I am building a small cabinet for a bathroom out of maple and cherry (trim).
I haven't worked with maple before. Anyway, I got all the cuts made and out
the four sides together last night and glued it up. I then went to put in
some finishing nails (by hand, no nail gun... yet). Man, is this stuff
hard. Made a mess out of one even after pre-drilling the hole about halfway
the length of the nail. Anybody have a trick to doing this? I REALLY hate
it when the nail bends.
Old nail gun/compressor hand me downs accepted...;+}
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"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I am building a small cabinet for a bathroom out of maple and cherry (trim).
> I haven't worked with maple before. Anyway, I got all the cuts made and out
> the four sides together last night and glued it up. I then went to put in
> some finishing nails (by hand, no nail gun... yet). Man, is this stuff
> hard. Made a mess out of one even after pre-drilling the hole about halfway
> the length of the nail. Anybody have a trick to doing this? I REALLY hate
> it when the nail bends.
>
> Old nail gun/compressor hand me downs accepted...;+}
>
> --
> -Jim
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>
> If you want to reply by email its --> ryan at jimryan dot com
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No reason to nail it after going to the effort to glue it, assuming you used a water resistant glue. I only use nails/Brads to hold
things during glue-up that do not show and are difficult to clamp.
Just my opinion.
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Al Reid
How will I know when I get there...
If I don't know where I'm going?
Really? That would be great. I used the traditional yellow glue. Should
that be enough?
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"Al Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > I am building a small cabinet for a bathroom out of maple and cherry
(trim).
> > I haven't worked with maple before. Anyway, I got all the cuts made and
out
> > the four sides together last night and glued it up. I then went to put
in
> > some finishing nails (by hand, no nail gun... yet). Man, is this stuff
> > hard. Made a mess out of one even after pre-drilling the hole about
halfway
> > the length of the nail. Anybody have a trick to doing this? I REALLY
hate
> > it when the nail bends.
> >
> > Old nail gun/compressor hand me downs accepted...;+}
> >
> > --
> > -Jim
> > ©¿©¬
> >
> > If you want to reply by email its --> ryan at jimryan dot com
> > Please use BCC and lets all avoid spam
> >
> >
>
> No reason to nail it after going to the effort to glue it, assuming you
used a water resistant glue. I only use nails/Brads to hold
> things during glue-up that do not show and are difficult to clamp.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> --
> Al Reid
>
> How will I know when I get there...
> If I don't know where I'm going?
>
>
Thanks, I'll check that out. For other's, here is a tinyurl to the same
thing:
http://tinyurl.com/37rf
Think I'll start a thread on glue... but it's probably redundant.
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"patriarch [email protected]>" <<patriarch> wrote in message
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> "jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
> > Really? That would be great. I used the traditional yellow glue.
> > Should that be enough?
> >
>
> Try this stuff: (watch the wrap) Titebond Molding & Trim glue.
>
>
http://www.titebond.com/IntroPageTB.ASP?UserType=1&ProdSel=ProductCategoryT
> B.asp?prodcat=1
>
> I found it at my excellent local hardware store. MUCH easier to use in
> your application. I shot a few 18 ga brads anyway, because I told my wife
> I needed the brad nailer for the trim work.
>
> I've been using the glue for other small projects, because I like the way
> it handles, and fills the small gaps, which are much more noticable in
> small projects people pick up and examine closely.
>
> Patriarch
>
yep, maple's tough. i have success nailing it (with a gun) when i
monitor the grain direction and predict how/if the nail will deflect.
sometimes instead of using nails i use self-tapping trim screws to
secure - even without predrilling, i'm yet to split the end of a board.
the best advice - get a nail gun. the little porter cable
compressor/nailer package is a good deal, and will serve you well for
years. my suggestion is to use this project as an excuse to get that
tool before you ruin expensive wood by nailing by hand.
--- -dz
jtpr wrote:
> I am building a small cabinet for a bathroom out of maple and cherry (trim).
> I haven't worked with maple before. Anyway, I got all the cuts made and out
> the four sides together last night and glued it up. I then went to put in
> some finishing nails (by hand, no nail gun... yet). Man, is this stuff
> hard. Made a mess out of one even after pre-drilling the hole about halfway
> the length of the nail. Anybody have a trick to doing this? I REALLY hate
> it when the nail bends.
>
> Old nail gun/compressor hand me downs accepted...;+}
>
> --
> -Jim
> ©¿©¬
>
> If you want to reply by email its --> ryan at jimryan dot com
> Please use BCC and lets all avoid spam
>
>
If you don't have a nail gun, take a pair of wire cutters and cut of the
head of one of the finish nails. Chuck it into your drill and pre-drill the
nail hole. Since the nail is now shorter than the length of the nail with
the head, you have the perfect hole size for the finish nail. Don't even
think about using a drill bit. You have as many drill bits as you have
nails. Try it, you will find that thousands and thousands of trim
carpenters aren't wrong.
When you are really building nice furniture, you try to find ways to glue
the molding instead of nailing it.
Preston
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am building a small cabinet for a bathroom out of maple and cherry
(trim).
> I haven't worked with maple before. Anyway, I got all the cuts made and
out
> the four sides together last night and glued it up. I then went to put in
> some finishing nails (by hand, no nail gun... yet). Man, is this stuff
> hard. Made a mess out of one even after pre-drilling the hole about
halfway
> the length of the nail. Anybody have a trick to doing this? I REALLY
hate
> it when the nail bends.
>
> Old nail gun/compressor hand me downs accepted...;+}
>
> --
> -Jim
> ©¿©¬
>
> If you want to reply by email its --> ryan at jimryan dot com
> Please use BCC and lets all avoid spam
>
>
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> I am building a small cabinet for a bathroom out of maple and cherry (tri=
m).
> I haven't worked with maple before. Anyway, I got all the cuts made and =
out
> the four sides together last night and glued it up. I then went to put i=
n
> some finishing nails (by hand, no nail gun... yet). Man, is this stuff
> hard. Made a mess out of one even after pre-drilling the hole about half=
way
> the length of the nail. Anybody have a trick to doing this? I REALLY ha=
te
> it when the nail bends.
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> Old nail gun/compressor hand me downs accepted...;+}
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> --
> -Jim
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Without knowing exactly what you were nailing to what and why, if it is=20
already glued, the simple answer is to not use nails.=20
Second answer is to drill counter sunk holes, use screws and plugs over=20
the screw heads.
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MikeG
Heirloom Woods
www.heirloom-woods.net
[email protected]
I wouldn't use nails in the first place, but IF I did, I'd first drill
completely through the top board using a drill bit slightly smaller than
the nail.
David
jtpr wrote:
> I am building a small cabinet for a bathroom out of maple and cherry (trim).
> I haven't worked with maple before. Anyway, I got all the cuts made and out
> the four sides together last night and glued it up. I then went to put in
> some finishing nails (by hand, no nail gun... yet). Man, is this stuff
> hard. Made a mess out of one even after pre-drilling the hole about halfway
> the length of the nail. Anybody have a trick to doing this? I REALLY hate
> it when the nail bends.
>
> Old nail gun/compressor hand me downs accepted...;+}
>
> --
> -Jim
> ©¿©¬
>
> If you want to reply by email its --> ryan at jimryan dot com
> Please use BCC and lets all avoid spam
>
>
> Made a mess out of one even after
> pre-drilling the hole about halfway the length of the nail. Anybody
> have a trick to doing this? I REALLY hate it when the nail bends.
Use a drill bit just a size smaller than the nail, and drill ALL the way
through.
Or wait for the glue to dry, and skip the nails, Norm.
Scott
"jtpr" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Really? That would be great. I used the traditional yellow glue.
> Should that be enough?
>
Try this stuff: (watch the wrap) Titebond Molding & Trim glue.
http://www.titebond.com/IntroPageTB.ASP?UserType=1&ProdSel=ProductCategoryT
B.asp?prodcat=1
I found it at my excellent local hardware store. MUCH easier to use in
your application. I shot a few 18 ga brads anyway, because I told my wife
I needed the brad nailer for the trim work.
I've been using the glue for other small projects, because I like the way
it handles, and fills the small gaps, which are much more noticable in
small projects people pick up and examine closely.
Patriarch
Another thing I used to do before nail guns--- Occasionally I would come
across a hardwood trimming problem where splitting seemed inevitable even
with predrilled holes. I would predrill the holes and then cut the head off
of one of the finish nails I was using and chuck it in my drill motor.
Using the nail as a bit I would redrill the hole to most of the length of
the nail, then set the nail in the hole. Since part of the nail is in the
chuck you still get grip from friction, the unenlarged part of the hole and
the head itself. As noted by others, do this with glue backup.
Nail guns are good!