RH

"Rob H."

18/11/2010 4:20 AM

What is it? Set 363

Just posted a new set on the web site:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


This topic has 34 replies

TS

Ted Schuerzinger

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:05 AM

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:20:20 -0500, Rob H. wrote:

> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2089: Stereoscope for three-eyed people
2090: Tweezers
2091: Paddles for kinky group sex orgies
2092: Keyring being used for something else
2093: Top of a walking stick
2094: Magnetic disks

OK, I really have no idea on any of these.

--
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fedya at hughes dot net
Now blogging at http://justacineast.blogspot.com

YY

"Y"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:02 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


2091 Piano Keys
2092 Thumb Cuffs

Y.

FM

F Murtz

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:47 PM

Rob H. wrote:
> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob


2092 thumb cuffs.
2093 Plumb bob or top?

FM

F Murtz

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:49 PM

F Murtz wrote:
> Rob H. wrote:
>> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 2092 thumb cuffs.
> 2093 Plumb bob or top?
Oops did not see Ys answer.

Ds

Dave__67

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 4:54 AM

On Nov 18, 4:20=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2091- piano pedals
2092- thumb cuffs


Dave

DB

"Dave Baker"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 1:05 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2089 appears to be a triple barreled gun, apparently designed to be mounted
on a wooden shaft.
--
Dave Baker

aa

"anorton"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 11:46 AM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob

2093 looks something like a tektite. These are pieces of glassy material
melted and ejected at supersonic speed by a meteorite impact. fairly rare.

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 7:46 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Lloyd
E. Sponenburgh" says...
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > I don't think it is a plumb
> > bob because it doesn't have a well centered hole for connecting a
> > string. The bronze cone shaped end appears to have been poured into
> > the body and has minor etching as if were turned on a hand lathe. The
> > base material is almost like petrified wood.
>
> Rob, I'm tellin' you, it's a "topsy turvey". I've owned 'em. They have
> various wooden bodies and good ones always had metal spindles. Usually,
> they were pressed in rather than poured, but who knows what evil lurks in
> the hearts of real "metal men"?

The modern version is called a "tippe top", and it's one piece of molded
plastic. Google that and you'll find some videos of them in operation
(including one in very slow motion) and plans for making a wooden one.

Bk

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 2:46 PM

On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:20:20 -0500, Rob H. wrote:

2090 - Look like soldering tweezers, but the type I've used had a
sliding lock on the handles
--
Email address is a Spam trap.

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 7:22 AM

> On Nov 18, 4:20ÿam, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Rob
>

2093 appears to be a "topsie turvey". It's a toy top that is spun with the
fat end down. Then by precession, it erects itself to spin on the spindle
point.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:14 PM

"Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
news:[email protected]:

> I don't think it is a plumb
> bob because it doesn't have a well centered hole for connecting a
> string. The bronze cone shaped end appears to have been poured into
> the body and has minor etching as if were turned on a hand lathe. The
> base material is almost like petrified wood.

Rob, I'm tellin' you, it's a "topsy turvey". I've owned 'em. They have
various wooden bodies and good ones always had metal spindles. Usually,
they were pressed in rather than poured, but who knows what evil lurks in
the hearts of real "metal men"?

LLoyd

Ja

John

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

22/11/2010 5:44 AM

Rob H. wrote:
>
>>> They aren't tweezers but are used when making cars or planes or when
>>> working
>>> with sheet metal.
>>
>> For aligning holes in sheet metal prior to riveting?
>>
>> Clecos would be better, but perhaps to reach an awkward place?
>
>
> I couldn't find a tool exactly like it on the web, the closest that I
> found was this patent for a similar tool:
>
> http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=hMwZAAAAEBAJ&dq=5175940
>
>
> Rob


Rob

Here is a home made version of a hole finder. There are commercial
devices similar to the one here. They come in standard sizes to
transfer hole position to overlapping sheet metal. I have a full set
for standard rivet sizes up to 1/4 inch holes.


http://www.zenith.aero/forum/topics/rivet-hole-finder-you-can?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A6972


John

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:02 AM


"Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>>>
>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> 2089 appears to be a triple barreled gun, apparently designed to be
>> mounted on a wooden shaft.
>
> Chinese pole cannon says Google.
>
> Just found this video of a modern replica of something almost identical
> being fired.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PtYNb9j2bg
> --
> Dave Baker
>

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:03 AM


"Y" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
>
> 2091 Piano Keys
> 2092 Thumb Cuffs
>
> Y.
>

These are both correct.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:06 AM

>>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> 2089 appears to be a triple barreled gun, apparently designed to be
>> mounted on a wooden shaft.
>
> Chinese pole cannon says Google.
>
> Just found this video of a modern replica of something almost identical
> being fired.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PtYNb9j2bg
> --
> Dave Baker


Thanks, that's a great link, I hadn't seen one of these in action before.

I accidentally hit send on my previous answer, sorry about the inadvertent
post.


Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 9:36 AM

2089 boat whistle, powered by the steam from the steam engine. The
valve, and rope is missing.
2090, I may get a d'uh award for saying it's a set of tweezers. For
some specialized purpose, unknown to me.
2091. My first thought is keys from an old piano. Who can tell?
2092 Resembles a pair of thumbcuffs I bought, years ago.
2093. No clue.
2094. Maybe a drink coaster set for travelling people.


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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Just posted a new set on the web site:

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Rob

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Bill

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 4:42 PM

anorton wrote:
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2093 looks something like a tektite. These are pieces of glassy material
> melted and ejected at supersonic speed by a meteorite impact. fairly rare.

Either that or it fell of the top of an old fence! ; )

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 6:22 PM


> 2094) Dashboard mounting for some portable electronic device like
> perhaps a cell phone or a GPS?


Good guess! It's for use with a cell phone.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 6:28 PM


"F Murtz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rob H. wrote:
>> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>


> 2093 Plumb bob or top?


Here is the owner's description of it:

It was found near the Guyandotte River, in Huntington W.Va. It came out of
soil removed by an auger digging a traffic signal pole foundation. The
foundation was about 40ft from the river's edge. I don't think it is a plumb
bob because it doesn't have a well centered hole for connecting a string.
The bronze cone shaped end appears to have been poured into the body and has
minor etching as if were turned on a hand lathe. The base material is almost
like petrified wood.


sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 11:30 PM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
2091 -- keys for the lower (foot-operated) keyboard for a pipe organ

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 7:40 AM


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I don't think it is a plumb
>> bob because it doesn't have a well centered hole for connecting a
>> string. The bronze cone shaped end appears to have been poured into
>> the body and has minor etching as if were turned on a hand lathe. The
>> base material is almost like petrified wood.
>
> Rob, I'm tellin' you, it's a "topsy turvey". I've owned 'em. They have
> various wooden bodies and good ones always had metal spindles. Usually,
> they were pressed in rather than poured, but who knows what evil lurks in
> the hearts of real "metal men"?
>
> LLoyd


It could be a top, that was one of my guesses when I first saw it, but then
I showed it to some top collectors and none of them thought it was one. I
just sent an email to the owner asking him to spin it upside down and see if
it works like you suggest.

Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 7:48 AM


"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:20:20 -0500, Rob H. wrote:
>
> 2090 - Look like soldering tweezers, but the type I've used had a
> sliding lock on the handles



They aren't tweezers but are used when making cars or planes or when working
with sheet metal.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 9:17 AM

> Rob, I'm tellin' you, it's a "topsy turvey". I've owned 'em. They have
> various wooden bodies and good ones always had metal spindles. Usually,
> they were pressed in rather than poured, but who knows what evil lurks in
> the hearts of real "metal men"?
>
> LLoyd


Just heard back from the owner concerning the possibility of number 2093
being a top or plumb bob:

It will not spin at all, it is too top heavy no matter if you start it with
bronze tip down or up. It has no evidence of being attached to a string or
chain. There is a small indention on the top but it is not centered which
would be required for a plumb bob. It looks more like a small fragment that
has chipped out. The casting is somewhat crude and would not provide precise
balancing for a top. This area had a French settlement in 1750, Henry
Guyan, a trader used the river for fur trading.

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 2:33 PM

On 11/19/10 9:17 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> Rob, I'm tellin' you, it's a "topsy turvey". I've owned 'em. They have
>> various wooden bodies and good ones always had metal spindles. Usually,
>> they were pressed in rather than poured, but who knows what evil lurks in
>> the hearts of real "metal men"?
>>
>> LLoyd
>
>
> Just heard back from the owner concerning the possibility of number 2093
> being a top or plumb bob:
>
> It will not spin at all, it is too top heavy no matter if you start it
> with bronze tip down or up. It has no evidence of being attached to a
> string or chain. There is a small indention on the top but it is not
> centered which would be required for a plumb bob. It looks more like a
> small fragment that has chipped out. The casting is somewhat crude and
> would not provide precise balancing for a top. This area had a French
> settlement in 1750, Henry Guyan, a trader used the river for fur trading.

How about a compass to trade to Indians? No expensive, easily damaged
glass, case, or card. Just this hand-held pivot to go with a magnetized
pointer.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 5:21 PM


> How about a compass to trade to Indians? No expensive, easily damaged
> glass, case, or card. Just this hand-held pivot to go with a magnetized
> pointer.


The owner said that the metal is bronze but I don't know if he tested it
with a magnet to make sure.

No answer yet for this one but answers for the rest of the set have been
posted:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/11/set-363.html#answers


Rob

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 7:53 PM

On 11/19/10 5:21 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
>> How about a compass to trade to Indians? No expensive, easily damaged
>> glass, case, or card. Just this hand-held pivot to go with a
>> magnetized pointer.
>
>
> The owner said that the metal is bronze but I don't know if he tested it
> with a magnet to make sure.
>
>
Because I read it's bronze, I thought it could make a good compass
pivot. If it were steel, it could pick up magnetism when kept in a
pouch with the pointer. That would be bad.
Bronze would be immune to magnetism and I suppose corrosion. If the
point got dull, I guess a woodsman could hone it sharp for minimum friction.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

19/11/2010 8:18 PM


"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 11/19/10 5:21 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>
>>> How about a compass to trade to Indians? No expensive, easily damaged
>>> glass, case, or card. Just this hand-held pivot to go with a
>>> magnetized pointer.
>>
>>
>> The owner said that the metal is bronze but I don't know if he tested it
>> with a magnet to make sure.
>>
>>
> Because I read it's bronze, I thought it could make a good compass pivot.
> If it were steel, it could pick up magnetism when kept in a pouch with the
> pointer. That would be bad.
> Bronze would be immune to magnetism and I suppose corrosion. If the point
> got dull, I guess a woodsman could hone it sharp for minimum friction.


I see what you mean now, apparently I didn't read your post closely enough
the first time. I'll pass this idea on to the owner, your compass theory is
reasonable but will probably be difficult to prove one way or the other,
which is also the case for most of the other guesses it. I don't think
we'll get an answer for this one but I hope someone proves me wrong.


Rob

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

20/11/2010 1:05 AM

On 11/19/10 8:18 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>
> "J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 11/19/10 5:21 PM, Rob H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> How about a compass to trade to Indians? No expensive, easily damaged
>>>> glass, case, or card. Just this hand-held pivot to go with a
>>>> magnetized pointer.
>>>
>>>
>>> The owner said that the metal is bronze but I don't know if he tested it
>>> with a magnet to make sure.
>>>
>>>
>> Because I read it's bronze, I thought it could make a good compass
>> pivot. If it were steel, it could pick up magnetism when kept in a
>> pouch with the pointer. That would be bad.
>> Bronze would be immune to magnetism and I suppose corrosion. If the
>> point got dull, I guess a woodsman could hone it sharp for minimum
>> friction.
>
>
> I see what you mean now, apparently I didn't read your post closely
> enough the first time. I'll pass this idea on to the owner, your compass
> theory is reasonable but will probably be difficult to prove one way or
> the other, which is also the case for most of the other guesses it. I
> don't think we'll get an answer for this one but I hope someone proves
> me wrong.
>
>
> Rob

Maybe I could make a prototype to try. A nonmagnetic pivot should be
easy. The pointer would be steel hard enough to magnetize. I'd make a
dimple in the middle with a drill or a punch and bend the ends down
enough so the center of gravity would be lower than the dimple.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

21/11/2010 11:58 AM


>> They aren't tweezers but are used when making cars or planes or when
>> working
>> with sheet metal.
>
> For aligning holes in sheet metal prior to riveting?
>
> Clecos would be better, but perhaps to reach an awkward place?


I couldn't find a tool exactly like it on the web, the closest that I found
was this patent for a similar tool:

http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=hMwZAAAAEBAJ&dq=5175940


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

22/11/2010 6:54 PM

> Here is a home made version of a hole finder. There are commercial
> devices similar to the one here. They come in standard sizes to transfer
> hole position to overlapping sheet metal. I have a full set for standard
> rivet sizes up to 1/4 inch holes.
>
>
> http://www.zenith.aero/forum/topics/rivet-hole-finder-you-can?commentId=2606393%3AComment%3A6972
>
>
> John


Looks like a good idea, thanks for the link!


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

22/11/2010 7:02 PM


>> I see what you mean now, apparently I didn't read your post closely
>> enough the first time. I'll pass this idea on to the owner, your compass
>> theory is reasonable but will probably be difficult to prove one way or
>> the other, which is also the case for most of the other guesses it. I
>> don't think we'll get an answer for this one but I hope someone proves
>> me wrong.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> Maybe I could make a prototype to try. A nonmagnetic pivot should be
> easy. The pointer would be steel hard enough to magnetize. I'd make a
> dimple in the middle with a drill or a punch and bend the ends down enough
> so the center of gravity would be lower than the dimple.


The compass idea reminds me of the prisoner-of-war compasses that I posted a
while ago, one was made to look like a pen clip and I think the other was
just a small bent piece of metal like you describe. I'm sure the item in
question would function as a pivot but I wouldn't bet any money on that
answer. ;^)


Rob

DB

"Dave Baker"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 1:10 PM


"Dave Baker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>
> 2089 appears to be a triple barreled gun, apparently designed to be
> mounted on a wooden shaft.

Chinese pole cannon says Google.

Just found this video of a modern replica of something almost identical
being fired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PtYNb9j2bg
--
Dave Baker

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

18/11/2010 10:59 PM

On 2010-11-18, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just posted a new set on the web site:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2089) A three-shot percussion cannon which would mount on the end
of a long pole for repelling attackers. You can stick it
between crenelations on a castle wall or between defenders
using edged weapons, hit the percussion cap on the upper-most
barrel to fire it, then rotate it to bring the next barrel into
line.

Not sure whether it fires ball or shot given the size of the
bore. (Looks like about an inch bore. :-)

2090) Tweezers for manipulating a spring in repair of something.
Looks a bit large to be part of the typewriter repair tool
collection -- but something similar.

2091) Looks like damper levers from a disassembled piano.

2092) Thumb cuffs? (Handcuffs to go around the captive's thumbs.

2093) Possibly glass formed from sand by a lightning strike?
Usually it branches out -- but if the ground is quite wet
it *might* form something like this.

2094) Dashboard mounting for some portable electronic device like
perhaps a cell phone or a GPS?

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 18/11/2010 4:20 AM

20/11/2010 1:43 AM

On 2010-11-19, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:20:20 -0500, Rob H. wrote:
>>
>> 2090 - Look like soldering tweezers, but the type I've used had a
>> sliding lock on the handles
>
>
>
> They aren't tweezers but are used when making cars or planes or when working
> with sheet metal.

For aligning holes in sheet metal prior to riveting?

Clecos would be better, but perhaps to reach an awkward place?

Enjoy,
DoN.

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