JJ

22/05/2007 10:25 PM

Anyone Here Use One Of These? Nail Extractor

http://www.nailextractor.com/

I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan


This topic has 21 replies

Gj

GROVER

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 9:46 AM

On May 22, 10:25 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
> for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
> pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
> So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
> on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
> welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
> close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan

There exists an older version of the Jefferson extracting pliers. It
is manufactured by Crescent (part of the Cooper Group). It is Crescent
catalog number 56 and called Sure Grip. Its got a pair of jaws to grip
the nail, a slide hammer and a curved lever. The slide hammer serves
to set the jaws below the surface of the wood. Its long enough to pull
out even stubborn customers.It seems to still be available and is
shown on Crescent's web site.
Joe G

JJ

in reply to GROVER on 23/05/2007 9:46 AM

23/05/2007 7:08 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 9:46am (EDT-3) [email protected] (GROVER) doth
sayeth:
There exists an older version of the Jefferson extracting pliers. It is
manufactured by Crescent (part of the Cooper Group). It is Crescent
catalog number 56 and called Sure Grip. Its got a pair of jaws to grip
the nail, a slide hammer and a curved lever. The slide hammer serves to
set the jaws below the surface of the wood. Its long enough to pull out
even stubborn customers.It seems to still be available and is shown on
Crescent's web site.

Heh heh. Got it covered. I've got that tool. Except mine's
probably around 80 or more years old. Don't recall who made it (it's
out in the shop), but it did cost me quite a bit less, postage included,
and works aw well, or possibly better than a new one - mine's probably
higher quality and heavier.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

no

norman

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 2:56 PM

On 23 May, 03:25, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
> for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
> pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
> So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
> on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
> welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
> close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan

I've been using one of these for years.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=23023&name=nail+puller&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=0
Pricier than your example, but very efficient. It's got a sort of
hammer action and a "beak" so it'll grip nails just at or below the
surface. Ideal for pallets or reclaimed timber etc.

cheers
Jacob

ss

"scouter3"

in reply to norman on 23/05/2007 2:56 PM

23/05/2007 8:03 PM

"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Wed, May 23, 2007, 2:56pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (norman) doth
> sayeth:
> I've been using one of these for years.
> http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=23023&name=nail+puller&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=0
> Pricier than your example, but very efficient. It's got a sort of hammer
> action and a "beak" so it'll grip nails just at or below the surface.
> Ideal for pallets or reclaimed timber etc.
>
> Yep, a modern version of the antique model I already mentioned. I
> don't find it so expecially "idal" for pallets tho. I tend to break
> about every pallet nail with it.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan
>

Hi JT,

You've probably heard of this method but I will share it anyway in case
onyone else hasn't tried it.

I've given up on trying to pull pallet nails.

If there is a piece of wood on a pallet that I particularly covet, I just
center punch the heads of the nails and drill them. The head pops off like a
washer and I pry the board up off the nails.

The remaining stretchers on the pallet with all of the now headless nails
get cut up and help to heat my shop. A magnet through the ashes retrieves
the nails which go into the metal recycling bucket.

I am remembering a pallet that came into the shop one day from our plant in
the Philippines, with a bunch of pumps for testing. I asked the boss if I
could have the pallet and he said sure.

It was all Mahogany...

For stubborn nails I use an old pair of long (about 18") end nippers to pry
it out. I don't squeeze enough to break or cut the nail. I also have an
antique nail puller like yours and a cool little tool that my daughter
bought me years ago called a tweaker. There never seems to be enough tools
in my shop for this sort of thing. I guess I'll have to go find this new
nail puller and get a look at it...

--
Lloyd Baker

JJ

in reply to norman on 23/05/2007 2:56 PM

23/05/2007 7:16 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 2:56pm (EDT-3) [email protected] (norman) doth
sayeth:
I've been using one of these for years.
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=23023&name=nail+puller&user_search=1&sfile=1&jump=0
Pricier than your example, but very efficient. It's got a sort of hammer
action and a "beak" so it'll grip nails just at or below the surface.
Ideal for pallets or reclaimed timber etc.

Yep, a modern version of the antique model I already mentioned. I
don't find it so expecially "idal" for pallets tho. I tend to break
about every pallet nail with it.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

ss

spaco

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 10:33 AM

I have used regular nail pullers for years, like this one:

> www.gp.lib.mi.us

Note that the ad for the one you are asking about says ---for EXPOSED
nails. That's the problem, as I see it. Nails usually are NOT exposed,
including most of the nails I have ever seen in a pallet.

You will be MILES ahead to buy the one like in the link above. Yes, they
will bend the nail some, but the fulcrum is farther away from the claw
than the one in your ad, so you will be less likely to break a nail. If
breaking nails becomes a problem, add blocking under the fulcrum point
as you extract the nail. Most good hardware stores have these.

Pete Stanaitis
-------------------------------


J T wrote:
> http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
> for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
> pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
> So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
> on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
> welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
> close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan
>

JJ

in reply to spaco on 23/05/2007 10:33 AM

23/05/2007 6:47 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 10:33am (EDT-1) [email protected] (spaco)
sayeth:
I have used regular nail pullers for years, like this one:
www.gp.lib.mi.us <snip>

Dunno what you get when you use that link, but I get the Grosse
Pointe Public Library.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

En

"EXT"

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 12:31 PM

Got one, it works great, especially when reclaiming mouldings. It really
pays for itself in removing nails from the back of mouldings so that the
pricey moulding is undamaged. Prior to this I used ViceGrips to pull the
nails but I would have to clamp onto each nail then insert a piece of metal
under the grips to lever the nails out -- very clumsy -- then you had to
unclamp the grips to release the nail. My old hands would complain about the
workout, so I tried the new item.

"J T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
> for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
> pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
> So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
> on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
> welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
> close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan
>

JJ

in reply to "EXT" on 23/05/2007 12:31 PM

23/05/2007 7:00 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 12:31pm [email protected] (EXT) doth
sayeth:
Got one, it works great, especially when reclaiming mouldings. It really
pays for itself in removing nails from the back of mouldings so that the
pricey moulding is undamaged. Prior to this I used ViceGrips to pull the
nails but I would have to clamp onto each nail then insert a piece of
metal under the grips to lever the nails out -- very clumsy -- then you
had to unclamp the grips to release the nail. My old hands would
complain about the workout, so I tried the new item.

Hah! Just the type of info I was after. I would like to fondle
one first, but now am seriously pondering getting one, just need to find
the best price. Thanks.

I know just what you mean about the hands.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

Mm

Markem

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 10:13 AM

On Tue, 22 May 2007 22:25:45 -0400, [email protected] (J T)
wrote:

>http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
>for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
>pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
>So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
>on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
>welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
>close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.

Generally I grab a pair of channel locks.

Mark
(sixoneeight) = 618

JJ

in reply to Markem on 23/05/2007 10:13 AM

23/05/2007 6:42 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 10:13am (EDT-1) [email protected] (Markem) sayeth:
Generally I grab a pair of channel locks.

Besides never having much success pulling nails with channel locks,
now it would hurt my hands too much to even try.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

Ss

Steve

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 2:59 AM

[email protected] (J T) wrote on 22 May 2007 in group
rec.woodworking:

> http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
> for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
> pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
> So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
> on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
> welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
> close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.
>
> JOAT

If you turn your slip-joint pliers around, you'll find that the profile on
the outside of the jaws almost exactly matches the nice arc on that tool.

The only downside is that the slip-joint pliers will bend the nail some
before they start pulling, so hard nails sometimes break off. I also get a
little marking in the wood, avoided by putting a putty knife underneath. I
bet the purpose-built tool does that too, though.
--
Steve B.
New Life Home Improvement

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to Steve on 23/05/2007 2:59 AM

23/05/2007 9:30 AM

J T wrote:
>
> At times s hail head pulls off. Sometimes you can jam a claw
> hammer on and pull it, sometimes not. This thing looks like it might be
> able to get a good grip, keep it, and pull a headless nail. According
> to their hype it should anyway. So, again, I want to hear from anyone
> here that's tried one, and what they think of it.
>
> What I'd really like is soee sort of nail puller that will pull a
> pallet nail straight out, without breaking it, regardless if the nail
> head stays on, or not. Hmm, even as I type this, details of a Rube
> Goldbergish hydraulic pallet nail puller appear in my mind. Hmm, I've
> got some scrap metal, now if I can just talk whichever kid has te welder
> to bring it home for awhile, I'll pickup a small bottle jack and start.
> I've already got some yellow paint too.

http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/show/nail_puller.html

R

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to RicodJour on 23/05/2007 9:30 AM

23/05/2007 5:11 PM

On May 23, 6:49 pm, [email protected] (J T) wrote:
> Wed, May 23, 2007, 9:30am (EDT-3) [email protected] (RicodJour)
> did posteth thusly:http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/show/nail_puller.html
>
> Neat. Lend me $90 so I can buy it.

They pop up on eBay periodically, and usually sell for far less. And,
no, I won't lend you "far less" either. :)~

R

JJ

in reply to RicodJour on 23/05/2007 9:30 AM

23/05/2007 6:49 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 9:30am (EDT-3) [email protected] (RicodJour)
did posteth thusly:
http://jonzimmersantiquetools.com/show/nail_puller.html

Neat. Lend me $90 so I can buy it.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

JJ

in reply to Steve on 23/05/2007 2:59 AM

23/05/2007 2:15 AM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 2:59am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Steve) sayeth:
If you turn your slip-joint pliers around, you'll find that the profile
on the outside of the jaws almost exactly matches the nice arc on that
tool.
The only downside is that the slip-joint pliers will bend the nail some
before they start pulling, so hard nails sometimes break off. I also get
a little marking in the wood, avoided by putting a putty knife
underneath. I bet the purpose-built tool does that too, though.

Yeah, but ff I use my antique version of this,
http://www.smithfrancistools.co.uk/Default.asp?Page=41 or a hammer, or
flat nail puller, I won't need to mess around with slip-joint pliers -
which don't work for anything but small nails or brads anyway.

At times s hail head pulls off. Sometimes you can jam a claw
hammer on and pull it, sometimes not. This thing looks like it might be
able to get a good grip, keep it, and pull a headless nail. According
to their hype it should anyway. So, again, I want to hear from anyone
here that's tried one, and what they think of it.

What I'd really like is soee sort of nail puller that will pull a
pallet nail straight out, without breaking it, regardless if the nail
head stays on, or not. Hmm, even as I type this, details of a Rube
Goldbergish hydraulic pallet nail puller appear in my mind. Hmm, I've
got some scrap metal, now if I can just talk whichever kid has te welder
to bring it home for awhile, I'll pickup a small bottle jack and start.
I've already got some yellow paint too.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

GR

Gerald Ross

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 7:16 AM

J T wrote:
> http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
> for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
> pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
> So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
> on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
> welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
> close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
> humiliations?
> - Peter Egan
>
My brother has one. When he needs it it is out in the truck toolbox.
It works, but not for pallet nails. Those nails are welded in the wood.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

The reason they call it the American
Dream is because you have to be asleep
to believe it. --George



JJ

in reply to Gerald Ross on 23/05/2007 7:16 AM

23/05/2007 6:39 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 7:16am [email protected] (Gerald=A0Ross) sayeth:
<snip> but not for pallet nails. Those nails are welded in the wood.

The person that invents somethhing that will successfuly pull pallet
nails, totally and without breaking them, will make a fortune.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to Gerald Ross on 23/05/2007 7:16 AM

24/05/2007 2:57 AM

-------------
In article <[email protected]>,
------------------------------------------
J T <[email protected]> wrote:

-------
>Wed, May 23, 2007, 7:16am [email protected] (Gerald Ross) sayeth:
><snip> but not for pallet nails. Those nails are welded in the wood.
>
> The person that invents somethhing that will successfuly pull pallet
>nails, totally and without breaking them, will make a fortune.
>
>
>
>JOAT
>What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
>humiliations?
>- Peter Egan
>

Geez, I like to think I'm frugal myself, but for crying out loud, break
down and buy yourself a box of _new_ nails.


--
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation
with the average voter. (Winston Churchill)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

lL

[email protected] (Larry W)

in reply to [email protected] (J T) on 22/05/2007 10:25 PM

23/05/2007 7:39 PM



------------------------
In article <[email protected]>,
J T <[email protected]> wrote:
--------------------------------

>http://www.nailextractor.com/
>
> I just saw and ad, never heard of one before. I've been looking
>for something that'll do what they claim this will do. But at $25 US a
>pop, it's a bit pricey for me to jus buy one for experimenting with.
>So, if anyone here has used one of these I'd like to hear their thoughts
>on it. Even then, if most people claim it works may just wind up
>welding an arc on one side of a vise-grip jaw, that would probably work
>close enough for what I want, and cost me less then $10, max.
>
>
>
>JOAT
>What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
>humiliations?
>- Peter Egan
>

It looks like a nice design, if the materail quality is adequate. However,
for about $10-12 you can get a large pair (16 or 18 inch?) of end nippers
from HFT. I have one and it rarely fails to pull or break a nail. In fact,
the 10" end nipper, about $6, that I keep in my tote bag rarely fails,
either.
--
There are no stupid questions, but there are lots of stupid answers.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

JJ

in reply to [email protected] (Larry W) on 23/05/2007 7:39 PM

23/05/2007 7:13 PM

Wed, May 23, 2007, 7:39pm (EDT+4) [email protected]
(Larry=A0W) doth sayeth:
It looks like a nice design, if the materail quality is adequate.
However, for about $10-12 you can get a large pair (16 or 18 inch?) of
end nippers from HFT. I have one and it rarely fails to pull or break a
nail. In fact, the 10" end nipper, about $6, that I keep in my tote bag
rarely fails, either.

I don't need to buy anything to break nails, I can manage that part
on my own. Too hard on my hands anymore, usng something like nippers.



JOAT
What is life without challenge and a constant stream of new
humiliations?
- Peter Egan


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