I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
seems like an afterthought.
Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
That is my page and that solution works pretty well. I have moved my web
site to the address below and the other one will soon peacefully expire in
it's sleep.
--
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com/woodshop
"Wood Butcher" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:TFjfc.37949$xn4.95748@attbi_s51...
> See http://www.bill.pounds.net/woodshop/bandsawdc.html
> I haven't tried his solution yet, but it's on the top of my list
> of what will probably work best.
>
> Art
>
> "PSobon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
> > I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
> > enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> > via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> > sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
> > seems like an afterthought.
> >
> > Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> > efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
> >
> > Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
> > a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
> >
> > I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
> > attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
> > where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
> > Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
> > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
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>
> "PSobon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
> > I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
> > enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> > via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> > sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
> > seems like an afterthought.
> >
> > Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> > efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
> >
> > Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
> > a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
> >
> > I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
> > attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
> > where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
> > Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
> > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
I saw this in a woodworking mag and it works well for me. I drilled series
of holes in the lower blade cover door, right near the bottom and bolted a
standard dust shroud (like from a jointer) over them. Hook a 4" hose from
my dust collector and it does a pretty good job. Just sealed off the small
port with duct tape.
Montyhp
>
>
I bought a dust collector adapter from Iturra. It is from Delta and it
works well. I also attached the brush that sweeps the lower wheel. Between
the two, I don't get the buildup on the wheels like I used to. I think the
adapter is around $35 and the brush about $6. Compared to the buildup and
sawdust everywhere that I was experiencing, it was well worth the money.
The adapter doesn't work out of the box with Carter Guides, but with tin
snips and a little cutting, the fix is easy.
Call 1-888-722-7078 for information and a catalogue. They are supposed to
get a web site up soon.
Not connected, just a happy customer.
Preston
"PSobon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
> I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
> enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
> seems like an afterthought.
>
> Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
>
> Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
> a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
>
> I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
> attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
> where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
> Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Absolutely! Works _very_ well indeed, and gets out of the way even on angle
cuts if the old vacuum door is down or out. I find a standard shop-vac with
the higher pressure to be a bit more effective, however.
Now let me tell you how a "zero clearance" insert makes all attempts to
collect dust after the cut futile....
<Layne> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I think the key is to have enough air flow as close to the lower blade
> guide as possible. Steve Knight made a simple yet effective solution,
> without having to surgically alter the BS. He glued a rare earth
> magnet to a block of wood and then attached the block of wood to the
> end of his 4" DC hose. He attaches the hose under the table as close
> to the lower blade guide as possible. Simple. Effective. Easy.
> Removable.
>
> Layne
>
> On 14 Apr 2004 11:26:38 -0700, [email protected] (PSobon) wrote:
>
> >I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
> >I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
> >enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> >via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> >sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
> >seems like an afterthought.
> >
> >Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> >efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
> >
I hear you. But you'd be surprised how "zero clearance" takes on the aura
of "organic" in this forum. People brag about zero-clearance inserts on
their tablesaw, and next complaint is the dust isn't collecting. Oh well.
Sometimes it makes you wonder if the machines' designers might have known
something after all. Love a zero insert on my scrollsaw, and it takes the
same as my band.
Stock metal on my Delta, was cast white metal (zinc), and cut like butter,
as I can attest.
<Layne> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Regarding the zero clearance insert: just cut a bigger kerf. My
> understanding is that "zero clearance" isn't really necessary for a
> BS. The whole advantage of the plastic insert is so you don't ruin
> your blades. I learned how dull the saw can get after it chewed on the
> stock metal insert....
Drill a 2" hole in the lower door and connect your hose with an adapter.
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Radial Arm Saw Forum: http://forums.delphiforums.com/woodbutcher/start
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"PSobon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
> I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
> enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
> seems like an afterthought.
>
> Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
>
> Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
> a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
>
> I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
> attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
> where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
> Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
PSobon wrote:
>I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
>attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
>where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
>Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
Ah yes, the droopy dick modification.
http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=54
Personally I think the saw shown in the picture looks a wee
bit embarrassed.
UA100
See http://www.bill.pounds.net/woodshop/bandsawdc.html
I haven't tried his solution yet, but it's on the top of my list
of what will probably work best.
Art
"PSobon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
> I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
> enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
> seems like an afterthought.
>
> Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
>
> Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
> a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
>
> I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
> attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
> where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
> Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
There is a MUCH better DC adapter that Delta offers to
fit the 14" bandsaw. It's also MUCH larger but a great
deal more effective. I don't have the part number but
it should not be hard to get from a Delta dealer.
PSobon wrote:
> I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
> I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
> enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
> seems like an afterthought.
>
> Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
>
> Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
> a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
>
"PSobon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
> via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
> sprays out of it.
I hear ya'! Although I have the Jet 14" closed base...
>
> Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
> efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
It made a big difference for me! I stopped screwing with the 4" DC and now
hook up the 2 1/2" shop vac anytime I fire up the baddddsaw. Dust still
shows up, but its a *fraction* of what it used to be.
Just resawed a bunch of Jatoba - 6" high, 30" long. The ShopVac did a great
job.
Try the ShopVac route first - that's what my nickel says.
I think the key is to have enough air flow as close to the lower blade
guide as possible. Steve Knight made a simple yet effective solution,
without having to surgically alter the BS. He glued a rare earth
magnet to a block of wood and then attached the block of wood to the
end of his 4" DC hose. He attaches the hose under the table as close
to the lower blade guide as possible. Simple. Effective. Easy.
Removable.
Layne
On 14 Apr 2004 11:26:38 -0700, [email protected] (PSobon) wrote:
>I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
>I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
>enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
>via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
>sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
>seems like an afterthought.
>
>Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
>efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
>
>Also I see that Delta makes a dedicated dust fitting for the 14" with
>a 5" spout that goes for about $35. Has anyone tried this fitting?
>
>I have also heard of people cutting a port in the lower door and
>attaching a separate hose. I thought about doing this but am not sure
>where the optimal placement of the port would be. Bottom of the door?
>Where the blade first contacts the wheel?
>Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Regarding the zero clearance insert: just cut a bigger kerf. My
understanding is that "zero clearance" isn't really necessary for a
BS. The whole advantage of the plastic insert is so you don't ruin
your blades. I learned how dull the saw can get after it chewed on the
stock metal insert....
Layne
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:56:56 -0400, "George" <george@least> wrote:
>Absolutely! Works _very_ well indeed, and gets out of the way even on angle
>cuts if the old vacuum door is down or out. I find a standard shop-vac with
>the higher pressure to be a bit more effective, however.
>
>Now let me tell you how a "zero clearance" insert makes all attempts to
>collect dust after the cut futile....
>
><Layne> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> I think the key is to have enough air flow as close to the lower blade
>> guide as possible. Steve Knight made a simple yet effective solution,
>> without having to surgically alter the BS. He glued a rare earth
>> magnet to a block of wood and then attached the block of wood to the
>> end of his 4" DC hose. He attaches the hose under the table as close
>> to the lower blade guide as possible. Simple. Effective. Easy.
>> Removable.
>>
>> Layne
>>
>> On 14 Apr 2004 11:26:38 -0700, [email protected] (PSobon) wrote:
>>
>> >I've been trying to eliminate as much dust as possible from my shop.
>> >I've been able to tame just about everything except for my bandsaw, an
>> >enclosed base 14" Delta. I tried connecting it to a 4" DC (650 CFM)
>> >via various fitings but that seems to do very little. The dust still
>> >sprays out of it. The ridiculously small port that Delta provides
>> >seems like an afterthought.
>> >
>> >Would a shop vac make a difference? Is there a minimum size for
>> >efficient collecting? I don't have one but probably should.
>> >
>
"Unisaw A100" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> PSobon wrote:
>
> Ah yes, the droopy dick modification.
>
> http://www.owwm.com/PhotoIndex/detail.asp?id=54
>
Jew or Gentile? Can't tell from the photo whether we've Bris Milah'd or
not...