Today I Went to Heaven - Not OT

In article <[email protected]>,
WillR <[email protected]> wrote:
>LRod wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:29:10 -0400, "Lee K" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:49:43 -0400, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I put away some Gatorade in the shade when I got back on the ground
>>>>and all was well.
>>>
>>>Good thing the U. of Florida invented Gatorade and that Florida State
>>>didn't, else we'd be drinking Seminole Fluid.
>>
>> How long have you been waiting to work that into a conversation?
>
>Someone once remarked about Churchill that he had spent the better part
>of his life working on his impromptu remarks.
>
A friend tells the story of coming home one day with the BIGGEST sh*t-eating
grin on his face. He'd *finally* gotten an opportunity to use a smart remark
he'd thunk up more than _20_years_ earlier. And it _was_ a beauty of a line.
But it was only applicable to a very specific set of circumstances.

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:32:55 -0500, Tom Banes <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tuesday this week SWMBO called my from the ER (BAD!). Seems she'd been
> over the Farmersville (yes, really the name) TX to see the traveling
> Vietnam Memorial Wall and pay her respects to a HS Classmate who fell.
> Heat and stress caused her heart to go wild (160+) and it wouldn't
> seem to calm down despite her breathing exercises

That can be scary, yes.

> I broke a few laws getting over there from the office (a Honda S2000
> is quite quick if you want it to be, say 140+). Turns out she was
> sitting up in an ER bed complaining she wanted out! All was fine and
> after 2 hours she was out. Whew!

That's always a good sign. As we're taught in EMT school, "sick
patients don't bitch". If they're well enough to complain, they'll be
just fine. An oversimplification, but basically true.
>
> walnuts (American, South American...) curly cherry and about every
> kind of exotic I'd ever heard of. They had it in burl chunks two men
> couldn't lift, they had it 4/4, 5/4, 6/4, 8/4, they had it in pen
> blanks, turning blanks, bowl blanks. They had it stacked everywhere!
> It was unreal.

Sounds like heaven...

> www.curlywoods.com

> They really have some nice stuff and ship all over. Plus, from my
> experience with Frank, they're good folks. I have no commercial
> relationship, other than as a customer.

Thanks for the info!

"Tom Banes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tuesday this week SWMBO called my from the ER (BAD!). Seems she'd been
> over the Farmersville (yes, really the name) TX to see the traveling
> Vietnam Memorial Wall and pay her respects to a HS Classmate who fell.
> Heat and stress caused her heart to go wild (160+) and it wouldn't
> seem to calm down despite her breathing exercises (it's happened
> before, so she knew what to try). Anyway, she was transported to the
> ER in McKinney TX - hence the call.
>
> I broke a few laws getting over there from the office (a Honda S2000
> is quite quick if you want it to be, say 140+). Turns out she was
> sitting up in an ER bed complaining she wanted out! All was fine and
> after 2 hours she was out. Whew!

Not uncommon, especially with older folks like me, to get a bit off in heat
regulation and maybe lose too many electrolytes. That can do some dismal
stuff. Make sure she wears her hat and drinks her Gatorade.

Sad to say, there are still MDs out there who will prescribe diuretics
without even mentioning a Potassium supplement.

"Mark & Juanita" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >> Bob: I did the kidney stone bit one time - hope never to do another!
> >> I've been shot at and hit and the pain was minimal compared to that
> >> little beggar. It passed in about 3 hours, thank god, 'cause I was
> >> wailing like a baby and disturbing TLOML. Hopefully your big bro
> >> passed it quick too.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >
> >Stay away from strawberries, rhubarb and asparagus....
> >
> >DAMHIKT
>
> Somebody I work with was convinced that it was eating cashews (the nuts)
> that caused his kidney stones.
>
>
They recommend avoiding peanuts and beans. Sadly though the list to avoid
includes spinach, it also includes chocolate and coffee, depending on your
doctor. Drink your milk.

Back to woodworking. Did you know that the calcium oxalate which forms a
kidney stone is also the substance that produces mineral stain in maple?

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:19:54 -0400, WillR
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tom Banes wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:05:42 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Let's see....take one rather big brother (ex-cop, paramedic, member of
>>>Sheriff's rescue squad) and one tiny, itzy-bitzy kidney stone and mix with
>>>about 6 beers at 1am. At 3am you're at the ER.........and he's loudly
>>>proclaiming how sick he was gonna be - then proved it. Talk about a looong
>>>night.....;-)
>>>
>>>Bob S.
>>>
>>
>> Bob: I did the kidney stone bit one time - hope never to do another!
>> I've been shot at and hit and the pain was minimal compared to that
>> little beggar. It passed in about 3 hours, thank god, 'cause I was
>> wailing like a baby and disturbing TLOML. Hopefully your big bro
>> passed it quick too.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>
>Stay away from strawberries, rhubarb and asparagus....
>
>DAMHIKT

Somebody I work with was convinced that it was eating cashews (the nuts)
that caused his kidney stones.




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>
>I'd suggest that you cowboy up and go.. it hurts like hell, but you'll be glad
>that you went...
>
>I can't really say that it's closure or anything, but it's a very emotional
>feeling. and emotion, like fear, can only last for so long... let it out at the
>wall, that's what it's for, bro..
>
Mac:

Thanks for the words - someday soon, but not with my grandson, not the
first time anyway. I don't think I'd be able to adequately explain
just why Granpa was crying.

Gary Owens bro!

Tom Banes
was Capt Inf
US Army
1967 - 1973
Honor Graduate OC 519, Bennings School for Boys, 3/12/68

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:29:10 -0400, "Lee K" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:49:43 -0400, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I put away some Gatorade in the shade when I got back on the ground
>> and all was well.
>>
>
>Good thing the U. of Florida invented Gatorade and that Florida State
>didn't, else we'd be drinking Seminole Fluid.

How long have you been waiting to work that into a conversation?

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:49:43 -0400, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> I put away some Gatorade in the shade when I got back on the ground
> and all was well.
>

Good thing the U. of Florida invented Gatorade and that Florida State
didn't, else we'd be drinking Seminole Fluid.

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:32:55 -0500, Tom Banes <[email protected]>
wrote:

>BTW, I haven't yet worked up the courage to go to the Wall, though I
>commuted to Dulles every week for more than a year and worked not 45
>minutes from the Wall in Washington. Too many comrades, too many
>memories - I'm not ready yet.
>
>Regards.

I'd suggest that you cowboy up and go.. it hurts like hell, but you'll be glad
that you went...

I can't really say that it's closure or anything, but it's a very emotional
feeling. and emotion, like fear, can only last for so long... let it out at the
wall, that's what it's for, bro..

I've never seen the real wall, but recently took my 3rd trip to the moving
version... took my grand kids this time and tried to explain th them that each
name on those wall sections was a living person... most of them teenagers..
it's a very powerful experience..




mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Let's see....take one rather big brother (ex-cop, paramedic, member of
Sheriff's rescue squad) and one tiny, itzy-bitzy kidney stone and mix with
about 6 beers at 1am. At 3am you're at the ER.........and he's loudly
proclaiming how sick he was gonna be - then proved it. Talk about a looong
night.....;-)

Bob S.


> That's always a good sign. As we're taught in EMT school, "sick
> patients don't bitch". If they're well enough to complain, they'll be
> just fine. An oversimplification, but basically true.
>>

"Tom Banes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Thanks for the words - someday soon, but not with my grandson, not the
> first time anyway. I don't think I'd be able to adequately explain
> just why Granpa was crying.

When the traveling wall was in our town, it was staffed 24 hours a day.
Some guys preferred to go in the wee hours of the morning. Do go (either
the original or the traveling) if you have the chance. It is a very moving
experience as you find the names of friends, classmates, or relatives. .

"Tom Banes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> BTW, I haven't yet worked up the courage to go to the Wall, though I
> commuted to Dulles every week for more than a year and worked not 45
> minutes from the Wall in Washington. Too many comrades, too many
> memories - I'm not ready yet.
>


Tom,

I don't think you need courage to visit the wall, just a realization that
the tools you've used to survive since Viet Nam won't disappear once you go.
Don't go 'til you're ready, just realize that if you do go, you won't lose
your way.

Many years ago, when I first heard about the wall, I thought the government
built it. My reaction was to want to go piss all over it. I then learned
that it was built by vets like you and me and I lightened up. The first
time I went, I encountered a scruffy looking veteran in old fatigues in a
booth near by. He went out of his way to say "Welcome home". I realized he
was the first person to ever say that to me and it only took about 20 years.
Choked me up.

I went to the wall and touched the names I knew with my fingers. I felt
like Doubting Thomas with his fingers in the nail holes in Christ's hands
and, hell, I ain't even christian anymore.

In some places, it's billed as "the wall that heals". I think, perhaps,
there is truth there. For me, I came to realize that I could survive
without so many of the hard feelings that helped me hold it together for the
last thirty some odd years. Good thing, since it's gettin' harder to keep
"all the balls in the air", hard feelings included. I still keep the
memories to honor those on the wall.

I'm not sure why I'm writing, except maybe to assure you you're not alone.

Glad things worked out for SWMBO....and the wood sounds good, too.

Bill Leonhardt

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:35:49 -0700, the opaque mac davis
<[email protected]> spake:

>On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:32:55 -0500, Tom Banes <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>BTW, I haven't yet worked up the courage to go to the Wall, though I
>>commuted to Dulles every week for more than a year and worked not 45
>>minutes from the Wall in Washington. Too many comrades, too many
>>memories - I'm not ready yet.
>>
>>Regards.
>
>I'd suggest that you cowboy up and go.. it hurts like hell, but you'll be glad
>that you went...
>
>I can't really say that it's closure or anything, but it's a very emotional
>feeling. and emotion, like fear, can only last for so long... let it out at the
>wall, that's what it's for, bro..

I got a lot of closure out of it, but I didn't go to 'Nam.


>I've never seen the real wall, but recently took my 3rd trip to the moving
>version... took my grand kids this time and tried to explain th them that each
>name on those wall sections was a living person... most of them teenagers..
>it's a very powerful experience..

On my one trip to the east coast in '98, I went up in the Empire State
Building, went inside the Statue of Liberty, rode on a NYC subway, and
visited the Lincoln and Washington (Clinton/Viagra) monuments, and saw
the Vietnam Memorial Wall. I felt exhilaration in the ESB, awe and
patriotism in the SOL, humor in the unsmiling NYCS, awe at the Lincoln
monument, humor at the Washington monument, and dropped lots of tears
at the Wall. Too many people with whom I attended school died over
there and came back in body bags. Those who came back were no longer
whole or sane.

On a lighter note, your first sentence up there stirred another memory
in my fetid little mind. Cowboy Sex! It's when you mount her doggy
style, wrap one arm around her middle, grab her hair with the other
hand, and then call her by some other girl's name. Hang on tight!
Yeeeee Haw!


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On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:49:43 -0400, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Tom Banes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Tuesday this week SWMBO called my from the ER (BAD!). Seems she'd been
>> over the Farmersville (yes, really the name) TX to see the traveling
>> Vietnam Memorial Wall and pay her respects to a HS Classmate who fell.
>> Heat and stress caused her heart to go wild (160+) and it wouldn't
>> seem to calm down despite her breathing exercises (it's happened
>> before, so she knew what to try). Anyway, she was transported to the
>> ER in McKinney TX - hence the call.
>>
>> I broke a few laws getting over there from the office (a Honda S2000
>> is quite quick if you want it to be, say 140+). Turns out she was
>> sitting up in an ER bed complaining she wanted out! All was fine and
>> after 2 hours she was out. Whew!
>
>Not uncommon, especially with older folks like me, to get a bit off in heat
>regulation and maybe lose too many electrolytes. That can do some dismal
>stuff. Make sure she wears her hat and drinks her Gatorade.

I passed out twice 80' up on a tower one time due to heat. Felt
fatigue first, put my head on my arms and went to sleep. My climbing
buddy told me I was out about 15 seconds on the first one and about 5
or 6 on the second. That ended my work for that day.

It happened to be a very high heat index day that day (near Chicago in
the summer), but what I think exacerbated the situation was that I was
wearing a hard hat (which I always do when climbing and preach very
loudly to others to do so). What I should have done was in between
work sessions (or position changes) take it off for a few moments and
let that big radiator on the top of my head do its work.

I put away some Gatorade in the shade when I got back on the ground
and all was well.

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997

Tom Banes wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:05:42 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Let's see....take one rather big brother (ex-cop, paramedic, member of
>>Sheriff's rescue squad) and one tiny, itzy-bitzy kidney stone and mix with
>>about 6 beers at 1am. At 3am you're at the ER.........and he's loudly
>>proclaiming how sick he was gonna be - then proved it. Talk about a looong
>>night.....;-)
>>
>>Bob S.
>>
>
> Bob: I did the kidney stone bit one time - hope never to do another!
> I've been shot at and hit and the pain was minimal compared to that
> little beggar. It passed in about 3 hours, thank god, 'cause I was
> wailing like a baby and disturbing TLOML. Hopefully your big bro
> passed it quick too.
>
> Regards.
>

Stay away from strawberries, rhubarb and asparagus....

DAMHIKT


--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:05:42 GMT, "BobS" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Let's see....take one rather big brother (ex-cop, paramedic, member of
>Sheriff's rescue squad) and one tiny, itzy-bitzy kidney stone and mix with
>about 6 beers at 1am. At 3am you're at the ER.........and he's loudly
>proclaiming how sick he was gonna be - then proved it. Talk about a looong
>night.....;-)
>
>Bob S.
>
Bob: I did the kidney stone bit one time - hope never to do another!
I've been shot at and hit and the pain was minimal compared to that
little beggar. It passed in about 3 hours, thank god, 'cause I was
wailing like a baby and disturbing TLOML. Hopefully your big bro
passed it quick too.

Regards.

LRod wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 13:29:10 -0400, "Lee K" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"LRod" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 18:49:43 -0400, "George" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I put away some Gatorade in the shade when I got back on the ground
>>>and all was well.
>>>
>>
>>Good thing the U. of Florida invented Gatorade and that Florida State
>>didn't, else we'd be drinking Seminole Fluid.
>
>
> How long have you been waiting to work that into a conversation?
>


Someone once remarked about Churchill that he had spent the better part
of his life working on his impromptu remarks.



--
Will
Occasional Techno-geek