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"Master Chef Richard Campbell"

02/11/2003 6:37 AM

WWII came in 2nd

Hey everyone,

I have had some surprising results on my Brazilian Cherry flooring ripping
project. I went to my local Woodcraft in Peoria and laid down about $100 and
got a WWII 30T blade. I then went home and I started ripping the flooring.
It went really well for about 3 or 4 boards. On the fifth it started smoking
and burning the board. I took it off and checked for build up but didn't
find any. I was a bit tired and decided to call it a day.

The next day I went over to my inlaws to continue working on their home. I
had to run over to the Woodworking Shop to get a piece of Brazilian Cherry
for the transition into the great room. While I was there I asked about
getting the WWII sharpened. Jason wanted to know what had dulled it up. I
told him about my project. He suggested that I give the Freud Glue Line Rip
Blade a try.

The next morning I was able to rip my entire stack of 30 or so boards with
the Freud Glue Line Rip blade without a trace of smoke. The cuts are are all
glass smooth. I was able to push the wood thru with less effort. And it cost
$40 less.

Chef

BTW I posted pictures of the floor on the alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking



This topic has 19 replies

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

05/11/2003 5:02 PM

LOL... yeah I caught that just before your post.

Seems like 5000 pennies now compare to 500 pennies in the 60's.



Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

05/11/2003 3:15 PM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> So uh.. you would not bother selling a blade for $7 but you would bother
> selling one for $5...??????


Um sorry.... I am not awake yet.. ;~) $50 would make a big difference...
LOL



BR

"Bill Rittner"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 8:58 AM

I'm not surprised. My WWII 40 tooth combination blade burns a lot. Have been
talking to Bob Vandyke, who runs the CT Valley School of WW'ing, and he too
is of the opinion that the WWII is not the best blade for general work. I'm
seriously thinking of selling mine and going to something else.

--
Bill Rittner
R & B ENTERPRISES

[email protected]

"Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
gets out alive" (Unknown)

Remove "no" to reply
"Master Chef Richard Campbell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hey everyone,
>
> I have had some surprising results on my Brazilian Cherry flooring ripping
> project. I went to my local Woodcraft in Peoria and laid down about $100
and
> got a WWII 30T blade. I then went home and I started ripping the flooring.
> It went really well for about 3 or 4 boards. On the fifth it started
smoking
> and burning the board. I took it off and checked for build up but didn't
> find any. I was a bit tired and decided to call it a day.
>
> The next day I went over to my inlaws to continue working on their home. I
> had to run over to the Woodworking Shop to get a piece of Brazilian Cherry
> for the transition into the great room. While I was there I asked about
> getting the WWII sharpened. Jason wanted to know what had dulled it up. I
> told him about my project. He suggested that I give the Freud Glue Line
Rip
> Blade a try.
>
> The next morning I was able to rip my entire stack of 30 or so boards with
> the Freud Glue Line Rip blade without a trace of smoke. The cuts are are
all
> glass smooth. I was able to push the wood thru with less effort. And it
cost
> $40 less.
>
> Chef
>
> BTW I posted pictures of the floor on the
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking
>
>
>

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 10:13 PM


"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:58:36 GMT, "Bob G" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Key word is SELL.... just take the darn thing off the saw and replace it
> >with the blade of your choice...why go to the bother of SELLING it...
just
> >sounds "cheap"
> >
> >Bob Griffiths
>
>
> It's a $100+ blade, not some $7 framing blade for a circular saw.
>
> I'd sell it as well if I wasn't planning on using it.
>
> Barry

I think compromise is in order. Since Bob thinks it is equal to a $7
framing blade in the way it should be handled and not sold and you think it
is a $100+ jewel that should be relished, I have the solution.

I'll pick it up at Bill's house, pay the $7, and promise to treat it like a
valued tool for years to come. He can even come visit in if he wants. I'll
even make the coffee.
Ed
[email protected]
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


md

"mttt"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

03/11/2003 4:31 PM


"Master Chef Richard Campbell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> The next morning I was able to rip my entire stack of 30 or so boards with
> the Freud Glue Line Rip blade without a trace of smoke. The cuts are are
all
> glass smooth. I was able to push the wood thru with less effort. And it
cost

Forrest has a rep for being pretty open. I'd be tempted to zip them off an
email - nothing confrontational, nothing accusatory. Just a "Hi - I got
these results when I expected something else. Since I've invested $xxx in
your product, I'm curious to hear what you think... etc. etc. etc."

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 10:22 PM

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 22:13:22 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:


>I'll pick it up at Bill's house, pay the $7, and promise to treat it like a
>valued tool for years to come. He can even come visit in if he wants. I'll
>even make the coffee.
>Ed


You demonstrate true woodworker's problem solving abilities!

Barry

BR

"Bill Rittner"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 5:56 PM

Yes, but as a possible seller, I can't say too much good about his math :-)

--
Bill Rittner
R & B ENTERPRISES

[email protected]

"Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
gets out alive" (Unknown)

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"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 22:13:22 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> >I'll pick it up at Bill's house, pay the $7, and promise to treat it like
a
> >valued tool for years to come. He can even come visit in if he wants.
I'll
> >even make the coffee.
> >Ed
>
>
> You demonstrate true woodworker's problem solving abilities!
>
> Barry

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

05/11/2003 3:13 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Perhaps a re-read is in order.
>>
>> My take on this was that one wouldn't bother going to the trouble of
>> selling a used $7 blade. But selling a used $100 blade might get you
>> a few worthwhile pennies (say, 5000 of them).

>So uh.. you would not bother selling a blade for $7 but you would bother
>selling one for $5...??????
>
Better check your math, my friend.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Pc

"PM6564"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 3:48 PM


"Bob G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > is of the opinion that the WWII is not the best blade for general work.
> I'm
> > seriously thinking of selling mine and going to something else.
> >
> > --
> > Bill
> =============
> Maybe the above comment hit me wrong this morning BUT I find it
interesting
> that you want to sell the WW11
> aand buy something else...
>
> Key word is SELL.... just take the darn thing off the saw and replace it
> with the blade of your choice...why go to the bother of SELLING it...
just
> sounds "cheap"
>
> Bob Griffiths

Try another cup of coffee. After all, who are you to tell someone what they
can or can't do with their money and property? (Unless this is Hillary
Clinton's alias...)

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 9:43 PM

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 14:58:36 GMT, "Bob G" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Key word is SELL.... just take the darn thing off the saw and replace it
>with the blade of your choice...why go to the bother of SELLING it... just
>sounds "cheap"
>
>Bob Griffiths


It's a $100+ blade, not some $7 framing blade for a circular saw.

I'd sell it as well if I wasn't planning on using it.

Barry

GG

"GeeDubb"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

05/11/2003 8:16 AM


"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Perhaps a re-read is in order.
> >
> > My take on this was that one wouldn't bother going to the trouble of
> > selling a used $7 blade. But selling a used $100 blade might get you
> > a few worthwhile pennies (say, 5000 of them).
> >
> > Renata
> >
>
>
> So uh.. you would not bother selling a blade for $7 but you would bother
> selling one for $5...??????
>
>

Do the math again.

Gary

RR

Renata

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

05/11/2003 10:00 AM

Perhaps a re-read is in order.

My take on this was that one wouldn't bother going to the trouble of
selling a used $7 blade. But selling a used $100 blade might get you
a few worthwhile pennies (say, 5000 of them).

Renata

On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 22:13:22 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>>
>> It's a $100+ blade, not some $7 framing blade for a circular saw.
>>
>> I'd sell it as well if I wasn't planning on using it.
>>
>> Barry
>
>I think compromise is in order. Since Bob thinks it is equal to a $7
>framing blade in the way it should be handled and not sold and you think it
>is a $100+ jewel that should be relished, I have the solution.
>
>I'll pick it up at Bill's house, pay the $7, and promise to treat it like a
>valued tool for years to come. He can even come visit in if he wants. I'll
>even make the coffee.
>Ed
>[email protected]
>http://pages.cthome.net/edhome
>
>

smart, not dumb for email

Ba

B a r r y B u r k e J r .

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

05/11/2003 10:05 PM

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:00:31 -0500, Renata <[email protected]> wrote:

>Perhaps a re-read is in order.
>
>My take on this was that one wouldn't bother going to the trouble of
>selling a used $7 blade. But selling a used $100 blade might get you
>a few worthwhile pennies (say, 5000 of them).

Right!

In fact $50 was exactly what I thought a used WWII might bring.

Barry

md

"mttt"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

04/11/2003 11:31 PM


"Master Chef Richard Campbell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Hi All
>
> I have been contacted by Dave a Forrest and we are going to try to figure
> out what happen. I will let the group know what we figure out.

Great!!!
That's the kind of service after the sale that makes a difference!!!

MC

"Master Chef Richard Campbell"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

04/11/2003 1:06 AM

Hi All

I have been contacted by Dave a Forrest and we are going to try to figure
out what happen. I will let the group know what we figure out.

Chef

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 4:45 PM


"Master Chef Richard Campbell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> The next day I went over to my inlaws to continue working on their home. I
> had to run over to the Woodworking Shop to get a piece of Brazilian Cherry
> for the transition into the great room. While I was there I asked about
> getting the WWII sharpened. Jason wanted to know what had dulled it up. I
> told him about my project. He suggested that I give the Freud Glue Line
Rip
> Blade a try.

Regardless of what you think of your local resaw service, I would suggest
that you send the Forrest back to Forrest for resharpening and to re-true
the blade. I made the mistake of using my local service to resharpen my
Forrest and was not pleased, immediately not pleased with the results. The
local is no common service as they use computer controlled sharpening
machines that recognize each blade as it is resharpened time after time.
Unless your blade runs factory true along with factory sharp, you may not be
seeing the true results of what the Forrest can do. That said, there will
always be a blade that can do something better than most any other blade.

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

05/11/2003 3:12 PM


"Renata" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Perhaps a re-read is in order.
>
> My take on this was that one wouldn't bother going to the trouble of
> selling a used $7 blade. But selling a used $100 blade might get you
> a few worthwhile pennies (say, 5000 of them).
>
> Renata
>


So uh.. you would not bother selling a blade for $7 but you would bother
selling one for $5...??????

BR

"Bill Rittner"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 2:45 PM

You are absolutely right! I am cheap.

We all have our own likes and dislikes. Just because I don't like the WWII
doesn't mean everybody feels the same way. There just might be a fellow
ww'er out there who can't afford a new WWII, but, might be able to afford my
used one.

By your thinking I should take it off of my saw and replace it. Then let it
sit on the shelf to rust? Seems like a damn waste of a tool to me.

--
Bill Rittner
R & B ENTERPRISES

[email protected]

"Don't take this life too seriously.......nobody
gets out alive" (Unknown)

Remove "no" to reply
"Bob G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > is of the opinion that the WWII is not the best blade for general work.
> I'm
> > seriously thinking of selling mine and going to something else.
> >
> > --
> > Bill
> =============
> Maybe the above comment hit me wrong this morning BUT I find it
interesting
> that you want to sell the WW11
> aand buy something else...
>
> Key word is SELL.... just take the darn thing off the saw and replace it
> with the blade of your choice...why go to the bother of SELLING it...
just
> sounds "cheap"
>
> Bob Griffiths
>
>
>
>

BG

"Bob G"

in reply to "Master Chef Richard Campbell" on 02/11/2003 6:37 AM

02/11/2003 2:58 PM

> is of the opinion that the WWII is not the best blade for general work.
I'm
> seriously thinking of selling mine and going to something else.
>
> --
> Bill
=============
Maybe the above comment hit me wrong this morning BUT I find it interesting
that you want to sell the WW11
aand buy something else...

Key word is SELL.... just take the darn thing off the saw and replace it
with the blade of your choice...why go to the bother of SELLING it... just
sounds "cheap"

Bob Griffiths




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