most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
>title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
>there are still a lot of them.
>
>Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
>respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
>I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
>group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
>Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
>Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
>to put them as opposed to the larger group.

Personally, I like JOAT's stuff right where it is. This group is a bit
like eating chow mein - you can encounter just about anything in it,
and that's part of what makes it good.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

On 20 Jan 2005 18:09:27 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Tom,
>
>What source of newsgroups do you subscribe to? Can you get ABPW on the
>road? I'll look into agent. Many of the networks I am on block the
>ports used by newsreaders - especially client networks.


My primary source is uni-berlin. No binaries.

My secondary source is what Comcast provides, which I believe is
Giganews. Good retention on binaries.

My tertiary source is TeraNews. Unpredictable service but is free
(although I believe they have instituted a low one time fee since I
signed on with them).

I've really never had a problem getting through to the Wreck on
uni-berlin on the road, although, as you have experienced, there may
be a problem with providers who use password protocols that don't get
along with the hotel interface. This also happens to me when I try to
access Giganews or TeraNews at work.

When this happens I get an error message that I can't defeat.

HTH




tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 19 Jan 2005 12:07:26 -0800, [email protected] <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > Lucky me! :-)
>
> You asked for input and I provided it. I see it as a selfish request,
> for something you could trivially work around.

Oh, grow up for Christ's sake. The guy made a suggestion and few agree with
it. Fine, he realizes it, so let it be and you stop being an obnoxious
prick.

"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I like the way that JOAT does his internet search results - easy to pass by,
>but easy to identify the ones that might hold something of interest to me.
>And I have even benefited from a few of them in finding something that was
>of use to me, or maybe just enjoying a comment that JOAT may have posted
>with the link. Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they
>are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post
>here, and thank him for doing so.

Hear! Hear! JOAT is as thoughtful as possible in using subject headers
that allow the reader to decide whether to read. While the nature of
the posts is a distinct subset (rec.woodworking.plans?) the volume is
small enough to easily stay in the larger, on-topic group, and is too
small, IMHO, to warrant a group of its own.

--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:49:30 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
>> most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
>> title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
>> there are still a lot of them.
>>
>> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
>> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
>> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
>> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>>
>> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>>
>> Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
>> to put them as opposed to the larger group.
>>
>
>JOAT...thanks, man. I appreciate what you're doing for us.
>I think Larry does too.
>
>0¿0
>
>Rob

Most of us like JOAT, cuz he's as off the wall as the rest of us...

Maybe we could get him knighted???

Sir JOAT...
I like it..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person.

>
> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?

I'm glad you brought it up. We've been looking to make a couple of changes
here and have a moderator for the group. We need a volunteer for the spot.
Are you interested? If so, just mention it and we will vote you in. Most
of us agree on having a moderator, but we're just not sure how to go about
it.

I hope you can and will help us.

Thanks,
Ed

[email protected] wrote:
> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).

MM... let me see..

NO

Good lord, of all the crap in here you object to that the most?

> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?

Here is an easy way to get thoughts from JOAT: Write the following, or
something like it:

"I searched for free plans for a futon but could not find any. Does
anybody have free plans for one?"

A subject like "Anyone got free plans?" will help it gain the attention
it deserves.

I give you a pretty good chance on hearing from him. While you are at
it, you could try emailing him privately and asking for some as well.

PK

No, bad idea, VERY bad!

[email protected] wrote:

>There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
>most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
>title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
>there are still a lot of them.
>
>Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
>respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
>I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
>group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
>Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
>Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
>to put them as opposed to the larger group.
>
>
>

You are new here aintcha.
Maybe some suggestions after you see how this group works.



<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
> title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
> there are still a lot of them.
>
> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
> Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
> to put them as opposed to the larger group.
>

"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
>
> alt.woodworking.plans already exists. Seems like nobody much is using

It's not a binary newsgroup so I have to ask, would it be appropriate for
the posting of binaries? Usenet etiquette would say no, but that doesn't
deter everybody these days.

Fred wrote:
> Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they
> are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post
> here, and thank him for doing so.


Ditto.

Thanks, JOAT

Barry

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:

>
>Well, on days like Monday, when there were 35 (yes 35!) inspiration
>posts, I had to wade through nine screenfuls of the stuff to find other
>messages buried in there.

How hard is it to go to the Advanced Search page, and type the word
"inspiration" in the <without the words> block, before you click on Search?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

While we are on the topic of INSPIRATION, does any one have the link for the
pointy stick? :^)


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
> title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
> there are still a lot of them.
>
> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
> Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
> to put them as opposed to the larger group.
>

[email protected] wrote:
> not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-)

Don't take it too personally. A while back there was
a particularly obscene and persistent troll that was
attacking JOAT for no logical reason I could ever see.
It got quite bad for a while and I suppose folks here
may be a little quick to circle the wagons if it
seems like someone might be starting that up again.
One of the troll's favorite things was to post a complaining
response to every one of JOAT's inspiration posts.
So, you hit a little close to a sore spot there.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

Andy wrote:
> I vote for JOAT to stick around and keep posting here. I can read or ignore
> as I please thanks to the clear subject lines.



Yeah... what he said. It's not JOAT's fault you can't run a normal newsreader.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

[email protected]

On 19 Jan 2005 10:06:26 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
>most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
>title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
>there are still a lot of them.
>
>Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
>respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
>I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
>group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
>Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
>Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
>to put them as opposed to the larger group.


Well, this newsgroup is big, maybe even classified as "huge." But
it's amazing the majority prefer it that way. Occasionally, I
appreciate JOAT postings and any thoughts by others who have an
inspiration or wood design thought. Wood can be shaped into just
about any crazy idea. For the most part, I'm a "traditional"
woodworker, but enjoy seeing something out of the ordinary at times.
Creating more groups means more unwanted crossposts. The only reason
ABPW makes sense is that this newsgroup is strictly a non-binary
discussion group.

In article <[email protected]>,
"Fred" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I like the way that JOAT does his internet search results - easy to pass by,
> but easy to identify the ones that might hold something of interest to me.
> And I have even benefited from a few of them in finding something that was
> of use to me, or maybe just enjoying a comment that JOAT may have posted
> with the link. Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they
> are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post
> here, and thank him for doing so.
>
> Fred Bearman
> Port Huron, Michigan
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> > most seem to be posted by the same person.
>
>

*waving*

"FRED!!"

"Over here! I can see your house from here!"

0¿0

Rob
Sarnia, ON

PS. I know a shortcut to a Lee Valley store. 55mins, tops.

In article <ISzHd.8456$Vx2.6167@trndny01>,
"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> > most seem to be posted by the same person.
>
> >
> > Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
> I'm glad you brought it up. We've been looking to make a couple of changes
> here and have a moderator for the group. We need a volunteer for the spot.
> Are you interested? If so, just mention it and we will vote you in. Most
> of us agree on having a moderator, but we're just not sure how to go about
> it.
>
> I hope you can and will help us.
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
>
>

*wiping screen and keyboard*

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:

> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person. The INSPIRATION in the
> title certaily makes them easy to read/ignore at the readers choice but
> there are still a lot of them.
>
> Of the ones that I have looked at, most are not my cup of tea but I
> respect the poster's right to post them as they are certainly on-topic.
> I am just wondering if it might not be a good idea to setup a seperate
> group/list for these types of posts (Similar to ABPW for pics).
>
> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
> Again, not suggesting NOT to post them but perhaps have a central place
> to put them as opposed to the larger group.
>

JOAT...thanks, man. I appreciate what you're doing for us.
I think Larry does too.

0¿0

Rob

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-)


There are pile's o plenty in this group.

[email protected] wrote:

>Dave, at this point I think we are arguing semantics instead of
>substance. Might I suggest that we either aggree to disagree or take
>the discussion private (email in header is real). I would welcome the
>opportunity to continue if you like.
>
>I DO know how to use Google, I DO know that there are newsreaders out
>there that filter, I DO NOT want the inspiration posts to go away
>entirely I was just inquiring about moving/grouping them is all.

And everyone has said (some gently and some harshly): since it is
trivial to group them as it is, and to ignore them if they are not of
interest, why bother with moving them?
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 19:43:08 -0600, Dave Balderstone
<dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote:

>"The thing about saying the wrong words is that A, I don't notice it, and B,
>sometimes orange water gibbon bucket and plastic." -- Mr. Burrows


language is a virus

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:59:20 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
><[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
>> most seem to be posted by the same person.
>
>>
>> Thoughts anyone? JOAT, thoughts?
>
>I'm glad you brought it up. We've been looking to make a couple of changes
>here and have a moderator for the group. We need a volunteer for the spot.
>Are you interested? If so, just mention it and we will vote you in. Most
>of us agree on having a moderator, but we're just not sure how to go about
>it.
or whether or not anyone will pay attention to one.. *eg*



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Don't be so hard on Larryfox Dave. I doubt he is out to get your job.

"Dave Hinz" <[email protected]> wrote in message

I'm not going to suggest that Joat move his posts because I like reading
them. Along the same lines however, it would be nice if there was a central
location that one could go to and view them. (Aside from going to google and
implementing a specific search parameter)

On 20 Jan 2005 18:44:30 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>Oh, one more thing - I assumed you were using broadband at the hotels.
>You weren't using dial up by any chance were you? I've never had a
>problem with dialup to my ISP from anywhere - I just can't stand to use
>it, especially when some of the hotels charge $1.00 for each phone
>call. More and more of the hotels are going all wireless. I use
>earthlink at home and they simply will not allow you to access
>newsgroups in any manner unless you are on their network - impossible
>on the road unless you dialup. Ptooey!
>
>Bob


I carry around an AOL Trial CD as an emergency backup but the places
that I stay in are mostly on broadband. Plenty of hotels don't charge
for local calls and AOL has that pretty well covered.

Sometimes I carry a Sprint Cellular wireless card that plugs into the
PCMCIA slot but the throughput is usually slow.

I have a lot more problem maintaining a connection to our remote ERP
interface when I'm on the road than I do with the Wreck. It's Axapta,
and if you work for a company that is thinking of using it - tell them
not to bother.



tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)
http://home.comcast.net/~tjwatson1 (webpage)

[email protected] wrote:

> Wrong interface? When did software become a moral issue?

Almost instantly. Need convincing? Visit http://www.stallman.org
and ask the self-styled "Guardian of Software Morality" himself
(requires a strong stomach.)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/solar.html

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> not so new but sure did step in the proverbial pile with this one. :-)

Well Dave is our local self appointed net nanny. I have been here for 4 or
5 years and when he came on board a few months ago he was suggesting how I
should post. I still post as I wish.

I like the way that JOAT does his internet search results - easy to pass by,
but easy to identify the ones that might hold something of interest to me.
And I have even benefited from a few of them in finding something that was
of use to me, or maybe just enjoying a comment that JOAT may have posted
with the link. Since it doesn't cost anything to have them here, and they
are so well labeled, I am certainly in favor of JOAT continuing to post
here, and thank him for doing so.

Fred Bearman
Port Huron, Michigan

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There are quite a few messages posted with INSPIRATION in the title and
> most seem to be posted by the same person.