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26/09/2003 7:46 AM

Crown moulding "ends"

I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?

kitchen wall
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| 5"
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dining room wall


This topic has 9 replies

jb

"js"

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

26/09/2003 3:07 PM

Maybe a decorative block to end it.. a square piece with a flower or
something carved into it, and run the crown into that.

"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
> between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
> the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
> not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
> recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
> Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
> regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>
> kitchen wall
> ________________
> |
> | 5"
> ________________|
>
> dining room wall

JQ

John Quinn

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

26/09/2003 3:59 PM

I would wrap the corner ending the crown molding in the 5" space. On
the piece of molding that will cap the end, you may want to glue on
using a block for support.
John

Rob wrote:

>I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
>between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
>the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
>not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
>recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
>Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
>regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>
>kitchen wall
>________________
> |
> | 5"
>________________|
>
>dining room wall
>
>

DG

"Dan G"

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

27/09/2003 2:46 PM


I think it would look better to build the header.

####################
Keep the whole world singing. . .
Dan G
(remove the 7)


"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
> between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
> the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
> not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
> recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
> Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
> regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>
> kitchen wall
> ________________
> |
> | 5"
> ________________|
>
> dining room wall

SC

Scott Cramer

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

26/09/2003 3:17 PM

On 26 Sep 2003, Rob spake unto rec.woodworking:

> I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
> between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
> the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
> not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
> recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
> Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
> regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?

Make a mitered outside corner at each side of the doorway opening, or make
outside corners that run into the opening, and stop them with another
ouside miter before entering the kitchen. You'll have to glue the small
piece that makes the final outside corner, it will likely split if you try
to nail it.

wv

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

26/09/2003 1:57 PM

[email protected] (Rob) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
> between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
> the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
> not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
> recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
> Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
> regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>
> kitchen wall
> ________________
> |
> | 5"
> ________________|
>
> dining room wall

I think 1 inch in or so would look better.

Rw

Rob

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

27/09/2003 6:00 PM

That crossed my mind too. I still might do that.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:46:13 GMT, "Dan G" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I think it would look better to build the header.
>
>####################
>Keep the whole world singing. . .
>Dan G
>(remove the 7)
>
>
>"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
>> between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
>> the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
>> not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
>> recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
>> Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
>> regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>>
>> kitchen wall
>> ________________
>> |
>> | 5"
>> ________________|
>>
>> dining room wall
>

pP

[email protected] (Phil Crow)

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

26/09/2003 2:21 PM

You can put what I think is called a return on it. Make an "outside"
miter and then cut it at 90 degrees so you have a little
triangle--okay. Let's try this again.

Let's say you're feeding the molding into your miter saw. Turn the
blade to the side 45 degrees and make a cut all the way through the
molding. Feed the molding through one blade width, then make another
cut at 90 degrees. You should have a triangle-shaped piece of molding
such that the 45 degree cut and the 90 degree cut meet at the bottom
(top) of the molding.

Now, just make an outside miter right where you want to end the
molding and take your triangle and stick it in there. The crown
molding essentially "returns" into the wall.

Experts may argue, and if I were you, I'd listen to them. This method
worked for me, though. This treatment is also common for fireplace
mantels, shelves, etc.

Hope this helps.

-Phil Crow

P.S. You are COPING all your corners, right? <G>

[email protected] (Rob) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
> between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
> the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
> not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
> recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
> Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
> regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>
> kitchen wall
> ________________
> |
> | 5"
> ________________|
>
> dining room wall

Rw

Rob

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

27/09/2003 2:27 AM

It looks like my diagram got distorted. Yes basically my question was
do I "return" the moulding in the 5" space or in the kitchen. I will
take the advice given and return the moulding in the 5" space. Thank
you all for your help.

On 26 Sep 2003 14:21:20 -0700, [email protected] (Phil Crow) wrote:

>You can put what I think is called a return on it. Make an "outside"
>miter and then cut it at 90 degrees so you have a little
>triangle--okay. Let's try this again.
>
>Let's say you're feeding the molding into your miter saw. Turn the
>blade to the side 45 degrees and make a cut all the way through the
>molding. Feed the molding through one blade width, then make another
>cut at 90 degrees. You should have a triangle-shaped piece of molding
>such that the 45 degree cut and the 90 degree cut meet at the bottom
>(top) of the molding.
>
>Now, just make an outside miter right where you want to end the
>molding and take your triangle and stick it in there. The crown
>molding essentially "returns" into the wall.
>
>Experts may argue, and if I were you, I'd listen to them. This method
>worked for me, though. This treatment is also common for fireplace
>mantels, shelves, etc.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>-Phil Crow
>
>P.S. You are COPING all your corners, right? <G>
>
>[email protected] (Rob) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>> I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
>> between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
>> the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
>> not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
>> recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
>> Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
>> regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>>
>> kitchen wall
>> ________________
>> |
>> | 5"
>> ________________|
>>
>> dining room wall

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to [email protected] (Rob) on 26/09/2003 7:46 AM

26/09/2003 9:17 PM

I don't completely follow your description, but take a look at the
base moulding. Where the room ends, you could put a crown "return" to
the wall.

On 26 Sep 2003 07:46:41 -0700, [email protected] (Rob) wrote:

>I'm installing crown moulding in the dining room which has an opening
>between the dining room and the kitchen. The opening goes right up to
>the ceiling so I was wondering how I could "end" the moulding. I do
>not want to install crown in the kitchen so does anyone have any
>recommendations where it should end and how the end should look?
>Should I end it between the 2 walls (5" space) or should I make a
>regular corner into the kitchen and end it about 12" in?
>
>kitchen wall
>________________
> |
> | 5"
>________________|
>
>dining room wall


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