Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and
baseballing.
I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for
almost as long.
I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after
legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at
a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was
responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an
agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,
here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've
because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like
Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in
baseball circuits.
The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss
it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the google map
street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.
Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for
future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick
through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in
a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but
they are identical in specs/performance.
The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took
us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place
seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than
double-wide trailers. :-)
I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his
bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame.
Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:55:23 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and
>baseballing.
>I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for
>almost as long.
>I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after
>legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
>
>Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at
>a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was
>responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an
>agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
>
>Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,
>here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've
>because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like
>Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in
>baseball circuits.
>
>The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss
>it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the google map
>street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.
>Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for
>future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
>
>So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick
>through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in
>a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but
>they are identical in specs/performance.
>
>The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took
>us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place
>seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than
>double-wide trailers. :-)
>
>I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
>I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
>garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his
>bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame.
>
>Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>
><https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
It wasn't all-that-long-ago that bats made of maple
became common in the big leagues ...
https://canada.sambat.com/pages/about-sam-bat
Another guy who started at his idea - in the garage ..
gotta love it !
John T.
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote:
> Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and
> baseballing.
> I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for
> almost as long.
> I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after
> legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
>
> Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at
> a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was
> responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an
> agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
>
> Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,
> here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've
> because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like
> Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in
> baseball circuits.
>
> The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss
> it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the google map
> street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.
> Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for
> future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
>
> So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick
> through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in
> a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but
> they are identical in specs/performance.
>
> The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took
> us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place
> seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than
> double-wide trailers. :-)
>
> I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
> I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
> garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his
> bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame.
>
> Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>
>
Pretty cool. And those are very unique looking bats.
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:34:35 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 4/20/18 7:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:55:23 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and
>>> baseballing.
>>> I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for
>>> almost as long.
>>> I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after
>>> legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
>>>
>>> Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at
>>> a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was
>>> responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an
>>> agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
>>>
>>> Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,
>>> here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've
>>> because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like
>>> Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in
>>> baseball circuits.
>>>
>>> The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss
>>> it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the google map
>>> street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.
>>> Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for
>>> future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
>>>
>>> So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick
>>> through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in
>>> a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but
>>> they are identical in specs/performance.
>>>
>>> The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took
>>> us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place
>>> seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than
>>> double-wide trailers. :-)
>>>
>>> I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
>>> I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
>>> garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his
>>> bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame.
>>>
>>> Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>>>
>>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>>
>>
>>
>> It wasn't all-that-long-ago that bats made of maple
>> became common in the big leagues ...
>>
>> https://canada.sambat.com/pages/about-sam-bat
>>
>> Another guy who started at his idea - in the garage ..
>> gotta love it !
>> John T.
>>
>
>That's cool, I didn't know about him.
>I used ash bats up until discovering maple.
>All it took was one solid "POP!" in the cages to make the switch.
>A lot of guys still like ash for the flex, but the ball just seem to
>jump off of maple.
Must be something in the water, up there in Ottawa -
a guy named Leonard Lee started a business there,
out of a rented basement ... selling mail-order stove kits !
John T.
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:18:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 4/21/2018 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
>>>>
>>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>>
>> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
>> in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
>> sand lot games.
>>
>> The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They give hundreds
>> of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo on it. Hundreds of NYC fans,
>> many of them drunk and rowdy.
>>
>> What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
>>
>
>Back when kids/drunk adults were taught to use their heads, little
>happened. Now days all bets are off because, one out of a zillion, will
>obtain an attorney and we end up where we are today.
But then again there was Disco Demolition at Comiskey Park may years
ago, A Bill Veck promo gone awry.
On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-4, Jack wrote:
> On 4/27/2018 3:40 PM, Michael wrote:
> > On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 11:13:25 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
> >> On 4/21/2018 11:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
> >>>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
> >>>
> >>> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
> >>> in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
> >>> sand lot games.
> >>
> >> When I was a kid my best friends uncle was Stan "The Man" Musial. He
> >> gave me one of his broken bats, which we taped up and tried to use. The
> >> bat was WAY to big for 10 year olds, and the tape didn't hold up anyway.
> >> The bat was in my Mom's house for at least 30-40 years and then
> >> disappeared. Probably could have sold it to Rick Harrison on the Pawn
> >> Stars show for some cash.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jack
> >> Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
> >> http://jbstein.com
> >
> > Not apples to apples, but good shape, game used Stan Musial bat with provenance: $13,668.00
> >
> > https://lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=83611
> >
> Neat. Musial gave the bat to his nephew, same as my bat. Mine was
> broken though, but it was broken by the man, I assume at a game. Maybe
> I should search my mom's house a little harder. My mom probably thew it
> out along with my boxes of baseball cards from the 50's...
>
My brother had a fairly extensive original set of Lionel Trains from the early
1950's. Besides the trains, there was a complete village set of the same
scale. Mom/Dad tossed it all when they moved from our childhood home to their
retirement home.
I don't recall exactly what was in the set (memory may have expanded it's
size over the years) but I see values of $500 to $1500 for the train set on
auction sites.
On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
> >
> > Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
> >
> > https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
> >
>
> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
sand lot games.
The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They give hundreds
of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo on it. Hundreds of NYC fans,
many of them drunk and rowdy.
What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
On 4/21/2018 10:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/21/18 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
>>>>
>>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>>
>> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young
>> fans
>> in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
>> sand lot games.
>>
>> The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They give
>> hundreds
>> of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo on it. Hundreds of
>> NYC fans,
>> many of them drunk and rowdy.
>>
>> What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
>>
>
> When you go to a game, now, all you see is people with their heads
> buried in their phones.
> It's no wonder people are getting injured from foul balls and broken bats.
> Put your fu@%!ng phone down and watch the game! Experience real life,
> not simulated on a screen!
+1 I am proud to say that my wife and I forced a cell phone on our 20
year old son 10 years ago. He still does not use it much, he does not
always answer my texts! ;~(
>
> Notice the phone in the kid's hands.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ixM64cfEecgmQNfj2
>
>
Now you see that right there? That is a lost teaching moment. Had dad
let the bat pop the kid, an excerpt from the book on School of hard
Knocks states, the kid would never use his phone at a base ball game again.
On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 11:55:27 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>=20
> So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick=20
> through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in=
=20
> a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but=
=20
> they are identical in specs/performance.
>=20
> The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took=
=20
> us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place=20
> seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than=20
> double-wide trailers. :-)
>=20
> I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
> I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his=20
> garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his=20
> bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame=
.
>=20
> Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>=20
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> -MIKE-
Looks like a great place to visit. So does he air dry his blanks, or does h=
e kiln dry them before putting them on the racks? It's interesting he doesn=
't paint the edges of the blanks to keep them from splitting while drying. =
I wonder what water percentage is the sweet spot for his product.
DerbyDad03 <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> My brother had a fairly extensive original set of Lionel Trains from
> the early 1950's. Besides the trains, there was a complete village set
> of the same scale. Mom/Dad tossed it all when they moved from our
> childhood home to their retirement home.
>
> I don't recall exactly what was in the set (memory may have expanded
> it's size over the years) but I see values of $500 to $1500 for the
> train set on auction sites.
Many Lionel sets just aren't that valuable, especially without the
original box. Still, if you've got one it's best to check their value
before doing anything with them.
FWIW, if anyone wants to get theirs fixed I know a guy. He handles the
Lionel repairs for the local hobby shop and has worked with them for much
longer than I have. (I handle the HO and N repairs.)
Puckdropper
--
http://www.puckdroppersplace.us/rec.woodworking
A mini archive of some of rec.woodworking's best and worst!
On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 11:30:17 AM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/20/18 7:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 4/20/2018 7:00 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >=20
> >> It's also not uncommon for a fastball to shatter the composite bats
> >> that the girls use these days. Anything below 60=C2=B0 and the girls
> >> leave their good bats in their lockers. A shattered composite bat
> >> is a dangerous instrument. Multiple sharp jagged points of carbon
> >> fiber.
> >>=20
> >=20
> > Bats are supposed to be wood!
>=20
> My old guy league is wood bat, mostly for tradition and player protection=
.
> I would like to use one of those composite bats in BP sometime just to
> send some over the fence.
>=20
> They now make wood bats with composite handles, so you get the best of
> both worlds.
> The tradition, true performance, sound and feel of wood, with the
> longevity of composite since most bats break in the handles.
>=20
>=20
Full composite bats break at the handles too, but in a different manner.
Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
Common shape of a break in a composite bat. Note the multiple points. CSI
might have trouble identifying the murder weapon if you stabbed someone wit=
h
this. ;-)
http://sportsgazelle.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/broken-bat.jp=
g
On 4/22/2018 3:30 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/22/18 3:08 PM, Markem wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:18:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/21/2018 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>>>>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>>>>
>>>> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to
>>>> young fans in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and
>>>> use them in their sand lot games.
>>>>
>>>> The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They
>>>> give hundreds of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo
>>>> on it. Hundreds of NYC fans, many of them drunk and rowdy.
>>>>
>>>> What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Back when kids/drunk adults were taught to use their heads,
>>> little happened. Now days all bets are off because, one out of a
>>> zillion, will obtain an attorney and we end up where we are today.
>>
>> But then again there was Disco Demolition at Comiskey Park may years
>> ago, A Bill Veck promo gone awry.
>>
>
> Another Bill Veck promo debacle was Dime Beer Night at Cleveland's old
> municipal stadium, which remains the only game in MLB history to be
> forfeited because of unruly fans storming the field.
>
>
LOL... Now that there is funny!
On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:55:27 AM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and=20
> baseballing.
> I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for=
=20
> almost as long.
> I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after=20
> legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
>=20
> Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at=
=20
> a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was=
=20
> responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an=20
> agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
>=20
> Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,=
=20
> here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've=
=20
> because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like=
=20
> Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in=20
> baseball circuits.
>=20
> The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss=20
> it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the gfoogle map=20
> street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.=20
> Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for=
=20
> future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
>=20
> So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick=20
> through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in=
=20
> a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but=
=20
> they are identical in specs/performance.
>=20
> The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took=
=20
> us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place=20
> seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than=20
> double-wide trailers. :-)
>=20
> I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
> I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his=20
> garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his=20
> bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame=
.
>=20
> Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>=20
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>=20
>=20
That sounds like a great experience. Pretty to cool to hear that a "little =
guy" is making a
name for himself.
Your comment about your bat's untimely death, especially at this time of ye=
ar, reminds
me of when my daughter played, and I coached, high school softball. Early s=
pring in=20
Western NY can still be pretty chilly (It's 35=C2=B0 right now) It's common=
for practices and=20
games to be held in mid-50's (or less) weather. It's also not uncommon for =
a fastball to
shatter the composite bats that the girls use these days. Anything below 60=
=C2=B0 and the
girls leave their good bats in their lockers. A shattered composite bat is =
a dangerous
instrument. Multiple sharp jagged points of carbon fiber.
-MIKE- <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> When you go to a game, now, all you see is people with their heads
> buried in their phones.
> It's no wonder people are getting injured from foul balls and broken bats.
> Put your fu@%!ng phone down and watch the game! Experience real life,
> not simulated on a screen!
>
> Notice the phone in the kid's hands.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ixM64cfEecgmQNfj2
And the surprised look on his face.
>
>
On 4/21/2018 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
>>>
>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>
> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
> in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
> sand lot games.
>
> The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They give hundreds
> of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo on it. Hundreds of NYC fans,
> many of them drunk and rowdy.
>
> What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
>
Back when kids/drunk adults were taught to use their heads, little
happened. Now days all bets are off because, one out of a zillion, will
obtain an attorney and we end up where we are today.
On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 11:36:14 PM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 4/21/18 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
> >>>
> >>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
> >>>
> >>
> >> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
> >> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
> >
> > When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
> > in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
> > sand lot games.
> >
> > The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They give hundreds
> > of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo on it. Hundreds of NYC fans,
> > many of them drunk and rowdy.
> >
> > What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
> >
>
> When you go to a game, now, all you see is people with their heads
> buried in their phones.
> It's no wonder people are getting injured from foul balls and broken bats.
> Put your fu@%!ng phone down and watch the game! Experience real life,
> not simulated on a screen!
>
I agree. Leave the phones at home. Attend games at stadiums like this:
http://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0708/18/touchscreen-seat.jpg
or maybe like this:
http://www.mirarena.com.tr/files/.thumbs/projeler/vodafone_arena/900/stadium_seats.jpg
On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 11:13:25 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
> On 4/21/2018 11:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
> >>>
> >>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
> >>>
> >>
> >> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
> >> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
> >
> > When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
> > in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
> > sand lot games.
>
> When I was a kid my best friends uncle was Stan "The Man" Musial. He
> gave me one of his broken bats, which we taped up and tried to use. The
> bat was WAY to big for 10 year olds, and the tape didn't hold up anyway.
> The bat was in my Mom's house for at least 30-40 years and then
> disappeared. Probably could have sold it to Rick Harrison on the Pawn
> Stars show for some cash.
>
> --
> Jack
> Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
> http://jbstein.com
Not apples to apples, but good shape, game used Stan Musial bat with provenance: $13,668.00
https://lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=83611
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:30:12 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 4/20/18 7:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/20/2018 7:00 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>
>>> It's also not uncommon for a fastball to shatter the composite bats
>>> that the girls use these days. Anything below 60° and the girls
>>> leave their good bats in their lockers. A shattered composite bat
>>> is a dangerous instrument. Multiple sharp jagged points of carbon
>>> fiber.
>>>
>>
>> Bats are supposed to be wood!
>
>My old guy league is wood bat, mostly for tradition and player protection.
>I would like to use one of those composite bats in BP sometime just to
>send some over the fence.
>
>They now make wood bats with composite handles, so you get the best of
>both worlds.
>The tradition, true performance, sound and feel of wood, with the
>longevity of composite since most bats break in the handles.
Maple has shown a tendency to splinter into sharp pieces. I have a lot
of bats from 16" softball (no gloves, but broken fingers) aluminum and
ash. Do not play any more as my body minds.
On 4/20/2018 7:00 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> It's also not uncommon for a fastball to
> shatter the composite bats that the girls use these days. Anything below 60° and the
> girls leave their good bats in their lockers. A shattered composite bat is a dangerous
> instrument. Multiple sharp jagged points of carbon fiber.
>
Bats are supposed to be wood!
[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:55:23 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and
>>baseballing.
>>I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for
>>almost as long.
>>I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after
>>legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
>>
>>Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at
>>a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was
>>responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an
>>agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
>>
>>Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,
>>here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've
>>because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like
>>Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in
>>baseball circuits.
>>
>>The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss
>>it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the google map
>>street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.
>>Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for
>>future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
>>
>>So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick
>>through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in
>>a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but
>>they are identical in specs/performance.
>>
>>The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took
>>us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place
>>seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than
>>double-wide trailers. :-)
>>
>>I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
>>I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
>>garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his
>>bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame.
>>
>>Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>>
>><https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>
>
>
> It wasn't all-that-long-ago that bats made of maple
> became common in the big leagues ...
>
> https://canada.sambat.com/pages/about-sam-bat
>
> Another guy who started at his idea - in the garage ..
> gotta love it !
> John T.
>
First time I ever heard of a wedding bat. I think a divorce bat would
be more appropriate.
--
G Ross
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:30:48 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On 4/22/18 3:08 PM, Markem wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:18:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/21/2018 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>>>>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>>>>
>>>> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to
>>>> young fans in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and
>>>> use them in their sand lot games.
>>>>
>>>> The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They
>>>> give hundreds of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo
>>>> on it. Hundreds of NYC fans, many of them drunk and rowdy.
>>>>
>>>> What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Back when kids/drunk adults were taught to use their heads,
>>> little happened. Now days all bets are off because, one out of a
>>> zillion, will obtain an attorney and we end up where we are today.
>>
>> But then again there was Disco Demolition at Comiskey Park may years
>> ago, A Bill Veck promo gone awry.
>>
>
>Another Bill Veck promo debacle was Dime Beer Night at Cleveland's old
>municipal stadium, which remains the only game in MLB history to be
>forfeited because of unruly fans storming the field.
White Sox forfeited the second game, the "fans" okay "Insane Cohos"
who stormed and tore up the field after the blowing up of Disco albums
in center field. Yes alcohol was involved.
On 4/20/18 6:00 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 12:55:27 AM UTC-4, -MIKE- wrote:
>> Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and
>> baseballing.
>> I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for
>> almost as long.
>> I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after
>> legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
>>
>> Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at
>> a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was
>> responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an
>> agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
>>
>> Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,
>> here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've
>> because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like
>> Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in
>> baseball circuits.
>>
>> The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss
>> it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the gfoogle map
>> street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.
>> Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for
>> future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
>>
>> So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick
>> through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in
>> a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but
>> they are identical in specs/performance.
>>
>> The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took
>> us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place
>> seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than
>> double-wide trailers. :-)
>>
>> I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
>> I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
>> garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his
>> bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame.
>>
>> Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>>
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>>
>>
>
> That sounds like a great experience. Pretty to cool to hear that a "little guy" is making a
> name for himself.
>
> Your comment about your bat's untimely death, especially at this time of year, reminds
> me of when my daughter played, and I coached, high school softball. Early spring in
> Western NY can still be pretty chilly (It's 35° right now) It's common for practices and
> games to be held in mid-50's (or less) weather. It's also not uncommon for a fastball to
> shatter the composite bats that the girls use these days. Anything below 60° and the
> girls leave their good bats in their lockers. A shattered composite bat is a dangerous
> instrument. Multiple sharp jagged points of carbon fiber.
>
This spring has been a particularly cold one.
I had middle school game to umpire after the bat factory tour.
I decided I didn't need a long sleeve shirt. Big mistake!
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 4/20/18 7:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/20/2018 7:00 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>> It's also not uncommon for a fastball to shatter the composite bats
>> that the girls use these days. Anything below 60° and the girls
>> leave their good bats in their lockers. A shattered composite bat
>> is a dangerous instrument. Multiple sharp jagged points of carbon
>> fiber.
>>
>
> Bats are supposed to be wood!
My old guy league is wood bat, mostly for tradition and player protection.
I would like to use one of those composite bats in BP sometime just to
send some over the fence.
They now make wood bats with composite handles, so you get the best of
both worlds.
The tradition, true performance, sound and feel of wood, with the
longevity of composite since most bats break in the handles.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 4/20/18 7:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:55:23 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Those that know me know I have 3 loves-- drumming, woodworking, and
>> baseballing.
>> I've played baseball for as long as I can remember and have umpired for
>> almost as long.
>> I recently got into an old guy, wood bat, baseball league named after
>> legendary fictional character, Roy Hobbs.
>>
>> Last summer, my buddy bought me a Louisville Slugger bat when he was at
>> a tour of the factory in KY and he brought it down to me to use. It was
>> responsible for many hits last season, but alas, it suffered an
>> agonizing death in batting practice a couple weeks ago.
>>
>> Little did I know that there's a bat company only an hour away from me,
>> here in TN. The owner just started making bats, years back, and they've
>> because all the rage in professional baseball, including MLB. Guys like
>> Mike Trout and Yasiel Puig are making this company a household name in
>> baseball circuits.
>>
>> The "factory" is literally out in the middle of nowhere and you'd miss
>> it if you blinked. Seriously, Google it and check out the google map
>> street view. It's in a wooded lot, in a couple of large metal sheds.
>> Awesome story and great people working there, just churning out bats for
>> future hall-of-famers..... and me. :-)
>>
>> So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and pick
>> through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws or came in
>> a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about 60-70% off, but
>> they are identical in specs/performance.
>>
>> The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he took
>> us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the whole place
>> seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much bigger than
>> double-wide trailers. :-)
>>
>> I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth!
>> I was also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
>> garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now his
>> bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball hall of fame.
>>
>> Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>>
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>
>
>
> It wasn't all-that-long-ago that bats made of maple
> became common in the big leagues ...
>
> https://canada.sambat.com/pages/about-sam-bat
>
> Another guy who started at his idea - in the garage ..
> gotta love it !
> John T.
>
That's cool, I didn't know about him.
I used ash bats up until discovering maple.
All it took was one solid "POP!" in the cages to make the switch.
A lot of guys still like ash for the flex, but the ball just seem to
jump off of maple.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 4/20/18 1:40 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 10:30:12 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/20/18 7:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 4/20/2018 7:00 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's also not uncommon for a fastball to shatter the composite bats
>>>> that the girls use these days. Anything below 60° and the girls
>>>> leave their good bats in their lockers. A shattered composite bat
>>>> is a dangerous instrument. Multiple sharp jagged points of carbon
>>>> fiber.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Bats are supposed to be wood!
>>
>> My old guy league is wood bat, mostly for tradition and player protection.
>> I would like to use one of those composite bats in BP sometime just to
>> send some over the fence.
>>
>> They now make wood bats with composite handles, so you get the best of
>> both worlds.
>> The tradition, true performance, sound and feel of wood, with the
>> longevity of composite since most bats break in the handles.
>
> Maple has shown a tendency to splinter into sharp pieces. I have a lot
> of bats from 16" softball (no gloves, but broken fingers) aluminum and
> ash. Do not play any more as my body minds.
>
Yes, and that's why I don't use maple drumsticks, anymore.
They just snap and they're gone, with no warning.
Hickory and Oak, on the other hand, will splinter and start to flex a
bit which gives you enough warning to switch sticks between songs.
MLB knew the horses were out of the barn with the danger of Maple bats
flying into the stands and knew the Players Association would never,
ever, consider a ban.
So, the compromise is two-fold.
1. The bats have an ink test on the handle. The ink shows the
direction of the grain. The grain has to be perfectly straight with no
deviation beyond 3 degrees. You will see the ink stain in a clear
diamond on the handle that is forbidden to be painted over. An umpire
can disqualify a bat that has any substance covering that diamond.
2. The started putting the labels at a 45 degree angle to the grain,
instead of 90 degrees.
Tests showed that a Maple bats was more likely to break in two with the
barrel flying into the stands when swung at 90 degrees. Same tests
showed when the bat was held at 45 degrees the bat was more likely to
split and stay together and/or go forward.
The players are *supposed to* hold the bats with the labels up, as
usual. But look closely. Many guys using Maple bats will hold the
label at 45, which put the grain at 90, like they're used to. :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 4/20/18 4:12 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 11:55:27 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
>
>>
>> So my teammate and I went there, today, to tour the factory and
>> pick through the bins of "rejects" that have printing/paint flaws
>> or came in a tiny bit over/under weight. They sell them for about
>> 60-70% off, but they are identical in specs/performance.
>>
>> The woodworker in me was ecstatic about touring the "factory" so he
>> took us on a guided tour. *I put factory in quotes because the
>> whole place seriously fits in a couple metal buildings not much
>> bigger than double-wide trailers. :-)
>>
>> I was very jealous of their dust collection and spray booth! I was
>> also very impressed by the guy who started the company in his
>> garage with a lathe and some hand split pieces of maple. And now
>> his bats are partly responsible for sending guys to the baseball
>> hall of fame.
>>
>> Here's some pictures I took. I should've taken more.
>>
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/ep9LdBqsVquIoVYM2>
>>
>
>
> Looks like a great place to visit. So does he air dry his blanks, or
> does he kiln dry them before putting them on the racks? It's
> interesting he doesn't paint the edges of the blanks to keep them
> from splitting while drying. I wonder what water percentage is the
> sweet spot for his product.
>
No kiln. I don't know about the moisture content, but I'm curious.
Next time I'm there, I'll ask him. There is quite a bit of extra length
on all the blanks, so I'm guessing any checking would be cut off.
Also, one thing that sets him apart is that they split their wood to get
their dowels, whereas many others cut the logs with a bandsaw, like
regular lumber.
Splitting is an old-school technique that I'm glad to see being put to
use in the perfect application for it.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 4/20/2018 4:12 PM, Michael wrote:
...
> Looks like a great place to visit. So does he air dry his blanks, or
> does he kiln dry them before putting them on the racks? It's interesting
> he doesn't paint the edges of the blanks to keep them from splitting
> while drying. I wonder what water percentage is the sweet spot for his
> product.
I'd wager long odds that they're purchased to spec from mill as riven
rough dowels; note the unopened shrink-wrapped bin of blanks to the
right of the orange-tipped blanks in the mostly-used bin...
His FAQ site doesn't say what specific moisture content other than must
be "very dry"; claims over lifetime a maple bat in humid climate of use
may pick up an ounce of so of moisture over leaving-factory weight.
Typical furniture-spec's are something like 7%; I'd guess unlikely much
less; after all, bats are going to be used in locations outdoors or much
like outdoors in mostly warm weather; altho there are locations such as
AZ or S CA, _most_ major league teams are located in areas that are
relatively humid.
Since once the free water is removed, drying below that point requires
air drying in lower humidity or by heat, once removed from the kiln, it
will reacclimate to an equilibrium moisture content (EMC) that is
dependent solely on the RH of the surrounding air (given sufficient
time). The point in finishing furniture is to slow down the changes in
EMC with changing humidity; a finished bat similarly will be slower to
react than a blank.
See Hoadley _Understanding Wood_, Chapt 4 on "Water and Wood" for the
in-depth story...
--
On 4/21/18 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
>>>
>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>
> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
> in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
> sand lot games.
>
> The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They give hundreds
> of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo on it. Hundreds of NYC fans,
> many of them drunk and rowdy.
>
> What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
>
When you go to a game, now, all you see is people with their heads
buried in their phones.
It's no wonder people are getting injured from foul balls and broken bats.
Put your fu@%!ng phone down and watch the game! Experience real life,
not simulated on a screen!
Notice the phone in the kid's hands.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ixM64cfEecgmQNfj2
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
www.mikedrums.com
On 4/21/2018 3:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
...
> 40 + years ago, I took an evening course at a Toronto high school -
> - Woodworking Basics - I think. I bought some rough-cut kiln dried
> boards from a back-home saw-mill - lumber was a side-line for him
> - his main contract was making maple blanks for ... get this ..
> bowling pins and shoe lasts. I swear. He ran 2 fairly large ?
> kilns and in-between jobs - he kept the kilns and himself busy
> with odd-job-lots of lumber. I was quite happy that he would even
> talk to me ! .. let alone sell me a few dozen various boards for
> my new hobby .. the Toronto People were envious - buying their
> finished materials at the local Beaver Lumber. I was happy to use
> the big high-school planer ! for my "ugly" rough cut stuff.
> If I remember correctly :
> : the maple blanks were shipped to the USA for finishing.
> : this guy was ~ the last supplier for these. < 1976 >
> The saw-mill property is now a little subdivision of homes.
> In driving by, now, I just remember the saw-mill ..
> the friendly owner, and the treasures of his lumber piles ..
> .. I still have some scraps of his 1 inch walnut ..
> .. scraps of 2 inch good white pine..
> and my favourite - cherry ! .. wish I'd bought a truckload.
> Cheers ! Ernie Moore !
...
At about ten years earlier I finished uni and moved from SW KS to
Lynchburg, VA; had no idea there was anywhere so much grew so easily! :)
Had taken HS WW shop classes and liked it but hardwoods/furniture-type
lumber there was exceedingly hard to get; the HS shop ordered in a small
supply for student projects at beginning of each year and it was "first
come, first served" to try to pick out something. Was also quite
expensive for the time so had little experience with good materials;
built one small cherry bookshelf and a walnut coffee table for the folks
(the latter still here in the farm house; I don't know what happened to
the shelf when our little house was sold and moved back to town when
parents refurbished grandparents house and moved into it, I guess it was
given away or auctioned; it isn't here any longer.
Anyway, I caught the bug again after a year or so and met another
younger local kid who was just out of HS and making some extra money on
the side turning out decoupage plaques for the then-current fad ans was
selling them through the Davis Paint Co retail store. He had started
running them on a small 1/2" Craftsman spindle shaper by hand; Mr Davis
had been able to sell enough he provided a shop area in the basement of
the building and bankrolled him to buy a larger two-spindle shaper and
PM 180 planer. I met Eddie by answering his ad in the Sunday paper to
buy the old Craftsman shaper. We hit it off well and ended up going in
with him as a side line.
That ended up as a business that was running about 40,000 bd-ft of soft
maple through the shop annually with the primary product being the lifts
and heavy shoe soles for the Craddock-Terry shoe manufacturer there in
Lynchburg. As your acquaintance, with the demise of all shoe
manufacturing in the US, as well as the closing of essentially all of
the NC and VA furniture manufacturing, the markets just went away...
I also met and bought personal-project lumber from a couple (and one in
particular) one-man sawmills that were rampant in the area. The old
codger in particular didn't have a kiln but had piles of anything you
could possibly want stacked in his drying sheds that was anywhere from
10 to as much as 40 yr old since he had initially sawed it.
His primary business was railroad ties and coal mine timbers from oak
and locust; he would get the random cherry, walnut, whatever log
delivered to him that he would set aside and just hold until somebody
came along; hence the stashes. I was buying oak for 100/1000; tree-run
walnut was 150-200; a 8/4 clear 15-ftx12"wide walnut mantle piece might
be all of $3/bd-ft.
Oh, for the days... :)
--
On 4/22/18 3:08 PM, Markem wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:18:50 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/21/2018 10:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single
>>>>> point.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>>>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>>>
>>> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to
>>> young fans in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and
>>> use them in their sand lot games.
>>>
>>> The Mets (and probably other teams) use to have Bat Days. They
>>> give hundreds of fans a miniature (18"?) bat with the team logo
>>> on it. Hundreds of NYC fans, many of them drunk and rowdy.
>>>
>>> What could possibly go wrong? ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Back when kids/drunk adults were taught to use their heads,
>> little happened. Now days all bets are off because, one out of a
>> zillion, will obtain an attorney and we end up where we are today.
>
> But then again there was Disco Demolition at Comiskey Park may years
> ago, A Bill Veck promo gone awry.
>
Another Bill Veck promo debacle was Dime Beer Night at Cleveland's old
municipal stadium, which remains the only game in MLB history to be
forfeited because of unruly fans storming the field.
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On 4/21/2018 11:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
>>>
>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>
>>
>> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>
> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
> in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
> sand lot games.
When I was a kid my best friends uncle was Stan "The Man" Musial. He
gave me one of his broken bats, which we taped up and tried to use. The
bat was WAY to big for 10 year olds, and the tape didn't hold up anyway.
The bat was in my Mom's house for at least 30-40 years and then
disappeared. Probably could have sold it to Rick Harrison on the Pawn
Stars show for some cash.
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Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
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On 4/27/2018 3:40 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 11:13:25 AM UTC-5, Jack wrote:
>> On 4/21/2018 11:18 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>> On Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 3:09:00 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
>>>> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
>>>
>>> When I was a kid the pro teams used to give the cracked bats to young fans
>>> in the stands. They'd take them home, tape them up and use them in their
>>> sand lot games.
>>
>> When I was a kid my best friends uncle was Stan "The Man" Musial. He
>> gave me one of his broken bats, which we taped up and tried to use. The
>> bat was WAY to big for 10 year olds, and the tape didn't hold up anyway.
>> The bat was in my Mom's house for at least 30-40 years and then
>> disappeared. Probably could have sold it to Rick Harrison on the Pawn
>> Stars show for some cash.
>>
>> --
>> Jack
>> Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
>> http://jbstein.com
>
> Not apples to apples, but good shape, game used Stan Musial bat with provenance: $13,668.00
>
> https://lelands.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=83611
>
Neat. Musial gave the bat to his nephew, same as my bat. Mine was
broken though, but it was broken by the man, I assume at a game. Maybe
I should search my mom's house a little harder. My mom probably thew it
out along with my boxes of baseball cards from the 50's...
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Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
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Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On 4/21/2018 10:36 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
>
>>
>> Notice the phone in the kid's hands.
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ixM64cfEecgmQNfj2
>>
>>
> Now you see that right there? That is a lost teaching moment. Had
> dad let the bat pop the kid, an excerpt from the book on School of
> hard Knocks states, the kid would never use his phone at a base ball
> game again.
I don't know about that... There's still plenty of education that can go on
with a close call and some excited talking to.
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:45:24 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 4/20/2018 4:12 PM, Michael wrote:
>...
>
>> Looks like a great place to visit. So does he air dry his blanks, or
>> does he kiln dry them before putting them on the racks? It's interesting
>> he doesn't paint the edges of the blanks to keep them from splitting
>> while drying. I wonder what water percentage is the sweet spot for his
>> product.
>
>I'd wager long odds that they're purchased to spec from mill as riven
>rough dowels; note the unopened shrink-wrapped bin of blanks to the
>right of the orange-tipped blanks in the mostly-used bin...
>
>His FAQ site doesn't say what specific moisture content other than must
>be "very dry"; claims over lifetime a maple bat in humid climate of use
>may pick up an ounce of so of moisture over leaving-factory weight.
>
>Typical furniture-spec's are something like 7%; I'd guess unlikely much
>less; after all, bats are going to be used in locations outdoors or much
>like outdoors in mostly warm weather; altho there are locations such as
>AZ or S CA, _most_ major league teams are located in areas that are
>relatively humid.
>
>Since once the free water is removed, drying below that point requires
>air drying in lower humidity or by heat, once removed from the kiln, it
>will reacclimate to an equilibrium moisture content (EMC) that is
>dependent solely on the RH of the surrounding air (given sufficient
>time). The point in finishing furniture is to slow down the changes in
>EMC with changing humidity; a finished bat similarly will be slower to
>react than a blank.
>
>See Hoadley _Understanding Wood_, Chapt 4 on "Water and Wood" for the
>in-depth story...
40 + years ago, I took an evening course at a Toronto high school -
- Woodworking Basics - I think. I bought some rough-cut kiln dried
boards from a back-home saw-mill - lumber was a side-line for him
- his main contract was making maple blanks for ... get this ..
bowling pins and shoe lasts. I swear. He ran 2 fairly large ?
kilns and in-between jobs - he kept the kilns and himself busy
with odd-job-lots of lumber. I was quite happy that he would even
talk to me ! .. let alone sell me a few dozen various boards for
my new hobby .. the Toronto People were envious - buying their
finished materials at the local Beaver Lumber. I was happy to use
the big high-school planer ! for my "ugly" rough cut stuff.
If I remember correctly :
: the maple blanks were shipped to the USA for finishing.
: this guy was ~ the last supplier for these. < 1976 >
The saw-mill property is now a little subdivision of homes.
In driving by, now, I just remember the saw-mill ..
the friendly owner, and the treasures of his lumber piles ..
.. I still have some scraps of his 1 inch walnut ..
.. scraps of 2 inch good white pine..
and my favourite - cherry ! .. wish I'd bought a truckload.
Cheers ! Ernie Moore !
reading assignment : Luke Baldwins Vow
by Morley Callaghan
John T.
On 4/21/2018 2:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/20/2018 9:29 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>>
>> Common shape of break in a wooden bat. Note the single point.
>>
>> https://sheepy712.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/brokenbat2_485.jpg
>>
>
> Looking at the photo, I'm surprised some nanny group has not tried to
> ban baseball. Too dangerous for children.
First things first. Guns, then bombs, then bats. See?