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dean

16/12/2008 11:09 PM

@#$& Borer in old toy!!!!!

Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
to the pesky little varmits.


This topic has 19 replies

BB

Bored Borg

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

18/12/2008 8:34 PM

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:09:55 +0000, dean wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
> has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
> kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
> trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
> alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
> to the pesky little varmits.

Place in thick plastic bag.
Attach shop vac to mouth of bag with rubber bands.
Evacuate all air from bag, as quickly as possible.

keep attached for 10 minutes or so.

The rapid pressure change should be enough to explode a lot of small critters
(works very well for hard-bodied bugs) and long time connected _should_ work
to suffocate most everything else - larvae, worms... )

BB

Bored Borg

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

18/12/2008 8:45 PM

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:09:55 +0000, dean wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
> has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
> kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
> trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
> alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
> to the pesky little varmits.

Place in thick plastic bag.
Attach shop vac to mouth of bag with rubber bands.
Evacuate all air from bag, as quickly as possible.

keep attached for 10 minutes or so.

The rapid pressure change should be enough to explode a lot of small critters
(works very well for hard-bodied bugs) and long time connected _should_ work
to suffocate most everything else - larvae, worms... )

(supersede addendum)

Remember that bore holes indicate a completed hatching cycle - the holes are
drilled from the inside out by escaping bugs and not by the breeding egg
layers. Therefore worm holes demonstrate that bugs have been and already
gone.. Treatment is therefore locking stable door _OR_ trying to prevent the
_next_ hatching cycle, which may never happen, and if it is, eggs will
probably not be down the same wormholes.
Hope this makes sense,,,

BB

Bored Borg

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

20/12/2008 11:24 AM

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 23:07:43 +0000, Stuart wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):

> In article <[email protected]>,
> MikeWhy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yuck. That's as bad as finding half the worm in the apple.
>
> The thing to worry about is /where/ they have gone!
>
> You build your houses out of wood don't you?
>

Then came the Big Bad Wolf
who said
"I'll huff, and I'll puff..."

dn

davy

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

17/12/2008 12:36 PM

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "dean" wrote:
>
>> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason
>> now has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the
>> stem.
>> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes
>> to exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so
>> the kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking
>> of trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about
>> isapropel alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its
>> done some damage to the pesky little varmits.
>
>
> Depends on the finish, if any.
>
> My first choice would be denatured, not isopropyl (contains water),
> alcohol; however, if it has shellac finish, that would be a problem.
>
> Immer4se for a couple of days, then let air dry.
>
> Lew
>
>

Yep it has a shellac finish.
Where do you get denatured alcohol?
I could try squirting it down the holes with syringe.
Thanks Dean

dn

davy

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

17/12/2008 12:37 PM


>
> Wikipedia (searched on "wood borer") says that wrapping the object in
> plastic and putting it in a freezer for several weeks would do the
> trick but again, without a way to be absolutely certain they're all
> dead, I'd worry.

Too big for the freezer
thanks Dean

dn

davy

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

17/12/2008 12:38 PM

mac davis wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:09:55 +1100, dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
>> has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
>> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
>> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
>> kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
>> trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
>> alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
>> to the pesky little varmits.
>
> Is it small enough to put in a freezer bag full of moth balls?


Too big for the freezer
thanks Dean

dn

davy

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

17/12/2008 12:38 PM

SonomaProducts.com wrote:
> Freezer? Oven? Microwave?

Too big for all the above.
thanks Dean

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

16/12/2008 11:23 AM

Freezer? Oven? Microwave?


On Dec 16, 4:09=A0am, dean <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
> has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
> kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
> trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
> alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
> to the pesky little varmits.

SS

Stuart

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

19/12/2008 11:07 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
MikeWhy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yuck. That's as bad as finding half the worm in the apple.

The thing to worry about is /where/ they have gone!

You build your houses out of wood don't you?

--
Stuart Winsor

For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk

ee

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

16/12/2008 7:24 AM

On Dec 16, 6:09=A0am, dean <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
> has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
> kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
> trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
> alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
> to the pesky little varmits.

I don't know what method would be best to kill them nor do I know how
to tell if you do, but I can say with a fair amount of certainty that
if you do not kill them, they will spread from that toy to the house.

Personally I would sacrifice the toy rather than take a chance on
infecting the house with whatever that bug is.

Wikipedia (searched on "wood borer") says that wrapping the object in
plastic and putting it in a freezer for several weeks would do the
trick but again, without a way to be absolutely certain they're all
dead, I'd worry.

Mb

"MikeWhy"

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

19/12/2008 1:40 AM

"Bored Borg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Remember that bore holes indicate a completed hatching cycle - the holes
> are
> drilled from the inside out by escaping bugs and not by the breeding egg
> layers. Therefore worm holes demonstrate that bugs have been and already
> gone..

Yuck. That's as bad as finding half the worm in the apple.

Mb

"MikeWhy"

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

19/12/2008 7:26 PM

"Stuart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> MikeWhy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yuck. That's as bad as finding half the worm in the apple.
>
> The thing to worry about is /where/ they have gone!
>
> You build your houses out of wood don't you?

Yes. That's the whole point. It's evidence, or at least an indication, that
the bad thing has already happened.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

17/12/2008 1:44 AM

"davy" wrote:

> Yep it has a shellac finish.
> Where do you get denatured alcohol?

On the same shelf with the shellac at the Home Depot; however, I
wouldn't go that way.

I'd try "nailshooters" approach, he has been to the movie, or
mothballs in a ZipLock bag.

Either way, you don't attack the structure or the finish.

Lew

md

mac davis

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

17/12/2008 7:47 AM

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:38:09 +1100, davy <[email protected]> wrote:

>mac davis wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:09:55 +1100, dean <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
>>> has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
>>> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
>>> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
>>> kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
>>> trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
>>> alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
>>> to the pesky little varmits.
>>
>> Is it small enough to put in a freezer bag full of moth balls?
>
>
>Too big for the freezer
>thanks Dean

No, just freezer bags or anything that will seal the air in.. don't need cold
with the mothballs..


mac

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bb

"basilisk"

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

16/12/2008 8:22 AM


"dean" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now has
> borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the kids
> can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of trying some
> linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel alcohol as in CD
> cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage to the pesky
> little varmits.

If the finish will stand it, dunk the whole thing in methylated spirits,
if it doesn't kill them, then at least they will have a Merry Christmas.

Basilisk

r

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

17/12/2008 2:28 PM

dean <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
> has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
> exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
> kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
> trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
> alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
> to the pesky little varmits.

Never tried this, but I'm thinking that injecting shellac or polyurethane
into the holes would coat the little buggers and kill them.

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

EP

"Ed Pawlowski"

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

16/12/2008 10:31 PM


"davy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> Wikipedia (searched on "wood borer") says that wrapping the object in
>> plastic and putting it in a freezer for several weeks would do the
>> trick but again, without a way to be absolutely certain they're all
>> dead, I'd worry.
>
> Too big for the freezer
> thanks Dean


Trash bag and mothballs? Ammonia? CO?

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

16/12/2008 2:44 PM

"dean" wrote:

> Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason
> now has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the
> stem.
> Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes
> to exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so
> the kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking
> of trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about
> isapropel alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its
> done some damage to the pesky little varmits.


Depends on the finish, if any.

My first choice would be denatured, not isopropyl (contains water),
alcohol; however, if it has shellac finish, that would be a problem.

Immer4se for a couple of days, then let air dry.

Lew

md

mac davis

in reply to dean on 16/12/2008 11:09 PM

16/12/2008 7:56 AM

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:09:55 +1100, dean <[email protected]> wrote:

>Have a small tree toy that I made 2 years ago that for some reason now
>has borer/woodworm dust coming from some little holes in the stem.
>Anybody have any ideas of something that I can squirt down the holes to
>exterminate them. As its a toy I don't want anything too toxic so the
>kids can still play with it. I have a syringe and I was thinking of
>trying some linseed oil or something like that. What about isapropel
>alcohol as in CD cleaner that would evaporate after its done some damage
>to the pesky little varmits.

Is it small enough to put in a freezer bag full of moth balls?
(That should leave it wide open for jokes)


mac

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