PB

Pat Barber

16/12/2008 9:32 PM

The size of angle iron used on Biesemeyer fence

Does anybody happen to know what the size of angle iron
that Biesemeyer uses for the back portion of their fence.

Is it a standard size ?


This topic has 12 replies

LM

"Lee Michaels"

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

17/12/2008 11:26 AM


"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here is the problem:
>
> On my current saw, I built a giant outfeed and side table a few years
> back.
>
> A year or two later I bought a Biesemeyer overhead guard.
>
> That guard has a square bracket that is designed to "wrap" around the
> end corner of the right side table and bolt through the angle that is
> mounted on the back of the saw.
>
> The problem is that I made that side table extra wide and the angle iron
> does not extend far enough over to the end of the table for me to bolt
> the guard on as it was designed.
>
> I have the guard mounted currently with a few hand clamps, but that
> was a "temporary fix" that has been that way for 2-3 years at this point.
>
> I want to "extend" the angle about 12" but I need to know what the
> thickness and size of that angle iron is. I believe it is a industry
> standard
> but they make a LOT of different sizes of angle, so I would prefer to know
> the correct size before I go shopping.
>
> I believe that if I had the correct thickness, a piece of flat plate would
> work for this exercise.
>
> Here is an older picture of the saw and the problem at the back of
> the saw on the side table.
>
> Note the section that doesn't have angle.
>
> http://home.att.net/~mboceanside/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-639331.html
>
>
Two thoughts.

Can you cut away a part of the side table to attach the overhead gaurd?
Will this allow you sufficient room to still use the side table?

If you go shopping for angle iron, can you bring the actual section that
will bolt over it? If so, just bring it along and fit it to what will work.
And if you find something that workes, you could mount this piece numerous
ways. It doesn't necessicarily have to ?extend? the present angle iron.
Just creat a solid base for it.


PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

18/12/2008 4:04 PM

That seems to be the number based on a couple
folks measuring including me.

Thanks..

Hammer Hands wrote:

> I just went and measured mine. The measurements are: 2.5" vertical, 2"
> horizontal and just a hair over 3/16" thick. The thickness without the
> gray powder coating was probably 3/16" exactly.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Steve

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spaco

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

16/12/2008 4:57 PM

Both angles are standard sizes.
The rectangular tube sounds standard, too. The "just short of 1/8 inch"
sounds like 11 gage, at 0.120".

Pete Stanaitis
----------------

Nova wrote:

> Pat Barber wrote:
>
>> Does anybody happen to know what the size of angle iron
>> that Biesemeyer uses for the back portion of their fence.
>>
>> Is it a standard size ?
>
>
> I just when down to the shop and measured.
>
> My Jet Exacta Deluxe Commercial fence (actually made by HTC) which is a
> Biesemeyer clone. The hardware sizes are as follow:
>
> Back rail - 1.5" x 1.5" x 3/16" thick
> Front "L" rail (that the rectangular tubing attaches to) - 2.5" x 2.5" x
> 3/16" thick
> Front rectangular tubing - 2"h x 3"w x just shy of 1/8" thick
>

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

17/12/2008 4:05 PM

Here is the problem:

On my current saw, I built a giant outfeed and side table a few years back.

A year or two later I bought a Biesemeyer overhead guard.

That guard has a square bracket that is designed to "wrap" around the
end corner of the right side table and bolt through the angle that is
mounted on the back of the saw.

The problem is that I made that side table extra wide and the angle iron
does not extend far enough over to the end of the table for me to bolt
the guard on as it was designed.

I have the guard mounted currently with a few hand clamps, but that
was a "temporary fix" that has been that way for 2-3 years at this point.

I want to "extend" the angle about 12" but I need to know what the
thickness and size of that angle iron is. I believe it is a industry
standard
but they make a LOT of different sizes of angle, so I would prefer to know
the correct size before I go shopping.

I believe that if I had the correct thickness, a piece of flat plate
would work for this exercise.

Here is an older picture of the saw and the problem at the back of
the saw on the side table.

Note the section that doesn't have angle.

http://home.att.net/~mboceanside/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-639331.html


Leon wrote:
> "Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Does anybody happen to know what the size of angle iron
>> that Biesemeyer uses for the back portion of their fence.
>>
>> Is it a standard size ?
>
> IIRC it really does not matter. It's sole purpose is to support the
> solid table extension that the fence slides on top of. The fence never
> comes in contact with that rail
>
>

HH

Hammer Hands

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

18/12/2008 6:10 AM

Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote in news:Xpb2l.211637
[email protected]:

> It would appear that the angle iron size
> is 2" x 2.50" x 3/16" but that's a number
> from another guy.
>
> The Biesemeyer site was taken over by Delta
> a while back, so no way to call them and ask.
>
>
>
>
> Leon wrote:
>> Aaaaah OK. I can't help you with that one. Sorry.
>>
>

Pat,

I just went and measured mine. The measurements are: 2.5" vertical, 2"
horizontal and just a hair over 3/16" thick. The thickness without the
gray powder coating was probably 3/16" exactly.

I hope this helps.

Steve

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

17/12/2008 6:20 PM

It would appear that the angle iron size
is 2" x 2.50" x 3/16" but that's a number
from another guy.

The Biesemeyer site was taken over by Delta
a while back, so no way to call them and ask.




Leon wrote:
> Aaaaah OK. I can't help you with that one. Sorry.
>

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

17/12/2008 4:41 PM

The table isn't constructed in a fashion that would
allow me to easily modify it for the guard. That
side table is a basic torsion box.

I agree.. all I need is a piece just long enough to
reach the end of the table BUT it needs to be exactly
the same thickness as the Biesemeyer piece.



Extending the angle is the best possible solution.


Lee Michaels wrote:

> Two thoughts.
>
> Can you cut away a part of the side table to attach the overhead gaurd?
> Will this allow you sufficient room to still use the side table?
>
> If you go shopping for angle iron, can you bring the actual section that
> will bolt over it? If so, just bring it along and fit it to what will work.
> And if you find something that workes, you could mount this piece numerous
> ways. It doesn't necessicarily have to ?extend? the present angle iron.
> Just creat a solid base for it.
>
>
>

cc

coloradotrout

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

16/12/2008 2:05 PM

On Dec 16, 3:32=A0pm, Pat Barber <[email protected]> wrote:
> Does anybody happen to know what the size of angle iron
> that Biesemeyer uses for the back portion of their fence.
>
> Is it a standard size ?

My Jet Xacta back rail is 1.5" x 1.5"
front is 2.5" x 2.5"

I'm sure they are standard angle iron sizes.. so yes, you could make
your own :-)

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

17/12/2008 10:50 AM

Aaaaah OK. I can't help you with that one. Sorry.

"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Here is the problem:
>
> On my current saw, I built a giant outfeed and side table a few years
> back.
>
> A year or two later I bought a Biesemeyer overhead guard.
>
> That guard has a square bracket that is designed to "wrap" around the
> end corner of the right side table and bolt through the angle that is
> mounted on the back of the saw.
>
> The problem is that I made that side table extra wide and the angle iron
> does not extend far enough over to the end of the table for me to bolt
> the guard on as it was designed.
>
> I have the guard mounted currently with a few hand clamps, but that
> was a "temporary fix" that has been that way for 2-3 years at this point.
>
> I want to "extend" the angle about 12" but I need to know what the
> thickness and size of that angle iron is. I believe it is a industry
> standard
> but they make a LOT of different sizes of angle, so I would prefer to know
> the correct size before I go shopping.
>
> I believe that if I had the correct thickness, a piece of flat plate would
> work for this exercise.
>
> Here is an older picture of the saw and the problem at the back of
> the saw on the side table.
>
> Note the section that doesn't have angle.
>
> http://home.att.net/~mboceanside/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-639331.html
>
>
> Leon wrote:
>> "Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Does anybody happen to know what the size of angle iron
>>> that Biesemeyer uses for the back portion of their fence.
>>>
>>> Is it a standard size ?
>>
>> IIRC it really does not matter. It's sole purpose is to support the
>> solid table extension that the fence slides on top of. The fence never
>> comes in contact with that rail

PB

Pat Barber

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

17/12/2008 4:09 PM

I didn't realize that I had a slightly more
updated picture of the saw with the guard
"installed" as I have it today.

You can barely see the clamps that are currently
holding the guard to the table.

http://home.att.net/~mboceanside/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-773467.html

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

16/12/2008 5:05 PM


"Pat Barber" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Does anybody happen to know what the size of angle iron
> that Biesemeyer uses for the back portion of their fence.
>
> Is it a standard size ?

IIRC it really does not matter. It's sole purpose is to support the
solid table extension that the fence slides on top of. The fence never
comes in contact with that rail

Nn

Nova

in reply to Pat Barber on 16/12/2008 9:32 PM

16/12/2008 10:11 PM

Pat Barber wrote:
> Does anybody happen to know what the size of angle iron
> that Biesemeyer uses for the back portion of their fence.
>
> Is it a standard size ?

I just when down to the shop and measured.

My Jet Exacta Deluxe Commercial fence (actually made by HTC) which is a
Biesemeyer clone. The hardware sizes are as follow:

Back rail - 1.5" x 1.5" x 3/16" thick
Front "L" rail (that the rectangular tubing attaches to) - 2.5" x 2.5" x
3/16" thick
Front rectangular tubing - 2"h x 3"w x just shy of 1/8" thick

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]


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