A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various siz=
es for a few bucks. The box was branded =E2=80=9CSkil.=E2=80=9D I almost =
exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some =
2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then=
second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical.=
Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
On 5/8/2019 1:25 PM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 5/7/2019 3:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> Gramps' shop wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in
>>> various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded âSkil.â I almost
>>> exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill
>>> some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one
>>> broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes
>>> was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the
>>> surface.
>>
>> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
>> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
>> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
>>
>> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
>> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>>
>
> My experience is that you seldom get what you pay for. Mostly I'm
> surprised if I get half of my money's worth.
So it might be a wash if you are paid double what you are worth. ;~)
Gramps' shop wrote:
> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded ´Skil.¡ I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
one just kinda pushes its way through it.
Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
Puckdropper
On 5/9/2019 11:17 AM, Markem wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2019 10:20:01 -0400, John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/8/2019 8:52 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>>> On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:25:10 -0400, John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/7/2019 3:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>>>> Gramps' shop wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded âSkil.â I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>>>>>
>>>>> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
>>>>> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
>>>>> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
>>>>> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>>>>>
>>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My experience is that you seldom get what you pay for. Mostly I'm surprised
>>>> if I get half of my money's worth.
>>> That's typical of a scot.
>>>
>>
>> Make that Scot-Swede-German-Irish-French if you please...
>
> So basically an euro mutt?
>
Yep...
On 5/7/2019 3:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Gramps' shop wrote:
>
>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded âSkil.â I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>
> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
>
> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>
> Puckdropper
>
My experience is that you seldom get what you pay for. Mostly I'm surprised
if I get half of my money's worth.
On 5/8/2019 8:52 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:25:10 -0400, John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/2019 3:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>> Gramps' shop wrote:
>>>
>>>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded âSkil.â I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>>>
>>> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
>>> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
>>> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
>>>
>>> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
>>> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>>>
>>> Puckdropper
>>>
>>
>> My experience is that you seldom get what you pay for. Mostly I'm surprised
>> if I get half of my money's worth.
> That's typical of a scot.
>
Make that Scot-Swede-German-Irish-French if you please...
On Tue, 7 May 2019 10:03:44 -0700 (PDT), "Gramps' shop"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits
> in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded Skil.
>I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits
>but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits.
>First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location
> of the holes was not critical.
>Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>
I can see a problem with 7/64 going 2 inches deep into some
tough grainy hardwood, like elm. I can imagine having to drill
slow & careful and clearing the drill flutes a few times
for each hole ..
.. maybe I'm accustomed to cheapo bits ? :-)
or have too much time on my hands ..
John T.
On Thu, 9 May 2019 10:20:01 -0400, John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/8/2019 8:52 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
>> On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:25:10 -0400, John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/7/2019 3:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>>>> Gramps' shop wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded Skil. I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>>>>
>>>> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
>>>> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
>>>> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
>>>>
>>>> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
>>>> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>>>>
>>>> Puckdropper
>>>>
>>>
>>> My experience is that you seldom get what you pay for. Mostly I'm surprised
>>> if I get half of my money's worth.
>> That's typical of a scot.
>>
>
>Make that Scot-Swede-German-Irish-French if you please...
So basically an euro mutt?
On 5/7/2019 12:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Gramps' shop wrote:
>
>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in
various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded ´Skil.¡ I almost
exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill
some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one
broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was
not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>
> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
>
> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>
> Puckdropper
>
Heck. Learning to sharpen bits free hand (1/8 is about the smallest I
am comfortable with) properly will save you a ton of headaches even if
you don't have a drill doctor or you are using bits to large for a drill
doctor.
I wish I had learned it when I was younger and I still had Superman
vision, but having learned it a little older I just use a magnifier lamp
over my bench grinder. Under 1/8 inch is iffy, but I have done it a
couple times on a finer grit wheel in a pinch down to 1/16.
On 5/7/2019 6:42 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> Heck. Learning to sharpen bits free hand (1/8 is about the smallest I
> am comfortable with) properly will save you a ton of headaches even if
> you don't have a drill doctor or you are using bits to large for a drill
> doctor.
Yes. I always used a jig that used the side of the grinder wheel. That
worked well but I always wanted to do it free hand. Watched a bunch of
youtube videos on just that, and saw multiple techniques. One, the
simplest, caught my eye. Took about 1/2 hour practice to get it right,
and wow, what a treat. Super fast, pretty easy, once I get rolling.
> I wish I had learned it when I was younger and I still had Superman
> vision, but having learned it a little older I just use a magnifier lamp
> over my bench grinder. Under 1/8 inch is iffy, but I have done it a
> couple times on a finer grit wheel in a pinch down to 1/16.
Ditto. I've been meaning to get a magnifier lamp, that would be the
ticket, for lots of stuff. Never quite decided which one to get.
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
On Wed, 8 May 2019 14:25:10 -0400, John McGaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 5/7/2019 3:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
>> Gramps' shop wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded Skil. I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>>
>> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
>> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
>> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
>>
>> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
>> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>>
>> Puckdropper
>>
>
>My experience is that you seldom get what you pay for. Mostly I'm surprised
>if I get half of my money's worth.
That's typical of a scot.
On 5/7/2019 2:13 PM, Puckdropper wrote:
> Gramps' shop wrote:
>
>> A couple of years ago I bought a box of about 100 drill bits in various sizes for a few bucks. The box was branded ´Skil.¡ I almost exclusively use my Dewalt brand brad point bits but I needed to drill some 2-inch deep 7/64 holes so I grabbed my bargain bits. First one broke, then second one broke. Fortunately the location of the holes was not critical. Also fortunate that the break was beneath the surface.
>
> You'll probably find a good many of those bits are sharpened poorly as
> well. A bit that's sharp will eat its way through wood quickly, a dull
> one just kinda pushes its way through it.
FWIW it depends on the angle of the grind on the twist drill bits. A
very sharp bit with a low bevel will feed slowly.
>
> Learning to sharpen or buying a drill doctor will help in both reducing
> breakage and poorly sharpened bits.
>
> Puckdropper
>