Hi,
I've been lurking for about a month now, never seen such an active
newsgroup with so much good info in it.
I bought an old PM-66 TS some time ago and it came with bent fence
rails. (Round rails about 1 3/8 dia.) It seems like it would be a
fairly decent fence with some straight rails. I'm undecided if I
should try to find better rails or just go with a new fence. I would
think there would be a bunch of these old style rails laying around
and a pair could be picked up fairly reasonably. Is anyone still
using the original fence on these saws? Any comments about it?
If you have updated, how does the new compare to the old.
Thank You,
John
On 6 Nov 2003 13:17:10 -0800, [email protected] (WebsterSteve)
wrotg:
>http://musial.ws/woodworking_and_old_iron.htm
Nice job on the saw restore, looks like new. Now that the new fence
is ordered I should clean mine up a bit, it's a bit crusty but runs
great.
I see you have the same "paneling" as I do in the shop. Did you seal
it with something? I put mine up a couple of years ago and haven't
done anything else to it.
Thanks
John
John wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been lurking for about a month now, never seen such an active
> newsgroup with so much good info in it.
>
> I bought an old PM-66 TS some time ago and it came with bent fence
> rails. (Round rails about 1 3/8 dia.) It seems like it would be a
> fairly decent fence with some straight rails. I'm undecided if I
> should try to find better rails or just go with a new fence. I would
> think there would be a bunch of these old style rails laying around
> and a pair could be picked up fairly reasonably. Is anyone still
> using the original fence on these saws? Any comments about it?
> If you have updated, how does the new compare to the old.
>
> Thank You,
> John
The PM66 at work still has the original fence. Great saw, POS
fence. A Biesemeyer would make it handle like a fine Swiss watch.
Dump your old fence and upgrade.
"> The PM66 at work still has the original fence. Great saw, POS
> fence. A Biesemeyer would make it handle like a fine Swiss watch.
> Dump your old fence and upgrade.
====================================
I second that opinion!
And while I do have a Biesmeyer Fence on my saw (and absolutely love it btw)
There are now plenty of after market fences available that would make your
saw a "true" dream to use...
Bob Griffiths
On 7 Nov 2003 12:39:00 -0800, [email protected] (WebsterSteve)
wrotg:
>
>Seal it? I haven't even gotten around to putting a ceiling up yet! I
>was going to paint everything white once I got the ceiling up but I'd
>rather spend time working *in* the shop than *on* the shop so I'm not
>sure when I'll get around to putting the ceiling in.
Well Steve, I'm almost ahead of you there. The sheetrock is on the
ceiling but not taped. Been that way for 2 years. You're right, it's
more fun working in the shop then on it.
Happy woodworking,
John
You should hang out here for "deals":
http://www.biesemeyer.com/specials/index.htm
I notice that they currently have a 30" commercial
for $199 that a discontinued color.....
John wrote:
> Thank's for the comments. I was leaning towards a new after
> market but I thought the PM might have had a good fence that
> would be worth resurrecting. It also would have saved me a
> few dollars that can always be spent on something else for
> the home shop. But this saw is definitely worth a new fence.
>
> John
John <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Thank's for the comments. I was leaning towards a new after
> market but I thought the PM might have had a good fence that
> would be worth resurrecting. It also would have saved me a
> few dollars that can always be spent on something else for
> the home shop. But this saw is definitely worth a new fence.
>
> John
I have a PM65 and put a Vega fence on it. Very happy with the results.
http://musial.ws/woodworking_and_old_iron.htm (scroll to the bottom)
John <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 6 Nov 2003 13:17:10 -0800, [email protected] (WebsterSteve)
> wrotg:
>
> >http://musial.ws/woodworking_and_old_iron.htm
>
> Nice job on the saw restore, looks like new. Now that the new fence
> is ordered I should clean mine up a bit, it's a bit crusty but runs
> great.
> I see you have the same "paneling" as I do in the shop. Did you seal
> it with something? I put mine up a couple of years ago and haven't
> done anything else to it.
>
> Thanks
> John
Seal it? I haven't even gotten around to putting a ceiling up yet! I
was going to paint everything white once I got the ceiling up but I'd
rather spend time working *in* the shop than *on* the shop so I'm not
sure when I'll get around to putting the ceiling in.
Thank's for the comments. I was leaning towards a new after
market but I thought the PM might have had a good fence that
would be worth resurrecting. It also would have saved me a
few dollars that can always be spent on something else for
the home shop. But this saw is definitely worth a new fence.
John
The Biesemeyer just floats across the table. I
> was so used to measuring about 4 times to set the old fence, now you
> just read it, lock it, and saw. It is just awesome. I was always
> impressed with the PM-66, but now this baby really rocks.
> Thank's again.
>
> John
=================
John
I do not know how long that Bies will holdup in your shop before it starts
giving your trouble... But I have had a Bies installed on my saw for well
over 10 years now and it is as great today as it was when I installed
it...MY GUESS is that your Great Grandson "may" be the woodworker who
finallly wears it out... you sure have nothing to worry about
One HINT...no need to apply much pressure to the locking cam...it locks
solid with very little pressure almost none....I actually use a small earth
maganet to keep the
cam lever upright because letting it fall LOCKED the fence ....
Bob Griffiths
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:41:17 -0600, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've been lurking for about a month now, never seen such an active
>newsgroup with so much good info in it.
>
>I bought an old PM-66 TS some time ago and it came with bent fence
>rails. (Round rails about 1 3/8 dia.) It seems like it would be a
>fairly decent fence with some straight rails. I'm undecided if I
>should try to find better rails or just go with a new fence. I would
>think there would be a bunch of these old style rails laying around
>and a pair could be picked up fairly reasonably. Is anyone still
>using the original fence on these saws? Any comments about it?
>If you have updated, how does the new compare to the old.
>
>Thank You,
>John
I have the Biesemeyer with angle iron and a long square tube on the
front of the PM66. It is always true. A bad fence makes a bad table
saw, even if it's a PM66.
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:38:05 GMT, "Bob G" <[email protected]>
wrotg:
>John
> I do not know how long that Bies will holdup in your shop before it starts
>giving your trouble... But I have had a Bies installed on my saw for well
>over 10 years now and it is as great today as it was when I installed
>it...MY GUESS is that your Great Grandson "may" be the woodworker who
>finallly wears it out... you sure have nothing to worry about
>
>One HINT...no need to apply much pressure to the locking cam...it locks
>solid with very little pressure almost none....I actually use a small earth
>maganet to keep the
>cam lever upright because letting it fall LOCKED the fence ....
>
>Bob Griffiths
>
Bob,
The way this fence is built it will outlast me thats for sure. This
one came with the magnet as standard equipment.
John
Always felt that the most important factor with a table saw is the
fence. Now you understand why.
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 13:04:43 -0600, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>After reading several replies from readers of the Wreck saying to junk
>the old fence, I figured maybe it was time for a new one. One poster
>mentioned the Biesemeyer closeout web site. Thank you very much!!
>If you are looking for Biesemeyer stuff this is the place to be
>looking. I ordered the 42" commercial fence and received it Friday
>and installed it. I've been using it for a couple of days now and
>could never go back to the old one. (Well it only took about a minute
>to figure that out.) The Biesemeyer just floats across the table. I
>was so used to measuring about 4 times to set the old fence, now you
>just read it, lock it, and saw. It is just awesome. I was always
>impressed with the PM-66, but now this baby really rocks.
> Thank's again.
>
>John
>
>
>P.S.
>Anyone need an original 66 rip fence?
>
>>John wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've been lurking for about a month now, never seen such an active
>>> newsgroup with so much good info in it.
>>>
>>> I bought an old PM-66 TS some time ago and it came with bent fence
>>> rails. (Round rails about 1 3/8 dia.) It seems like it would be a
>>> fairly decent fence with some straight rails. I'm undecided if I
>>> should try to find better rails or just go with a new fence. I would
>>> think there would be a bunch of these old style rails laying around
>>> and a pair could be picked up fairly reasonably. Is anyone still
>>> using the original fence on these saws? Any comments about it?
>>> If you have updated, how does the new compare to the old.
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>> John
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 20:48:55 GMT, Pat Barber
<[email protected]> wrotg:
>You should hang out here for "deals":
>
>http://www.biesemeyer.com/specials/index.htm
>
>I notice that they currently have a 30" commercial
>for $199 that a discontinued color.....
Thank's a million Pat, I just ordered it. Santa's coming early!
John
After reading several replies from readers of the Wreck saying to junk
the old fence, I figured maybe it was time for a new one. One poster
mentioned the Biesemeyer closeout web site. Thank you very much!!
If you are looking for Biesemeyer stuff this is the place to be
looking. I ordered the 42" commercial fence and received it Friday
and installed it. I've been using it for a couple of days now and
could never go back to the old one. (Well it only took about a minute
to figure that out.) The Biesemeyer just floats across the table. I
was so used to measuring about 4 times to set the old fence, now you
just read it, lock it, and saw. It is just awesome. I was always
impressed with the PM-66, but now this baby really rocks.
Thank's again.
John
P.S.
Anyone need an original 66 rip fence?
>John wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been lurking for about a month now, never seen such an active
>> newsgroup with so much good info in it.
>>
>> I bought an old PM-66 TS some time ago and it came with bent fence
>> rails. (Round rails about 1 3/8 dia.) It seems like it would be a
>> fairly decent fence with some straight rails. I'm undecided if I
>> should try to find better rails or just go with a new fence. I would
>> think there would be a bunch of these old style rails laying around
>> and a pair could be picked up fairly reasonably. Is anyone still
>> using the original fence on these saws? Any comments about it?
>> If you have updated, how does the new compare to the old.
>>
>> Thank You,
>> John
"Bob G" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
[snip]
> I do not know how long that Bies will holdup in your shop before it
starts
> giving your trouble... But I have had a Bies installed on my saw for well
> over 10 years now and it is as great today as it was when I installed
> it...MY GUESS is that your Great Grandson "may" be the woodworker who
> finallly wears it out... you sure have nothing to worry about
>
> One HINT...no need to apply much pressure to the locking cam...it locks
> solid with very little pressure almost none....I actually use a small
earth
> maganet to keep the
> cam lever upright because letting it fall LOCKED the fence ....
>
Sounds like your cam lever hold up mechanism is shot. May as well rip the
fence off the saw and send it to me for proper disposal ;-}
Montyhp
> Bob Griffiths
>
>