In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
problem.
I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
Thanks in advance,
Chuck
Hello Chuck,
I'm using the Delta 22-760 (similar capacity plus a 30 gallon chip
collector upstream) and I never get any clogging from either the 15
inch planer or 8 inch jointer and these two machines are at the end of
about 30 foot of 4 inch pvc (grounded for you naysayers).
Buying a suitable DC is money well spent. You will not have "the same
problems" and if you get additional hose length and a floor sweep you
will be very pleased how clean your shop will become. Save the shop
vac for your table tops.
Marc
On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, "Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
> problem.
>
> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Chuck
I don't know if your budget is an issue. Ultimately, depending on
your setup a DC system can wrack up a pretty good bill. I've been
running the Harbor Freight 2HP 1550 CFM DC for about 2 years with not
a hitch. I bought the unit on sale for about $150.00 and have been
absolutely satisfied. It's very powerful and runs smoothly. It is
truly a knock off of many of the other units you see with comparable
specs selling for literally twice as much. I don't use the thing
daily, but I do recommend it if budget is an issue. If you search
this group, as I did before I bought mine, you'll likely find that
people consider this to be one of the few excellent deals offered by
Harbor Freight.
On Mar 30, 10:15 pm, "GMoore" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have used a Delta 22-580 for approx. 3yrs. I originally used a 2hp
> bagged dust collector with it. It filled the bags too quickly. Installed a
> "trash can separator" between the planer and the dust collector. This
> worked much better.
>
> The only time I would plug the planner exhaust was if I planned something
> cross grain (you get long stringy type chips).
>
> I currently use a 2+hp cyclone system and it never clogs, even with my 20"
> planner."Doug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, "Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> >> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> >> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> >> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
> >> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
> >> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
> >> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
> >> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
> >> problem.
>
> >> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
> >> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
> >> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
> >> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Chuck
>
> > I don't know if your budget is an issue. Ultimately, depending on
> > your setup a DC system can wrack up a pretty good bill. I've been
> > running the Harbor Freight 2HP 1550 CFM DC for about 2 years with not
> > a hitch. I bought the unit on sale for about $150.00 and have been
> > absolutely satisfied. It's very powerful and runs smoothly. It is
> > truly a knock off of many of the other units you see with comparable
> > specs selling for literally twice as much. I don't use the thing
> > daily, but I do recommend it if budget is an issue. If you search
> > this group, as I did before I bought mine, you'll likely find that
> > people consider this to be one of the few excellent deals offered by
> > Harbor Freight.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
thanks for all your answers. I gues I'm going to havr to save up for a
dc system.
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> it was too much trouble to use.
I use a 22-580 with 4" PVC pipe to a good dust collector. It has NEVER
clogged. I've planed mahogany, oak, pecan, pine, and ash. Never a problem.
Bob
A 1100 CFM unit will pull the chips off a 16" planer in fine fashion.
Jim
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
> problem.
>
> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Chuck
>
chuck,
had the same problem until I got a DC now no clogs. look on criegslist and
local papers for a used one if money is a problem or you can take extremely
light passes in the planner(very very light passes)and continue to use the
shop vac. this will work but you have to put the wood thru a great many
times to get to the result you want.
Len
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
> problem.
>
> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Chuck
>
Do you have a local dealer with a working dust collector? Take the planer
to his store and see what happens. Then if the collector does the job as
expected return the favor and buy the collector from him.
I have the 22-560, basically the same machine just the previous model. Get a
dust collector. Never a clog and 98% chip collection.
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
> problem.
>
> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Chuck
>
I have the same 22-580 planer connected to a Jet 1100 DC. The only time it
has ever clogged is when planing softer woods, and even then it's not often.
If your jointer is throwing dust up, make sure there is not already a clog
up in the chute somewhere. A good 1.5 hp or better DC should prevent any
future problems. --dave
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
> problem.
>
> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Chuck
>
On 28 Mar 2007 12:43:15 -0700, "Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote:
>In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
>the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
>collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
>it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
>run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
>switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
>would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
>that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
>problem.
>
>I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
>from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
>blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
>else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Chuck
Really, get a good DC. Grizzly or Penn State are very good brands.
Get a 1.5 HP or more. A DC moves a lot more air than a shop vac and
you should be using one every time you make dust. Justify the DC cost
by saving your lungs.
"Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
> problem.
>
> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>
Well-known problems, and some perplexing answers. Should be the other way?
Shop vacs work on pressure, DCs on volume. They don't necessarily cross
over at a happy medium. Instead of looking at some HP rating, look at the
flow and the pressure against which the flow is measured when shopping for a
collector. A 13" planer wants to be able to move ~400 CFM to keep up.
You'll need more flow rating if you have a "system" with its leaks and
verticals, less if you connect direct. You also want to drop them into a
can or cyclone, not run them through your impeller.
Heavy cuts make heavy chips, so a shopvac will haul them away better at its
higher vacuum than a DC, but it'll clog like crazy on the volume of material
produced. That's what's important on a planer, that and direction, as I've
discovered. I like the side pickup on mine. When the knives are fresh and
the boards wide, a 13" shaving has difficulty bending into a 4" centered
pickup. That's where some extra vacuum might be nice.
As to a jointer clogging, almost impossible unless you've got an obstruction
under the cutterhead. It's gravity all the way and shavings into a box. No
dust produced. Turn it off, unplug it, run a stick up the chute and rattle
it around to get the clog out of the way. Hard to find a commercial stand
that doesn't allow free drop, but some folks put a collection fitting in the
gravity path anyway. Remove it or use it.
I have used a Delta 22-580 for approx. 3yrs. I originally used a 2hp
bagged dust collector with it. It filled the bags too quickly. Installed a
"trash can separator" between the planer and the dust collector. This
worked much better.
The only time I would plug the planner exhaust was if I planned something
cross grain (you get long stringy type chips).
I currently use a 2+hp cyclone system and it never clogs, even with my 20"
planner.
"Doug" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mar 28, 3:43 pm, "Chuck" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> In an earlier post, someone was asking if anyone had experience with
>> the Delta 22-580 - 13" planer. In my comments, I said that the dust
>> collection port on mine was constantly getting clogged, to the point
>> it was too much trouble to use. This machine makes a huge mess when I
>> run it without collecting the dust. Someone suggested that if I
>> switched from a shop vac to a real dust collection system the problem
>> would probably go away. Does anyone have any comments or advice on
>> that? I'd hate to spend all that money to find I still have the same
>> problem.
>>
>> I also have problems getting the dust / shavings to eject properly
>> from my Delta 37-195 jointer. It seems to be always clogged and
>> blowing all of it shavings back out of the cutter opening. Does anyone
>> else have this problem or any advice on how to correct it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Chuck
>
> I don't know if your budget is an issue. Ultimately, depending on
> your setup a DC system can wrack up a pretty good bill. I've been
> running the Harbor Freight 2HP 1550 CFM DC for about 2 years with not
> a hitch. I bought the unit on sale for about $150.00 and have been
> absolutely satisfied. It's very powerful and runs smoothly. It is
> truly a knock off of many of the other units you see with comparable
> specs selling for literally twice as much. I don't use the thing
> daily, but I do recommend it if budget is an issue. If you search
> this group, as I did before I bought mine, you'll likely find that
> people consider this to be one of the few excellent deals offered by
> Harbor Freight.
>