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Robatoy

15/02/2008 3:30 PM

OT: Wicked fun.

This looks like a blast. It's a bit of a load (23 MB)

http://video1.hobbico.com/racing/2008-crc-race-deluxe.mpg


This topic has 24 replies

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 2:21 PM


"Robatoy" wrote:

>Here you go... a perfect motor for a router. 4.7 HP!!, 13 cc gas...
looks nice too. Hell, I'd love it in a glass case for my office.

http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1320.html


Absolutely amazing.

OS introduced the OS 29 to the model airplane market back in the early 50's,
primarily for U-Control applications.

Never had one myself, but it was a screaming demon and gave my Fox 35 a run
for the money.

Back in those days, the biggest engine on the market was an Olson & Rice 60,
which predated glow plug technology.

I converted one to an air compressor to spray dope rather than use a brush.

My how times have changed.

Lew


RC

Robatoy

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

18/02/2008 10:18 AM

On Feb 18, 1:02=A0am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 17, 9:13 pm, "Highland Pairos" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Try checking out the R/C jets. =A0Now those are nuts.
>
> You mean like this?
>
> =A0http://www.vimeo.com/38597
>
> Sadly, this model was lost a while later, and it actually caused a
> fire that burned down a house.
>
> I read the specs on this thing. =A0The fuselage, wings, airframe etc.,
> were a one time deal, and each one of those engines are REAL jet
> turbine engines. =A0You can get a sense of the size of it when the guys
> are out there spooling up the turbines.
>
> Magnificent.
>
> Robert

Just plain WOW.

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 2:14 PM

On Feb 16, 3:25 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dave in Houston wrote:
> > "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:4b658d42-a40b-45df-af0b-
>
> > Here you go... a perfect motor for a router. 4.7 HP!!, 13 cc gas...
> > looks nice too. Hell, I'd love it in a glass case for my office.
>
> >http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1320.html
>
> And here is is runninghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqenD5FZf0A
>
> And one for salehttp://cgi.ebay.com/NEW!-O.S.-FF-320-4-Cylinder-RC-4-Stroke-FREE-SHIP...
>
> 1300 bucks isn't bad for what it is, I would have expected more.
>
> > The ultimate hobby car?
> >http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=1009
>
> Geez, this guy is being wasted as a telecom engineer. If he can do
> _that_ all by his lonesome he should be able to pretty much write his
> own ticket in the mechanical engineering world.
>
> --

Now that is something. I've seen similar, but not quite that detailed
and working. The amount of skill and work is astonishing.

nn

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 9:49 AM

On Feb 16, 7:24 am, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I used to race competitively in the early and mid-90's, sometimes
> traveling 3-400 miles to regional races with a local pal. In the
> summer, we raced electric and alcohol powered dirt cars, in the winter
> we raced electric carpet road racers.

I could see that level of determination in the eyes of the racers.
They were really dedicated. And forget kids... there were no kids
except on the track to right a tipped car or as spectators. These
were all late 20s to about mid 60s. They were so damn serious, too.
The guy that owns the Hobbytown frachise told me they were out there
every weekend, no matter rain, shine, heat, etc. They were ALWAYS out
there.

> Today, the big race car bodies use a large, robust transponder, while
> the cycling and aerobic sport bodies use an ultra light transponder.
> With networking, and multiple loops, they have leg times, splits,
> rough acceleration, etc... all easily posted real-time to the TV
> stations and web.

I am amazed by all of this and the level of dedication by its
participants. It is something I knew existed, but never to the level
of sophistication it now has.

Learn something new every day!

Robert

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 9:37 AM

On Feb 16, 8:24=A0am, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:26:42 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > =A0These guys are so
> >competitive that they have tiny antennas on their cars so they will
> >register in electronically when they pass the booth so they can find
> >exact lap times, winning times, and of course the winner.
>
> Funny story about those antennas, known as "transponders"...
>
> The AMB Autoscore system was invented for radio control racing:
> <http://www.amb-it.com/index.php?osCsid=3D9690014e73f3ba1a67919295f90a59a1=
>
>
> I used to race competitively in the early and mid-90's, sometimes
> traveling 3-400 miles to regional races with a local pal. =A0In the
> summer, we raced electric and alcohol powered dirt cars, in the winter
> we raced electric carpet road racers. =A0
>
> Every good track had a beat-to-crap 286 PC running Autoscore over DOS,
> with a dot matrix printer to post results. =A0 The system was nothing
> more than wire loops under or over the track, with tiny, rechargeable,
> but almost bulletproof, devices communicating back to a simple but
> reliable DOS application. =A0Visually, it looked like old ASCII BBS
> software. =A0I can remember a track owner calling for support and
> actually getting _the guy_ who owned and ran the company.
>
> In the late 90's big time race organizers like NASCAR, SCCA, The
> Olympics, as well as the sanctioning bodies for the Tour de France and
> Giro de Italia, realized that silly little r/c cars had more
> sophisticated timing systems than they did. =A0 =A0
>
> Today, the big race car bodies use a large, robust transponder, while
> the cycling and aerobic sport bodies use an ultra light transponder.
> With networking, and multiple loops, they have leg times, splits,
> rough acceleration, etc... =A0all easily posted real-time to the TV
> stations and web. =A0
>
> After looking at the "About AMB" link, I'll bet you don't get to talk
> to the inventor anymore. =A0<G>

Here you go... a perfect motor for a router. 4.7 HP!!, 13 cc gas...
looks nice too. Hell, I'd love it in a glass case for my office.

http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1320.html

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 6:05 PM

On Feb 16, 6:02=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 16, 12:21 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This guy is just nuts... got to love it...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY-JuFmgx154&feature=3Drelated
>
> UN DAMN BELIEVABLE.
>
> Wow... how long does one have to practice to do that?
>
> Jeez... =A0Can you imagine what the tiniest slip would do to your
> investment?
>
> Robert

Pretty cool shit, huh?

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 10:21 AM

On Feb 16, 12:49=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 16, 7:24 am, "Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"
>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I used to race competitively in the early and mid-90's, sometimes
> > traveling 3-400 miles to regional races with a local pal. =A0In the
> > summer, we raced electric and alcohol powered dirt cars, in the winter
> > we raced electric carpet road racers.
>
> I could see that level of determination in the eyes of the racers.
> They were really dedicated. =A0And forget kids... there were no kids
> except on the track to right a tipped car or as spectators. =A0These
> were all late 20s to about mid 60s. =A0They were so damn serious, too.
> The guy that owns the Hobbytown frachise told me they were out there
> every weekend, no matter rain, shine, heat, etc. =A0They were ALWAYS out
> there.
>
> > Today, the big race car bodies use a large, robust transponder, while
> > the cycling and aerobic sport bodies use an ultra light transponder.
> > With networking, and multiple loops, they have leg times, splits,
> > rough acceleration, etc... =A0all easily posted real-time to the TV
> > stations and web.
>
> I am amazed by all of this and the level of dedication by its
> participants. =A0It is something I knew existed, but never to the level
> of sophistication it now has.
>
> Learn something new every day!
>
> Robert

Then there are the helicopter guys. Flying those remotely without the
feel of your butt in the seat is hard. And I mean hard. One guy
likened it to put a marble on an upside down metal mixing bowl and
KEEPING it there.

This guy is just nuts... got to love it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY-JuFmgx154&feature=3Drelated

nn

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

17/02/2008 10:02 PM

On Feb 17, 9:13 pm, "Highland Pairos" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Try checking out the R/C jets. Now those are nuts.


You mean like this?

http://www.vimeo.com/38597

Sadly, this model was lost a while later, and it actually caused a
fire that burned down a house.

I read the specs on this thing. The fuselage, wings, airframe etc.,
were a one time deal, and each one of those engines are REAL jet
turbine engines. You can get a sense of the size of it when the guys
are out there spooling up the turbines.

Magnificent.

Robert

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 5:12 PM

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:21:29 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:


>
>Then there are the helicopter guys.

Tell me about it. Model Airplane News is based here in CT. I flew
r/c planes (and learned full scale) with and from Sikorsky engineers.
We've also got Pratt & Whitney local.

One of the local r/c heli pilots has a few videos out.

nn

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

17/02/2008 10:04 PM

On Feb 16, 8:14 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is all about power:weight ratio. Kinda like Angela and I.

Man alive. I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole!!

I am not sure who we were worried about slipping, or what would happen
when there was a slip.

Doesn't mean I didn't snicker...

Robert

nn

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

15/02/2008 11:26 PM

On Feb 15, 9:54 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Those are gas engines as well.

Kinda timely you would put that up. Just last weekend was the first
time I had ever seen those gas powered jobs. I went to a place
called Hobbytown USA, where I buy bulk epoxy. (It's good stuff and as
much as 1/2 the price of the other joints around here).

Anyway, they didn't have those cool jumps, but they have a permanent
track set out on a sloped end of the parking lot, and even have a
metal welded racing stand for the operators to stand in while racing.
It was fascinating as they were all running some of the old style
bodies like the Chaparrals, etc. They first ran electric, and they
were so fast you could hear them whiz by. These guys are so
competitive that they have tiny antennas on their cars so they will
register in electronically when they pass the booth so they can find
exact lap times, winning times, and of course the winner.

The cool deal was the gas car race though. Those cars were about 16"
in length, and literally screamed when they were opened up. On the
straightaways they even blew out a little blue smoke when the guys
stood on it.

Those guys had pit crews, extra everything, cradle for their cars, and
way too much fun. I had other things to do, but the gas race was
about 15 minutes long, and I stood there and watched the whole thing.
It smelled like several chainsaws were being tuned up out there as the
gas smell hung in the air. It was cool.

Like I said, none of those big jumps on your video, though. Just some
hard, flat racing. Man were those guys serious.

Robert


Dd

DS

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

17/02/2008 5:32 PM

Robatoy wrote:

> Then there are the helicopter guys. Flying those remotely without the
> feel of your butt in the seat is hard. And I mean hard. One guy
> likened it to put a marble on an upside down metal mixing bowl and
> KEEPING it there.
>
> This guy is just nuts... got to love it...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-JuFmgx154&feature=related

Awesome skill...
Then this video was on the page. Turbine engines for RC!
gotta have one!
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wL-yoJz6qo&feature=related>

Their web site :

<http://wrenturbines.co.uk/product.php?pid=5>
The heli Turbine is only £2700

HP

"Highland Pairos"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

18/02/2008 3:13 AM

Try checking out the R/C jets. Now those are nuts.

SteveP.
www.stellarbuilders.net


"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:49:32 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>I am amazed by all of this and the level of dedication by its
>>participants. It is something I knew existed, but never to the level
>>of sophistication it now has.
>
> To keep it woodworking related, my favorite track was right down the
> street from CT Wood Group. <G>

Mt

"Max"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 1:37 AM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This looks like a blast. It's a bit of a load (23 MB)
>
> http://video1.hobbico.com/racing/2008-crc-race-deluxe.mpg

Many years ago I built "slot car" tracks. Shipped them all over the
country. It was quite a fad for a few years.
Lots of fun.
But that looks "funner". <G>

Max

hR

[email protected] (Ross Hebeisen)

in reply to "Max" on 16/02/2008 1:37 AM

15/02/2008 7:48 PM

I remember the slot cars, people would go to the place, bring their own
car and rent a slot to compete with others. ross

nn

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 3:02 PM

On Feb 16, 12:21 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

> This guy is just nuts... got to love it...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-JuFmgx154&feature=related

UN DAMN BELIEVABLE.

Wow... how long does one have to practice to do that?

Jeez... Can you imagine what the tiniest slip would do to your
investment?

Robert

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 6:14 PM

On Feb 16, 6:02=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Feb 16, 12:21 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This guy is just nuts... got to love it...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY-JuFmgx154&feature=3Drelated
>
> UN DAMN BELIEVABLE.
>
> Wow... how long does one have to practice to do that?
>
> Jeez... =A0Can you imagine what the tiniest slip would do to your
> investment?
>
> Robert

It is all about power:weight ratio. Kinda like Angela and I.

CS

Charlie Self

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 2:01 PM

On Feb 15, 6:30 pm, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:
> This looks like a blast. It's a bit of a load (23 MB)
>
> http://video1.hobbico.com/racing/2008-crc-race-deluxe.mpg

Truly neat.

RC

Robatoy

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

15/02/2008 7:54 PM

On Feb 15, 8:37=A0pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > This looks like a blast. It's a bit of a load (23 MB)
>
> >http://video1.hobbico.com/racing/2008-crc-race-deluxe.mpg
>
> Many years ago I built "slot car" tracks. =A0Shipped them all over the
> country. It was quite a fad for a few years.
> Lots of fun.
> But that looks "funner". =A0<G>
>
> Max

Those are gas engines as well.

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 10:00 PM

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:37:26 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Here you go... a perfect motor for a router. 4.7 HP!!, 13 cc gas...
>looks nice too. Hell, I'd love it in a glass case for my office.
>
>http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1320.html


I've seen those fly!

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 3:25 PM

Dave in Houston wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4b658d42-a40b-45df-af0b-
>
> Here you go... a perfect motor for a router. 4.7 HP!!, 13 cc gas...
> looks nice too. Hell, I'd love it in a glass case for my office.
>
> http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1320.html

And here is is running http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqenD5FZf0A

And one for sale
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW!-O.S.-FF-320-4-Cylinder-RC-4-Stroke-FREE-SHIPPING!_W0QQitemZ270206218093QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL0801241032a40653

1300 bucks isn't bad for what it is, I would have expected more.

> The ultimate hobby car?
> http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=1009

Geez, this guy is being wasted as a telecom engineer. If he can do
_that_ all by his lonesome he should be able to pretty much write his
own ticket in the mechanical engineering world.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

Di

"Dave in Houston"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 12:13 PM


"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4b658d42-a40b-45df-af0b-

Here you go... a perfect motor for a router. 4.7 HP!!, 13 cc gas...
looks nice too. Hell, I'd love it in a glass case for my office.

http://www.osengines.com/engines/osmg1320.html


The ultimate hobby car?
http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=1009


--
Dave in Houston

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 8:24 AM

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:26:42 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> These guys are so
>competitive that they have tiny antennas on their cars so they will
>register in electronically when they pass the booth so they can find
>exact lap times, winning times, and of course the winner.

Funny story about those antennas, known as "transponders"...

The AMB Autoscore system was invented for radio control racing:
<http://www.amb-it.com/index.php?osCsid=9690014e73f3ba1a67919295f90a59a1>

I used to race competitively in the early and mid-90's, sometimes
traveling 3-400 miles to regional races with a local pal. In the
summer, we raced electric and alcohol powered dirt cars, in the winter
we raced electric carpet road racers.

Every good track had a beat-to-crap 286 PC running Autoscore over DOS,
with a dot matrix printer to post results. The system was nothing
more than wire loops under or over the track, with tiny, rechargeable,
but almost bulletproof, devices communicating back to a simple but
reliable DOS application. Visually, it looked like old ASCII BBS
software. I can remember a track owner calling for support and
actually getting _the guy_ who owned and ran the company.

In the late 90's big time race organizers like NASCAR, SCCA, The
Olympics, as well as the sanctioning bodies for the Tour de France and
Giro de Italia, realized that silly little r/c cars had more
sophisticated timing systems than they did.

Today, the big race car bodies use a large, robust transponder, while
the cycling and aerobic sport bodies use an ultra light transponder.
With networking, and multiple loops, they have leg times, splits,
rough acceleration, etc... all easily posted real-time to the TV
stations and web.

After looking at the "About AMB" link, I'll bet you don't get to talk
to the inventor anymore. <G>

BB

"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)"

in reply to Robatoy on 15/02/2008 3:30 PM

16/02/2008 10:02 PM

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:49:32 -0800 (PST), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>I am amazed by all of this and the level of dedication by its
>participants. It is something I knew existed, but never to the level
>of sophistication it now has.

To keep it woodworking related, my favorite track was right down the
street from CT Wood Group. <G>


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