Yeah! I know the feeling sometimes when I screw up and see that kind of
craftsmanship and look at Planman's work I feel like I'm wastsing my
time and money. But each time I purchase some sort of wood product or
furniture and look at the poor craftsamnship and quality of the product
I feel better and gett the confidence that I can make it better.
Beside's there is no way of knowing if he used a cad system and cnc
machine and how many times and wood wasted to get it right. I would
like to achieve skills on their level but then I bring myself to
reality that I'm just learning and learners make mistakes.
Jason Quick wrote:
> Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>
> I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>
> Jason
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 16:14:14 GMT, "Steve Peterson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>OTOH, did you observe the amount of time that went into these pieces, on
>spec? Apparently, he has other means of support. If he makes a set every
>couple years, he isn't getting rich by woodworking.
If he sells one set every two years that is $60,000 a year. In my book
that is a *very* good living - and for doing something he loves. The
material cost on the two tables probably isn't more than a couple of
thousand, all the cost is in the labor. If I thought I could gross
$60K annually doing woodworking I'd be all over it.
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 02:10:20 GMT, "Clint" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Personally, I sometimes look at the stuff Tom Plamann makes
>(http://www.plamann.com/sys-tmpl/door/), and think about giving up my tools.
>But then I remember that I do this for fun, and as a hobby, and even if I
>never bring a stick of furniture into the house, it's better than going out
>to the bars and casino's... Of course, I've never told SWMBO that last
>bit...
Bars and casinos are cheaper.
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Jason Quick says...
> Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>
> I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>
> Jason
But once everybody sees those pictures, there will be a glut on the used
tool market and there won't be any woodworkers left to buy them.
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] wrote:
>I'm not gonna.
>
>This guy caters to the carriage trade. Personally, I don't like all
>that marquetry. Less is more - do something for an accent, not a
>splashy display like these. They remind me a lot of medieval french
>furnishings that may be found in the king's castle. Not to my taste.
>And if I may judge from the sticker prices on his site, not to very
>many other people's taste either.
Yabbut.... at those prices, you don't need to sell more than a handful of
pieces a year to make a pretty decent living...
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
The furniture is not exactly to my taste either but you've got to respect
the craftmanship. If you can build that, there's not much you can't build.
George Max wrote:
> I'm not gonna.
>
> This guy caters to the carriage trade. Personally, I don't like all
> that marquetry. Less is more - do something for an accent, not a
> splashy display like these. They remind me a lot of medieval french
> furnishings that may be found in the king's castle. Not to my taste.
> And if I may judge from the sticker prices on his site, not to very
> many other people's taste either.
>
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:34:26 -0500, "Jason Quick"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>>
>>http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>>
>>I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>>
>>Jason
>>
> If he sells one set every two years that is $60,000 a year. In my book
> that is a *very* good living - and for doing something he loves. The
> material cost on the two tables probably isn't more than a couple of
> thousand, all the cost is in the labor. If I thought I could gross
> $60K annually doing woodworking I'd be all over it.
>
>
umm... I think you've been quite heartily "tipped off" recently... ?
--
Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking
cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com
not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/
Why? Because you can't make a tacky looking tilt-top table??
Just send your tools to me. I will cover the shipping costs.
"Jason Quick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:120we.36283$DC2.31864@okepread01...
> Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>
> I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>
> Jason
>
In article <120we.36283$DC2.31864@okepread01>,
"Jason Quick" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>
> I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>
> Jason
Funny looking dart boards...no numbers...
In article <[email protected]>,
Fred MacMurray <[email protected]> wrote:
> The furniture is not exactly to my taste either but you've got to respect
> the craftmanship. If you can build that, there's not much you can't build.
>
Poppycock and balderdash. All done with waterjet CNC's, lasers and
CAD/CAM.
.
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.
.
.
.
.
.
.....or not.
In article <[email protected]>,
jo4hn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jason Quick wrote:
>
> > Got this link offa Woodcentral:
> >
> > http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
> >
> > I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
> >
> > Jason
> >
>
> Nah, did one of those with my Sawzall. No sweat.
> j4
Me too...pruning blade, right? Or The "Demolisher"?
Hold it all together with a roofing nailer till the JB Weld dries, right?
Personally, I sometimes look at the stuff Tom Plamann makes
(http://www.plamann.com/sys-tmpl/door/), and think about giving up my tools.
But then I remember that I do this for fun, and as a hobby, and even if I
never bring a stick of furniture into the house, it's better than going out
to the bars and casino's... Of course, I've never told SWMBO that last
bit...
Clint
"Jason Quick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:120we.36283$DC2.31864@okepread01...
> Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>
> I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>
> Jason
>
"Doug Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> wrote:
>>I'm not gonna.
>>
>>This guy caters to the carriage trade. Personally, I don't like all
>>that marquetry. Less is more - do something for an accent, not a
>>splashy display like these. They remind me a lot of medieval french
>>furnishings that may be found in the king's castle. Not to my taste.
>>And if I may judge from the sticker prices on his site, not to very
>>many other people's taste either.
>
> Yabbut.... at those prices, you don't need to sell more than a handful of
> pieces a year to make a pretty decent living...
>
OTOH, did you observe the amount of time that went into these pieces, on
spec? Apparently, he has other means of support. If he makes a set every
couple years, he isn't getting rich by woodworking.
Steve
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
> And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
I'm not gonna.
This guy caters to the carriage trade. Personally, I don't like all
that marquetry. Less is more - do something for an accent, not a
splashy display like these. They remind me a lot of medieval french
furnishings that may be found in the king's castle. Not to my taste.
And if I may judge from the sticker prices on his site, not to very
many other people's taste either.
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:34:26 -0500, "Jason Quick"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>
>http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>
>I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>
>Jason
>
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:51:12 -0700, "AAvK" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If he sells one set every two years that is $60,000 a year. In my book
>> that is a *very* good living - and for doing something he loves. The
>> material cost on the two tables probably isn't more than a couple of
>> thousand, all the cost is in the labor. If I thought I could gross
>> $60K annually doing woodworking I'd be all over it.
>>
>>
>umm... I think you've been quite heartily "tipped off" recently... ?
Huh? Did I miss something?
--
"We need to make a sacrifice to the gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
Gee, Amazon has free shipping. Stoutman isn't being very competitive!
Dave
stoutman wrote:
> Why? Because you can't make a tacky looking tilt-top table??
>
> Just send your tools to me. I will cover the shipping costs.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jason Quick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:120we.36283$DC2.31864@okepread01...
>
>>Got this link offa Woodcentral:
>>
>>http://home.pacbell.net/ebeniste/Html/Table.htm
>>
>>I'm just gonna sell my tools and go fishing, I think.
>>
>>Jason
>>
>
>
>